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Subject: Bug#667: 0.93-R5 Base system install problems
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Package: 0.93-5 Base disks

I sat down last night to start the process of migrating my system to
0.93-R5. Nearly 4 hours later, I finally finished installing the base
disks!

The system boots fine, and does all the right things when partitioning the
disks, formatting, mounting etc. However, while installing the base system
from the 3 base disks, it stops loading and effectively hangs at certain
points in the process. This necessitates a reboot to bring up my current
(0.93R2) system, run fsck on the bombed partition (couldn't find it on the
base disk set), and another reboot to bring the R5 installation system
back up.

Then round I go again (minus the partitioning and formatting steps) to
continue re-installing the base. Lots of messages about files that have
already been installed and then sometimes it would stop at a second (or
even third) point further down the track.

For the record, I tried with and without adding swap space, I tried
different partition sizes, I tried 'rm -rf'ing the disk from the R2 system
before repartitioning and mkfs'ing it. No luck. The system is a 386 DX
with 10Mb RAM, ESDI disk controller and 2 identical ESDI drives (R5 on
hda, R2 on hdb). It has been running exclusively Linux for over 2 years
now.

I believe that the system I finally managed to install (though it stopped
twice) is complete. If R5 proves to be incrementally upgradable then that
should be the last time that I have to mess with the base disks. So I
don't personally need it fixed. Given also that the hardware is "the day
before yesterday's technology" this problem may never bite anyone else.
But then, on the other hand, it might, so this bug report is 'for the
record'.

Cheers,
David.

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David C P Gray <davidg@iago.dialix.oz.au> said:

> Package: 0.93-5 Base disks
>
> I sat down last night to start the process of migrating my system to
> 0.93-R5. Nearly 4 hours later, I finally finished installing the base
> disks!

I've reinstalled it so many times now that I can probably do it in
under ten minutes.  The limiting factor is how fast the root and base
disks can be read.

That probably doesn't sound like a plus, but you'll find that your
second install is easy, and three and up are a breeze.

> The system boots fine, and does all the right things when partitioning the
> disks, formatting, mounting etc. However, while installing the base system
> from the 3 base disks, it stops loading and effectively hangs at certain
> points in the process. This necessitates a reboot to bring up my current
> (0.93R2) system, run fsck on the bombed partition (couldn't find it on the
> base disk set), and another reboot to bring the R5 installation system
> back up.

SOunds like the same sort of difficulties I've been having.  I've been
having the same sort of hangs during base-disk install too, though I haven't
mentioned it here.  It says "........." for a while, then shuts off the
drive, stops printing "..." and, after 30 seconds or so, I try ^C,
then ctrl-alt-del, then reset switch.  Next time through, it either
works OK or hands at a different point.

> Then round I go again (minus the partitioning and formatting steps) to
> continue re-installing the base. Lots of messages about files that have
> already been installed and then sometimes it would stop at a second (or
> even third) point further down the track.

Yep, sounds familiar.

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From: bruce@pixar.com (Bruce Perens)
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We had one other user who had trouble extracting the base disks, but he
seems to have flaky hardware. They of course work fine here. Any console
messages while this was going on?

You can extract the disk images manually if necessary. Use this procedure

	cd /root (or /, if you've gotten that far)
	gunzip<1basedisk.gz |gunzip | cpio --extract --verbose

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Oh not good. This is beginning to sound like a kernel problem if three people
are getting it. What really bothers me is that one person got through the
install by using the slackware bootdisk and our rootdisk. Thus, he switched
the kernel and things improved.

Hm. Are we building the kernel with the buggy GCC?

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> Oh not good. This is beginning to sound like a kernel problem if three people
> are getting it. What really bothers me is that one person got through the
> install by using the slackware bootdisk and our rootdisk. Thus, he switched
> the kernel and things improved.
>
> Hm. Are we building the kernel with the buggy GCC?

I don't know.  I couldn't even get the 0.93R5 kernel to load.  I wound
up having to boot with my own kernel, with the appropriate lilo
options, to do the install.  BTW, I have a short list of other problems
to report, but I haven't had time to submit them yet.

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Ian,

If you have added fdflush to the base system install scripts, you can
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Package: 0.93-5 Base disks

I sat down last night to start the process of migrating my system to
0.93-R5. Nearly 4 hours later, I finally finished installing the base
disks!

The system boots fine, and does all the right things when partitioning the
disks, formatting, mounting etc. However, while installing the base system
from the 3 base disks, it stops loading and effectively hangs at certain
points in the process. This necessitates a reboot to bring up my current
(0.93R2) system, run fsck on the bombed partition (couldn't find it on the
base disk set), and another reboot to bring the R5 installation system
back up.

Then round I go again (minus the partitioning and formatting steps) to
continue re-installing the base. Lots of messages about files that have
already been installed and then sometimes it would stop at a second (or
even third) point further down the track.

For the record, I tried with and without adding swap space, I tried
different partition sizes, I tried 'rm -rf'ing the disk from the R2 system
before repartitioning and mkfs'ing it. No luck. The system is a 386 DX
with 10Mb RAM, ESDI disk controller and 2 identical ESDI drives (R5 on
hda, R2 on hdb). It has been running exclusively Linux for over 2 years
now.

I believe that the system I finally managed to install (though it stopped
twice) is complete. If R5 proves to be incrementally upgradable then that
should be the last time that I have to mess with the base disks. So I
don't personally need it fixed. Given also that the hardware is "the day
before yesterday's technology" this problem may never bite anyone else.
But then, on the other hand, it might, so this bug report is 'for the
record'.

Cheers,
David.

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