GUS Daily Digest            Mon, 20 Dec 93  0:07         Volume 9: Issue  20  

Today's Topics:
				   DOOM v1.1 and Gravis Gamepad...
								Fed up
			   Getting IndyRacer Racer to work with GUS
					   GUS Daily Digest V9 #18
					 Line-in while playing DOOM?
				   Loud Pops from my Sound System.
							 Megaem & T7G
							 Microphones
							Music Contest
			   No sound with Xanth/MEGAEM combo (help)
				  Quest For Glory 4 clarification...
					   Quest For Glory IV (fwd)
							  SB rubbish
							   Speakers

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Sat, 18 Dec 93 15:05:58 CST
From: Erick_Bergquist@edtng.Kenosha.WI.US (Erick Bergquist)
Subject: DOOM v1.1 and Gravis Gamepad...

I know this isn't GUS related, but hey, it has to do with a Gravis product.
;)

I just upgraded to DOOM v1.1 and it works fine, but now it doesn't work
with my Gravis GamePad. I can move right, and go backwards only.

Does anyone else have this problem?

I looked in the DEFAULT.CFG and I see no settings for Joystick-movement
positions (only buttons). Everytime I start DOOM up it also asks me to
configure the joystick. (Push to upper-left, lower-right, etc...)

Thanks for any suggestions...

BTW, A friend of mine just sold their GUS for $200 (256k RAM) and went and
bought another one, and upgraded it to a MEG. I don't know who bought it,
but they wanted it that bad I guess.

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Date: Sun, 19 Dec 93 12:53:55 EST
From: Cliff Addy <raddy@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
Subject: Fed up

Well, I'm just about fed up.  I've been a GUS owner for about six months
and I must say that while I've been impressed by the technical merits of
the GUS, I'm just about ready to pitch it for a variety of minor issues
that have snowballed into a large mountain of frustration ....

1)  Gravis themselves:  I read in a recent digest about some poor fella
who had to wait three months to receive his 2.06a disks.  Well, buddy,
I've been waiting *six* months and have seen hide nor hair of mine.  And
neither has my friend, who bought hers 6 weeks earlier.  And yes, we sent
in the registration cards.

Add to that the complete ignoring of several help requests mailed to 
Gravis.  Or for that matter, product purchase requests.  Just a simple
"piss off, we're too busy" would have been nice, since I would have known
not to wait.  But nothing, nada, zilch ....

2) Compatibility problems:  It won't work with this, or that, or that ....

It's simple little stuff like have to initialize the Windows driver every
time Windows starts. Or that having software work seems to be dependent on
the particular hardware configuration, the type of BIOS used, and the phase
of the moon.  After several weeks of trying to upgrade the RAM, I finally
determined that the GUS only likes *CERTAIN BRANDS* of RAM.

I've had 12 years of working with PCs and *NEVER* had this much ongoing trouble 
with a piece of hardware.  If *I* have this much trouble, I really feel for the 
poor schmuck who finds a GUS under his Christmas tree.  Of course, if Gravis
would answer my email ....

3)  Product availability:  God help those without InterNet access.  They'd
never know about epas or the Digest.  *Is* there a CD-ROM or 16-bit recording
daughterboard available?  Where do I buy one?  How to upgrade?  Of course,
if Gravis would only answer my email ....

I think you see the common theme running through all this.  *WAKE UP,
GRAVIS!!!  YOUR CUSTOMER BASE IS GETTING PISSED OFF!!!*  You're hiding in
your little shell in Canada and expecting the few of us out here in positions
to talk to tell the world to beat a path to your door.  You *have* built 
the better mousetrap, but a *lot* of the mice don't fit.  Talk to me!  I'm
sick of being ignored.  As an instructor here at UNF, I've been recommending
the GUS, mainly because I thought the Internet support would outweigh the
compatibility problems.  However, given the lack of response from Gravis, 
I'm going to stop.  The SB make have poor sound, but all too often, the 
GUS has no sound at all.

As a side note, I was in the mall the other day at Babbage's.  A customer
asked about the GUS and was told that they had stopped carrying it.  Seems
they sold about a dozen of them and they were all returned because they
were incompatible.  And don't try blaming it on ignorant users.  Just who
do you think the vast majority of the market is?

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 Cliff Addy (raddy@unf6.cis.unf.edu)
 Department of Computer and Information Sciences, University of North Florida
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 A rock pile ceases to be a rock pile the moment a single man contemplates
 it, bearing within him the image of a cathedral -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery 

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Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 12:56:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Vincent Poy <hippo@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu>
Subject: Getting IndyRacer Racer to work with GUS

Does anyone out there know how to get the IndyRacer by Papyrus to work
with the GUS?  Any help would be appreciated!


Cheers,

Vince
hippo@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu
root@kingdom.com
System Administrator/Owner 
Kingdom Communications Inc./California Unix Public Access Systems Inc.
San Francisco, California USA
		  
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Date: Sun, 19 Dec 93 02:13:00 PST
From: n4zfd!frodo@rylos.n2idf.ampr.org ("James M. Blakely")
Subject: GUS Daily Digest V9 #18

Someone erroneously once said:


> Yes, it does.  The GUS is the first card to use the MultiMedia extensions
> that are new with Win3.1.  They are loaded only in Enhanced mode.  There
> is no way to fool the GUS driver into running in Standard mode.  I know,
> I've tried. :)

> Other cards work in Standard mode because their drivers pre-date the
> MultiMedia extensions.

The multimedia extensions have nothing to do with this point. The multimedia 
extensions, in fact, require only a '286 and standard mode.

The reason the GUS driver won't run under standard mode is that it wasn't 
written to run under standard mode. I imagine they probably used some '386 
specific instructions.

386 Enhanced mode is far superior to standard mode. Programs that "prefer" 
standard mode were generally written for Windows 3.0.

Incidentally, most PC manufacturers have started preloading all new machines 
with Windows for Workgroups 3.11 (which includes 32 bit file access, among 
other great features), and which *doesn't have a standard mode*.


> MegaEm does not work when Windows is loaded.  Read the docs, it turns off
> when it detects Windows starting up.  Likewise, UltraMID will not work
> inside of Windows.  There is NO WAY to get sound with these games inside
> of Windows with the GUS.

When you use the Windows versions of the Sierra games, and properly load the 
GUS with patches, it'll work fine. Sierra games are MPC compliant games, and 
support all Windows sound cards.

Jim Blakely, Microsoft Certified Professional
Blakely-Signature Associates
A Microsoft Solution Provider

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Date: Sun, 19 Dec 93 04:06:52 EST
From: phaedrus%triples@Triples.Math.McGill.CA (Phong Co)
Subject: Line-in while playing DOOM?

Hi all,

I apologize for clogging up the list with DOOM stuff, but it is
GUS-related.

I've got a portable CD player hooked up to the GUS line-in, and can use
the CD while in Windows, playing Wolf3D, etc.  It seems that games which
support the GUS directly, such as DOOM or Epic Pinball, does not mix the
line-in.  I've got -l on ultrinit, with no results.  I do want the
sound effects, so I can't just disable the sound options.  Am I
missing something?  I want King Crimson blasting while I'm
chainsawing imps!



-- 
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Phong T. Co             phaedrus@Math.McGill.CA         McGill University
Computer Coordinator                                    Montreal, CANADA
Department of Mathematics                               (514) 398-8448

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Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 12:43:49 -0500 (EST)
From: Brian Go <bgo@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Loud Pops from my Sound System.

I have once again hooked up my stereo to  my GUS, and once again the
sucker is now giving me these static pops every once in a while.  Has
anyone else experienced this?

Brian Go                        | One thing to remember
bgo@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca        | Is that I have feelings too
2nd year Chem Geek!             | I surely would have closed my eyes
Displaced Montrealer            | If I had known the real you. <INFOSOC>

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Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 12:24:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Mark Harrison <harrison@lclark.edu>
Subject: Re: Megaem & T7G

> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 07:37:49 -0800 (PST)
> From: mikebat@netcom.com (Mike Batchelor)
> Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V9 #17
> 
> $  Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 09:08:36 -0600 (CST)
> $  From: ibmpa!hartmann.austin.ibm.com!lance@ibminet.awdpa.ibm.com (Lance Hartmann)
> $  Subject: Seeking help/suggestions installing T7G (The Seventh Guest).
> $  
> $  I don't know how the rest of you do it, but it just doesn't seem
> $  possible for me to load EVERYTHING high:
> $  
> $    o QEMM

I had to use Stealth Mode.  Works fine.

> $  As such, I tried to use MegaEm.  I've used it quite successfully with
> $  XWing so I gave it a shot.  Unfortunately, I cannot even complete the
> $  install.  T7G's INSTALL immediately complains that it cannot find
> $  the "device" (yes -- I run MegaEm/Emuset BEFORE T7G's INSTALL).  I didn't
> 
> Read the MegaEm docs.  T7G is one of the games listed as incompatible, for
> reasons Jayeson has not yet discovered.

Is this true Jayeson?  I'm using the first or second T7G patch (the third 
locks my system up solid no matter WHAT I do.)  I ran T7G with both MT-32 
and SCC emulation to hear which was best.  Never had one problem.

Mark Harrison
harrison@sun.lclark.edu

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Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 12:51:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Vincent Poy <hippo@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu>
Subject: Microphones

	I am looking a Microphone to use with the GUS, what Microphones
are available that are Stereo? Thanks!


Cheers,

Vince
hippo@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu
root@kingdom.com
System Administrator/Owner 
Kingdom Communications Inc./California Unix Public Access Systems Inc.
San Francisco, California USA
		  
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Date: Sun, 19 Dec 93 22:11:52 EDT
From: r3cgm@dax.cc.uakron.edu (Christopher G Mann )
Subject: Music Contest

Assuming I got your address right, you are an online publication for

computer music oriented things.  Please consider posting the following

text in your publication with all due haste.

 

 

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					3 Z? Z? 3 3 3 3 3 3 ZDDDY @? ZY 3 ZD? 3

					3 33 33 3 3 3 3 3 3 @DDD?  3 3  3 3 @DY

					3 3@DY3 3 3 3 3 3 @DDD? 3  3 3  3 3 ZD?

					3 3   3 3 3 @DY 3 ZDDDY 3 ZY @? 3 @DY 3

					@DY   @DY @DDDDDY @DDDDDY @DDDY @DDDDDY

		   ZDDDDD? ZDDDDDD? ZDDD?  ZD? ZDDDDD? ZDDDDD? ZDDDDD? ZDDDDD?

		   3 ZD? 3 3 ZDD? 3 3   @? 3 3 @D? ZDY 3 ZDDDY 3 ZDDDY @D? ZDY

		   3 3 @DY 3 3  3 3 3 C? @?3 3   3 3   3 @D?   3 @DDD?   3 3

		   3 3 ZD? 3 3  3 3 3 3@? @4 3   3 3   3 ZDY   @DDD? 3   3 3

		   3 @DY 3 3 @DDY 3 3 3 @?   3   3 3   3 @DDD? ZDDDY 3   3 3

		   @DDDDDY @DDDDDDY @DY  @DDDY   @DY   @DDDDDY @DDDDDY   @DY

										by:

 

		 _____  ___   __   _____   __     __ ___   ___  _____  ___   __

		__      ____  __  __   __  __  _  __ ____ ____ __   __ ____  __

		 _____  __ __ __ ___   ___ __ ___ __ __ ___ __ _______ __ __ __

			 __ __  ____  __   __  ____ ____ __  _  __ __   __ __  ____

		______  __   ___   _____    __   __  __     __ __   __ __   ___

							   of Digital Infinity

 

			   Hello folks.  This is Snowman, bringing you a contest.

		  Yes, you guessed it.  YOU HAVE TO WRITE A SONG.

			   Musicians from the PC, Amiga, MacIntosh, and Atari

		  scenes are all encouraged to enter.  The prizes are modest,

		  but the goal of this contest is to allow computer musicians

		  from all across Earth to "show their stuff."

			   This contest has been running for about the past two

		  months.  Unfortunately, it did not occur to me to post the

		  rules into this publication until now.

			   THE BAD NEWS: You only have until the 31st of December

				  to submit your song.

			   THE GOOD NEWS: If you have a song already done that you

				  havn't released, then you are home free.

			   I hope that you decide to enter this contest.  We can

		  use all the entries we can get, and it is a good chance for

		  up and coming musicians to be spotlighted.

 

		  ---------

		  The Rules

		  ---------

 

		  1. The song's uncompressed length must not be more than
300,000

			   bytes in length

		  2. The musical format can be any one of the following:

			   MOD: can be the 4, 6, or 8 legged variety

			   669: must play correctly on Composer v1.3

			   S3M: must play correctly on S3MPLAY v0.9b

			   STM: must play correctly on DMP v2.71

			   FAR: must play correctly on Farandole v1.00

			   ULT: must play correctly on Ultra Tracker v1.3

			   MTM: must play correctly on Multitracker v1.00b

		  3. All entries are to be submitted before January 1st, 1994.

		  4. Only one entry per person

		  5. Songs already released are not allowed to enter

		  6. The archive name must use the format:

			   $$FILENM.<ZIP,ARJ,LHA,LZH> -- where FILENM is your song

			   title.

			   NOTE: Unfortunately, Internet does not accept files that

					 start with "$$", so if you upload it to an FTP
site,

					 just strip the "$$".  When I upload your song to a

					 BBS, I'll put the "$$" back in.

			 The file name must use the format:

			   $$FILENM.<MOD,669,S3M,STM,FAR,ULT,MTM> -- where FILENM is

			   your song title.

		  7. The song must have your handle and/or name in it.

		  8. The text file SUBMIT.TXT (included in this archive) must

			   be completed and included in your song's archive.

		  9. The song's archive may include any BBS ads, group .NFOs,

			   FILE_ID.DIZs, or any other such thing.

 

		  ------------------------

		  Comments and Suggestions

		  ------------------------

 

		  A. If you don't include your home mailing address in the

			   SUBMIT.TXT form, I won't be able to send you your

			   prize :(

		  B. If, for some reason, I can not download, unarchive, or

			   play your song correctly, it is your loss.  I have

			   been in this racket for quite some time now and know

			   what I am doing, so chances are that if something is

			   wrong, its probably not my fault

		  C. Upload your song to more than one location

 

		  -------

		  Judging

		  -------

 

			   There is a commitee of 5 member who will be voting on the

		  songs.  Here they are in no particular order:

 

			   1. Daniel Potter (author of Farandole tracker)

			   2. Mike Phillips (sysop of Digital Oxygene BBS)

			   3. Daniel Goldstein (author of MultiTracker Module
Editor)

			   4. Snowman (author of this contest)

			   5. Rob Butler (sysop of the Music Connection BBS)

 

			   Results will be gathered and posted as soon as possible

		  after January 1st.         

 

		  ------

		  Prizes

		  ------

 

			   The top five winners will be mailed a HD 3.5 disk with

		  all of the top songs on it.  Unfortunately, on a college

		  budget, that is about the best prize I can offer.

 

		  -----------------

		  How To Contact Me

		  -----------------

 

		  Christopher G. Mann/Snowman of Digital Infinity

 

			   Voice: +1-216-253-1019 (Akron Ohio, U.S.A.)

			   Internet: r3cgm@dax.cc.uakron.edu

			   Digital Oxygene BBS: Christopher Mann

			   Music Connection BBS: Christopher Mann

			   Snail Mail: Christopher G. Mann

						   40 Spruce St. (top unit)

						   Akron OH, 44304

						   U.S.A.

 

COPY OF SUBMIT.TXT...

 

Song Title:     

Author:

Date Submitted:

Length (bytes):

 

How to reach the author:

 

 

Comments:

 

 

COPY OF UPLOAD.TXT...

 

Where do I upload my entry?

---------------------------

 

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BBS                Number           BPS    Sysop              Location


------------------ ---------------- ------ ------------------
-------------

WORLD HEADQUARTERS

Digital Oxygene    +1-214-414-5041  14.4k  Mike Phillips      Texas USA

				   +1-214-530-4636  14.4k

				   +1-214-530-4820  9600

  (sign on under the name MUSIC CONTEST if you don't have an account, or

   sign on for instant access)

 

Music Connection   +1-214-596-2827  21.6k  Rob Butler         Texas USA

				   +1-214-964-3743  14.4k

  (sign on under the name MUSIC CONTEST if you don't have an account)

Data Connection    +1-703-506-8598  16.8k  Ryan Cramer        Virginia
USA

Programmer's Oasis +1-214-328-6142  14.4k  Daniel Potter      Texas USA

Gamma Quadrant     +1-515-221-9859  14.4k  High Density       Iowa USA

The Society        +1-503-329-4707  16.8k  Brent Page         Arkansas
USA

Wave of Wierdness  +1-418-285-4838  14.4k  Sleep Walker       Quebec
CANADA

Realm of Chaos     +1-519-736-2394  14.4k  Lord of Chaos      ? CANADA

The Sound Cave     +32-89-658392    14.4k  Neon               BELGIUM

The Sonic System   +32-82173        16.8k  The Orme           BELGIUM

Zyllius            +33-9332.0505    16.8k  Vincent Mallet     FRANCE

				   +33-9332.0720    16.8k

				   +33-9332.6875    21.6k

Necronomicon       +358-0-388-2710  14.4k  Lancelot_Agression FINLAND
 

 

The SOUND BARRIER BBS (sysop: Daredevil/Renaissance) is NOT an upload
site!

Under no circumstances are you to upload an entry to this contest to the

Sound Barrier.

 

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FTP                       Directory

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wuarchive.wustl.edu       \pub\msdos_uploads\mc1

info.brad.ac.uk           \incoming\mc1

 

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SNAIL MAIL

------------------------

Christopher G. Mann

40 Spruce St. (top unit)

Akron OH, 44304

U.S.A.

 

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Date: Sun, 19 Dec 93 21:35:26 -0500
From: gkmaier%crlvax.dnet@crl.mobil.com
Subject: No sound with Xanth/MEGAEM combo (help)

Hello,

I just bought "Companions of Xanth" since I'm looking for an adventure game
to entertain myself with.  It will work with SBOS, and does support MT-32
sounds, but whenever I run MEGAEM no sound at all will play.  I tried MEGAEM's
-rirqx switch, and have run the setup program many times along with changing
my ULTRASND variable, but no luck.

Does anyone know how to get Xanth and MEGAEM working together?

Thanks,
Greg M
gkmaier@crl.mobil.com
"Gleek gleek is a kooky guy..."

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Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 11:30:19 -0400 (AST)
From: Jurassic Mark <markus@Info.UMoncton.ca>
Subject: Quest For Glory 4 clarification...

GUS day people,

	 Can anyone confirm if Quest For Glory IV really uses the Sierra
32bits drivers?  So far, only Gabriel Knight and Police Quest IV does. 
Lesuire Suit Larry VI still uses the old drivers.  Someone told me that he
got QG4 working fine and the game is now on my list (The G-List).  I don't
think QG4 is using 32bit drivers because I get the demo running just fine
with the Sierra drivers.  Anyone care to clear this up? 

		 Marc Y. Paulin - Jurassic Mark (Usenet) - J-Mark (IRC)
   - markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (Talk 'n Mail) - (506)856-9518 -
			   APICS Programming Contest Winner of 1993
			-=* GUS won over SB by a score of 32 to 11 *=-

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Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 20:38:54 -0400 (AST)
From: Jurassic Mark <markus@Info.UMoncton.ca>
Subject: Re: Quest For Glory IV (fwd)

D'day people,

	Once and for all, here's the clarification about those so-called 
rumors about Sierra dropping us.  And I have another one from Gravis 
saying that it is true.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 93 19:31:08 EST
From:sierras@aol.com
To: markus@info.umoncton.ca
Subject: Re: Quest For Glory IV

Hello,

You are correct: QG4 is a 32-bit program that cannot use the GUS Ultramid
driver.  We are currently working with Gravis to see what can be done.  For
the moment, please be aware that our 32-bit games (QG4, Gabriel Knight, and
Police Quest:Open Season) do not support GUS.  

John / Sierras

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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 00:05:08 +1100 (EST)
From: Iain Huxley <ihuxley@ucc.su.OZ.AU>
Subject: SB rubbish

> This may seem like blasphemy, but does anybody know of a Sound
> Blaster/Pro/16 digest that works like this GUS digest? Admittedly, I
> would be interested in it. Could anyone tell me how to subscribe to
> such a digest?   

Don't worry, I'm sure someone will help you out of pure sympathy... 
Personally, though, I'd look into how to sell your SB16...

Iain

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Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 12:52:58 -0800 (PST)
From: Vincent Poy <hippo@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu>
Subject: Speakers

	I'm planning on getting new speakers for my GUS as the Labtec
SS-700 I have kinda sucks.  Is there any particular speaker anyone out
there would recommend? I saw Altec Lansing, Labtec, Koss, Sony, AR
Speakers but are not sure which is the best... or maybe I should get a
cheap SONY Receiver and hook up some Polk or Infinity Speakers ;-) Thanks!


Cheers,

Vince
hippo@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu
root@kingdom.com
System Administrator/Owner 
Kingdom Communications Inc./California Unix Public Access Systems Inc.
San Francisco, California USA
		  
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