Ultrasound Daily Digest     Fri May  7 00:07     Volume 3: Issue  37  

Today's Topics:
						   Email to Gravis
							FTP Midi sites
							GMIDI Support
					  Gravis' Sysop is alive...
						   How nice, Gunnar
						JOHN.SMITH@GRAVIS.COM
				  John Smith and email to gravis...
					   New Version of gusorgan
					Problems With Star Control II
					  Strike Commander (2 msgs)
					Ultrasound Daily Digest V3 #36
					 You are a lucky one Stuart.

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: 6 May 93 11:40:46 
From: Simon Whittaker <SWHITTAK@gst-soft.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Email to Gravis
Message-ID: <9305061148.aa26876@gate.demon.co.uk>

Not only does John Smith <grin> never return email messages, the sods
at Gravis don't even reply to fax messages from their loyal
customers.

At least I can slag off Gravis and not worry about getting my bonus
software.

Simon


=====================================================================
Simon Whittaker                                 GST Software PLC
Software Engineer                               Meadow Lane
Research and Development                        St. Ives
												Huntingdon
email : swhittak@gst-soft.demon.co.uk           Cambridgshire
voice : +44 (0)480 496789  ext 2204             PE17 4LG
fax   : +44 (0)480 496189                       England

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Date: Thu, 6 May 1993 16:52:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: Pawlo P Prawdiuk-1 <praw0002@student.tc.umn.edu>
Subject: FTP Midi sites
Message-ID: <Pine.3.05.9305061631.A7732-d100000@student.tc.umn.edu>

 


Host amiga.physik.unizh.ch

	Location: /pub/aminet/mus
	  DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x       1024  Apr  6 03:21  midi

Host athene.uni-paderborn.de

	Location: /news/comp.binaries.amiga/volume90
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Jul 15 1991  midi
	Location: /news/comp.sources.amiga/volume90
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Jul 15 1991  midi
	Location: /news/comp.sources.amiga/volume91
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Jul 15 1991  midi
	Location: /pcsoft2/amiga/aminet/mus
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Mar 31 02:15  midi
	Location: /pcsoft2/atari/tools/sound
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Feb 12 12:54  midi

Host cs.tut.fi

	Location: /pub/src/openwin/OL-example/ch6
		   FILE -rwxr-xr-x      16384  Apr 29 1991  midi

Host csc2.anu.edu.au

	Location: /pub/NCSA/outgoing/cwilson
	  DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        512  Apr 17 22:52  midi

Host emx.cc.utexas.edu

	Location: /pub/music
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Mar 27 1990  midi

Host ftp.germany.eu.net

	Location: /newsarchive/comp.sources.amiga/volume91
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Oct 18 00:00  midi

Host ftp.luth.se

	Location: /pub/amiga/mus
	  DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x       1024  Mar 31 00:04  midi
	Location: /pub/misc
	  DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        512  Feb  6 20:19  midi

Host ftp.uni-kl.de

	Location: /pub/amiga/aminet/mus
	  DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        512  Mar 31 00:06  midi

Host ftp.uu.net

	Location: /usenet/comp.sources.amiga/volume90
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Jul 29 1992  midi
	Location: /usenet/comp.sources.amiga/volume91
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Jul 29 1992  midi

Host ic16.ee.umanitoba.ca

	Location: /pub/msdos
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Mar  5 1992  midi

Host inf.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de

	Location: /pub/archive/comp.sources/amiga
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Mar 30 11:00  midi

Host ipc1.rvs.uni-hannover.de

	Location: /ftp1/rus/msdos/util
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Jul 29 1992  midi

Host kth.se

	Location: /unsupported/src/ASPinfo
		   FILE -rw-r--r--        319  May 27 1986  midi

Host louie.udel.edu

	Location: /pub
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Apr 26 02:33  midi
	Location: /pub/midi/software/ibm
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Apr 30 1992  midi

Host media-lab.media.mit.edu

	Location: /music
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Nov 23 20:41  midi

Host oes.orst.edu

	Location: /pub/mirror/amiga.physik.unizh.ch/amiga/mus
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  May  1 05:21  midi

Host otax.tky.hut.fi

	Location: /
	  DIRECTORY drwxrwxrwx        512  Nov  6 14:44  midi

Host plaza.aarnet.edu.au

	Location: /micros/amiga/audio
	  DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        512  Dec 10 09:11  midi
	Location: /micros/mac/umich/sound
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x       1536  Apr 21 08:12  midi

Host quepasa.cs.tu-berlin.de

	Location: /pub/amiga/uni-kl/aminet/mus
	  DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x       1024  Apr  6 22:39  midi

Host reseq.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de

	Location: /informatik.public/comp/platforms/amiga/aminet/mus
	  DIRECTORY dr-xr-xr-x        512  Apr  7 04:04  midi

Host rs3.hrz.th-darmstadt.de

	Location: /pub/machines/amiga/aminet/mus
	  DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x       1024  May  1 02:20  midi

Host saffron.inset.com

	Location: /pub/sound/samples
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Apr  5 01:34  midi

Host sol.cs.ruu.nl

	Location: /ATARI-ST
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Mar  5 16:32  midi

Host src.doc.ic.ac.uk

	Location: /computing/systems/mac/umich/sound
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Jan  3 03:46  midi
	Location: /usenet/comp.archives
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  May  3 1991  midi
	Location: /usenet/comp.archives/music
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  May  9 1991  midi

Host ucsd.edu

	Location: /
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Jun  7 1991  midi

Host uhunix2.uhcc.hawaii.edu

	Location: /pub/amiga
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Jun  9 1991  midi

Host ux1.cso.uiuc.edu

	Location: /amiga/.mirror/mus
	  DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        512  Jan 21 00:29  midi

Host walhalla.germany.eu.net

	Location: /pub/newsarchive/comp.sources.amiga/volume91
	  DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        512  Mar 31 1991  midi

Host wuarchive.wustl.edu

	Location: /mirrors3/archive.umich.edu/mac/sound
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Jan  3 01:42  midi
	Location: /mirrors4/amiga.physik.unizh.ch/amiga/mus
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Dec 19 08:11  midi
	Location: /systems/amiga/audio
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Dec  5 15:11  midi
	Location: /usenet/comp.binaries.amiga/volume90
	  DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        512  Jun 25 1992  midi
	Location: /usenet/comp.sources.amiga/volume90
	  DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        512  Jun 25 1992  midi
	Location: /usenet/comp.sources.amiga/volume91
	  DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        512  Jun 25 1992  midi

Host xcf.berkeley.edu

	Location: /misc/netjam/doc
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Jun 27 1992  midi
	Location: /misc/netjam/submissions
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Mar  6 23:00  midi

Host zaphod.ncsa.uiuc.edu

	Location: /outgoing/cwilson
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Apr 17 06:09  midi

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Date: Wed, 5 May 93 08:31:54 EDT
From: lsil!mhost!lsican!michael@fernwood.mpk.ca.us (Michael Smith)
Subject: GMIDI Support
Message-ID: <9305051231.AA08572@torsys04_7.Canada.lsil.com>

Is it possible for games, such as XWing, to use their native General MIDI
mode to communicate directly with the GUS?  I.e. is their a Midi equivalent to
SBOS which traps the Midi port transactions and dumps them to the GUS?  It
appears that this would be an ideal replacement for SBOS, since many games have
MIDI support.  Since most musical scores for games are probably
developed in the MIDI world, and then translated (read "downgraded") to some
Adlib/SB format, using a TSR that would allow support for GMIDI seems to be
the ideal way to go until more game manufacturers start supporting the GUS'
native mode.

Michael

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Date: Thu, 6 May 1993 09:12:00 -0300 (ADT)
From: Shadow Of Fear <markus@Info.UMoncton.ca>
Subject: Gravis' Sysop is alive...
Message-ID: <Pine.3.02.9305060900.C15522-b100000@clement>

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
	  Directly from his dark office on the top of a dark Tower.....
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/


	For those who are complaining about John's silence, I've been
successful 6 times out of 6 messages.  I received a message from him last
night so his computer is back on line.

+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|Name: Marc Y. Paulin                Address: markus@info.umoncton.ca       |
| Age: 21                            Talk Deamon: @clement.info.umoncton.ca |
|             Occupation: Student in computer programming                   |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| "Kirsty  and  Tiffany  re-enter  the  labyrinth,  where  Tiffany finds the|
|  puzzle box in  its  diamond  form.   Tiffany  stand before  Leviathan and|
|  begins to work  the box.   Channard arrives  menaces the  girl, but Julia|
|  appears behind Tiffany, and snatches her away.  Channard is distracted by|
|  a prolongned kiss from  Julia, which gives Tiffany time to resume closing|
|  the Lamen  Configuration.   Channard realizes too late what is happening,|
|  and slices Tiffany's  hand open  with a  tentacle  blade in an attempt to|
|  stop her." - HellBound: Hellraiser II - Clive Barker                     |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Date: Thu, 6 May 1993 18:50:05 -0500 (CDT)
From: Phil Johnson <pjohnso2@ub.d.umn.edu>
Subject: How nice, Gunnar
Message-ID: <Pine.3.05.9305061805.A20398-b100000@ub.d.umn.edu>

  Yknow, there is a good reason that Mr. Smith cannot answer questions as
quickly as you'd like him to: he has a life too.
  As GUS owners, we have a right to be helped with our problems and have
our qustions answered, yes.. but let's at least be fair about it.  Mr.
Smith is most likely a busy man (I do REMEMBER him saying he was going to
be unable to answer MAIL for awhile, CORRECT??) and he does have a job to
do.  Their job is not only to help the end-users but to also get support
from software/hardware manufacturers.
  Your comment "The customer is always right" is true, to an EXTENT.  Why
not be patient?  I understand that you have written over and over and not
gotten a reply...but they have other things to do, too.  Not say the
customers aren't important, but keeping their company alive is another
responsibility.  We are not the only ones who make it possible for Gravis
employees to have a job -- it is other companies (i.e. Forte) who have
helped in making the software.. imagine no Forte.. THEN where would our
upgrades be?  Don't forget we are not the only power..
  I, for one, have had few problems with SBOS, and I have never called for
technical help -- I figured it out, and it didn't take me 32.5 hours.  I
have not had the problems you've had, and I see that you're tired of them.
  I ask owners to try to be more patient -- better to have quality than
quantity of revisions.  We are busy, Gravis is busy, Forte is busy... in
time, I think we'll see what we want to see.  
  I hope by writing this I haven't started a major crisis.  :') 


*Phil

pjohnso2@ub.d.umn.edu

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Date: Wed, 05 May 93 21:33:09 
From: john.smith@gravis.com
Subject: JOHN.SMITH@GRAVIS.COM
Message-ID: <9305052133.A5830wk@gravis.com>

>Date: Tue, 04 May 93 10:38:53 -0400
>From: "It's your hand, Buckaroo" <dantonio@magick.tay2.dec.com>
>Subject: Re: John.Smith@gravis.com 
>Message-ID: <9305041438.AA21595@magick.tay2.dec.com>
 
> Does any body get a responce from John Smith when you send mail asking 
> about the GUS? I've sent like 5 messages over the last few months and 
> only got one reply when I first sent him something.
 
>No, I've NEVER gttan a response from john.smith@gravis.com, nor have I
>gottena response from postmaster@gravis.com or (I think)

>postmaster@whimsey.com which does the mail forwarding for "gravis.com"...In
>fact, others within DEC have gotten bounce messages from gravis.com...
 
>Any info would be appreciated, like does john.smith ever answer ANY mail??
 
>DDA

I'm reading all of you loud and clear and have been responding to EVERYONE's
messages.  And I'm not just saying that. <g>  You can email me at
sysop@gravis.com, postmaster@gravis.com, tech@gravis.com, or even
john.smith@gravis.com.  All mail goes directly to me.  I usually respond to
mail every morning between 8-11am.  The only people I am having problems
receiving mail from is BNR.COM.  I have been getting mail from people at DEC,
HP, IBM, CRS and everyone else under the sun.  Even got a bunch of mail from
some happy GUS owners in what use to be Russia.  Hmm..... I wonder if it could
be a routing problem with long addresses?  TBBS (our BBS software) can only
handle up to 60 characters I think.  Anyone out there with a REAL long address
I could try this out with?  If so, EMAIL me at john.smith@gravis.com so we can
check it out.

PS: The BBS is now back online.  We now have 4 modems on 604-431-5927 and 2
	more on a mail ONLY server.  Our percent busy has dropped from 85%
	on our old 2 line BBS to 23% on the new system.  Wew.. now maybe more of
	you guys can get on on the first attempt <g>
	 
C'ya all in the bit stream.

John

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Date: 6 May 93  9:30 -0700
From: Thomas Wong <twong@civil.ubc.ca>
Subject: Re: John Smith and email to gravis...
Message-ID: <3512*twong@civil.ubc.ca>

I'm not sure why others are having so much problem emailing him.
Perhaps your email bounced and never reached him. Being the guy
who looks after our ftp site, I email John every once in awhile
with questions. Mind you, it normally takes a couple of weeks for
him to answer cause I imagine he'd be swamped with a world of
questions (literally ;) ), but anywhere from a week to 3 weeks,
I'd get an answer. At the beginning, I was using the Compuserve
accounts for Alan, tech guy, and he took longer and longer to
answer as more and more people asked him questions. But John has
answered all my questions, from question on files he has on the
Gravis BBS, to who I should ask to look into my Ultra Chuck Yeager
order (which I did get a long time ago). And yes, I have been
using john.smith@gravis.com. Now mind you, I'm not sure if he does
get the mailing list, but I know he reads comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
cause he replies to questions there if you read it. They have just
moved to a new building so I don't think he will be able to get
things going again (set things up) for another week or so. And this
new site will provide more phone lines into Gravis BBS. Anyways,
here are the email addresses I have....


for Alan, the tech guy, 71333.350@compuserve.com.
OR
for Chris, the salesguy, yuzik@sfu.ca.
OR
for John, the Gravis BBS sysop, john.smith@gravis.com


Thomas.

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Date: Thu, 6 May 93 12:01:30 CDT
From: eason@ncrnd3.StPaul.NCR.COM (Dale Eason)
Subject: New Version of gusorgan
Message-ID: <9305061701.AA18595@ncrnd3.StPaul.NCR.COM>

I have uploaded to epas submit directory a new version of gusorgan.

New version of gusorgan ver 2.0
	Added mpu401 midi input support.
	Added pan position to patch config file.
	Added chromatic scale playing controls for patch audition.

Dale Eason

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Date: Thu, 6 May 1993 16:05:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Go <bgo@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Problems With Star Control II
Message-ID: <Pine.3.05.9305061626.A15654-a100000@sciborg>

The Music in SC2 sounds really strange.  It doesn't sound like my friends
version.  The music when orbiting a planet and cruising the solar system
is just horroble.  I took off the music and left the sound on.  Now
whenever a sound is played, a faint burst of static is heard. This game
was fine before I moved into a new place.  I don't run this with SBOS and
I run the gus669 player to clear the mem before I play.....
Send Help!


Brian Go             bgo@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca         Chemistry at Waterloo
Just Remember,  Midnight Oil,  Concert Hall, April 13, 1993,  10:30pm
In my world, there are sorrows. I'd rather drown in happiness...
				   <Nothing Lost and Nothing Gained....Midnight Oil>

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 16:06:41 EDT
From: "The Punisher" <colotti@acad.wit.edu>
Subject: Strike Commander
Message-ID: <0096BB67920C3EA0.0001AD39@acad.wit.edu>

	I was just wondering if anyone else has encountered a problem with
Strike Commander.  When I turn off the music to try to get the game to run
smoother, I get this annoying schreech in my ears. Has this happened to anyone
else?  BTW is there a patch to use all of the digitized stuff that comes with
the speech packet?  I don't get any speech when talking to people or anything. 
It is like the speech packet is not even installed (yes it is).  Please E-Mail
me directly SOON!!

-Chris  (colotti@acad.wit.edu)

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Date: Fri, 30 Apr 93 11:35:13 EDT
From: "The Punisher" <colotti@acad.wit.edu>
Subject: Strike Commander
Message-ID: <0096BCD3FA8A7E20.0000DEA2@acad.wit.edu>

	Has anyone else encountered any problems with Strike Commander?  For
instance when I turn off the music I get an annoying tone in my ears.  Has this
happened to anyone else?  BTW is the only solution to making this game run
smoother more memory?

-Chris

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Date: Thu, 6 May 93 23:53:16 CDT
From: ddebry@itchy (Dave DeBry)
Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V3 #36
Message-ID: <9305070553.AA18219@itchy>

	Heya, folks.  I'm back from my trip to the bay area.  Besides
telling you that I had a wonderful time seeing an old friend who I
miss terribly (sigh :), I will not bore you with the details of the
trip. 

	(BTW: Does Diablo Valley College have a net connection?)

> Date: Wed, 5 May 1993 12:00:44 +0501 (EDT)
> From: Gunnar Swanson <gunnar@gibbs.oit.unc.edu>
> Subject: John.Smith and the no mail blues
> 
>   There has been alot of talk about John Smith and others at the
> Gravis HQ not returning mail to important questions.  I have even sent
> mail to specific people at Gravis.com and I get no response.  Now I am not
> the pushy sort and figure people are busy but after reading all the notes
> of others who are experiencing the same problem I felt compelled to write.
> 
> I am mad as hell. 
> [And he goes on to explain why in infinitely painful detail.]

	Hey, Gunnar.  Chill.  Gravis has been moving this past week.

	Have you ever moved?  Just getting the new phone line hooked
up and the water, gas, and electricity turned on for a single
apartment can be a bureaucratic nightmare for a good deal of time.

	Now think about moving an entire company.  All the phone
lines.  All the computers.  All the networking stuff.  All the
miscellaneous physical office equipment.  All the people.

	Scary thought, eh?

	Give them a break... they'll be back soon enough.

-- 
Dave  ddebry@ debry@   \  "I am the Ghost of Corn Bran Passed."
DeBry dsd.    peruvian. | "Don't you mean 'Past'?"
	  es.     cs.utah.  | "No."
	  com     edu      /  "Ewww."

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Date: Thu, 6 May 1993 10:11:51 +0501 (EDT)
From: Gunnar Swanson <gunnar@gibbs.oit.unc.edu>
Subject: You are a lucky one Stuart.
Message-ID: <Pine.3.05.9305061051.A7513-b100000@gibbs.oit.unc.edu>

Dear Fellow GUSers,

	Dear Stuart Yoshida (hope I did not mangle that name ;)) and
others.  I have not been as lucky as yourself if you have a secret
(photos of him with another woman that sort of thing) that gets such a
good response rate great tell us.  I have a response rate of 3 for 7 if it
is that good.

	I do know that Gravis and Co. have moved but mine and I believe
others problems started long before that.  I am still waiting for a
response on two letters (real ones with an envelope and a stamp) that I sent
back in December.  I beleive this is a long term customer service failing
at Gravis Co. and they need to hear our feedback to improve.  I mean really my
office deals with the public and we recently moved and were still able to
get our customers served and half of our building is STILL (note of
bitterness :)) not finished.  At my office we remember which side our
bread is buttered on.  If we forgot we'd all be on the street the next day. 

	As for luck on CompuServe I think that it is great (truly) that
you have access and can get through to John Smith.  However, most of us
who use the Internet do so because we lack the means to use such a
service.  I would love to have an account with CompuServe but I simply
cannot afford it.

Well enough of my ranting for one day I'll stop boring you.

Serious comments and discussions welcome.  Flames, keep'em in the high
school locker room.

Ralph Nader wanna be

Gunnar Swanson gunnar@gibbs.oit.unc.edu

end.

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