GUS Daily Digest            Wed, 8 Mar 95  9:37 PST      Volume 20: Issue   8 

Today's Topics:
							  Cubic 0.95
						  Cubic Player 0.95
						   INCA II w/GUSMAX
					   Is ACE a good soundcard?
								Memory
					 Microprose e-mail addresses
						 Minor Orchestral Hit
						   OS/2 GUS driver
						 Stuff and Cubic 0.95

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 00:27:36 -0500 (EST)
From: "Jesse Ozog <GE>" <ozog@suntan.eng.usf.edu>
Subject: Cubic 0.95

> From: "Roy Koesters" <KOSTERS@brc.medtronic.com>
> Subject: Cubic Player 0.95
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> Maby somebody can help me out here. A few days ago a picked up 
> CubicPlayer 0.95. But I don't seem to get any sound with it. Every 
> time a load a module it says 'LOADING blablabla' and I get a lockup 
> (or something like that!). If I start in quiet mode everything seems 
> to work; without sound of course.

> Thanks,  Roy Kosters
> 
Just like Early versions of Doom, use a low IRq, (like IRQ 7) and things 
should run.  I worked the first time every time with my GUS MAX.
ultrasnd=220,6,6,7,7 <-----my settings
ultra16=32c,0,0,1,0  <----/

Jesse Ozog
I-NET: ozog@suntan.eng.usf.edu

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Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 15:47:51 -0800 (PST)
From: rhom@netcom.com (The Dixie Flatline)
Subject: Re: Cubic Player 0.95

> Maby somebody can help me out here. A few days ago a picked up 
> CubicPlayer 0.95. But I don't seem to get any sound with it. Every 
> time a load a module it says 'LOADING blablabla' and I get a lockup 
> (or something like that!). If I start in quiet mode everything seems 
> to work; without sound of course.

Make sure your IRQ is below 8, the DOS4GW DOS extender that CubicPlayer uses
doesn't like any IRQs above 8.  BTW, an upgrade to CubicPlayer 0.96 is
available now at hornet.eng.ufl.edu, in /demos/incoming/music/cp096l.zip.

Ray

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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 04:14:04 -0800 (PST)
From: "Jr." <omen@netcom.com>
Subject: INCA II w/GUSMAX
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950308041150.4676A-100000@netcom14>

I'm having trouble getting Inca II By sierra to work with my GUSMAX.  I 
get no sound what so ever.  Has anyone had any luck with this??
Thanks
omen@netcom.com

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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 12:32:10 +0800 (CCT)
From: "CHAN MEI YING" <s915240@hp720a.csc.cuhk.hk>
Subject: Is ACE a good soundcard?

   Hello everybody! I am a user of the pro-audio spectrum 16. I was greatly
impressed by the sound quality of the gravis ultrasound max. But the problem
is that I got a SCSI cd-rom and the gusmax doesn't have a scsi controller.
So I am considering purchasing the gus ACE daughter sound board. But I want
to ask the following questions first:

1. Does the ACE have comparable quality with sound quality with gusmax?
2. Is the installation simple? Do I have to deal with jumper? Must I assign
a separate dma channel and separate interrupt to it?
3. what is the size of the tsr program? Does it conflict with the tsr of
proaudio spectrum 16?

  Just hope that any expert could give me some advice! One thouand thanks in
advance :)

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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 00:59:36 -0500
From: rwyckoff@biddeford.com (Richard Wyckoff)
Subject: Memory

I don't know why everyone ignores a 2MB solution - after all, it doesn't
have to be only 1 or 4 MB.   Unfortunately, the proper solution will have to
be what others have mentioned and other companies have done: a combination
of ROM and RAM.  I say unfortunate because it will go a long way to killing
the most unique and almost totally ignored (among game companies, anyway)
aspect of the GUS: the ability to use custom patches.  As a musician, I'll
be able to expand my memory in order to finally turn this theoretical Gravis
board into a worthwhile sampler (providing Gravis gets their act together
and provides OS/2 drivers or at least fixes their Windows drivers).  As a
gameplayer, though, I can expect companies to support this soundcard in only
the most basic configuration, and in the easiest way possible.  This will
probably mean only using the Interwave for snore-inducing
Generic-er-*General* MIDI soundtrack, despite the availability of RAM for
non-General MIDI (i.e. INTERESTING) instruments.  If this Interwave board
has only 256k RAM base, developers will most likely not even want to waste
their time taking advantage of this feature, and with 512k, will think twice
about it.  1 MB of RAM, therefore, should be the minimum, with a decent
sounding ROM patch set (at least 2-3MBs, and without the compressed crap
instruments other companies use to cut costs.  

Furthermore, this "entry-level" notion has got to go.  I paid nearly $200
for my 512k Ultrasound MAX last summer, and I don't consider that
entry-level (of course, the MAX wasn't really meant to be entry-level, but
ends up being considered that by many, since it only provides features the
regular Ultrasound should have had).  I'd be willing to pay $250 for a board
which wasn't designed as entry-level, wasn't marketed as entry-level, and
wasn't perceived by the industry as entry-level, because I know that for
$250 a Gravis board would have as much power as any other company's $450
board...and then I could actually afford to expand the RAM to professional
musician standards.

Meanwhile, isn't it ironic that magazines have begun touting QQP's use of
the AWEful32's Soundfont technology in The Perfect General II as some sort
of revolution... HELLO?  I have yet to see any of these magazines get
specific, because I suspect that what this amounts to is loading the sound
effects in as instruments - What a revolutionary concept!  Gee, the
Ultrasound's only been able to do this for about three years, and the
now-discontinued Roland MT-32 could also accept downloaded sound effects for
years before that!  Huh - sounds like Microsoft - take a technology that
already exists, then sell it as a revolutionary concept with an enormous
advertising budget...
																			
							Richard Wyckoff
--
Please register this product now to avoid uninterrupted use.

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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 1995 11:54:47 -0500 (EST)
From: All Hail Brak! <JKS4675@ritvax.isc.rit.edu>
Subject: Microprose e-mail addresses

Here are the e-mail addresses for Microprose...feel free to tell them about the
lack of working GUS support in XCOM ("Oh, THAT patch! August at the latest!").

UK did XCOM and is doing World Circuit II (You know, the game with the UGLY
Formula One cars).

US- 76004.2223@compuserve.com
UK- 71333.314@COMPUSERVE.COM

	Incidentally, the dork that insists on making the Digest his soapbox
for bashing .SIG files and entire letter quotes is taking up way too much
space. Could somebody remove his name from the digest (or at least show him how
to e-mail individuals). The proper solution is to gang-FAQ the offending
individal, not to curse, moan, and gloat about the downfall of modern
civilization. If said individual gets flustered, commit a ground-breaking act
and e-mail me instead. The rest of the world (and quite likely, myself) doesn't
want to hear it anyway. Sorry I took up so much space.

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Date: Tue, 07 Mar 1995 14:55:34 EST
From: Rollerblading Dude <timkwan@MIT.EDU>
Subject: Minor Orchestral Hit

The Orchestra Hit patch that I have is a major chord.  Is that how it is
defined in the GM set?  What about a minor version of the patch?  Does
anyone have a minor one? Can you send it to me please?  Thanks.

-Tim

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Date: Tue, 07 Mar 1995 15:27:00 -0500 (EST)
From: All Hail Brak! <JKS4675@ritvax.isc.rit.edu>
Subject: OS/2 GUS driver

Since Gravis has done such an utterly wonderful job with the timely release of
the OS/2 drivers, does anybody know what is planned for the next version of the
Manley drivers? Is the digital joystick driver going to be bolted into the next
registered version?

One other thing- why does 16-bit AIL not work in VDMs? I get an error
amounting to 'Ultramid already installed' after considerable HDD activity.

Jeff

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Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 12:26:23 -0600
From: bbaskin@mail.utexas.edu (Bryan K. Baskin)
Subject: Stuff and Cubic 0.95

Hey Roy Koesters,
		I got Cubic 0.95 and it works for me as long as you set the GUS to
the lower IRQS, just like in Apogee games. I have mine set to
ULTRASND=220,1,1,7,5. I haven't tried it in DOS yet, but i'm assuming it
will work there too. It currently works great in OS/2. Plays midi files like
32 channel mods using Gravis patches on ANY card. Weird. I don't have a
Math-Co so i haven't seen the scopes or 32-bit interpolation, etc.

To guy-who-has-old-GUS-and-wants-to-upgrade,
		I have the same thing. Go and get the newest disks and install them.
Then get any additional stuff of the internet. Or convince a friend to get a
GUS or GUSMAX and borrow his disks. I've done this 5 times now, from 2.06 to
3.59!

Later,

												  Baskin -)
												  The University of Texas at 
												  Austin
												  Team OS/2

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Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 12:36:21 -0800
From: wil@cats.ucsc.edu

GUS MAX and System Shock CD

Is it possible to run System Shock CD with the GUS MAX?  Supposedly,
there is a gravis directory, but it doesn't exist.  Any ideas?

Wilson
wil@cats.ucsc.edu

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