Ultrasound Daily Digest     Thu, 25 Feb 93       Volume 2 : Issue  53 

Today's Topics:
						   [GUS] New SDK's
						  Csound OS/2 port??
					   GRAVIS AUTHORIZED NODES
				GUS + Time Magazine CD-ROM = No Sound
						  GUS: Please help!
GUS owners - corrupted FAT's/harddrives? (was Re: Gusmod 2.04 + Scopes = Static from (2 msgs)
				   GUS Wavetable questions (2 msgs)
		HELP!  I am new here and have no idea what's going on!
					   PARTIAL DEVELOPERS LIST
						  playmidi question
						 Sierra's garbage...
						 SQ V and Ultrasound

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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 11:04:55 GMT
From: bjornhk@dhhalden.no (BJORN HAAVARD KLEVEN)
Message-Id: <bjornhk.165.730465495@dhhalden.no>
Subject: [GUS] New SDK's
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

News on Gravis' Software Development Kits for GUS:

- The current low-level version will be re-released, with manuals,
better documentation and much improved tools (e.g. the patch-editor)
as well as 3D-routines. This SDK will be available WITHOUT the
developer having to sign any non-disclosure agreement. It is said to
be out in 2-3 weeks.

- The source code for the library-files of this SDK will also be
available to some developers, requiring them to sign an extensive
and much more specific non-disclosure agreement than the current one.


	 -=* Bjorn :: bjornhk@dhhalden.no
   ACCESS DATA :: TEL: (+47)-9-17 50 48/61-97 311 FAX: 61-97 312
				  BBS: 61-97 945 300-14400 bps, 24 hrs

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Date: 24 Feb 93 21:10:17 EDT
From: Richard Wyckoff <RWYCKOFF@cardinal.sc107.wesleyan.edu>
Message-Id: <MAILQUEUE-101.930224211018.807@cardinal.sc107.wesleyan.edu>
Subject: Csound OS/2 port??
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1993 19:35:48 -0500
From: "Anthony Green" <roboco!green>
Subject: Need testers for port of Csound.

> I have ported an audio processing system, called Csound, to OS/2 and DOS from
> unix/NeXT. I need a small group of people to try it out for some time before
> I have it uploaded to an ftp site.

	How is this coming?  (The OS/2 version particularly)  I've sent you two e-
mails about it, and received no response, so I figured I'd send this to the
whole list...anyone else working on interesting GUS software for OS/2?

	While I'm at it: Francois Dion - can you post the ftp site that you said
already has a DOS version of Csound which you used for your ANASYN patches?
Much as I hate DOS, I may have to settle for that version for now...(and yes,
I know you said you posted the address three times already, but I don't keep
my back issues... ;)
**              Richard Wyckoff - Catullus - .Sig radio edit               **
** RWYCKOFF@CARDINAL.SC107.WESLEYAN.EDU  --  RWYCKOFF@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU   **

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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 10:33:00 -0800
From: john.smith@gravis.com (John Smith)
Message-Id: <730563618.AA01103@ship.net>
Subject: GRAVIS AUTHORIZED NODES
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

This is a reminder.  The original was posted last week.

Important News
--------------
  ~ The Authorized Gravis Node application form is ready.  You may
	download GRAV-APP.ZIP off our BBS or FREQ GRAVAPP.  This file
	includes all the necessary information required to apply.

	IMPORTANT: We are only accepting 20 nodes to start off with.  To
			   be considered you MUST have your application in to me
			   by FEB 28 1993.

  FidoNET:        1:153/978
  SBCNET:         13:900/3
  InterNET EMail: john.smith@gravis.com
  Fax:            (604) 431-5155
  BBS:            (604) 431-5927 V32bis

John

cc: ALL
	ALL
	ALL
	ALL
 ~ QMPro 1.01 05-8925 ~ Dogs come when you call. Cats have answering
machines.

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Date: 24 Feb 1993 18:31:05 -0500
From: stu@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Stu Brown)
Message-Id: <1mh0fp$aim@stu.Warren.MENTORG.COM>
Subject: GUS + Time Magazine CD-ROM = No Sound
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

I can't get SBOS to work with the Time Magazine DOS CD-ROM videos.
They provide a device driver which plays sound through a Sound Blaster
but on my machine the video just stops with no sound after 0.1 seconds.
I have some settings for the Time driver (sndblk ?) to make the
DMA and Interrupts match the GUS, but it just does the same thing.

Has anyone got this application to work?
-- 
Stuart Brown
Mentor Graphics Corporation
I.C. Group, Warren NJ
stu@warren.mentorg.com or uunet!sdl!stu

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 06:55:14 GMT
From: gabrielj@fraser.sfu.ca (Gabriel Noah Jones)
Message-Id: <1993Feb24.065514.9147@sfu.ca>
Subject: GUS: Please help!
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

> None of the demos work - Unreal, Panic, Facts of Life, anything.
> Stunts sounds horrible.  UW alternates between no voice, a scratchy
> voice, and a good voice, depending on the configuration.
 
Unreal works with SBOS 1.22.  Panic will work in some cases 
but has been proven to work consistently with SBOS 1.3x which 
will be available soon.
 
> PLAYMIDI and GUSMOD both work fine, though GUSMOD can't play
> AXELF.MOD at all where my SB could.  When I switch to
> 16 bit DMA, playmidi is dead without OPTIFIX.
 
Wait for Gusmod 2.10.
 
> SBOS 1.20 - no luck.  Panic pretends its not there.  Unreal plays
> it at a digusting wavering speed with lots of hiss and static.
> SBOS 1.23 - no difference.  Xwing demo dies just as the first few
> fighters come flying out of that big ship.
> go to 16-bit DMA from 8-bit - nothing.
 
Like I said, use SBOS 1.22 until 1.3x is released.  SBOS 1.23 is
only a beta and SBOS 1.2 is dated.  You also require EMS to
get voices in the X-wing demo.
 
> I've cleaned out my autoexec and config sys files.  I use the
> sbosdrv.sys in my config, after I load himem.sys, emm386 with
> ems, put dos high, and do files=40 and buffers=40.
 
Don't use sbosdrv.sys.  Only use the executable.  SBOSDRV.sys
will cause static in digital sounds and music with certain
programs
 
Good Luck!
 
Da Lazer (of Da Ghetto Bwudaz)

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 18:10:13 GMT
From: ken@austin.ibm.com
Message-Id: <C2v3t1.oyM@austin.ibm.com>
Subject: GUS owners - corrupted FAT's/harddrives? (was Re: Gusmod 2.04 + Scopes = Static from
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

hell)
Keywords: 

kjohnson@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Kurt Edward Johnson) posts:

>PS - I did have one major problem that I won't be repeating anymore.  I had
>shelled to DOS from my terminal program after dloading a mod and played with
>GUSMOD.  I dloaded another one afterwards and went to shell to DOS and got an
>error from NDOS (Norton's version of command.com) and my computer locked.  
>Upon rebooting I had lost part of my FAT table :) Fun fun fun.


O.K. This is the third post I've seen on this. One was mine.

Somewhere along the line, my FAT was also corrupted. I had to totally reinstall
my system. One poster mentioned he though the DARETRO demo had done it, and now
someone had GUSMOD corrupt their FAT. I ran both of these applications, as well
as others.

Is there an actual problem with some of the applications people are writing,
or are we all just victims of bad reboots? How many people has this happened
to?

>and my floppy drive going a little wacko

Weird. Mine did the same thing.

What's going on with this?
-- 
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 21:39:37 GMT
From: dregeczi@fraser.sfu.ca (David Joseph Regeczi)
Message-Id: <dregeczi.730417177@sfu.ca>
Subject: GUS owners - corrupted FAT's/harddrives? (was Re: Gusmod 2.04 + Scopes = Static from
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

ken@austin.ibm.com writes:


>hell)
>Keywords: 

>kjohnson@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Kurt Edward Johnson) posts:

>>PS - I did have one major problem that I won't be repeating anymore.  I had
>>shelled to DOS from my terminal program after dloading a mod and played with
>>GUSMOD.  I dloaded another one afterwards and went to shell to DOS and got an
>>error from NDOS (Norton's version of command.com) and my computer locked.  
>>Upon rebooting I had lost part of my FAT table :) Fun fun fun.


>O.K. This is the third post I've seen on this. One was mine.

>Somewhere along the line, my FAT was also corrupted. I had to totally reinstall
>my system. One poster mentioned he though the DARETRO demo had done it, and now
>someone had GUSMOD corrupt their FAT. I ran both of these applications, as well
>as others.

>Is there an actual problem with some of the applications people are writing,
>or are we all just victims of bad reboots? How many people has this happened
>to?

>>and my floppy drive going a little wacko

>Weird. Mine did the same thing.

>What's going on with this?

Soon after running the same demo... (not right after though)... my DOS 
directory was completely deleted.  Don't know if the "problem" is related,
but just so you're aware...

|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| 
|  David Joseph Regeczi    | When a man boasts that he never changes | 
|  Simon Fraser University | his mind, he's taking it on himself     | 
|  Vancouver, BC, Canada   | always to go along one straight line,   |
|  dregeczi@fraser.sfu.ca  | an ass who believes in infallibility.   | 
							   - Vautrin (Pere Goriot by Balzac) 

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 22:08:28 GMT
From: dce@smsc.sony.com (David Elliott)
Message-Id: <C2vEu5.DAE@smsc.sony.com>
Subject: GUS Wavetable questions
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

In article <C2MBBC.DE0@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca>, ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran) writes:
|> The GUS has 32 voices, and each voice can be assigned any instrument it
|> has in its RAM.  The 16 instrument limit is a MIDI side effect, since MIDI 
|> has 16 channels, and each channel can have only one instrument.

Let's make a distinction here.

MIDI does indeed have 16 channels per network, but this does not mean
you can only have one instrument per channel.  This seems like a
Roland-ism that has propagated to GUS.

It is quite common in electronic music to have 2 or more "instruments"
(meaning either separate units or separate timbres in a single
multi-timbral unit) playing from the same channel in order to "thicken"
a sound by detuning or having different LFO response on each instrument,
or to create new sounds by combining different ones, or even to make
chords by transposing the instruments.

It is less common, but still useful, to use "splits" so that more than
16 instruments can be played.  For example, the actual range of a typical
trumpet part is less than 3 octaves (the best I ever did was just over 2),
while MIDI provides 10.  Using transposition, I can get two completely
different trumpet parts on one channel on a Kawai K5 (with some
restrictions on controllers).

Sadly, the capability to do this is slowly being lost because it's
generally easier to buy a second MIDI interface.

BTW, since this topic was about "wavetable", I am still unconvinced
that the GUS synth is a wavetable synthesizer.  Everything I have heard
so far is that it uses samples, but that doesn't equate to wavetable.

--
...David Elliott
...dce@smsc.sony.com | ...!{uunet,mips}!sonyusa!dce
...(408)944-4073
..."Do you sing like Olive Oyl on purpose?"

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 22:08:51 GMT
From: dce@smsc.sony.com (David Elliott)
Message-Id: <C2z46s.Mx3@smsc.sony.com>
Subject: GUS Wavetable questions
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

In article <C2yoHE.L3K@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca>, ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran) writes:
|> I don't think MIDI will allow you to have more than 16 independent
|> instruments at any one time.

What you mean is correct, but why not say it straight out: MIDI has 16
channels per network.

With most normal equipment, this also means 16 "independent instruments",
but it doesn't have to.  In the first place, realize the the term
"instrument" tends to be musically-related, yet I can use MIDI to
control lights, computers, tape decks, or even toasters.

Also, don't forget about MIDI modification software.  With a single
Macintosh and MAX, I could develop a system that would encode 16 MIDI
channels of data into one channel (mapping data into MIDI controller
values), thus giving me the capability of 31 independent instruments
on one network.

The limitation of 16 channels is for typical users using typical
instruments thinking in typical ways.  It doesn't pay to think this
way.

|> You can upload half a cycle to the GUS and have it loop it bidirectionally,
|> I believe.  But I don't think the card has the hardware to fiddle much
|> with the resultant waveform.  As such, I don't think that the GUS is
|> a full-fledged wavetable synthesizer.  Then again, much of the 
|> versatility of a wavetable synth can be had through a patch editor and
|> software function generators for the card. 

Thank you for clearing this up.  I tried getting this out of the GUS
FAQ person, and he kept insisting that GUS was a wavetable machine,
but every time I asked wavetable questions, I got sample playback
answers.

Still, what I don't get is: Why does Gravis want to usurp the term for
a less powerful synthesis method for their more powerful method?

Why not call it what it is: sample-based synthesis.  If I want realism,
I would not buy a wavetable synthesizer (I have one, and I use it for
anything but realistic sounds), I would buy a sample-based
synthesizer.  If they want to lord something over FM, "realism" is the
term to use, not "wavetable".

--
...David Elliott
...dce@smsc.sony.com | ...!{uunet,mips}!sonyusa!dce
...(408)944-4073
..."Do you sing like Olive Oyl on purpose?"

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Date: 24 Feb 1993 23:44:00 -0500 (EST)
From: FILREGER@delphi.com
Message-Id: <01GV49FFVT6A935DUQ@delphi.com>
Subject: HELP!  I am new here and have no idea what's going on!
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

Hello.  I recently read a file that said it was from your address.  Could you please tell me where on Internet I can access Advanc
d Gravis Ultrasound files and messages...Thanx.
write back at FILREGER@DELPHI.COM

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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 10:28:00 -0800
From: john.smith@gravis.com (John Smith)
Message-Id: <730563618.AA01102@ship.net>
Subject: PARTIAL DEVELOPERS LIST
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

						 Partial Developers List

This is a partial list of companies who have the Gravis UltraSound
developers kit.  Included is their voice telephone number and fax
number if known.  This document is being made available to you
as a REFERENCE ONLY.

	Company Name                 Voice Tel. #    Fax Tel. #
	---------------------------------------------------------
	Access Software              801-359-2900    801-359-2968
	Accolade                     408-985-1700    408-246-1053
	Activision                   310-207-4500    310-820-6131
	Amaze Inc.                   206-820-7007
	Animotion Graphics           205-591-5715    205-591-5716
	Apogee Software              214-240-0614    214-278-4670
	Asymetrix                    206-637-1542    206-637-1542
	Autodesk Inc.                415-332-2344    415-289-4750
	Azeroth Inc.                 206-392-9941    206-391-7812
	Bethesda Softworks           301-963-2000    301-926-8010
	Borland                      408-438-4701    408-438-8696
	Broderbund                   415-382-4400    415-382-4523
	Cineplay                     503-223-4449    503-223-8946
	Compton's New Media          619-929-2500    619-929-2511
	Davidson                     310-793-0600    310-534-3169
	Dr. T's Music Software       617-455-1454    617-455-1460
	Electronic Arts              415-571-7171    415-571-7993
	Gametek                      305-935-3995    305-932-8651
	Hollyware                    310-822-9200    310-390-0457
	Ibis Software                415-546-1917    415-546-0361
	Icom Simulations             708-520-4440    708-459-3418
	Impressions                  203-676-9002    203-676-9454
	Interplay                    714-553-6655    714-252-2820
	Kesmai Corporation           804-979-0111    804-979-5428
	Knowledge Adventure          818-542-4200    818-542-4205
	Legend                       703-222-8500    703-968-5151
	LuscasFilm Games             415-721-3300    415-721-3342
	Macro Media Inc.             415-442-0200    415-442-0190
	Maxis                        510-254-9700    510-253-3736
	Mecc                         612-569-1500    612-569-1551
	Micrografx, Inc.             215-234-1769    215-234-2603
	Microprose                   410-771-6711    410-771-1174
	Mindcraft Software Inc.      310-320-5214    310-320-1522
	New World Computing          818-999-0606    818-593-3455
	NovaLogic                    818-774-0600    818-774-0684
	Odyssey Software Inc.        508-240-2317    508-686-9288
	Origin                       512-335-5200    512-328-3825
	Psygnosis                    617-731-3553    617-731-8379
	QQP                          908-788-2799    908-788-7684
	ReadySoft                    416-731-4175    416-764-8867
	SSI                          408-737-6800    408-737-6814
	SCO                          408-425-7222    408-458-4227
	Sierra On-Line               209-683-4468    209-683-3633
	Sir-Tech Software Inc.       315-393-6451    315-393-1525
	Spectrum Holobyte            510-522-3584    510-522-3587
	The Bruce Artwick            217-656-9796    217-356-7895
	The Learning Company         415-792-2101
	The Software Toolworks       415-883-3000    415-883-3303
	Three-Sixty Pacific, Inc.    408-879-9144    408-879-9739
	Virgin Games                 714-833-7810    714-833-8717
	Walt Disney                  818-567-0284    818-973-4160
	Westwood Associates          702-368-4850

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 10:00:31 CST
From: lrg@carina.cray.com (Lee R. Gordon)
Message-Id: <9302241600.AA18629@crud.cray.com>
Subject: playmidi question
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

Hello,

	 I just bought my GUS 3 days ago, and I'm still in the process of
getting everthing set up.  I've ftp'ed all of the archive over, and I'm
using the v1.22 software.  I've managed to get everything to work except
for some of the MIDI files.  After RTFM and RTF FAQ, I thought I'd ask.
On some MIDI files, playmidi (3.50) complains about 'load patch failed - 
<patch name> - 7' (or something like that).  Is this because I only have
256K in my card?  I plan on upgrading ASAP, but the only local place I
found the chips only was willing to part with them in a set of 9 for
$5.50/chip...

	-Lee

Lee Gordon              ATT:   1-612-683-3100 
Cray Research, Inc.         Fax:   1-612-683-3099
655E Lone Oak Drive         Email: lrg@cray.com or
Eagan, MN 55121                    uunet!cray!lrg

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Date: 24 Feb 1993 15:29:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: DEATH BEFORE DISCO <JKS4675@ritvax.isc.rit.edu>
Message-Id: <01GV3S43VBUQ8Y7NL4@ritvax.isc.rit.edu>
Subject: Sierra's garbage...
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

I'm all for boycotting Sierra.

Why??

1) The obvious...no GUS support and the service is $$$ oriented.

2) I REFUSE TO USE A BOOT DISK ON A 486/33 WITH 16MB RAM because
   their programs need 99.9999%% of the 640K DOS limit. Get with
   it. This is 1993....use more of the extended, for pete's sake.


This is a pain in the ass on a system that does more than play
games. I will not purchase anymore of their code.

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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 93 09:20:38 EST
From: stu_brown@Warren.MENTORG.COM
Message-Id: <9302241420.AA09535@stu>
Subject: SQ V and Ultrasound
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

I have been playing SQ V with my Ultrasound SBOS and contrary to the
other report of problems, mine has been working perfectly. In fact,
the sound and music is in stereo - a suprise to me because I thought
SBOS only supported the mono SoundBlaster. It sounds much better than
other SB games through SBOS. I do not hear any digitized speech, but I
don't think the game has digitized speech. My configuration is SBOS 1.23,
486/33, MS-DOS 5.0, Adaptec 1510 (programmed I/O) SCSI controller, and
CD-ROM.

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