GUS Daily Digest            Fri, 30 Dec 94  9:37 PST     Volume 17: Issue  29 

Today's Topics:
							 Armored Fist
		Crystal CODEC chip?  Oh oh, no more reprimands please.
				   Dark Forces WILL support the GUS
			   Does Gravis turn back to GUS ???? part 2
						 Gravis OS/2 Drivers.
					   Gravis sends you stuff?
						   GUS and Descent
				  GUS Daily Digest V17 #28 (2 msgs)
						 GUS Incompatibility?
			   GUS MAX and popping during MIDI playback
						  gus midi interface
				 KQ7 crashes with GUS window drivers?
			Manley drivers vs. Gravis' alpha OS/2 drivers
							Megaem & Qemm
							Rebel Assault
					   Reposting Entire Digest
  Ultrasound Internet Archive Services - New Files Validated - Dec.
							   UUDECODE

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 21:07:47 +0200 (EET)
From: Samuli Niiranen <samulin@walli.uwasa.fi>
Subject: Armored Fist



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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 20:18:29 -0800 (PST)
From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." <pchienjr@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Crystal CODEC chip?  Oh oh, no more reprimands please.

>I thought there was no signiffigant hardware differences between the GUS
>and the GUSMAX.  So what's the deal with the Crystal CODEC chip then?  I
>own a MAX (for the CDROM interface, mainly) and it's amazing.  So what's
>in the Crystal CODEC that the standard GUS ain't got?  Just wondering.
>
Remember how everyone totally cut down on the guy who was wondering why 
patches had to be loaded on the hard disk even though Gravis uses a 
Crystal to store its patches?  Well, I think this is just another 
confusion that should be clarified.  Crystal is a referral to Voice 
Crystal (tm), a patch set that Gravis uses for the UltraSound.  Analogous 
to Creative Labs using EMU for its ROM samples.  Other Voice Crystal 
products are RAM cards to insert into synthesizers.  So that's it for 
Voice Crystal;  it's just a company.  It's not really a technology like 
Superman's ice computer or the gizmos they use on Star Trek.
					-Peter

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Date: Fri, 30 Dec 94 01:38:56 -0400
From: "Chris Campbell" <campbell@fox.nstn.ca>
Subject: Dark Forces WILL support the GUS

I got mail from a LucasArts employee saying that they are working on GUS 
support for the commercial release of Dark Forces!

YEAH!

-- 
Merry Christmas and a happy New Years!
Chris Campbell
campbell@fox.nstn.ca

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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 21:31:48 -0500 (EST)
From: Maillet Martin <mailletm@ERE.UMontreal.CA>
Subject: Does Gravis turn back to GUS ???? part 2

In reponse to Kevin who ask:"I was going to upgrade but decided
							 not to since there was not supposed to
							 be any difference from a sound-quality
				 point of view and I don't need to do any
				 sampling. 
							 Now I'm wondering if I made the right
							 decision. 
					 Am I the only one who's getting these
							 bad vibes? Any comments Gravis?"  
I can said
no, your not the only.....  Since the beginning, I have a GUS.  I think
since many years that the GUS is the best sound card in the market but the
most important problem of this card is DEFINITLY the support.  This
problem is not the fault of users but of company (Gravis and software
companies) who not do their best (lack of support, time in releasing
software, delay, etc.) The GUS is suppose to be a BIG card, but for now,
any LITTLE card already got the OS/2 support.  Lets go Gravis, talk to
us!!!!  I really think that if the GUS is alive today, its beacause we
support and participe (Digest, GUS ftp, demos, interest....).  Like Kevin,
I haved not upgrade because I don't need the 16 bit recording and the
CD-rom port.  If you (Gravis) decided to ignored all ancient GUS users say
it write now!  I think we have writes to know what is going on in the
ULTRASOUND future.  

Martin 
mailletm@ERE.UMontreal.ca

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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 11:09:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Eric Hobbs <erich@pacifier.com>
Subject: Gravis OS/2 Drivers.

Hi.
I installed the new Gravis OS/2 Drivers and I found them to work quite 
well.  Folks have been saying that they skip a bit on MIDI playback.  
It's just a guess, but they seem to be skipping due to patchloads.

In Windows, there would always be a delay before the song started playing 
because the patches were being loaded.  It seems that in the OS/2 
Drivers, there is a small patch set in the GUS, and when a MIDI file 
playes, it just plays with what the card has loaded until it gets a 
request for a new instrument and then tries to load it on the fly, 
resulting in a skip.  If you played a song all the way through, then 
immediately played it agin from the beginning, you may find, as I did, 
that the song playback will not skip at all.  I assume because the 
patches that the song needs are already loaded in the GUS.

Just a thought.  Sorry for the spelling errors...


 --------------------------------------------------------------------
Eric Hobbs
erich@pacifier.com          "SysAdmin in training..."
 --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 20:11:46 -0800 (PST)
From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." <pchienjr@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Gravis sends you stuff?

>the disks are real... i uploaded them myself... 8) they were sent to
>me by Gravis.... (i hear 3.59 is out.... anyone care to upload it ?)

Gravis sends you disks?!  I've never gotten anything since I sent in my 
registration cards -- and that's for two products -- the UltraSound and 
the Gamepad, not to mention a personal response from Gravis email saying 
that they will re-enter my registration information that I've sent them 
over email!  I never get anything from them -- why me?  I've never gotten 
the MAX upgrade offer (I only heard it through this digest), I've never 
gotten an offer to beta test their super cool super expensive new 
joystick (heard it through the net), and I've never gotten any offers for 
MIDI adapters, add-on boards, UltraSound-AMD news from Gravis.  All from 
the net; nothing from Gravis.  You, my digest friends, are my product 
support, not Gravis.  You.  Thanks for being there when Gravis was never.

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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 21:36:51 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mark T. Heintz" <mheintz@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Re: GUS and Descent

I have an old GUS (1 meg) and a DX2-66 w/ 8 meg ram, and Descent works fine 
for me...  From experience, it seems Descent respects a very clean boot...  
No EMM, no smartdrv...  Load as little as possible and give it a try...  It 
worked for me and my friends...  Just a thought, I don't think the 
problem is with the Ultrasound.

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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 14:22:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Shannon Bradford <sbradfor@ecst.csuchico.edu>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V17 #28

The Warcraft patch is out.  The file is called CD115.EXE and is about 
400k.  I downloaded it from Blizzard's BBS 1(714)556-4602 last night.  
Warcraft now supports the GUS!  The sounds are great.  Unfortunately, 
There's a bug with my server, so I can't upload to the net.  Hopefully 
someone will upload the file to the net soon and post the site.  There 
are also many other bug fixes in this patch.

Shannon

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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 94 22:31:25 -0400
From: "Chris Campbell" <campbell@fox.nstn.ca>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V17 #28

>Date: Wed, 28 Dec 1994 16:24:49 +0800
>From: "Christopher Bolin" <cbolin@teleport.com>
>Subject: Dark Forces and NO GUS support!
>
>The Dark Forces demo does *NOT* support the GUS

Yeah I know I just couldn't belive it.  I mean thanks a lot.  They support 
the AWE32 etc but do that support the GUS?

They have lost my business.

>Be sure to write LucasArts and tell them how much you would enjoy
>GUS Support
>Internet E-Mail: 75300.454@compuserve.com
>Or send e-mail to LucasArts3@AOL.com

Thanks for the address, let's send them so much e-mail they will be sorry 
they didn't support the GUS 8D8D

You should post that in the soundcard groups too!

>Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 11:34:10 -0500
>From: am246@freenet.carleton.ca (Nam H. Pham)
>Subject: Dark Forces GUS sound solution
>
>Using SBOS v3.82, I found that if you load it with sbos -o4
>Set digital sound to Sound Blaster and if you want music (abit scratchy),
>set music to 4-OP FM.

Yeah but who wants crappy SBOS sound?  I hope AG writes a MAXSBOS for the 
normal GUS.  That really makes me mad ya know.  Sure now all they are going 
to do is support the GUS MAX even though we GUS users have been supporting 
them from the start.

>The same appends with me. The game works fine with the -nosound parametre 
>though.
>I have GUS with 768k in a 486/66 8M
>PLEASE HELP
>                        -Dan

Oops deleted the header by mistake oh well.  Dan, I have a GUS with 768k as 
well, maybe it's a bug with 768k GUS'?

Anyone that has 768k that has Descent working?

>Date: Wed, 28 Dec 1994 12:57:07 -0800
>From: an136978@anon.penet.fi
>Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V17 #27
>
>>
>>GUS Daily Digest            Wed, 28 Dec 94  9:37 PST     Volume 17: Issue =
> 27=20

What's the deal with this?  I didn't want to read all of yesterdays digest 
all over again!

-- 
Merry Christmas and a happy New Years!
Chris Campbell
campbell@fox.nstn.ca

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Date: Sat, 31 Dec 1994 01:10:59 +0800
From: jchen@hs.hkis.edu.hk (Jonathan Chen)
Subject: GUS Incompatibility?

Hello GUSers,
	Here is a problem that my friend has with his GUS card.  HE has a ASUS
PVI-486AP4 motherboard (with both VL-Bus and PCI slots) plus 8Mb of RAM.  When
he installed his GUS, the Diagnostics in the setgus program reported "Busy
(read)" when he checked the SBOS mode and DMA.  The Test function also reported
failure while the SoundBlaster selection was being tested.  Another intresting
thing is that his Windows will hang his machine when the GUS drivers are loaded
unless ULTRAMID is loaded before Windows startup.  I myself used to have this
problem when I tried to install my GUS in my other computer (absolutely no
relations with my friend's computer except they both use 486-66's and have
VL-Bus slots, and are made in TaiWan, but not by the same company).  Is it some
sort of incompatibility with the VL-Buses or some of the chips in the
motherboard?  Can it be fixed or does it require a motherboard replacement?

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
*        Jonathan Chen           ***              HKIS student                *
* Internet: jchen@hs.hkis.edu.hk ***    I will procrastinate... tomorrow.     *
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 02:55:21 -0500
From: fta@wbb.com
Subject: GUS MAX and popping during MIDI playback

Well, I have a GUS Max rev 1.8 and I have some problems with popping and
crackling sounds, too (especially when I move my mouse!).

First of all, how loud is the noise and does it happen when your GUS Max
is NOT playing anything?  Are you sure it's not just interference from
neighbouring boards?

Just my $0.02.  I'm not a long-time GUS user, but these seem to be the
most obvious causes and should be ruled out as early as possible.  I am
having problems with noise as well (not very loud, but annoying), and
would be very interested in what others have discovered.  In my case,
all I can think of is some kind of flaw (design or accidental) in my
motherboard, video card/IDE interface, GUS Max, or power supply.  Really
narrowing it down there!

Good luck!

 ---------------------------------------
| Call me "FRED"  |    <fta@wbb.com>    |
| Toronto, Canada | <ab002@torfree.net> |
 ---------------------------------------

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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 13:09:42 GMT
From: Arthur@cattell.demon.co.uk (Arthur Cattell)
Subject: gus midi interface

My help is limited, but having bought a gus interface, I could get no response
from the keyboard. I checked that midi thru was on and all my windows drivers.
Dos drivers would not work either.
Help came in a free update in software from a mag. I installed the new software 
and everything works fine.
-- 
Arthur Cattell

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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 16:13:28 EST
From: "Carl" <CARL@BUSOP.CIT.WAYNE.EDU>
Subject: KQ7 crashes with GUS window drivers?

I have KQ7 which is a Windows only program and it crashes as soon as 
I start up.  It plays about 1 second of audio and then complains 
about a WaveOutHeader problem, and won't let me continue.  What's the 
deal?  Is there any work around?  I've tried to get the wave to play 
out my SBPRO and it works but I can't seem to get music (MIDI) to 
play out my GUS... headaches..!

--
Carl Mueller                                               cRaNeScUrEpJhArVeY
WSU Detroit, Michigan                                                      :P      

	  "the way the rain comes down hard, that's the way i feel inside"

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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 22:26:11 -0500 (EST)
From: rjm@dciem.dnd.ca (Robert Manley)
Subject: Manley drivers vs. Gravis' alpha OS/2 drivers

lala@interaccess.com (Imre Olajos) wrote:
> Subject: OS/2 Alpha driver
> 
> Hi, everybody!
> 
> Just a few comments on the Alpha release of the OS/2 drivers. I have
> Warp installed on my machine (parallel with DOS/Windows). The Manley
> drivers were OK, but the still unofficial Gravis drivers are somewhat
> better than the shareware (!) Manley-drivers. My OS/2 can now play
> MIDI musics through the GUS sytnh while still playing the system sounds.
> A big drawback is that the GMIDI musics seem to have timing problems,
> plus they get stuck once a while, but then keep on playing after a sec.
> I didn't try it yet in a DOS box, but then I just installed Warp a few
> days ago (it was a christmas present for myself... :), so I hardly know
> OS/2 itself...

If you're going to use these drivers, be sure to shut down all OS/2 audio
apps before running a DOS app which touches the card (including ultrinit
inside your AUTOEXEC!).  Without the serialization provided by AUDIOVDD
(or ULTRAVDD in my drivers), doing this could cause a TRAP.

Many people have asked me what I think about them and I would have to
agree with the original poster - the MIDI support seems solid and the
WAVE playback is acceptable.  What it doesn't have is any soundcard
emulations inside DOS sessions or WinOS2 support AT ALL.  These are
the features that I have been working on for the last couple of months
to allow me to still offer a product when this day finally arrived.

One other comment.  The functionality provided in my VDD could easily
be integrated with their PDD.  Gravis could either purchase my code or
implement the standard AUDIO VDD/PDD interface (which is a subset of
an extended interface I used).  An offer has been submitted.

Robert.
-- 
# Robert J. Manley,  NEW: rjm@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca  #
# NTT Systems Inc., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA      #
# OS/2:OSs :: 92,93 Blue Jays:MLB :: Canada:World #

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Date: 28 Dec 1994 00:00:00 +0000
From: lars@istda.north.de (Lars Ehrichs)
Subject: Megaem & Qemm

>With Qemm 7.5 it's simple: Use the option "Pentium:VME" which is also  
>good for 486's

Thousand excuses, of course , as others wrote, it's P:VME:N or  
Pentium:VME:N. Next time I'll look in the manual.(Page 91)
It says it costs some system performance, does anyone know how much ?

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Date: Fri, 30 Dec 94 11:37:05 MET
From: <martinus@morra.et.tudelft.nl> (Martijn de Jong)
Subject: Rebel Assault

Hi Gussers,

I know this question was asked before, but I forgot the
answer. What do I have to do get Rebel Assault working as
fast with the native ultrasound support as with SBOS. In
native the game's much slower which shows for example on the
speech. The speech and the mouths aren't synchronous. Using
SBOS they are, but you hear a bit of a popping in the music.
I have version 1.7 of Rebel Assault. I guess I have
something to change on my buffer configuration, but I don't
know what. 
Thanks in advance,

Martinus.

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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 1994 17:21:12 EST
From: "Scott C. Savett" <scsavett@acad.ursinus.edu>
Subject: Reposting Entire Digest

Have we discovered who is reposting the digest to itself?  It appeared that
someone with an anon account did it this time.  Couldn't we ask the anon
service to yank their account?  This IS getting annoying.... (just echoing
sentiments of everyone else, I'm sure).

Scott

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Date: 29 Dec 94 13:28 -0800
From: Thomas Wong <twong@civil.ubc.ca>
Subject: Ultrasound Internet Archive Services - New Files Validated - Dec.

29, 1994


			 GRAVIS ULTRASOUND INTERNET ARCHIVE SERVICES NEWS
==============================================================================

Hello everyone. It's finally done.......

I've just finished validating a new batch of files from EPAS' submit
directory for Dec. 29, 1994 for the Ultrasound Internet Archive
Services.

Please allow 24 hours for all Ultrasound sites to be updated.

Lot's of good stuff this time around so I'll get to it right away.
Here are the file listings and the corresponding directories the files
has been moved to.....

____________________________________________________________________


Subdirectory:   .../demo

ignite.zip - Ignite demo by Xtatic



Subdirectory:   .../game

GF166.ZIP - DIGPAK Sound Driver for US Navy Fighter to work with GUS
doom2p16.zip - patch DOOM II Ver 1.666 to 1.7a, fix some GUS problems
esgusfix.zip - Metaltech: Earthsiege GUS fix from Sierra
gus1m.wad - Optimized MIDI mapping for 1MB GUS for DOOM
indycar.zip - Patch for Indy Car Racing for Ultrasound
wc3d_gus.zip - Sound hack for GUS for Wing Commander III Demo
1994pool62.zip - 1994 Pool Ver 6.2, COOL billiard game! VGA, GUS
1995card62.zip - 1995 Card Ver 6.2, Cool card game! VGA, GUS



Subdirectory:   .../gravis/disk

gus357-1.zip - Gravis Ultrasound Install Disk Version 3.57
gus357-2.zip /
gus357-3.zip /
gus357-4.zip /
gus357-5.zip /
gus357-6.zip /



Subdirectory:   .../gravis/util

ail30.zip - Pre release version of AIL Ver 3.0. Not from Gravis BBS
ssisbos.zip - Special SBOS Ver 3.60 for Flashback
ultrahlp.zip - Ultrasound SDK Ver 2.21 Reference Version 1.0



Subdirectory:   .../info

GUSCD_LS.ZIP - Ultrasound Experience CD directory listing
g1123.zip - G-List, date revised 11-23-94, GUS info list



Subdirectory:   .../sound/midi/files

doomid11.zip, nausica1.zip, omd.zip, sukii.zip (GM), xmasmids.zip



Subdirectory:   .../sound/midi/util

advent.zip - Advent Shareware program with 25 midi Xmas cards



Subdirectory:   .../sound/misc

JUKER44.ZIP - The Juker Ver 4.4 multimedia jukebox for Win, multi-format support
ck-vr.arj - DMF Files to be used by DMF X-TSR Player
ck-watis.arj - DMF X-TSR Player Ver 0.10beta + DMF Files
klf-vrtx.zip - KLF's first .XM release
xmipack.zip - XMI Pack includes XMI to Mid convertor Ver 1.2 + XMI ripper



Subdirectory:   .../sound/mod/files

CaveIn.zip, happyha.zip, happyha2.arj, kobold.zip, remix1.zip, vsand.zip,
workrob.zip, sky_doit.arj, sky_psyc.arj, sky_stan.arj



Subdirectory:   .../sound/mod/util

NTRAC10B.ARJ - NordTracker Ver 1.0b1, NTC + NTS tracker
cmod205.zip - CapaMod Ver 2.05 MOD + S3M player for the GUS
etrck07.zip - Extreme's Tracker Ver 0.7 beta, GUS tracker, many mod formats
grind13.zip - GRIND Ver 1.3, Mod player with sync people dancing
morgl110.zip - Morgul Ver 1.10 Mod player, file system, support compressed files
scrmt32.zip - Scream Tracker Version 3.2



Subdirectory:   .../sound/mtm/files

mm-mercy.zip, mm-rave.zip, mm-retro.zip, sky_extr.arj, sky_nagd.zip,
sky_nwpr.zip, sky_swme.arj



Subdirectory:   .../sound/patches/files

PIANO_CD.ZIP, ar-tr808.zip, e_guitr2.zip, e_power.zip, e_reeda1.zip



Subdirectory:   .../sound/s3m/files

asp_mhz.zip, dorado.zip, dream.zip, farewell.zip, futurist.arj,
gww.zip, lumin.arj, micpho.zip, nighacid.zip, ptdrs3m.zip, spacy-c.zip,
sky_armg.zip, sky_marj.zip, sky_moex.zip, sky_mosq.zip, sky_pand.zip,
sky_psrx.zip, sky_sbvr.zip, sky_trex.zip, sky_wait.zip



Subdirectory:   .../sound/wav/files

3d_demo.arj



Subdirectory:   .../util/dos

cdinfo14.zip - CDINFO Ver 1.4, raw audio CDROM reader/player
jale067e.zip - Jaleo Ver 0.67e, Super audio system for DOS
kardp10.zip - KaraDOS Ver 1, Karaoke player for DOS, supports Ultrasound
kards01.zip - Song files for KaraDOS



Subdirectory:   .../util/os2

ultra06c.zip - Manley's GUS MMPM driver for OS/2, Version 0.6c



NOTES TO UPLOADERS:
===================

INTENSE.ZIP - Not GUS related. Please upload to a games site.
britrpno.zip - Can't unnzip. Please re-upload.
cgtab14.zip - Nothing to do with GUS.
darklight.mid - Crashes when played on GUS.
fracbmit.zip - Can't unzip. Please re-upload.
hminscr.zip - What is this? No text file, can't tell what it is.
holodeck.au - Not GUS related. Please upload to a sound clip archive.
momgus.zip - Can't unzip. Please re-upload.
moo_gus.zip - Can't unzip. Please re-upload.
nad004.zip - No advertising on this site.
q-t.zip - Can't unzip. Please re-upload.
readcda.zip - Not GUS related. Please upload to other archive sites.
roar1.wav - Not GUS related. Please upload to a sound clip archive.
sftk700e.zip - Don't support GUS. Leave off GUS site.
shades.mid - Don't seem to work with GUS. Crashes players.
tililey.zip - Can't unzip. Please re-upload.
uudecode.com, uuencode.com - Not GUS related. Please re-upload to DOS sites.
wmidas.zip - Not GUS related. Please upload to Windows Programming sites.
sky_mdrm.arj - Can't unzip. Please re-upload.


 
PARTING COMMENTS:
=================

Well there you have it. A lot of files this time around. Just in time
for you to get a chance to play around with them during the New Year
holidays. :) A lot of great files this time around. More GUS games like
the 1994pool and card games. The pool (billiard) game is pretty cool!
Thanks for all the patches to existing games and hacks for making Wing
Commander III's demo to work with the GUS! Lots of new players like
Grind with the dancing people and KaraDOS for Karadoke on the GUS. Cool
updates like the version 3.57 of the Ultrasound install disks and
Manley's latest OS/2 driver which works for the newly released Warp. And
of course, tons of new cool sounds from S3M to MODs.

Thanks for all the support for the Ultrasound everyone! Thanks to all
the game and software manufacturers who are building their programs with
native GUS support! The GUS is finally settling down as a standard that
is being supported by many.

Thanks again everyone! Happy GUSing! Have a wonderful New Year!
Go GUS Go! :)


Thomas.

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Date: 29 Dec 94 13:57:00 -0600
From: Daryl_Welu-CDW006@email.mot.com
Subject: UUDECODE

	 Can someone email a copy of uudecode and instructions to me. I am 
	 having a heck of a time trying to find a copy of it for the PC. I have 
	 several GUS files that were sent to me that I cannot access. 
	 
	 Please help, anyone !
	 
	 Thank you, Daryl Welu

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End of GUS Daily Digest V17 #29
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