GUS Daily Digest            Sat, 10 Dec 94  9:37 PST     Volume 17: Issue  10 

Today's Topics:
						1024 banks, not 1024K
					   Careful with GOOD TIMES!
							   CyberWar
							digest echos !
					   GUS Daily Digest V17 #9
							   GUS Pro
					  GUS Windows Drivers bug...
						HMI drivers in general
					 Howling Dog Systems Patches
					   INDYCAR patch....please!
						Ivan's Patch Question
							 links386pro
							OK I fixed it
					 People Quoting the digest!!
				  PGP sigs, fingerprints and keys...
						   Posting apology
					   So, it begins again....
					 Win 3.1 drivers under WIn 95

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: 09 Dec 94 17:50:11 EST
From: "Eric Bell, Howling Dog Systems" <71333.2166@compuserve.com>
Subject: 1024 banks, not 1024K
Message-ID: <941209225010_71333.2166_DHQ63-3@CompuServe.COM>

> >The UltraSound drivers are set up so that you can make up banks with any
> >sounds you want, and up to 1024 or more of them, as well.
> >Eric, Howling Dog Systems

> Correction: that's 1024k of RAM. Each instrument could take up to a whopping
> 700k+ such as the Acoustic Grand Piano that's included in ProPats! There's
> is no way possible to even load all the General MIDI instruments at the same
> time due to this memory limitation. That's why they use patch cacheing.

Correction on your correction, I meant you can make up 1024 *banks*. What you
say is correct regarding RAM, patch caching etc.

Eric, Howling Dog Systems

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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 10:11:28 -0500 (EST)
From: "K.S. Holly" <u8843389@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA>
Subject: Careful with GOOD TIMES!

In the last digest, we all saw a coded message called GOOD TIMES!

I had been told that it is a virus of sorts and that if you downloaded it 
or read it, your hard drive would be erased. Then I was told that it was 
a hoax. Some far-reaching hoax, that's for sure!

Anyway, I read my mail through a modem pool so I'm safe but I hope no one 
else had any problems.....

Kevin

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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 10:48:53 +0800 (WST)
From: Roderick Nasir DAVID <ruffus@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>
Subject: CyberWar

> 
> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 94 13:09:49 "CST
> From: Jim English <jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu>
> Subject: cyberwar
> 
> hey, I was wondering how good the Native GUS support on Cyberwar is.
> It looks like an interesting game, but the part on the box about 320x200
> scares me.  I mean why put a game on 3CD's if it's just going to be
> 320x200.  Anyone have this game?  I'd like to hear what it really looks/
> sounds like in action.

I've seen the CDROM demo of this game Jim, and my word, who really cares
if its in 320 x 200, the Graphics will blow ya socks off!!

I heard that they had trouble fitting the whole game on three cd's!

As far as the GUS is concenred though, its supported throught HMI 
(along with just about everything else, but hey?) and works well.
I had a good little chuckle about the AWE32 though, in the booting
up sequence for the game, theres a message that goes like this...
		
	"Using AWE32 in sb16 mode" ...

Made me laugh a bit ;)

Regards and GUS hard,

Nasir
-- 
* Seeya on the groove train! | "My mistress eyes are Nothing Like the Sun"  *
*                    _+-_|\  |                William Shakespear            *
*                   /      \ |   Nasir David at the...                      *   
* Perth , W.A ----> +_.--._/ |   University Of Western Australia.           *

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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 12:56:38 +0800 (GMT+0800)
From: FLAT^^TOP <kohkhang@iscs.nus.sg>
Subject: digest echos !

who is the moron who has been forwarding the whole previous day's
digest as a reply.....

-- 
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| kohkhang@iscs.nus.sg, MsWFWG, GUSmax, Kelvin 64, & Supra v.Fc 28.8 user |
\====<DOOMer, X-phile, BattleTech, Babylon 5, StarTrek & StarWars fan>====/

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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 02:44:50 -0700 (MST)
From: KKAHN@cc.weber.edu
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V17 #9

Hi.. I've been off the net for some time.  I've been wondering if Gravis
has updated their basic software that runs in Windows.?  I've found the
Pat maker Light to be less than ideal for the production of good *.pat
files.  anything new.?  
 
also, when I upgarded the dram in my sound card, I noticed that there
were blank spots on the card whre other chips might be installed.  does
gravis have future plans to make the card expandable to maybe 4 or 5 megs.?
It seems to me that it wouldn't be very difficult.  I once had a Hayes 14.4
modem about 5 yearsa ago that got it's upgrade when you sent in the whole
modem.  It tookthem about two weeks to do the upgrde and send the unit
back.  If I recall, this was one of the first DSP based modems available
on the mareket at that time.  I think the GUS Max is also DSP based, so it
would seem sensible tome that those blank spots could indeed be intended for
an upgrade along this line..  

so the real question is;  when are they planning on doing this.?  and I hope
this isn't somethign that they have decided against and instead will
produce a new card with the extra memory.. :-(  The gus needs mo' memory.!
I want it to creep beyond that cheesy Casio keyboard sound.. even the new Pro-
pats don't cut it.  You just can't do anything reasonable with a meg now a 
days..

thanks for reading this! :)

kkahn@cc.weber.edu

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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 94 14:55:22 +0100
From: chtruyen@vub.ac.be (Truyens Carlo)
Subject: GUS Pro

Hi !

Some time ago I bought myself a GUS MAX.
When I record a sample in DOS, using USS or PlayFile, everything goes
allright, and I can record what I want and how.

When I start Windows 3.1, the 'volume' of my gus seems to jump up,
at least, my amplifier does :(.
I can try to cut down what I want, I tried to cut down everything except
WAV output & Line In Gain when recording, but I still have so much noise
ontop of my recordings, I can't even hear what I recorded.
What's wrong here ?

Also, why didn't gravis release an UltraSound expandable to 128MB ?
When I want to do something more professional, I bump against the 1MB barrier.

-- Carlo.
<chtruyen@vub.ac.be>

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Date: Fri, 09 Dec 94 10:48:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Francis Li <fli@nermal.santarosa.edu>
Subject: GUS Windows Drivers bug...

I have had this bug ever since Windows drivers 5.21 to 5.47 (and probably 
before, too):  When playing a Windows game that uses both MIDI and 
digitized sound (this time, KQ VII) after a while, digitized sounds will 
cut out and every patch in the card will play.

The game will continue, and music will continue, but sounds will not 
play.  Even after quitting the game, ALL sounds are affected (system 
sounds, playing in media player, etc).

Are there new Windows drivers in the 3.57 disk set?  If so, could someone 
zip-up the ULTRASND.DRV and GRVSULTR.386 and put it on EPAS?  

I have e-mailed this problem to tech1@gravis.com, but I don't know when 
I'll get a response...

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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 94 04:49:00 UTC
From: r.wyckoff1@genie.geis.com
Subject: HMI drivers in general

As we've mostly all seen by now, games using HMI drivers tend to not work
with the GUS until you've done the configuration file hacks that have been
posted to the digest a few times already.
 
What I'm not sure if everyone is aware of is the fact that the HMI drivers
have problems with other soundcards as well. I have an SB16 as well as a GUS
(to get around the stupid compatibility problems which were going away until
HMI showed up), and many HMI games I've tried out recently don't even work
right with the SB16.  One case in point is Cyberia, which doesn't even
support SB cards with their DMA set to anything besides channel 1.  Another
case is The Lemmings Chronicles, which wouldn't work with GUS or SB16 on my
system, despite my freeing about 600k total DOS memory (the game asks for
around 580k for SB16 sound, 600k or so for GUS).
 
I work at a software store and I've also had occasional customer reports of
other games like Earthsiege crashing repeatedly, a problem which may or may
not also be due to HMI.
 
Couple these probable instability issues with the fact that the drivers
aren't user-upgradeable, and I have to question why any companies are even
using them, when John Miles' AIL drivers have a much longer history and, I
believe, support more brands of soundcards.  I realize that the multi-
channel 3.0 version of the AIL drivers may have been released after the HMI
drivers, so it is possible that these companies went with whatever was
available when they started design.  Nevertheless, I would suggest that
anyone who has purchased an HMI game labeled "Ultrasound compatible" which
required ANY hacking to make it work complain to the publisher about their
use of these drivers.  After all, this is the kind of problem which should
NOT have gotten past beta testers.
 
The only thing worse than publishers not adopting a standard set of sound
drivers is their adopting a standard that doesn't work.
 
														-Richard Wyckoff

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Date: 09 Dec 94 17:49:49 EST
From: "Eric Bell, Howling Dog Systems" <71333.2166@compuserve.com>
Subject: Howling Dog Systems Patches
Message-ID: <941209224949_71333.2166_DHQ63-1@CompuServe.COM>

George wrote:

> As for your Howling Dogs CD collection of GUS patches, I would be interested
> in purchasing it so I can get my hands on the orchestra/jazz drum patches,
> but I don't have access to a CD-ROM player.  Don't you sell separate banks
> on disk?
> -George

Yup, any of the patch sets are $29.95 US each plus $5 shipping. If you buy
multiple sets, the cost drops. I'll e-mail you more info.

Eric Bell, Howling Dog Systems

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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 10:14:09 -0500 (EST)
From: "K.S. Holly" <u8843389@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA>
Subject: INDYCAR patch....please!

I am having trouble getting satisfactory sound out of INDYCAR.

I have read that Papyrus has an FTP site with various patch files on it 
and that Jayeson LeSteere (is that right?) had written a patch for 
INDYCAR and it was on this site. Does anyone know about this and the 
address of the site?

Kevin

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Date: 09 Dec 94 17:50:00 EST
From: "Eric Bell, Howling Dog Systems" <71333.2166@compuserve.com>
Subject: Ivan's Patch Question
Message-ID: <941209225000_71333.2166_DHQ63-2@CompuServe.COM>

> The question is, how would one use these patches with existing .mid format
> files (as opposed to .pow or other format files).  The only .mid-format
> compatible (i.e. reads and writes .mid files without changing them, or with
> only minimal change) sequencer I know of that maps CC0/CC32 changes into the
> wBank argument for bank switching is wincake, and then only for drum banks.
>
> Ivan Strom

You can manually edit your ULTRASND.INI to temporarily change the default
sounds to new ones from the patch CD or you can use Bank Manager in Windows to
load a bank, and then play the MIDI file from the Media Player.

Eric, Howling Dog Systems

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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 04:13:43 -0600 (CST)
From: Jarrod Loewen <jloewen@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: links386pro

Ok.  The GList says to use -x2 with sbos and -s with links.  I've tried this
and various other sbos variations but all hang my machine when I run links.
I'm using the 3.56 disk set and a patched links (1.10?)

Thanks for any help!
--jj

-- - -- Jarrod J. Loewen -- Systems Operator -- University of Manitoba -- - --

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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 22:25:12 -0500
From: Christian Brideau <brideau@revcan.ca>
Subject: OK I fixed it
Message-ID: <9412092225.aa28519@macdonald.revcan.ca>

I know how they do it to subscribe the digest to itself.  (EH IT'S NOT ME!!!)
Just to let you know that I unsubscribed it. I'm not going to tell how I
do it, because some smart asses may want to give it a try...  I'm willing
to do it everytime some net-hooligan does it again.  (It takes only a minute
od my time)

Christian O. Brideau
Analyst
Revenue Canada

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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 07:45:18 -1000 (GMT-10:00)
From: Paul Murgatroyd <s1114@kowande.Bond.edu.au>
Subject: People Quoting the digest!!

Look,

this has gone far enough. When are people going to learn tot quote either 
the whole digest, or large chunks of it?? I really don;t want to have to 
read through yesterday's digest again...especially not three times in the 
same digest! If this happens again, I am unsubscribing to this digest...I 
do not have time for people who can't follow on simple direction. I mean, 
how hard is it to notice that you are quotig the whole digest???

Wake up whoever you are!!!

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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 14:09 -0500
From: DANTONIO@PROCESS.COM (Momentary Language, Sexual Situations)
Subject: PGP sigs, fingerprints and keys...

For what it's worth, I've seen all three appended to news postings and mail
messages. I believe that the PGP Fingerprint (generally one line) is a "cheap
and dirty" way to "sign" a message without the huge "real" digital signature.

To make this message have SOME relevance to the GUS, I'll ask again, "What
features will the mythical OS/2 drivers have and when will they (the real
drivers, not beta drivers) be released?"

My mailer choked on a previous posting to this question may be redundant...

DDA

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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 15:59:19 -0700 (MST)
From: Jeffery Chin <chin@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
Subject: Posting apology

Massive apologies for that error, I did not mean to repost the whole 
digest, but I was logged off by call-waiting and did not know that the 
message was sent.

Please forgive the error.

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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 10:08:45 -0500 (EST)
From: "K.S. Holly" <u8843389@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA>
Subject: So, it begins again....

So, I see that we have multiple digests again......&*$%#^@&@^#%$$

I noticed that one of these inclusions was a mistake by a reader, not the 
server. Jeffery Chin I think his name was, included the whole digest in 
his posting. An apology may be an order there....

As for the other one, maybe someone is sabotaging the digest by 
re-subscribing the digest itself as a subscriber?

Anyway, I hope it doesn't get as bad as before....


Kevin

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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 94 13:07:20 EST
From: catena@arrcee.enet.dec.com
Subject: Win 3.1 drivers under WIn 95

Well,

they sort of work. what has changed a lot is the mixer interface so I can't 
get the 3.1 mixer stuff in the driver to act as a mixer under win95. This is a 
problem unless you like to always have you mic input on. 

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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 94 14:56:37 +0100
From: chtruyen@vub.ac.be (Truyens Carlo)

Hi everybody.

I've been working around with the WarCraft commercial version, but I didn't 
manage to get native support... SBOS works sometimes, but the sounds sound 
strange sometimes.

chtruyen

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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 94 17:35:03 +0100
From: chtruyen@vub.ac.be (Truyens Carlo)

Yo !

I managed getting WarCraft (commercial) to work with my GUS MAX this
afternoon. I now get 100% correct music using AIL v3.0 drivers from epas.
However, for the sound (.DIG) I still get 'exception 06h', but i'm working
on it.

For those who want to try :

1. backup mpu401.mdi.
2. replace mpu401.mdi by umid.mdi.
3. load in the ultramid.exe supplied with ailv3.0 drivers.
4. run setup.
5. choose 'No Sound' at sound setup.
6. choose 'General MIDI' at music setup.
7. run game.

That works just fine for the music. The sound is still a problem ...

As soon as I managed to get the best result, I'll make an automated patch
and post it on epas.

Carlo.

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