GUS Daily Digest            Wed, 30 Nov 94  9:37 PST     Volume 16: Issue  30 

Today's Topics:
							AU Sound file
						  CD Audio connector
						  gus+soundman wave?
				GUS and Adaptec 1542b SCSI controller
					  GUS and KQ7 under Win 3.1
					   GUS Daily Digest V16 #29
					GUS drivers for Windows NT3.5
					   GUS MAX and Gateway 2000
							 HMI Drivers
					Please gives us Warcraft-patch
					  Reading data from a CD ROM
					Soundcard Reviews in PC World
							  Theme Park
						Windows mixer problem
					  Windows NT drivers for GUS

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: 30 Nov 94 06:15:55 EST
From: Jon Grieve <100102.145@compuserve.com>
Subject: AU Sound file
Message-ID: <941130111554_100102.145_EHK67-3@CompuServe.COM>

With regard to Nick Cook's question 'What format is an AU file?'; To read, play
and convert .AU files under Windows, and to allow Mosaic to download and handle
then correctly, you can get WHAM for Windows, which will read almost all sound
file types, or Cool Waveform Editor which handles even more.  Then in the Mosaic
INI file, set the 'association' for .AU to either of these sound players, so
that once downloaded, the audio file appears in the correct player.  Simple.

Hope this helps,
Jon Grieve

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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 11:07:37 GMT
From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: CD Audio connector

>How do you connect the CD audio cable to the GUS if it (connector) has only 
>three plugs (after cover is removed from connector) which correspond to 
>right, ground, and left.

You just need to cobble something together, or else get a different
cable. Whichever of your 3 wires is ground wants to be connected to
*both* the middle pins on the GUS, so you need to split it. Perhaps
the GUS pins are connected on the board, so connecting to just one
of them would do, but I don't know. It's common for these cables
to have 3 wires at the CD end, but 4 at the GUS.

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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 22:29:44 -0500 (EST)
From: Jason G Johnson <jgjohn01@homer.louisville.edu>
Subject: gus+soundman wave?

I am getting a gus soon and I want to know if the gus and a logitech soundman 
wave can get along in one box. I would like to keep the soundman so I have a 
soundblaster card and gmidi (ok i know the patches suck) with some stubbern 
games. If it matters my smw is set up at port 220 irq 5 for sb and 330 irq2 
for gmidi, anything I should change?

Btw has anyone got strike commander to work with gus 
doing midi(mega-em) and a sound blaster taking the audio??


Thanks,

Jason

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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 11:03:12 GMT
From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: GUS and Adaptec 1542b SCSI controller

>I have an Adaptec 1542B SCSI controller and a Ultrasound.  The 1542B
>is my boot device, and, while the card has strappable I/O addresses,
>the BIOS ROM is hard coded to use address 330.  This conflicts with
>one of the address on the Ultrasound, and causes problems (Sound
>Blaster emulation doesn't work.)

Is this right? Does a BIOS really use an IO address? I though that a
BIOS was likely to occupy a block of high numbered addresses somewhere
bwtween 640k and 1M. Or do I misunderstand - perhaps you mean that
you can move the card away from 330, but then the BIOS refuses to
use it? Perhaps Adaptec can supply a new BIOS ROM to plug in.

Anyway the problem is that 330 is the standard
address for some Roland contraption that you are trying to emulate,
so if you can't shift the SCSI card away from there, then you have
then danger of attempts to access your SCSI devices being intercepted
by the emulation program. Don't know about SBOS, but I thought the docs
for megaem discussed this, and that there was some kind of switch so
that it could attempt to distinguish between the uses of the same
address. There were also dire warnings about danger to the data on
your HD!

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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 17:42:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Hank Leukart <hleukart@shell.portal.com>
Subject: GUS and KQ7 under Win 3.1
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.941129174206.10463B-100000@jobe.shell.portal.com>

	Anyone get KQ7 and the GUS working under Windows?  All the TEST 
hardware music works fine, but it won't play in the actual game.
-Hank

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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 17:54:22 -0500
From: Christian Brideau <brideau@revcan.ca>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V16 #29
Message-ID: <9411291754.aa12380@macdonald.revcan.ca>

Vince, you should REALLY do somthing about those idiots who post the
entire digest again and again and again...  I didn't read it entirely 
because it was getting on my nerves.  And with a 2400 bps modem, you
can understand why.

Chris

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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 94 09:26:29 EDT
From: "Fisher.G" <Fisher.G@as02.bull.oz.au>
Subject: GUS drivers for Windows NT3.5

Hi,
Are there any GUS drivers available for Windows NT3.5 ? If so, how would I 
obtain them ?

Greg
(Melbourne - Victoria - Australia)

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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 11:23:06 GMT
From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: GUS MAX and Gateway 2000

>I am almost sure that I am going to get a Gateway 2000 P4D-66, the 
>regular desktop (that is, non-tower) system.  But before I do, I have two 
>questions:
>1) Will my GUS MAX fit?
>2) Is the double speed CD-ROM it comes with compatible with the GUS MAX?

The P4D-66 claims to have 4 ISA slots (don't know whether 8/16 bit).
The old GUS was a large card - nearly full length - but possibly later
models are smaller. In any case, surely there must be several slots in
there which would accomodate it. Verify with Gateway before you buy.

Given that the CD is already in the computer, it must have it's own
interface card of some sort, or else be connected to a CD interface on
the motherboard. If you are thinking of ditching this
interface and connecting the drive to the GUS-MAX CD interface, then you
had better find out what model of CD it is. But there is *NO BENEFIT*
to doing this other than saving a slot in the machine. The only 
connection you need between a CD drive and the GUS is an audio cable
from the back of the drive to the CD Audio pins on the GUS, and even
this isn't needed unless you intend to play CDs with audio tracks on
them (for example MicroSoft Beethoven etc. are mainly audio tracks,
while Encarta has no audio tracks at all - all its sounds are WAV
files or similar).

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Date: 30 Nov 94 06:15:53 EST
From: Jon Grieve <100102.145@compuserve.com>
Subject: HMI Drivers
Message-ID: <941130111552_100102.145_EHK67-2@CompuServe.COM>

Ok, so I'm probably a little behind the times here.  Am I right in thinking that
we - the humble GUS users - can't update HMI drivers ourselves?  My
understanding is that the various HMI drivers for the various supported sound
cards and 'compiled' into the .386 files, but also somehow compiled into the
games also.  Therefore, it's not possible to just copy around HMI*.386 files
from game-to-game to pick up the working GUS ones.

Is this true?  Are we at the mercy of the games companies to ship updated HMI
drivers sets when/if Gravis, for example, update their code?  There's so many
games coming out that use the HMI sets, and so many that didn't quite get the
Gravis drivers in.  Also, as usual, most demo's just have SB support to save
space.  It'd be nice to just whack in the HMI*.386 file set from a working game,
and provide native GUS support to all these applications.

Just my thoughts.

Jon Grieve

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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 94 23:20:58 MET
From: Broderdue <iqivar@hp1.cbs.dk>
Subject: Please gives us Warcraft-patch

Header says it all... Where is these rumoured AIL 3.0 drivers ??

	\////
	|. .|
	( - )   Broderdue

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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 10:54:01 GMT
From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Reading data from a CD ROM

Wow! 180k of Digest including 7 (unless I lost count) copies of previous
Digests. I think it's a record. Glad I don't subscribe to this on my
dial-up account - can anyone with knowledge of mail headers arrange
that these bounces are lost, rather than re-mailed - perhaps have the
Digest sent out from a different address than the submission address?

Quite a bit lately about reading data direct from CD. Certainly there
is potential to take a sample from a CD and make it into a patch. Not
that making good patches is easy, even if you have a good sample.
The trouble is that is seems only some drives support this. Is there
any evidence of any programs that will read from a SCSI drive - in
particular a Tosh 4101 like I have?

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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 13:07:44 -0500 (EST)
From: "Christopher M. DiPierro" <cdipierr@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: Soundcard Reviews in PC World

I was just wondering if anyone else saw the soundcard reviews in PC 
World's December 1994 issue.  They review the GUS Max, along with the 
AWE32 and a few others.  While the review is perhaps one of the better 
comparisons I've seen done in a magazine to date, I think they brushed 
past some key issues.  

First of all, they seem to use ROM based samples (used on certain cards) 
and disk based RAM designs (like the GUS's) almost interchangably.  This 
doesn't fully show the expandibility of the GUS and other cards based on 
the same design.  

Second, they mentioned briefly the DSP which they say increases the 
card's speed.  However, I think they spent too little time on it.  
Nowhere is it noted that the GUS (and perhaps other cards) use as little 
as 3% CPU time for high quality sound, and that other cards can use much 
more.  Also related to this, the little chart they have of features fails 
to mention which cards support compression (and what types).  Also, 
although unrelated to the DSP, but left off the chart is the maximum RAM 
each card is expandable to.

Finally, although they listed signal-to-noise ratios for all of the 
cards, it would have been nice for them to show the roll-off charts for 
all the boards, not just the Turtle Beach (best in this category) and the 
Toptek (worst in this category).

Well, like I said, the review was overall good, but somewhat lacking in 
my opinion...anyone else care to comment?

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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 17:57:04 +0100
From: STIAN HOELL <STIANH@sofus.hiof.no>
Subject: Theme Park

Anybody got a patch for the GUS to this great game? I can't seem to 
get it to work. I even picked out my GUS here the other day, just to 
listen how it yelled with my old SB 1.5. And it wasn't that bad 
actually. So with the GUS it must be great. It's the DOS/4GW that 
makes it all so comlicated. The machine keeps reseting everytime I 
try to run either SBOS or MEGAEM. I'm going crazy. Please help.

STiAN


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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 94 11:08:07 EST
From: amix@VFL.Paramax.COM
Subject: Windows mixer problem

I think this problem has been discussed before, but I can't
find anyting about it.  When windows starts up, the left
volume is correct, but the right channel is at zero.
No matter how I save the setting in the mixer or edit
ini files or what ever, when windows starts, the right 
volume is all the way down.  What do I do to fix this?

-Andy

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Date: 30 Nov 94 06:15:57 EST
From: Jon Grieve <100102.145@compuserve.com>
Subject: Windows NT drivers for GUS
Message-ID: <941130111557_100102.145_EHK67-4@CompuServe.COM>

Jari Kivela wrote:
>> Once more: there is no Win NT drivers for GUS, and there probably never
>> will be, unless someone is going to make them him/herself.

About a month ago on Compu$erve, a group of NT developers offered to write NT
drivers for Gravis.  I can't remember whether Gravis took them up on their
offer, but I expect they started to discuss via private e-Mail.  Perhaps Gravis
could comment on this.  I expect they're keeping quiet, as no sooner as they
admit "There will be NT drivers", people will start to hastle them for dates and
they'll get just as - if not more - unpopular than when they said they weren't
going to do any at all.  It's all very OS/2, don't you think.

Jon

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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 94 21:06:36 +0100
From: jpdgreve@vub.ac.be (De Greve Jean-Pierre)

Hi ... I'm experiencing trouble with WarCraft from Blizzard Entertainment :
When I choose MegaEm in General Midi & SoundBlaster, I get no
proper sound, and the general midi sounds instruments when they don't
have to be sounded (during gameplay, cymbals, gunshots...).
SBOS works fine, but offcourse GM would be better.
Each of the MDI & DIG files show as first characters 'AIL3MDI' or 'AIL3DIG'.
Substituting the drivers with the miles drivers doesn't work, since the game
uses DOS4GW extender.
A dump of the \WAR\DRIVERS\ directory :

WARCRAFT AD        2,682 11-23-94   4:03a
WARCRAFT OPL       2,682 11-23-94   4:03a
SBPRO    DIG       2,683 11-23-94   4:03a
SBLASTER MDI      14,956 11-23-94   4:03a
ADLIB    MDI      14,906 11-23-94   4:03a
ADLIBG   MDI      16,297 11-23-94   4:03a
PAS      MDI      15,345 11-23-94   4:03a
PASPLUS  MDI      16,378 11-23-94   4:03a
SBPRO1   MDI      15,295 11-23-94   4:03a
SBPRO2   MDI      16,356 11-23-94   4:03a
SBLASTER DIG       2,834 11-23-94   4:03a
SBAWE32  MDI      32,694 11-23-94   4:03a
SB16     DIG       2,756 11-23-94   4:03a
GF166    COM       5,493 11-12-93   6:32p
GF1DIGI  ADV       5,248 08-14-93   6:40a
GF1MIDI  ADV      10,816 08-14-93   6:40a
GF1DIGI  DIG       5,248 08-14-93   6:40a
GF1MIDI  MDI      10,816 08-14-93   6:40a

I hope anyone can help ...

Sincerely,

Jean-Pierre.

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