GUS Daily Digest            Mon, 9 May 94  9:37 PST      Volume 13: Issue   9 

Today's Topics:
						  32 mono, 16 stereo
						 7th Guest, again...
						 Any sort of upgrade?
							 AWE32 et al
					   CDGRAB from XM 4101 B ??
					   GUS Daily Digest V13 #7
					   Help! GUS with BUSYTOWN
						   IDEA FOR NEW DB
						 Mail Server (2 msgs)
						   MegaEm and NOEMS
				  Someone please send me CHARANG.PAT
						  The GUS v. The MAX
				  Video for Windows and the Ultrasnd
					 Warlords II wont work at all
		  Where can I find .AVI files for video for windows?
					   Where to find UPL02.ZIP
					WV1019.EXE!!! (NOT VW1019.EXE)
					  WV1019 : Vid for Win again

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Mon, 09 May 1994 13:11:08 GMT
From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
Subject: 32 mono, 16 stereo

>16 stereo, 32 mono.  If you have the pan pot set to dead center so that 
>output is coming from both sides from the same voice, then it must 
>actually use two voices, limiting you to 16 channels.

This doesn't seem quite right to me. Each of the GUS's 32 voices can
play a mono sample from the RAM, and divide it between right and left
outputs. If I remember, there are 16 panning positions available.
(Is the person above making the point that if you have pan positions 0
through 15, then none of them is dead centre - you want 7 and a half??)
This is fine for MIDI, but if you wanted to play a true stereo WAV
file, or whatever (i.e. different waveforms for left and right), then
it would need two voices, one directed entirely left, and the other
entirely right.

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Date: Sun, 8 May 1994 19:12:29 -0600 (MDT)
From: rkornilo@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Ryan Korniloff)
Subject: 7th Guest, again...

Greetings fellow GUSers.. Last week I posted a message about problems 
with the wrong instruments being played during the 7th Guest in MIDI 
mode. I got a response in which I was able to accomplish what I was told 
I should do, however, the wrong instruments are STILL playing. Some of 
the instruments are different from the ones playing before I attempted to 
fix the problem, however.
This whole situation is rather ridiculous taking into account that if the 
card is following the General MIDI specs, all of the correct instruments 
should be playing(at least that's how I understand it).
Is there any way I could obtain a somewhat official MIDI map of the 
proper instrument set?
Has anyone else been experiencing this problem??

Thanks for all of the help everyone...


		   -- Ryan Korniloff
		   -- rkornilo@nyx10.cs.du.edu

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Date: Sun, 8 May 1994 12:12:18 +0800 (PST)
From: Francis Li <fli@nermal.santarosa.edu>
Subject: Any sort of upgrade?

Is there some sort of upgrade offer from Gravis to send in your GUS for a
GUS MAX?  I am really interested in the Max, but I know that I would have a
hard time selling my Rev. 2.2 card...Come on, Gravis, even CREATIVE LABS
still sends me upgrade offers to me (back when I had my original
SB)...Media Vision thinks I own their PAS+ card (I ALMOST bought one) and
keeps on sending me their catalogues and software upgrades...But I haven't
heard from Gravis since the disks...

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Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 16:36:54 +0930 (CST)
From: Gavin Scarman <SCARMAN@hfrd.dsto.gov.au>
Subject: Re: AWE32 et al

dmcintyr@muselab.ac.runet.edu writes ....
>I've been waiting patiently for a year now to see the GUS take root and become 
>popular.

Oh ye of little patience, the SB took ages to become popular, but then the GUS 
will never compete as a games card - it's far too versatile. But think on this, 
there are probably as many, if not more GUS cards than MT32/LAPC/SCC1. I own a 
MT32 but it still gets limited support for games even though it's been around 
longer than the Adlib. And even the PAS doesn't have full support as many games 
have to be patched judging from the patches posted.

>I'm probably going to have to cave in and get a Sound Canvas.

Don't bother if it's only for games, the SC only is supported as a GM synth and 
the GUS already does this as well for a 1/4 of the cost.

Everyone should remember that the GUS is a versatile card not a SB mono clone 
which is the most supported card by far. Hardly any games support even the SBPRO 
in stereo years on, as for the SB16.....

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Date: Mon, 09 May 1994 16:24:07
From: T.Bolhuis@el.utwente.nl (Thijs Bolhuis)
Subject: CDGRAB from XM 4101 B ??

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Hi Gussers,

Does anoyone know if CDGRAB, CDDARIP or any other direct-audio-track-reader
is working with the new, low cost SCSI Toshiba XM 4101 B CDROM-drive?


Thijs Bolhuis
The Netherlands

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Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 13:09:37 +0200 (METDST)
From: John Peter Jore <JohnPeter.Jore@mrih.no>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V13 #7

On Sat, 7 May -1, GUS Server wrote:

> From: "Fran the Man..." <FCROSSEN@ccvax.ucd.ie>
> Subject: Re: Help with ominous error message!
> 
> >GUS seemed to be working fine alone.  And even seemed to coexist with
> >LAPC-1 and SBPro.  But lately (after I started playing Privateer), I
> >occasionally get the following message (in large unfriendly block letters)
> >when I boot:
> >
> >PARITY ERROR ????
> >SYSTEM HALTED
> 
> This shouldn't have anything to do with the cards.  This message usually


I get the PARITY ERROR, SYSTEM HALTED error message when i warm reboot if
i have started SBOS under OS/2 and sometimes under plain DOS. It only occures
when if i'v done something with the sound card.

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Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 09:55:00 -0400
From: "nhut (n.) nguyen" <nnhut@bnr.ca>
Subject: Help! GUS with BUSYTOWN

Hi:

I bought the CD version of BUSYTOWN, a game for my son, and I am having 
some problems.

Using SBOS I was able to run the game with sounds, but it hangs on me
after a while. Especially, after leaving the firestation, it hangs
every time I tried. My system is a DX2-66 with Award bios and SIS 
chipset. I use address 240, interrupt 7 and DMA channel 1.

Any help/suggestion would be appreciated.

Cheers.

Nhut.

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Date: Mon, 09 May 94 22:55:52 +1030
From: jordan.n@adam.com.au
Subject: IDEA FOR NEW DB

Ok, it's pretty obvious that if the GUS ever dies (and it looks as if it may
do), it is because of a lot of bad press over SB incompatability.  It seems
that software emulation really won't work reliably because programmers seem to
enjoy programming the SB in different (non-standard?) ways, which the software
emulation can't handle (not without a patch or update of the software anyway). 
It also seems apparent that Advanced Gravis could have maybe avoided some of
these problems by whacking on an OPL3, and a seperate DAC for SB emulation. 
Why didn't they do this?  Maybe, 1. They wanted to keep this cost down?  2.
They -really- thought sbos would work, or(and?)  3. It's not possible.  My
point is, If it is possible to create a daughterboard for hardware SB
emulation, maybe it could save the gus, and maybe we could all avoid having to
buy a new soundcard when the gus FINALLY dies...

My questions,   1. Is this possible?
				2. Does the 16bit DB have piggyback slot?
				3. Would it be cost competative?
and lastly,     4. Would Advanced Gravis be interested???

If the answers to questions 1-4 are 'yes', then maybe the GUS can be saved.  If
the answer to question 1 is 'no', then I must look like a real idiot :-)

Just an idea....

-=\_+|-=\_+\-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|
	jordan - jn@adam.com.au - Adelaide, South Australia
_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\_+|-=\

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Date: Sun, 8 May 94 19:16:23 EDT
From: jdimich@ajiant.dnet.dupont.com
Subject: Mail Server

Hi all,

	This might not be 100% relevant in this digest, but here goes.  I've
	 just recently noticed (as I don't use it that much) that the GUS mail
	 server does not allow me to leave it's archive site.  I am (was) a fond
	 user of a techno internet site which has wicked samples, and now I can't
	 access it.  Can someone please give me a couple of mail servers which are
	 general and will let me get files from any FTP site?  I would really 
	 appreciate it.  BTW, I figured since I used these patches with the GUS,
	 it makes the question GUS related! ;)  Thanx in advance..

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Date: Mon, 9 May 94 9:06:13 MDT
From: Brent Thordarson <brent@hpmtlbt.lvld.hp.com>
Subject: Mail Server

Eric,

I retrieved the mail-server files you're after using the following:

  begin
  send submit/UPL02.ZIP
  send submit/gusdly10.zip
  end

Brent Thordarson
brent@hpmtlx.lvld.hp.com

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Date: Sun, 8 May 1994 18:22:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: mikebat@netcom.com (Mike Batchelor)
Subject: Re: MegaEm and NOEMS

Not the GUS Server once wrote...
$  
$  ------------------------------
$  
$  Date: Fri, 6 May 94 15:14:03 EDT
$  From: dmcintyr@muselab.ac.runet.edu
$
$  > No.  MegaEm does not really use EMS, except to detect the presence of a
$  > 386 EMM, or more accurately, a compatible VCPI host.  That is what is
$  > required for it to operate, and a EMS board would not provide that.  Only
$  > QEMM, 386MAX, MSDOS 5.0, 6.0 EMM386 and Netroom are supported at this time.
$  
$  But Mega-Em can run without any EMM driver, can't it?  I thought that's 
$  what the NOEMS switch was all about.

Nope.  You still must load a 386 memory manager, with or without the
memory manager's NOEMS switch.  MegaEm's NOEMS switch tells it your memory
manager is also using the equivalent NOEMS switch, and so to use an
alternative method for installing itself.  The primary method requires
your memory manager to supply EMS and a page frame, and uses standard VCPI
calls.  The alternative method uses clever programming. :)

$  I thought the real problem with protected mode apps was that any app that 
$  takes active control of protected mode will usurp Mega-Em's very passive 
$  and unobtrusive control.

It is passive in the sense that it lets your 386 memory manager running in
protected mode trap I/O port access for it.  Basically, it sets up the
memory manager so that any access to the I/O ports of interest generates a
protected mode exception.  MegaEm is then called by the memory manager to
handle the exception, and it handles it by emulating the SB or GM boards.

Protected mode games wipe out MegaEm's modifications to the memory
manager's tables of I/O permissions and exception handlers. They set up
their own for the duration of the game, and when they exit, they restore
the original tables that MegaEm installed.  This is just how 386s work in
protected mode, with programs passing control of the machine back and
forth (hopefully, with grace! :).


-- 
Mike Batchelor      | UseLinuxUseLinuxUseLinuxUseLinuxUseLinuxUseLinuxUseLinux
mikebat@netcom.com  | xuniLesUxuniLesUxuniLesUxuniLesUxuniLesUxuniLesUxuniLesU
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Plug 'N' Play:  A specification invented by Microsoft and Intel which
enables a computer and its operating system to create hardware conflicts
without user intervention.

No more jumpers to misplace!  The computer will misplace them for you.

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Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 02:12:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: jtang@argon.chem.ucla.edu (James Tang)
Subject: Someone please send me CHARANG.PAT

Could someone please send me the CHARANG.PAT patch file?  Thanks.

james

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Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 13:24:59 GMT
From: Mike Geileskey <GEI0089L@whstud1.uel.ac.uk>
Subject: The GUS v. The MAX

Hi there people!

 ................. Why have Gravis released the MAX so soon?

 Surely if the same manufacturer release too many different sound 
cards, they will not get a 'sound standard'
 
 When the Sound blaster was released, it became the standard, because 
Creative labs did not produce a better sound card immediately after 
it. They waited until it became the standard.

 Look at Creative labs SB's now. Due to the release of the SB-16, 
PAS, etc in a relatively short period of time, there is no real 16-bit 
standard; there are too many different cards for the public to buy. 

 Software companies have just started producing native sound drivers 
for the GUS. By releasing the MAX, ordinary GUS'ers feel a bit 
cheated... Does it mean that software companies will produce 
drivers for the GUS only or the MAX only?
 Personally I can't really see software companies producing 
too many separate sound drivers, they much prefer to produce drivers 
to a 'sound standard'. If they stick to producing GUS drivers, the 
MAX's {expensive} capabilities will not be used.

Perhaps Gravis should have waited a little longer, until full 
recognition and software support was made for the GUS.


see ya later!  -:@)  -Mike!

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Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 13:33:11 GMT
From: Mike Geileskey <GEI0089L@whstud1.uel.ac.uk>
Subject: Video for Windows and the Ultrasnd

Some time ago, I managed to get a copy of Video for windows off the 
internet (usenet news alt.binaries.sounds.utilities), but I can't 
remember the version.
 The thing worked fine with my setup: VLB Cirrus card (displaying 32K 
cols. in windows) and GUS v3.4

 About a couple of months later, I got what I thought was a better 
version: VFW v1.1  This was not the case. Since I upgraded, I am 
unable to run VFW in windows if I am displaying more than 256 
colours (in 32K mode I just get a blue box containing a 'Profiling 
display' message, and the system freezes). In 256 col. mode, the GUS 
sound is also clipped. Why have microsoft made VFW worse?


See ya later!
				-:@)   -Mike!

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Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 08:34:55 -0600 (MDT)
From: re7813ke@meteor.uscolo.edu (Is this ship sinking?)
Subject: Warlords II wont work at all

Hey GUS'ers,

	Anyone get Warlords II to run with any sound?  I tried it with ultramid
and with megaem, and it doesn't seem to operate (have to reboot).  

Kev

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Date: Mon, 9 May 94 10:15:06 EDT
From: redwolf@MIT.EDU
Subject: Where can I find .AVI files for video for windows?

I've looked around using xarchie, but cannot seem to find any
AVI files for video for windows. Can someone please let me know
of some sites that have them?

Thanks

redwolf@athena.mit.edu

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Date: Mon, 9 May 94 09:08:09 +0200
From: f93-maj@nada.kth.se
Subject: Where to find UPL02.ZIP

Hi!

Someone couldn't find upl02.zip upn epas?
well, that's because of stinking UNIX-file system(s) case sensitivity.
 ca
under pub/pc/ultrasound/submit/UPL02.ZIP  (note UPPERCASE in UPL).

hope this helps,

/F.M.J.

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Date: Sun, 8 May 94 17:03:44 -0500
From: terry@cpre1.ee.iastate.edu (Terry B. Smith)
Subject: WV1019.EXE!!! (NOT VW1019.EXE)

>Date: Fri, 6 May 94 19:19:29 CDT
>From: Jim English <jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu>
>Subject: VFW 1.1a update...wrong again!
>
>first someone says wfw11a.exe, WRONG nope ain't there doesn't show up
>on archie and not on ftp.microsoft.com softlib/mslfiles...
>next someone calls this and says it's vw1019.exe, WRONG nope ain't there
>no archie listing and isn't on ftp.microsoft.com. 
>Ok people, what or where is it?  Why can we never seem to find the filename?
>Has anyone actually _gotten_ this file from an ftp site?
>Why not put it in submit?
>-jim

According to the SLLIST.TXT file, WV1019.EXE is the "Video for Windows
Run-Time 1.1a File".  Yes, I downloaded it, but I'm at work now, so I will
have to wait to try it.  8<

HTH,
Terry

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Date: Sun, 8 May 1994 20:26:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: gt0074b@prism.gatech.edu (P.Chen)
Subject: WV1019 : Vid for Win again

>>>The filename is ftp.microsoft.com:softlib/mslfiles/wfw11a.exe (PKSFX), sized
>>
>>  The correct name of the file is VW1019.exe.  WFW11a.exe does not
 
>From: Jim English <jenglish@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu>
>Subject: VFW 1.1a update...wrong again!
>
>first someone says wfw11a.exe, WRONG nope ain't there doesn't show up
>on archie and not on ftp.microsoft.com softlib/mslfiles...
>next someone calls this and says it's vw1019.exe, WRONG nope ain't there

 
Whoops... I meant WV1019.exe.   Be patient and search around.
It's not like people on here are getting paid to give out information.
Anyway, Microshaft ain't too bright when it comes to sensible 8.3 names.

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