GUS Daily Digest            Fri, 29 Apr 94  9:37 PST     Volume 12: Issue  29 

Today's Topics:
					   Attention GUS Musicians!
							   DOOM 1.3
					  ftpeeing archive.orst.edu
					   GUS Daily Digest V12 #28
						  GUSTALKR (2 msgs)
					Hired Guns/3d sound/opinions?
			 MEGAEM / EMUSET hoses disk access? (2 msgs)
				  MEGEAM / EMUSET hoses disk access?
						   Musicware Piano
						New game...coming soon
					   No sound with Doom v1.3
							  Ravenloft
					   The GUS MAX for $179 !!!
						v. 3.11 install disks
							  Vol-12 26

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Fri, 29 Apr 94 02:01:49 EST
From: pcady@celestat.com
Subject: Attention GUS Musicians!

Greetings all!

It would appear from the relative daily postings to the
General and Music Digests that the primary use of the
GUS is for Gaming.

I'm asking subscribers to the Musician Digest to stand
and and be heard! So, if you do not subscribe to the
Musician Digest and use your GUS for music composition
and/or performance please post a brief summary of what
you use and how you use it to: gus-music@mail.orst.edu

Thanks!

Paul Cady
pcady@celestat.com

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Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 10:52:24 -0800 (PDT)
From: ebingham@mhs.mendocino.k12.ca.us (Eli Bingham)
Subject: Re: DOOM 1.3

First of all, if you have the DOOM 1.3 beta and don't know what's going 
on with it, you have a pir8d version (I know such a pir8 version 
exists). Fortunetely for id and unfortunetely for pir8s everwhere, DOOM 
1.3 has had it's GUS code completely removed for rewriting, and won't be 
available until the official release. Had you a legitimate copy (or even 
if you'd bothered to read the DOOM Mini-FAQ), you would know this.

-- 
==========================================================================
Eli Bingham     ebingham@tcsgi.mhs.mendocino.k12.ca.us     ebingha@ctp.org

 "Only in a police state is the job of a policeman easy."  -Orson Welles

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Date: Thu, 28 Apr 94 13:58:47 CDT
From: cardona@rwasic23.aud.alcatel.com (Gabe Cardona)
Subject: ftpeeing archive.orst.edu

>Does anyone else have problems trying to "get" files from the 
>archive.orst.edu ftp site?  I notice that downloading files just seems to 
>hang, (as opposed to the epas, which sends files nearly instanteously).  
>This hangup on orst happens all the time, so I don't think it was my 
>server having a bad day as I try but fail to download files.  If anyone 
>knows any settings, or solutions, please help. Thanks.


I thought that the link was hung also, but it is acually VERY SLOW...,
sometimes around 0.27Kbytes/sec, and at this speed it takes 1 hour to
get a 1 meg file.....


Gabe Cardona

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Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 20:32:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Phat H Tran <ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V12 #28

> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 18:17:56 +0000 (GMT)
> From: olivier martinelli <martin_o@epita.fr>
> Subject: can't install 3.11 bonus disks!!
> 
> Hi there...
> 
>  I just tried the 3.11 install' disks.
> Everything's allright for the drivers, patchs, etc..  but...
> I couldn't install the 'bonus disks':
>    I get a message telling my UltraSound can't be detected !!!!

This is because the install.exe for the bonus disk can't
detect an ultrasnd environment variable.  Make sure that all
the usual GUS things are in your autoexec.bat (ultrasnd set
to you GUS configuration, ultradir set to your /ultrasnd directory,
and your /ultrasnd directory is part of your path) before 
trying to install the bonus software.

> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 94 17:18:15 MEX
> From: MKRITZLE@IBERO.UIA.MX
> Subject: DMA and Windows
> 
>   I've configured my GUS outside of Windows and it works fine. Even IN windows
> it had no problem, until now. I bought a Roland Keyboard and tried to hook it
> up, but USS8 didn't recognize it. I checked with SETGUS using DOS and all the

Why should USS8 recognize your keyboard?  It has no need for one as it's
a sound recording utility, not a MIDI sequencer.

> parameters were working fine. Then I checked it using Windows(via MSDOS promtp)
> and it hangs the computer when I check the DMA, no matter what DMA I choose.

You cannot run setgus in Windows!  It's a DOS-only util.  It won't
be able to access the GUS correctly since the Windows driver would
have grabbed the GUS' I/O ports.

> I've already changed all the other DMA's I have, but the GUS won't accept any
> DMA under windows, although it does make sound. Only thing that doesn't work is

If it's making sound in Windows, then DMA must be working.  
You simply can't run the setgus diagnostics from within Windows.

> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 22:03:20 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." <pchienjr@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
> Subject: ftpeeing archive.orst.edu
> 
> Does anyone else have problems trying to "get" files from the 
> archive.orst.edu ftp site?  I notice that downloading files just seems to 
> hang, (as opposed to the epas, which sends files nearly instanteously).  
> This hangup on orst happens all the time, so I don't think it was my 
> server having a bad day as I try but fail to download files.  If anyone 
> knows any settings, or solutions, please help. Thanks.

You might have a bad link between your machine and orst.  Try
/mirror/ultrasound on garbo.uwasa.fi instead.  It's a more complete
mirror than orst, and is a major European archive and so tends to
be more reliably connected.

> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 17:19:03 -0600 (CDT)
> From: Orcun Kolcu <orcun@umr.edu>
> Subject: GUS started making noise in Windows
> 
> Hi,
> A couple of days ago, I booted into Windows to find strange whirrs,
> clicks, buzzes etc. come form the right speaker. I don't recall changing
> anything and the card sounds quite OK otherwise. The noises start as soon
> as the Windows driver is initialized and they are appearantly caused by
> the electronics (screen scroll, hard drive etc.). Just like my old SB
> really but everything was perfect with GUS uptill now. SBOS, Megaem etc behave
> properly, the problem is clearly Windows related.

Load up the mixer and make sure that your mic, line, and cd audio inputs
are disabled if you're not using them. 

> Also, is ULTRAMID useless without the AIL drivers ? How do I find out if a
> game needs ULTRAMID rather than mega-em ?

You use Mega-Em when a game supports Roland or General MIDI.
You don't need to even think about Ultramid unless you manually
insert GUS AIL or Sierra real-mode drivers into a game that 
originally lacked GUS support.  Games that require Ultramid from 
the box will usually load it up themselves.

> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 10:32:55 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "George A. Montemayor" <gmontem@eis.calstate.edu>
> Subject: Need info on GUS MAX
> 
> I read on the c.s.i.p.s (is this correct?) newsgroup a message that says 
> that the GUS MAX offers true wavetable. True wavetable? How about the 
> regular GUS? I thought the MAX was basically an upgraded GUS.

If anything, the GUS, the Max, the Sound Canvas, the AWE32, etc. are
"sample playback" devices as opposed to "true wavetable".  "True
wavetable" was in vogue at a time when memory was scarce and the 
samples used were no more than monocycles of waveforms a few dozen
bytes long.

> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 10:22:04 GMT+1
> From: "F. Viktor" <VIKTOR@evt.bme.hu>
> Subject: No sound with DOOM v1.3
> 
> Hi gussers,
> 
> I have DOOM v1.3 upgrade (2nd level betatest-version) and I can't get 
> any sound out of my GUS. (It is just a doom.exe file) Everything
> works with 1.2 but not with 1.3. Any ideas ? (Suggestions?)

I don't think you're supposed to be in possession of the DOOM 1.3
beta.  Wait for the final release.

Phat.

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Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 09:49:13 MET-1
From: Paal Andreassen <PAALAND3@kihdata.kih.no>
Subject: Re: GUSTALKR

>Date: Wed, 27 Apr 94 14:56:52 CDT
>From: cardona@rwasic23.aud.alcatel.com (Gabe Cardona)
>Subject: GUSTALKR
>
>The GUSTALKR utility that I asked about in yesterday's digest is
>available
>via ftp from archive.orst.edu under
>pub/packages/gravis/util/dos/gustalkr.zip.
>It should also be on the wuarchive.wustl.edu site under the corres-
>ponding directory.
>
>Try it out and let me know if it works (it locks up my machine) and
>if so, with
>what settings for SBOS.
>
>Thanks.....
>
>Gabe Cardona

I'm running gustalker on my machine without any problems. And I don't
use any switches with SBOS. I have configured the gus at address 220h,
DMA 7, IRQ 11, SB-DMA 1 and SB-IRQ 5. My machine is a 486 DLC-40 from
Cyrix. I have had no problems with the GUS (exctept on some older
games supporting only ADLIB, seems SBOS isn't quite adlib compatible).




Paal Andreassen <paaland3@kihdata.kih.no>
Kongsberg College of Engineering
Department of Computer Science

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Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 10:15:38 +0100 (BST)
From: Toby <T.W.Nichols@hertfordshire.ac.uk>
Subject: GUSTALKR

I had a copy of Gustalkr ages ago. It used Sbos to emulate the SB DAC

Speech was good and it was relatively inteligent.

Then all of a sudden it just stopped working. Don't know why. I have 
upgraded to a lter version of SBOS and Ultrinit etc but at the time I 
thought it was very odd. Maybe it was the newer SBOS. I have also changed 
my IRQ from 11 to 5. Anyway now what happens is I tell it to say 
something and it hangs after the first syllable :(

I would suggest trying an early SBOS. The version I had was on the 2.54 
DISK set - sorry don't know the verion.

If you have any success let me know.

Cheers,

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Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 17:33:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: "M. Wells" <mww2g@kelvin.seas.virginia.edu>
Subject: Hired Guns/3d sound/opinions?

I saw "Hired Guns" in the software store today with the sticker "3d Holographic
Ultrasound sound" on it.  How does it sound?  Does anyone have this game?
How is the sound?  How is the game itself?  Worth gettin to play with?

Mike

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Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 08:11:10 +0200 (GMT+0200)
From: Pieter Immelman <pi@itu2.sun.ac.za>
Subject: Re: MEGAEM / EMUSET hoses disk access?

Marco Coletti wrote:
| I am having a problem running MEGAEM and EMUSET.  I've tried the 
| following two configurations and each time EMUSET finishes loading I 
| can't access the hard drive (I'm forced to power off and on):
[chomp]
| following other hardware: COM 1 & 2, LPT 1, SCSI controller (IRQ 11, I/O
| 330), and a Diamond  Speedstar PRO 1 MB (IRQ 2).  The SCSI controller is
| used for a CDROM;  the HD controller is IDE.
[chomp]

Since the Roland uses port 330, which is the same as your SCSI
controller, your machine goes to the happy hunting grounds.  To get
past this, add the "-p" option to MEGAEM or just add it to your
MEGAEM.OPT (or whatever that file is called... slipped my mind now).
All this is documented in the manuals, so just browse through there
again.

Hope this helps,
-- pi

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Date: Fri, 29 Apr 94 07:58:57 -0400
From: "Marco Coletti" <p00923@psilink.com>
Subject: MEGAEM / EMUSET hoses disk access?

>I don't know if this is related, but the Second Reality demo hangs the
>PC (cold boot) right after the rotating cube is displayed.  Other apps
>that support the GUS in native mode such as Epic Pinball, Doom, and
>Return to Zork run flawlessly.

Responding to myself, again,...
Just saw that 2nd Reality can't be installed in a path > 20 chars.
I moved it up a few directory levels and it works great!

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Date: Thu, 28 Apr 94 16:40:56 -0400
From: "Marco Coletti" <p00923@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: MEGEAM / EMUSET hoses disk access?

>From: "Marco Coletti" <p00923@psilink.com>
>Subject: MEGAEM / EMUSET hoses disk access?
>
>I am having a problem running MEGAEM and EMUSET.  I've tried the 
>following two configurations and each time EMUSET finishes loading I 
>can't access the hard drive (I'm forced to power off and on):

If I may talk to myself here,... "RTF MEGA-EM.DOC".  Apparently, there
is a section in this file that  mentions problems w/Adaptec SCSI
controllers (I/O 330h).  This also  applies to my SCSI controller.  I
moved a jumper so the SCSI card now uses I/O 234h and this problem has
gone away.

Thanks in advance to those that will probably respond to the original
message.

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Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 12:40 EST
From: 155722937@UCIS.VILL.EDU (LIFE IS A GREAT ADVENTURE)
Subject: Musicware Piano

	this software is really cool. It is much better than Miracle, if 
you really want to learn.
	It comes with a midi conector, hooks up no problem to the gus.
The program itself is very user friendly, and easy to use. You can use any MIDI
keyboard (as far as I can tell).
	For the GUS, you need to load in the instrument patch, if you want 
playback through the MIDI, when being shown keys etc. Otherwise, it comes out
the speakers of the line out jack.
	They also have sent me 2 upgrades, at no cost. The only glitch, is
every once in a while a note is missed from the keyboard. This happens on a
regular sound blaster also, using a different keyboard. So, this isn't a GUS 
problem. The occurs very infrequently,as of the last update.
	NOTE: This is a Windows program. So you can download files, and 
play the keyboard together.
	Musicware 
	8654 154th Avenue NE
	Redmond, WA 98052
	Tel (206)-881-9797
	Fax (206)-881-9664
	1-800-99-PIANO (1-800-99-74266)
	The software is $100, and they now have 2 more units to add-on.
						Harald van der Kam
					155722937@ucis.vill.edu
					FurySound - IRC #GUS

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Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 11:10:13 -0400
From: Eugene Philip Mahendranath <eugster@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: New game...coming soon

Well, I was cruising through wuarchive the other day and found this game demo
called Theme Park (or something like that).  I decided to check it out because
it sounded cool.  I went to the sound setup screen and what did I find?  There
was a choice for the GUS (and the crowd goes--yeah).  Too bad the demo only
had SB (notice that if you flip the letters around you get BS...how ironic)
sound.  But the readme file did say that the rest of the soundcards will be
implemented in the real version.  By the way, the choice for GUS said "Gravis
Ultrasound FM".  Isn't that an oxymoron or something, seeing as how the GUS is
wavetable?  Anyways, the game is made by BullFrog (of Syndicate fame).  It's
basically a Sim-Amusement Park game.  The graphics look pretty good and it seems
to be a fun game.  Why did I write this in the first place?  Who knows...I guess
I was just bored.  Later.

				--Eugene
 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Say, has anyone seen a brain tumor around here?  I've seemed to misplace mine.
 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Thu, 28 Apr 94 19:54:43 BST
From: charltjr <charltjr@helios.aston.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: No sound with Doom v1.3

On yesterday's digest VIKTOR@evt.bme.hu wrote:

>Hi gussers,
>
>I have DOOM v1.3 upgrade (2nd level betatest-version) and I can't get 
>any sound out of my GUS. (It is just a doom.exe file) Everything
>works with 1.2 but not with 1.3. Any ideas ? (Suggestions?)
>
>Viktor

I don't mean to be rude but are you an Id beta tester or did you get
this v1.3 from an FTP site?

The thing is, is you got it from an FTP site then it's a pirated version.
Id are spitting mad about it, apparently, and the next official version
of Doom will be 1.4 - There will *not* be an Id release numbered 1.3

This may go some way to explaining your sound problems!

Hope I was of help and I'm not trying to tell a beta-tester that he's
testing a pirate game!

Johnny Milk.

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Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 10:12:54 -0500 (CDT)
From: cannon@netcom.com (Chris Cannon)
Subject: Ravenloft

 > Subject: games: BK, AD2, Raven
 >   Ravenloft uses the standard 32-bit Miles drivers (thank you SSI!)
 > and has excellent SVGA graphics.  Unfortuantely, it locks up on
 > my system after a few minutes of play.  All these problems only
 > happen with sound on.  I was suspicious of my IRQ and DMAs, but
 > no conflicts, and since other programs like SimCity2000 run fine,
 > I am suspicious of the program.  Are there any updated Miles drivers?
 > Any older ones?
 
   I had more trouble w/ SimCity2k than Ravenloft.  I just used my 
   multiboot option w/ EMM386 NOEMS, and it worked fine.  If I left
   the NOEMS option off, it would crash.  I had to get rid of EMM386
   altogether to get SC2k to run.
 
 

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Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 18:23:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Etienne Provencher <provench@cs.unc.edu>
Subject: The GUS MAX for $179 !!!

Computer Express expects to have the card in about two weeks, or so :)

The pre-shipping price for the card is $179.00
The number is 1-800-228-7449.
After they start shipping it the price goes up to $219.00
I'm on the list :)

Etienne
UNC-CH Computer Science Dept.

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Date: Thu, 28 Apr 94 16:59:52 HST
From: ross@math.hawaii.edu
Subject: v. 3.11 install disks

Oliver Martinelli wrote:
> 
> Hi there...
> 
>  I just tried the 3.11 install' disks.
> Everything's allright for the drivers, patchs, etc..  but...
> I couldn't install the 'bonus disks':
>    I get a message telling my UltraSound can't be detected !!!!
> 
> P.S.:  I'got a 3.4 Gus and deleted the old ULTRASND directory before
>       installing the new one.
>       Each time I try, a new directory is created on drive C: containing
>       INSTALLIT.EXE .
>      ( just to let you know , if it can help ...)

I had a similar problem with the 3.11 bonus disks that came with my new GUS;
the actual error was different (DOS exception, or some such), but the
program crashed, leaving a junk directory with INSTALLIT.EXE just like
Martinelli.  Fortunately, it seems to have installed all relevant
software before crashing.

- David (ross@math.hawaii.edu)

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Date: Fri, 29 Apr 94 7:35:29 CDT
From: Daniel A Nielsen <dnielsen@ria-emh2.army.mil>
Subject: Vol-12 26

Since I haven't been able to get a subscription to this group my only 
source is to down load the digests daily.  When I tried to get Vol 12 -26
I only got 512 bytes, just a tidbit of subjects it covered.  And wouldn't
you know it, it was the day after I asked how to get rid of the noise I
now get when I play B's 5th on my 1 meg Ver3.4 GUS after installing 
GUS0041 upgrade?

Could someone help me with either?

thanks
dan

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