Ultrasound Daily Digest     Thu,  3 Dec 92       Volume 1 : Issue  37 

Today's Topics:
					  Got my gus - and some q's
								 GTS
						gtssam3 & gtssam3_fix
							GUS & Windows
							GUS = PARANOIA
						   GUS manual error
			  Lucasfilm and support for GUS (lack of...)
							midi-connector
							 New GUS user
				   Rumours of new SBOS development?
						   Support concerns
					Ultrasound Daily Digest V1 #36
						Ultrasound under OS/2
				What's so special 'bout Media Player?

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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 92 14:19:24 -0500
From: adhir@cygnus.umd.edu
Message-Id: <9212021919.AA03149@cygnus.umd.edu>
Subject: Got my gus - and some q's
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

Got it.  And I am *very* impressed.  I knew it would sound good...but this
good?  I didn't expect it.  It's my very first soundcard and I am very
impressed.

Everything worked first time.  No problems whatsoever.  Stuck it in (disbaled
the joystick port first...already have one I like), ran install, and a little
while later I got the setup program voice talking through my stereo system.
I was so happy!  I am using DMA 7 for it...220h, IRQ5 (for SB), IRQ 11 (for
GUS)...ummm, I think that's it.  I have a 486/50eisa with an eisa IDE cont-
roller and a 8-bit SCSI controller (for an old SCSI hd).  Also a v.32bis
faxmodem, and a multi I/O card.  No problems. 

I tried all the demos, and a bunch of games.  Star Control II sounds great,
Alone in the dark is incredible (run SBOS no options), Dungeon Master
works fine, and a few others.

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The games I COULDN'T get to work right were the following:

GODS - freezes with SBOS unless -o3 is used...and then I get no sound at all.

Jetfighter II - music works fine with SBOS (and no options), but no
digitized jet sounds (if there are supposed to be any...).  -o2 crashes the
machine.

Stunts - works, but the screeching sounds and the crashing sounds don't come
out of the GUS, they come out of the speaker (??).  The car sound is cool
though,as is the music.

Stunt Island - just like GODS - crashes unless -o3 is used, and then I
get no sound.

Any help with any of these games?

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I also tried some recording.  Without the 16-bit recording module, I
should be able to record in 8-bit stereo 44.1khz, right?  When I record
from my CD player, it doesn't seem to work in stereo - how can I
get it to do stereo?  I only get sound out of one speaker while recording...
even though during playback both speakers sound, I suspect it is not
being recorded in stereo.  What am I doing wrong?

Also, USS8 throws the screen out of sync and then freezes.  I rebooted from
a disk with nothing loaded and it worked fine, but I had no mouse.  So I
loaded my Logitech driver, and when I reran USS8, my screen went whacko
again...so I think there might be a problem with USS8 and Logitech mouse
drivers.  Comments?

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FINALLY :  my board says revision 2.2 on it - what revision do the rest of 
you have?  It looks different than the one on the box.  The RAM chips
are in a different place.

BTW - what's the use of upping to 1 meg?





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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 92 16:52:04 EST
From: timkwan@Athena.MIT.EDU
Message-Id: <9212022152.AA27315@carbonara>
Subject: GTS
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

GTS -looks- good but it doesn't sound very good at all.  The piano sounds
are very coarse and harsh as are most of the other samples.  None of the
songs (provided with the package) sound good.  As the song plays, there
are are cracks, bleeps, and other static-sounding noises.  Is there a
solution to this?  Also, I do not like the fade-in fade-out display when
you run GTS and exit it - very slow even on my 386/40.

-Tim

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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1992 11:52:05 -0500
From: Maki Ishizaki <mishizak@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Message-Id: <92Dec2.133238est.246756-1@descartes.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: gtssam3 & gtssam3_fix
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

> In the submit directory on epas there are two files that look suspisciously
> alike.  What exactly are the differences between gtssam3.zip and gtssam3_fix.zip
> ?  Does the latter simply REPLACE the former, or is there something that needs
> to be done to combine the two?  

The following four files are upgrades (version 0.91) to the GTS:

gts_091.txt
gts_091.zip
gtsfiles_fix.txt
gtssam3_fix.zip

I've uploaded these to epas after I found these at wuarchive.
Originally they didn't have the postfix '_fix' but I put that
there just in case anyone wanted to see what the old version
looked like.

The only difference between gtssam3.zip and gtssam3_fix.zip
is that one of the directories is named different. I don't
think they've changed any of the sounds itself.

gts_091.zip is a replacement to gtsmain.zip, so don't bother
with gtsmain.zip if you don't want to see what it looked like
before.


--                                                    
* Maki Ishizaki                           *            
* University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada *             ___  /
* mishizak@descartes.uwaterloo.ca         *            /o -| -

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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 92 08:52:19 MST
From: hutch@ilmen.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Message-Id: <9212021552.AA00258@ilmen.lanl.gov>
Subject: GUS & Windows
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

 
>> The one thing I have _not_ been able to get to work is my Windows setup.
>> My documentation for setting up the GUS under Windows is very sketchy
>> and I understand there is more detailed info on this available now.
>> 
>> At any rate, when I execute Windows, I get ERROR 3 alert boxes as
>> Windows tries to load each of the GUS .PAT files.  My autoexec.bat
>> file has the ULTRADIR=C:\ULTRASND variable set as well as ULTRINIT so
>> I doubt that is the problem.


>I sounds to me like you've copied a file called "ultrawin.cfg" to your
>windows directory, or your windows/system directory.  This file should be in yo>ur Ultrasnd directory
>only.  Give that a try.
>
>Let me know if it works.
>
>Chris Yuzik


Nope. Even without the ultrawin.cfg file in my windows\system directory,
I still get all those frustrating ERROR 3 alerts on running Windows. All
other GUS features work OK. Any other ideas, Chris?  (or anybody else?)

Thanks,

-Hutch-

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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 92 16:48:52 EST
From: "Philippe Mathieu (Hiv91)" <mathieu@info.polymtl.ca>
Message-Id: <199212022147.AA11404@von-neumann.info.polymtl.ca>
Subject: GUS = PARANOIA
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

Hi everybody....
I dont know if i begin to be "paranoiac", but......
Where is Chris Yuzik????? Where is gravis?????
Where is Chuck Yeager for Ultrasound????
What developper wait to product or announce GUS products???
Sierra and Lucasart said they do not plan to support GUS ????
Please..... what's going on???????
Everybody seem to dont pay attention to that, but......
If Gravis are really interresting in is product, they must show it!

I'm really happy with my GUS, and I recommended to anybody....
But sometime you want more assurance......

Just my two cents (canadian...) of "braining".....

Martin

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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 92 00:00:06 -0600
From: captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin)
Message-Id: <9212030600.AA27122@pooh.cc.utexas.edu>
Subject: GUS manual error
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

 
Has anyone noticed that in the GUS manual on pg.45 there is a paragraph
warning you not to use a mono jack in the line out connector, but in the
picture directly underneath that there is depicted a MONO phono jack with
a stereo mini-phono jack?  Tell us one thing, and show us another, eh?
Seems to be a trend...just ask Telemart when your GUS will arrive...  1/2  ;-)

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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 92 20:57:19 EET
From: Lasse Hero <larry@mdata.fi>
Message-Id: <199212021857.AA03730@mdata.fi>
Subject: Lucasfilm and support for GUS (lack of...)
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

I asked Lucasfilm Games about Ultrasound support, here's the answer:

- - - - 

At this time, nope. I've listened to many cards, all with the same
machine, same speakers, just different cards. And with so many new 
developers coming out with new cards it's difficult to find ones that
will stay any sort of distance. When some of the dust settles, we may
look into it. Just not at this time. 
 
And on a side note, when I tested the cards, Gravis is actually pretty
bland compared to most. And it's speech truly sucks...
Still 99% of it is the amp and speakers that you hook it through...
 
\\illiam

- - - - 

Damn! I don't have the card yet, but it CAN'T be that lousy, can it..?

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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 92 13:16:39 MET
From: hodgen@informatik.uni-koblenz.de
Message-Id: <m0mwt1P-0001fwC@uniko.uni-koblenz.de>
Subject: midi-connector
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>



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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 92 13:26:45 MET
From: hodgen@informatik.uni-koblenz.de
Message-Id: <m0mwtBB-0001fzC@uniko.uni-koblenz.de>
Subject: New GUS user
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

Sorry about the last two messages. I sent them off without reading far enough.

Two days ago I got my GUS. After 2 hours trying to get the setup to work I
realised it just didn't like my Adaptec 1542 controller. I then installed
it in my second computer and used the setup programm there to install the
card and change the autoexec.bat. All in all very annoying. But it was worth
it. The card sounds great and I've got it working with my SB 2.0. Last night
I started looking for MIDI files. If I find anything interesting I'll send
it on.

cul8r.
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1992 15:20:39 -0500
From: Mark Rosteck <g1marker@cdf.toronto.edu>
Message-Id: <92Dec2.152815est.31047@marvin.cdf.toronto.edu>
Subject: Rumours of new SBOS development?
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

   A few days ago I heard an unofficial rumour regarding SBOS development.
Apparently someone had called Gravis tech support inquiring about SBOS; he
was told that Gravis was (obviously) less than satisfied with the
performance of SBOS, and they had just hired a *professional* programming
team from California to completely re-write the TSR.
   Has anyone else heard mention of this rumour?  Or, better yet, can anyone
from Gravis comment on it?


Cheers,

-Mark-

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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 92 7:15:05 PST
From: Andy Young at Nosferatu U. <andy@hpsmo100.rose.hp.com>
Message-Id: <9212021515.AA00828@hpsmo100.rose.hp.com>
Subject: Support concerns
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

I too am starting to be more than a little worried about support for the
GUS. Two of my favorite game companies, LucasArts and Sierra, have stated
that they have no plans to support the GUS. Of course, this isn't to say
that they never will; but if they do, it'll be a while, and by then, maybe
we'll see the GUS Pro :-).

I'm not trying to talk anybody out of the GUS, just trying to face what may
be a difficult situation... A great product with very little support. My
principle use for the GUS will be gameplay and the SBOS software sounds like
a real pain in the butt (TSRs in general have always worried me, and with
the 'pushing the hardware envelope' entertainment software we are seeing
now, every lower-640K chunk of memory is *so* important...). The $130 SB Pro
Basic at Egghead is starting to look a whole lot better.


Dissappointed and more than a little indecisive,

.Andy.

andy@hpsmo100.rose.hp.com   Hewlett Packard - Support Materials Operation
TSN: AndyY, Box 24491           8050 Foothills Blvd, Roseville, CA 95678

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Date: 2 Dec 92 12:36:24 +0100
From: BJORNHK@dhhalden.no
Message-Id: <MAILQUEUE-101.921202123624.416@sofus.dhhalden.no>
Subject: Ultrasound Daily Digest V1 #36
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

> Is anyone else getting nervous about support for the GUS.  I've received
> mail from both Sierra and LucasArts that say they will not be supporting
> the GUS.  LucasArts didn't rule out future support, but said not any time
> soon.

Who did you talk to? Was it a guy who actually were responsible for
or positively knew something about future developments, or was it
just a freelance SysOp?

> Whether you play their games or not, these are two major game
> developers
> and I think it's important that they are showing little if any interest in
> the GUS.  Even Gravis doesn't seem to be excited about their card - I've
> never seen an ad for the GUS and would have never even heard about it if
> not for c.s.i.p.soundcard newsgroup.

Well, the reason you have seen no ad, is that Gravis havn't made any
yet, supposedly in wait for a major launch of a simplified version
with a lower chip count, thus faster and less expensive to
manufacture.

However, this reluctance for support was indeed disturbing
news...

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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1992 14:41:57 -0800
From: Derek Suzuki <drkszk@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Message-Id: <199212022241.AA02625@bigbang.berkeley.edu>
Subject: Ultrasound under OS/2
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

	Has anyone been having problems with the GUS in OS/2 DOS boxes?

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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 92 22:08:13 EST
From: Kevin Dangoor <tazzzzz@eecs.umich.edu>
Message-Id: <199212030308.AA15467@quip.eecs.umich.edu>
Subject: What's so special 'bout Media Player?
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

Howdy!

	Does anyone here know what it is that Media Player does to load patches
that other programs don't do? I assume it's probably a fairly simple call, but
it doesn't help if I don't know what call it is :)

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University of Michigan           / 
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