Ultrasound Daily Digest     Sat Jun 12 00:36     Volume 4: Issue  12  

Today's Topics:
						 .MID's in windows..
					 2.06L installation problems
						Are GUS mail edited?? 
							   DMP 2.51
					GUS 2.06 and Flight Simulator
			   Incorrect Patch Version and Space Debris
					Macintosh Microphone: i did it
							Patch creating
						   PP2 AND GUS0032
						Received The New Disks
					Solution to your Install Probs
						Star Control II noise
						   The 1-meg debate
					  ULTRASOUND DAILY DIGEST V
			   Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #11  (3 msgs)
				 WAV won't play with 2.06 drivers!?!?

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 16:19:21 PDT
From: "JAMES HARGRAVE" <D1140167@BCIT.BC.CA>
Subject: .MID's in windows..
Message-ID: <9306112322.AA17998@orca.es.com>

Not really a question I'd like to post to the digest, but I'm not sure who
to contact.  I'm having a problem getting .MID's to play in windows, I get the
little 'tada' when windows opens and stuff but I can't get win-jammer (or any
other .MID player) to make any sounds.  I'm no windows expert (in fact far from
it) .. so if you have any ideas could you please mail me... thanks for your
time..
							  -James

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1993 08:58:58 +0200
From: Afzal Ballim <afzal@divsun.unige.ch>
Subject: 2.06L installation problems
Message-ID: <1938*/S=afzal/OU=divsun/O=unige/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/@MHS>

For those who have the problem with 2.06L (from epas) that
it doesn't recognise disks. I had the same problem and was
told that install has a bug which can be cured by labelling
the disks with a NULL label, i.e., empty.

-Afzal

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1993 12:21:00 +0000 
From: "Timmy (Y.T.) Chan" <timchan@bnr.ca>
Subject: Are GUS mail edited?? 
Message-ID: <"11783 Fri Jun 11 12:21:47 1993"@bnr.ca> 

I sent an e-mail to this users group on June 10 and it showed up
with the latter half of my mail taken out on June 11.  Is this
by intent (purposely edited out)
or by accident (half my message got lost during the transfer).

If by intent, may I ask why??  I merely mentioned another vendor's
soundcard (Turtle Beach) and made a suggestion for how much of
a memory upgrade would be nice to have on the GUS.  I would like
very much to know why the edit police would have trouble with
my message.

Regards,
Tim.

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1993 12:51:16 +0200 (GMT+0200)
From: Pieter Immelman <pi@itu2.sun.ac.za>
Subject: Re: DMP 2.51
Message-ID: <9306111051.AA25873@itu2.sun.ac.za>

9269Z%FRESTP11.BITNET@FRMOP11.CNUSC.FR wrote:
: Does DMP 2.51 supports the GUS?  It's not written anywhere in the .txt file
: though I know it supports the Aria based soundcards...

No, DMP doesn't support the GUS yet.  Otto wrote in the 2.52 docs that
his GUS is still on its way.  As soon as he receives it, he'll start
coding on the GUS support.

-- pi

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 10:27:14 BST
From: ahewett@mround.bt.co.uk (Andy Hewett)
Subject: GUS 2.06 and Flight Simulator
Message-ID: <9306110927.AA16714@essex.mround.bt.co.uk>

Has anyone got sound out of Flight Sim 4 with the 2.06 release
yet ?

I can get SOME sounds out of FS4, spattered with unexplained
pops and whooshes but recognisable. The problem is that the
sound just stops after about six seconds !

Could it be that the GUS has played out a buffer and not had
it refilled ?

Ideas, anyone ?

Andy Hewett

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 06:19:29 EDT
From: timkwan@Athena.MIT.EDU
Subject: Incorrect Patch Version and Space Debris
Message-ID: <9306111019.AA09118@vongole>

John Smith's response to my earlier posting:
 
>>       1.  spa.mod has some problems.  I have another copy of
>>           Space Debris which I downloaded from saffron.inset.com
>>           and that one plays perfectly whereas the spa.mod that
>
>Send me the one you got.  What was wrong with the one we supplied?
 
Somewhere in the middle of spa.mod, the lead instrument (the 
one that carries the melody, whatever that instrument is) 
disappears and returns sporadically and it's not just because 
the piece is meant to be that way either.  Those of you with 
keen musical sense and sharp ears would detect that something 
is amiss.  I have uploaded space_de.lzh to epas in the 
/pub/pc/ultrasound/submit directory.  Download it, unpack it, 
then use DOS's comp.exe to compare spa.mod with space_de.mod 
and you'll see that they are different at a number of points.  
space_de.mod is the more 'complete' one.
 
>>       2.  When I go into Windows 3.1, I get a dialog box with the
>>           caption (title) of "Error" and a message that says,
>>           "Invalid Patch Version" with an "OK" button.  I click on
>
>Sounds like you have an old patch sitting someplace in your directory.
>Do a DEL *.PAT in your MIDI directory and reinstall the patchs.
										
No, I started with a clean slate.  I deleted the entire 
\ultrasnd directory including its subdirectories and files. 
Michael Daniel <mdani@wilbur.mbark.swin.oz.au>, in his recent 
posting said:
 
		I am also having the message about the incorrect patch 
		version when I load windows, and the message appears 
		three times before program manager appears...
 
So what is causing the error?  John Smith, any other ideas?
 
-Tim

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1993 11:48:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion)
Subject: Macintosh Microphone: i did it
Message-ID: <9306111548.AA10708@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>

To use a mac microphone the correct way, use the circuit found on epas in the
file micro.arj.

Any questions? email me.

Ciao,
-- 
Francois Dion
	'  _   _   _ 
 CISM (_) (_)  _) FM       Montreal , Canada       Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA
	  (_)  / . _)             10000 Watts          Telephone no: (514) 343-7511
_______________________________________________________________________________
Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-...

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 13:45:40 +0100
From: zccaj19@ucl.ac.uk (Mr Stefan Magdalinski)
Subject: Re: Patch creating
Message-ID: <9306111245.AA74776@link-1.ts.bcc.ac.uk>

In V4#11, Gavin writes:
>...and is there any windows software that will record 
>through the 'line in' properly? And I haven't been able to 
sample my MT32 yet, has anyone else?
I think you might have a problem here. Noisemaster, Goldwave, et al
work fine for me. Have you made sure you've selected the Line Enabled
option in the control panel (drivers section) for the Ultrasound
Waveform device? Just a suggestion...
P.S. No disks in London yet... 
Stefan Magdalinski
zccaj19@ucl.ac.uk
"And the weather today? Surprise, surprise it's too bloody hot again."

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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 93 09:19:46 
From: john.smith@gravis.com
Subject: PP2 AND GUS0032
Message-ID: <9306100919.A0698wk@gravis.com>

Seems I was mistaken about PP2.  THe problems weren't do to the -O1 switch but
to EMM386.  Haven't tried it with other memory managers, but if you don't
remove EMM386 the game will hang as soon as you get to the quick sand (just
past the ship).  You still need the -O1 switch.  I've updated GUS0032.ZIP today
(06/10/93) to include the -O1 in SBOS.CFG and also made a note in the README
file about PP2.

Have fun.

John

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 00:17:12 -0700
From: thomasp@csufres.CSUFresno.EDU (Thomas Pearson)
Subject: Received The New Disks
Message-ID: <9306110717.AA28790@csufres.CSUFresno.EDU>

I received my new 2.06 disks in the mail June 7th and they are doing
just fine.  They installed with no problemo, the two new programs for
Windows and all.

The midi patches all seem to be in tune on all the test songs too.
All but one midi file named "biker" or something like that listed
in one of the midi demo .bat files.  I seem to recall a name like
"bikes.mid", I can't recall right now.

Anyway I would like to inform the others who have not received there
new GUS disks that they are being shipped out, I got mine didn't I??


Bye...

/****************************************************************************\
* Thomas Pearson                     |Internet:                              *
* California State University, Fresno|thomasp@csufres.CSUFresno.EDU          *
\****************************************************************************/

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 11:14:56 +0300
From: Shmuel Gazit <keeper@ccsg.tau.ac.il>
Subject: Solution to your Install Probs
Message-ID: <9306110814.AA27644@ccsg.tau.ac.il>

To the guy who was having troubles with disk #2, and others that
got 2.06L for now -UNLABEL your disks ! to do that , u could use
dos' LABEL command, or just format the disk with a blank label..
The Install prog checks for a specific label, but doesn't mind
if there is no label at all..
 I'm going to be in US from the 14th of July, for about a month - 
can anybody tell me where will be EXPO's like the one Brad
was talking about being held in NY in two weeks ?

thanks !
/Shmulik.

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 7:51:10 PDT
From: jtang@chem.ucla.edu (James Tang)
Subject: Star Control II noise
Message-ID: <9306111451.AA09697@argon.chem.ucla.edu>

Is there a known bug in Star Control II with the sound?  Whenever I am
in the manual selection process and I move the highlighted bar between
the options, I'll heard a low "boink" and accompany by lots of static
radio noise like sound.  What I want to know if that if those static
radio noise is suppose to be there or if I should find a patch
somethere to fix that.  By the way, I am using GUS with 1 megs of
memory.

James

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1993 11:00:33 -0500
From: ken@austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach IBM)
Subject: The 1-meg debate
Message-ID: <9306111600.AA21669@daedalus.austin.ibm.com>

dantonio@magick.tay2.dec.com writes:

>> It's part of Gravis' marketing philosophy.  You pay for the minimum
>> functionality, a bare-bones GUS.  You can then customize the card to
>> fit your specific needs by adding daughterboards and extra DRAM. 

>Ha! This is why they are going to release the UltraSound MAXX which is has
>1 MB, and the SCSI and 16-bit recording built in. Looks like the philosophy
>might be changing...There is NO reason not to sell the card with 1MB
>on-board. The folks who make video cards figured this out years ago...


I can sort of agree with you about 1 meg, but I don't agree that
*every* GUS sold have 16-bit recording, SCSI, and every other
option. Why? Cost for one. Look at Creative Labs. They now have
the SB-16. Why even make the SB and SB-Pro (8-bit recording, other
things missing) anymore? Simple - not everyone wants to spend
an extra $150 (over the price of a basic SB). Not everyone *needs*
16-bit recording. Not everyone *needs* SCSI. Heck, why not just
sell the SB-16 with Waveblaster and whatever other bells and
whistles? Why not make it the only form the card is available in?
COST! Heck, SB-16 is already about $250 (and it's still cruddy
FM!). I think it's right to offer different packages for different
people, because some only need the GUS with what it comes with
(and for $126, it's a "smokin' deal").

But I'll chime in and say everyone will eventually need 1 meg RAM! ;-)

On a sort of related note, I was in one of the mall computer stores
the other day (Electronics Boutique?), and they were selling the
GUS. But they had two very different packages. One was the familiar
Gravis "white and purple" box, and the other was black and red and
had a photo of the card on the front. Seems that the store has their
own packaging, but it's the same contents. Interesting. The price
was $10.00 different (I think the Gravis-packaged GUS was actually
cheaper, too - that's dumb).

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Date: Thu, 10 Jun 93 12:20:38 
From: john.smith@gravis.com
Subject: ULTRASOUND DAILY DIGEST V
Message-ID: <9306101220.A0706wk@gravis.com>

----------------------------

TO: mike@batpad.org (mike batchelor)

>I got the 6 disks from epas, though, and can't get it installed.  It
>won't recognize disk #2 - it asks me over and over again for it.  Disk
>2 contains ultrasnd.002 and disk.id, a plain text file that claims
>that this is disk #2.  What's wrong?

Some people seem to be having problems installing the UltraSound V2.06L
disks.  Here are some possible fixes.

1) When you unzip the 6 disks (GUS0025.ZIP thru GUS0030.ZIP) onto floppy
   disks, make sure your floppy do NOT have a disk label OR are labeled
   ULTRASND_1, ULTRASND_2, ULTRASND_3, ULTRASND_4, ULTRASND_5 and
   ULTRASND_6.

2) You will notice a file on each disk called DISK.ID. Here are the
   contents of each of the 6 DISK.ID files (one/disk).

UltraSound
2.06L
UltraSound Software Disk 1

UltraSound
2.06L
UltraSound Software Disk 2

UltraSound
2.06L
UltraSound Software Disk 3

UltraSound
2.06L
UltraSound Software Disk 4

UltraSound
2.06L
UltraSound Software Disk 5

UltraSound
2.06L
UltraSound Software Disk 6


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TO: Shadow Of Fear <markus@Info.UMoncton.ca>

>        Also, can anyone upload GRAVAPP.ZIP (can't remember the exact
>filename) on epas?  It's the Gravis node application file.

It's called GRAV-APP.ZIP and you can find it on our node in Halifax, or
you can freq it from me at 1:153/978.  The BBS in halifax is "Max
Megabit's" 902-454-8351.

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Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1993 22:30:28 +0501 (EDT)
From: Gunnar Swanson <gunnar@gibbs.oit.unc.edu>

>        Thank you Gravis and especially John for taking all the heat I
>had to dish out with out too much cursing.

It has its moments and rewards <grin>

 -----------------------------

All for me today.  Time to go eay my apple. TTUL

John
---
 ~ QMPro 1.02 05-8925 ~ People say I'm indecisive.  Am I?  I don't know.

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1993 10:27:52 -0400
From: Bill Norton <wbn@merit.edu>
Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #11 
Message-ID: <9306111427.AA08096@merit.edu>

I tried to unzip wcharts.zip from the archives today and failed.  Has
this happened to anyone else:


 Volume in drive C has no label
 Volume Serial Number is 1802-3E4F
 Directory of C:\ULTRASND\NET\WCHARTS

.            <DIR>     06-11-93  10:07a
..           <DIR>     06-11-93  10:07a
WCHARTS  ZIP    610832 06-11-93  10:14a
		3 file(s)     610832 bytes
				   287424512 bytes free

C:\ULTRASND\NET\WCHARTS>pkunzip wcharts.zip

PKUNZIP (R)    FAST!    Extract Utility    Version 1.1    03-15-90
Copr. 1989-1990 PKWARE Inc. All Rights Reserved. PKUNZIP/h for help
PKUNZIP Reg. U.S. Pat. and Tm. Off.

Searching ZIP: WCHARTS.ZIP
PKUNZIP: Warning! I don't know how to handle: WCHARTS.EXE
PKUNZIP: Warning! I don't know how to handle: VOTING.FRM
PKUNZIP: Warning! I don't know how to handle: FILE_ID.DIZ

PKUNZIP: No file(s) found.

C:\ULTRASND\NET\WCHARTS>

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 14:21:36 EDT
From: Phat H Tran <ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #11
Message-ID: <9306111821.AA21807@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>

> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1993 14:06:39 -0700 (PDT)
> From: jde@ciaran.ucr.edu (Jeff Ellis)
> Subject: epas v2.06L not working
> Message-ID: <9306102106.AA15701@ciaran>
> 
> >From: mike@batpad.org (mike batchelor)
> >I got the 6 disks from epas, though, and can't get it installed.  It
> >won't recognize disk #2 - it asks me over and over again for it.  Disk
> >2 contains ultrasnd.002 and disk.id, a plain text file that claims
> >that this is disk #2.  What's wrong?
> 
> I also have seen this problem.  I thought it might have been the way I moved
> them from the Sun to the 3.5" disks to try at home.

The disks will only be recognized if they are unlabeled or labeled
according to a certain scheme (which I have forgotten).  So remove
any labels from your disks and try to reinstall them.

> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1993 13:24:00 +0000 
> From: "Timmy (Y.T.) Chan" <timchan@bnr.ca>
> Subject: GUS RAM upgrade beyond 1Meg 
> Message-ID: <"13398 Thu Jun 10 13:25:21 1993"@bnr.ca> 
> 
> This is question aimed at the people who work at GUS.  I figured
> a lot of others might be interested, so I've posted the question here
> rather than direct e-mail.
> 
> Are there any plans to release a  board that supports over 1 Meg
> RAM??  (Don't matter to me whether it be a daughter board or a
> brand new 'GUS-Pro' board.)  It seems 1Meg is sorely insufficient
> to support GM. I heard samples had to be dropped to support the
> 128 instruments of GM - from 44.1 samples/sec to around 20 samples/sec.
>

GM has 128 melodic instruments and 64 percussives, but they do not have
to all fit into 1 Meg at the same time.  The GUS' entire collection of
GM patches is over 5 Megs in size, but only the instruments needed by
a MIDI piece are loaded into the card's RAM.
 
> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1993 10:27:38 -0500
> From: ken@austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach IBM)
> Subject: Need advice on new motherboard
> Message-ID: <9306101527.AA23874@daedalus.austin.ibm.com>
> 
> Hey GUS people,
> 
> Well, as some of you have read, I'm still having some weird things
> happen with MIDI on my GUS. So I'm considering getting a new
> motherboard to try and remedy the problem.
>

Before you get a new motherboard, do something just to humour me.
Remove your multi-I/O card and test your GUS again.  Doing that
solved *all* of my problems with the new SBOSes and with running
GUS software under 386Max.  (The problems with my multi-I/O card
aren't just GUS-related.  386Max itself would blow chunks if I try
to access my floppies, for example.  I'm forced to use emm386 as my
mem manager, but I need 386Max to compile with MSC7 outside of
Windows.)

But without my multi-I/O card, I'm mouseless (I checked and the 
problems had nothing to do with my mouse driver, BTW) and printerless. 
The funny thing is even if I disable everything on the multi-I/O card
and stick it back into my machine, my SBOS and 386Max problems
resurface.  I've tried two other cards and they weren't any different.
Right now, I'm looking for separate com and parallel ports.

Phat.

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 16:23:26 CDT
From: andrew@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Andrew Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #11
Message-ID: <9306112123.AA08277@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu>

Just a quick response to the 3d audio demo. . . .don't worry just yet if
you listened to it and wasn't impressed - I wasn't impressed either, but
of course I make the real dsp based systems :).  Regardless, the 3d
effect will be dramatically increased when graphics are added to the sound;
the brain will fill in alot of the gaps in the sound quality to help it match
the visual.  So I'm waiting till a better demo comes out before I start
seriously thrashing the GUS 3D :).

ps:  if anyone wants a pretty simple paper on 3d audio, just send me some
	 email.  The paper is about 3d audio in general, and a DSP based system
	 we developed.  Specify ascii or postript. . . . 

-andrew

----
Andrew Wheeler
Applied Research Laboratories
University of Texas at Austin
andrew@mars.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 9:54:46 PDT
From: roberts@brahms.amd.com (Dave Roberts)
Subject: WAV won't play with 2.06 drivers!?!?
Message-ID: <9306111654.AA05965@angelo.amd.com>

I had a really interesting thing happen last night.  I just got the
2.06 disks in the mail and installed them.  Everything went fine, more
or less.  I had a bunch of sharing violations while doing the Windows
install.  I figured the install was trying to delete some stuff and
couldn't do it.  I found the old version of the driver still installed
along with the new version.  I removed the old version using the
driver applett.  Everything seems to work fine.  MIDI works.
``TA-DA'' plays when I start Windows, etc.  Is there anything else I
should look for that might not have gotten removed?

Now, the interesting part.  I used the little sound converter programs
to convert a .SND file to a .WAV file and tried to play it with any of
the Windows players (recorder, media player, etc.).  None of them
would do it.  Recorder would load the .WAV but wouldn't enable the
play button.  Media player would barf saying that there wasn't a
driver installed capable of playing a WAV file of that format.  What
does that mean?  Has anybody else used the sound converter?  Is it
producing .WAV files in a different format than normal Windows .WAV
files.  All the .WAV files that came with Windows seem to work fine.

Any help you can give would be appreciated.  Oh, while I'm asking, is
there a list of exactly what new files should be where and what old
files should NOT be where?  I mean, is there a resource where I can
manually go through and make sure that everything got removed?

BTW: good job, Gravis!  I had resisted grabbing the new patch sets off
epas for the longest time.  I didn't realize how much I was missing!
WOW!  Tocatta.mid sounds amazingly better than it used to.  And it
sounded amazing to begin with.

Dave Roberts
david.roberts@amd.com

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