GUS Daily Digest            Thu, 5 Jan 95  9:37 PST      Volume 18: Issue   5 

Today's Topics:
                           ...Poor GUS....
                              7th guest
                Anyone else having problems with Hell?
                       Audio CD volume control
                           Bad dma compare
                             Beta Tester.
    Does anyone have Myst working *WELL* with 5.47 windows driver
                      Gravis 3.59 disks (3 msgs)
                        GUS Daily Digest 18#4
                   GUS Daily Digest V17 #25 -Reply
                   GUS Daily Digest V18 #4 (3 msgs)
                         GUS MAX vs. GUS + DB
                            GUS NT Drivers
                 GUS software on Cover CD of PC Zone
                           GUS v3.59 Label
                             Magic Carpet
                MAXBOS works with reg. GUS & DOS4GW...
                           Midi box source
                                 Myst
                           Myst and GUS...
                        Poor GUS... not to me.
                              Questions
                              subscribe
                    System Shock CD sound solution
                      The missing files in epas
                                 WC3
                         Windows 3.48 drivers

Standard Info:
- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 09:19:59 +0100 (MET)
From: "Carlo 'GP' Ferrari" <carlo@varano.ing.unico.it>
Subject: Re: ...Poor GUS....

Hey, man...
looks like you really wanted to start a flame war... =)
If you read soundcards usenet groups, there're plenty of messages titled
"AWE32 vs. GUS" or similar.. but there're also many, many, many messages
titled "AWE32: crappy noisy sound".
Well.. I should rate you to read those messages... ;-)
Anyway.. I do own a GUS and a Sound Galaxy equipped with the Roland SCD-15
daughterboard, and I've installed hundreds of soundcards (mostly CL
cards), and I can say that the AWE32 is not that beast that is meant to be.
It's not a bad card at all, but it almost costs twice a GUS, and I
think that the difference isn't worth the price; it sounds in a different
way than the GUS, but I wouldn't say that it sounds better (this opinion
is related to MIDI files): besides it has the same shitty mixer than the
SB16, and that gives that noisy output that people is reporting in the news.
But you know... sounds comes tru' the hears to the brain, and everything
you hear is filtered by your tastes.. it's then possible that the AWE32
sounds better than a GUS to your taste.
I just report you this: a friend of mine got an AWE... when he heard my
GUS playing midi files, he immediately sold his card and bought a GUS MAX.
And... about the piano patches... I think that these are the nicest pianos
I've ever heard: even better than Roland's ones... I don't like at all Gus'
original Reeds and OD/Dist Guitar patches, but you know, tastes are tastes.
;-)

Season greetings

Carlo Ferrari
carlo@varano.ing.unico.it

Informatics Tech 
Hardware & Software consultant/installer
Universita' di Como - Italy

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 23:15:50 -0800 (PST)
From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." <pchienjr@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: 7th guest

>The 7th Guest does not support the GUS but according to the documentation
>which I have read from cover to cover, will work through SBOS with
>appropriate patches.  Trouble is, I can't seem to find on of the *.ADV
>files which they (Virgin Games) says comes with Ultramid.

What disk set do you have?  It should be at least on disk set v3.53 and 
later, perhaps sooner.  You can get the latest disk set v3.59 on 
archive.epas.utoronto.ca.  I think there's also a t7gfix.zip mirrored in 
wuarchive.wustl.edu for the individual .adv files.

Make sure to set your ultramid without the -c option; you get a closer 
representation of the CD music.  Also lower the music volume with the -m 
option or it will drown out the speech.  You may need to edit your 
groovie.ini file to point T7G to your .adv files.-Peter

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 23:20:06 +0000 ()
From: "Eric M. Busalacchi " <emb@herman.tiac.net>
Subject: Anyone else having problems with Hell?
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.91.950104230425.461C-100000@herman.tiac.net>

Hi, I just bought my UltraSound MAX so I am fairly new to this 
digest.  At any rate, I just purchased the game Hell from Take 2 
software, and I am having some problems.  (I talked to Take 2's technical 
support, and of course, they were useless...)  All of the sound in the 
game (music and speech) has a clicking and poping sound mixed in.  It's 
pretty rough.  The game does have native GUS support, so it has nothing 
to do with any emulation.  At first I thought it had something to do with 
my CD-ROM setup, because I was probing and not using a definate DMA.  I 
changed that, and it still doesn't work.  Everything is set to the 
default, except the GUS IRQ is 7 instead of 11.  I am using the Sony 
CDU33A CD-ROM drive, set to DMA 3, and IRQ 11.  I  have tried many 
different combinations, and nothing seems to help.  Any help is greatly 
apreciated!  

Thanks in advance!

--
Eric M. Busalacchi
emb@herman.tiac.net

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 95 14:11:37 MST
From: rmwalker@nyx.cs.du.edu (rod walker)
Subject: Audio CD volume control

Firstly a happy new year to all readers of the digest.
 
Secondly a problem I'm having as a new CD-ROM owner.  My CD-ROM player is a 
MITSUMI FX-001D and the audio-out lead, which normally connects to the 
interface card supplied with the drive, is not compatible with the CD 
audio in connector (JP7) on the GUS.  However, I have solved that small 
problem by re-terminating the cable to match the GUS - left, ground, ground,
right.
 
I did this because I thought that I would then be able to control the output 
volume of an audio CD in software (using Gravis' Sound Station or CDdb - 
the latter is a UK shareware program).  However, despite being able to 
control the volume of played-back .WAV and .MID files using these programs 
I cannot control the volume of played back audio CDs using them.  I still 
have to use the volume controls on the external speakers - which is a bit 
of a pain in the proverbial!
 
I know that there have been some posts in the past on using various CD drives 
with the GUS but I cannot find anything in them (or the FAQ) on this
particular 
problem. Note that I am not using the GUS to control the drive - it is not a
MAX
nor do I have the daughter board.  I am using the very latest drivers (3.47 I 
believe or was it 5.47 - no matter they are the latest available) together
with 
the latest disk set.
 
Hope that this does not cover old, familiar ground but I would appreciate any
advice.  An answer on the digest might help others who have a similar problem
but direct e-mail would be OK.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Rod Walker (rmwalker@nyx.cs.du.edu) (Yes I am a Brit and this is a US e-mail
address - work that out - no I'm not resident in the US!)

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Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 23:55:10 +1100 (EDT)
From: Stuart Gough <s904858@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU>
Subject: Bad dma compare

There have been a few people indicating that they have been getting the bad
dma
compare (read) mesg on diagnostics.  I have also received this with the 3.7
rev
normal gus.  This occurs in my brothers 486dx266, but the card functions fine
in
my 386dx40.  I haven't yet tried my old 2.2 gus in the 486 but I suspect
similar will happen.  It is possibly something to do with the motherboard not
the gus.

Can anyone shed any light on the subject???

Ta

Stuart Gough

Melbourne, Australia

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 95 11:20 PST
From: pmalcolm@wimsey.com
Subject: Beta Tester.

Beta Testers Wanted for:
Advanced Gravis Computer Technology Ltd.
#101-3750 North Fraser Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada, V5J 5E9
In USA: 1790 Midway Lane, Bellingham, WA   98226
      
Phone (604) 431-5020 ext 1039
Fax (604) 431-5155
BBS  (604) 431-5927 V32bis
Compuserve: 74464,30
InterNET EMail: sandy.cameron@gravis.com

Beta Test Application

If you are interested in taking part in a beta test of a revolutionary new PC 
joystick
product, you may fill out the questionnaire that follows and return it to us 
by January 6th,
1994, to be eligible for the first round of test units.  We are looking for 
all levels of 
computer skills from novice to advanced.  An effective method of contact 
ability is critical
for our coordination of product fixes and improvements.  You must have the 
means to 
periodically receive software upgrades via an electronic mail system.  If you 
think that you
would be able to spend some time testing this new joystick product with your 
favorite game 
software, then we would like to consider you for this exciting new joystick 
experience.

Personal Information
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Date

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Name

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Address

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City

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State

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Zip

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Phone

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Fax

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Modem

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Compuserve ID

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Internet address

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Other method of contact

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How many hours per week would you be able to spend testing this new joystick

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Are you employed or associated with the computer industry?  If so, how?


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On a scale of 1 to 5 rate your level of expertise (1=novice 5=advanced)

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Are you currently beta testing any products? If so, what?

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List any previous beta test experiences

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List 3-5 games that you are prepared to test with theis new joystick

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System Information
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Brand Name

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Motherboard

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CPU

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Speed

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Memory

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Operating System (DOS version)

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Video Card

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Mouse

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Mouse software/version

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Sound Card

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Game Card brand/model

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Keyboard Brand

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Motherboard ROM BIOS brand/version


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Sandy Cameron
Project Coordinator
Advanced Gravis Computer Technology Ltd.
sandy.cameron@gravis.com

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 13:30:03 +0500
From: asnyder@artorg.hmc.psu.edu (Alan J. Snyder)
Subject: Re: Does anyone have Myst working *WELL* with 5.47 windows driver

I had similar problems with Maxis' Klik & Play.  I had to reduce my playback
buffer size to 1024 (was 4096) and my problems went away.  In my case, you
could surmise from the sound that the software was loading up part of a long
buffer and then playing the whole buffer.

Alan

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 19:37:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Harry C Pulley <hpulley@uoguelph.ca>
Subject: Re: Gravis 3.59 disks

The ULTRASND_# trick didn't work for me this time.  I don't know why.  
Anyways, I found that no label at all (run label, type enter and enter 
yes when it asks if you want to delete the existing label) works fine.

Harry

<:-{}   hpulley@uoguelph.ca       |This message released|It takes all kinds,
 \      Harry C. Pulley, IV       |to the PUBLIC DOMAIN.|and to each his own.
 ---------------------------------+---------------------|This thought in mind,
Ultra-Violence with Ultrasound    |     Ultraverse      |I walk alone.

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Date: Thu, 5 Jan 95 08:26:34 GMT
From: dwj@kid01pml.icl.co.uk (Dave Johnson)
Subject: Re: Gravis 3.59 disks

Don Eller <don.eller@medtronic.com> wrote:

>I downloaded, and attempted to install the latest version 3.59 of Gravis
>Ultrasound install disk.  Unfortunately, I can't get past the "Please put
disk
>2" prompt.  What gives Gravis, I've tried the following with no success.
Rest deleted

John Dudley <jd@mfltd.co.uk> replies:

>You have to have your disk labeled as follows:  ULTRASND_n where n is the
disk
>number.

I know the above solution has worked with previous installation disks, but it
didn't
work with the latest (at least for me).

However, I've just found this message on Epas:

>These are the labels for each of the GUS 359 floppies (don't include
>the quotes in the label):
>
>gus359a =>  "GUS_1"
>gus359b =>  "GUS_2"
>gus359c =>  "GUS_3"
>gus359d =>  "GUS_4"
>gus359e =>  "GUS_5"
>gus359f =>  "GUS_6"

Beats me why the new disks have to be different - but let's hope this solves
the problem.

Dave.

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Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 14:01:03
From: "LESNIOROWSKI PAWEL (IZ III)" <LESNIOROWSKI@CI-1.CI.PWR.WROC.PL>
Subject: Re: Gravis 3.59 disks

The label ULTRASND_x (1 < x < 6) does NOT help !!!
What to do ?

Cyb

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Date: Thu, 05 Jan 1995 09:32:12 +0500
From: iclnl!pvh@relay.NL.net (Pieter van Horssen)
Subject: GUS Daily Digest 18#4

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>From: Odd Kenneth Oden <odd_oden@spirea.gih.no>
>Subject: So it didn't need NMI, huh?

>Well, hello and happy new year everybody. I just wanted to say hi to whate=
ver
>person who said that NMI wasn't necessary with the new maxsbos.
>Now, when I heard about that new SB-emulator, I got very excited. It was
>supposed to sound a lot better than SBOS because it utilized the whole 512=
Kb (or
>1Mb as in my case) memory of the GUS and that Codec chip of the max to pro=
duce
>wonderful AWE32-like sound.
>AND - it didn't, as I earlier mentioned, NEED NMI! Which was very good new=
s to
>me since I have a PCI mainboard without Non Maskeable Interrupts. (Which,
>again, stops me from using SBOS and my MIDI-keyboard in windows
>because these requires NON MASKEABLE INTERRUPTS!)
> etc.

Odd, it strikes me that you are barking to the wrong tree. In the first pla=
ce should every
PC be upward compatible. I happen to be in Computers myself. If the PCI tec=
hnology
is such that by introducing NMI was by definition disabled, it seems to me =
that the
manufacturer of your new toy forgot to implement NMI.
PCI has to do with the way the bus is working and NMI is handling interrupt=
s and
not related to PCI.
So do not bark against Gravis or, indeed, all s/w vendors who are using NMI=
  Bark
to your PC manufacturer.

Sorry, but thats how I feel; I hope it works out for you.

Nice Gussing, Pieter J.van Horssen (pvh@iclnl.icl.nl)

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Date: Wed, 04 Jan 1995 18:53:11 -0500
From: DMCATEER@LoyalistC.ON.CA
Subject: GUS Daily Digest V17 #25 -Reply

A fellow Gusser writes.....

>I'm getting a little tired of hearing from all of the 486/25 and
33 users about how they hate new games coming out that run slow on
their computers.  If you think a game is good but needs a good
computer, say so.
It doesn't mean the game sucks, it just means some people may have to
wait to play it.  
If no one programs a game for good computers nobody will buy a good
home computer.  

Sorry..but if games are programmed to operate well only on Pentiums
then they can kiss most of their supporters and profits away.
Us "poor common folk" with 8 MB'd 486dx's might not be running out to
buy Pentiums for a while. I'll be damnned if I have to "wait" to play
a game.
Sorry for the rant.

Dave Mc.

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 23:16:13 +0200
From: sniiran@freenet.hut.fi (Samuli Niiranen)
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V18 #4

>From: Odd Kenneth Oden <odd_oden@spirea.gih.no>
>Subject: So it didn't need NMI, huh?
>
>Well, hello and happy new year everybody. I just wanted to say hi to whatever
>person who said that NMI wasn't necessary with the new maxsbos. 

   Well, I'm the "idiot" who posted that the new sbosmax doesn't 
   need NMI. AND IT DOESN'T!!!!! You just have to run loader with /C
   and "NMI disabled"-messages. 

>Now, when I heard about that new SB-emulator, I got very excited. It was 
>supposed to sound a lot better than SBOS because it utilized the whole 512Kb
(or
>1Mb as in my case) memory of the GUS and that Codec chip of the max to
produce
>wonderful AWE32-like sound. 

    The quality is great. IMHO.

>But no. It was maxsbos I had run. And that brings me to my point: Who was
that
>person who said, in an earier letter to the digest, "It doesn't require NMI".
>I would like to come to your home, stuff your monitor up your a**, and force
>you to eat your GUS, raw.

    You should think why someone would post a message about a feature
    which doesn't exist before !?! At least I wouldn't...

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 23:07:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Sky Woo <swoo@rahul.net>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V18 #4

> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 12:45:35 +0500
> From: nobody@Kodak.COM (Richard Schreiber)
> Subject: Does anyone have Myst working *WELL* with 5.47 windows driver
> 
> I was happier with my GUS under Windows before the 3.56/3.57 upgrade!
> 
> Half the sounds in Myst are just stupid pops or buzzes now.  Some of
> the sounds work sometimes and not others.  It was pretty disappointing
> to move to the newest Windows driver and have the sound quality in Myst
> *worsen*.
> 
> Has anyone gotten Myst working well with the new driver?
> I'm tempted to go back to my original windows driver (which came with
> my GUS).
        Myst works great for me.  In fact the 5.47 upgrade improved the
sound for me.  I used to get this buzzing click at the end of sound
effects with the 5.45 drivers.  With the 5.47 drivers, the sound is crisp
and very solid.  Although if you want to go back to the 5.45 drivers, I
don't think you'll suffer much.  Just make sure you copy over the right
files so that the version drivers and the mixer don't disagree.  Although
unlikely, maybe you have the sound buffers set to a bad value for Myst.

> Date: Tue, 03 Jan 95 21:48:00 PST
> From: Ingles D <cpadai@msmail.lancs.ac.uk>
> Subject: Gravis Ultrasound disks ver 3.57
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've just installed the ver 3.57 disks on my machine and am using them with 
> a Ultrasound 256KB
> in a 486DX33 8MB machine.
> 
> I notice now when the sound card is accessed under windows, a small click 
> appears before the desired sound. It happens even with the Windows startup 
> and shutdown sounds.
> 
> Also, I now can no longer use mod4win v2.12 in 44KHz 16bit mode (ok in 22KHz

> 16bit though) which used to work under the version 2 drivers which I decided

> to replace with the 3.57 drivers.
Using Mod4Win to play mods is wasting GUS.  Mod4Win mixes the MOD 
and treats your GUS like a Sound Blaster.  Mod4Win also does intensive 
CPU mixing which is a total waste of the GUS' capabilities.  Also, 
Mod4Win takes up system memory.  The bigger your MOD, the less memory 
you'll have for your other Windows apps.  I try to avoid playing MODs in 
Windows, but when I do, I use the Windows Midas MCI which hooks right 
into Media Player.  So in effect, you can play MODs and S3Ms from Media 
Player or any MCI compliant device.  It isn't entirely accurate, the 
midas player, and S3Ms sometimes crash but the MOD support seems quite 
stable.  At least on my system it's stable.  Most importantly, it uses 
the hardware functions of the GUS which takes the load off the CPU for 
other tasks and loads the MOD/S3M onto the GUS' DRAM thus freeing 
Windows' memory for other tasks.  Of course, if you registered Mod4Win at 
that outrageous price, than I guess your stuck with it.

> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 17:51:31 WET-DST
> From: PAROLINI@eig.unige.ch
> Subject: Poor GUS...
> 
> Hello everybody,
>   I got my GUS since 1 year. At the begining, I though it was the
> best card, with the best sound and the best prise. I made many
> Mods, midi and now, many XM. I got many good time with my GUS. But now, 
> since I heard, by a friend of mine, the last Creative Labs's card : The
AWE32, 
> I changed my mind. The AWE32 sounds quality sounds realy better than our
GUS.
> I think that all the acoustics GUS MIDI instruments sounds like shit.
> For example, the piano. Do you have heard the piano ? My good ! It's 
> horrible. It sounds like the adlib. ;)
You mention that price was a criteria for your purchase of a 
GUS.  Now you want to get an AWE32?  Obviously your criteria has changed 
since you believe that even though you pay a lot more, the AWE32 is worth 
it.  Well not everyone can fork out the dough like you can.  And even if 
you were to purchase an AWE32, there are things which factor in which can 
hinder an AWE32 from performing better than a GUS.
Your saying the piano on the AWE32 from the 11MB of compressed 
samples into 1MB is better than the GUS' uncompressed.  Possibly, because 
of the EMU DSP that Creative has on the card.  But obviously I guess 
you've never tried custom patches.  I don't use Gravis' default piano.  
Having swappable patches is the entire idea behind keeping the sound 
patches on the hard drive.  Also, the patch does not sound like an 
Adlib.  Of course this is subjective, but playing the midi files that 
came with the GUS does not yield FM performance with Gravis' piano patch.

>    And with the games ? Now, All the new games are in protected mode,
> like sbos or megaem. Then they wont work with the gus emulations...
> And naturaly, they don't have a GUS option in its setup.
Uhh...  Like what?  I can only think of one or two games that 
have come out which don't support the GUS natively.  Many games out there 
may not ship with GUS sound as an option, but there are numerous hacks 
and fixes to get beautiful GUS sound.  All the best and lastest games 
right now sound great on the GUS with the native support option from the 
installation menu.  Where do you source your information from?  WC3, 
DOOM, Heretic, Descent, UAKM, Relentless, Nascar, Quarantine, Rise of the 
Triad, NHL Hockey, Creature Shock, and 11th Hour all support GUS with an 
installation option in the setup menu.  Exactly how do you define "All 
new games"?  BTW, SBOS works in protected mode for games that allow it.

> > My friends, I'm sorry, but I think that the GUS is dead. 
> I hoppe that I'm wrong, I hoppe realy.
Yes, you are wrong.  You could go with an AWE32, but if your 
at all worried about cost, you'll come crawling back to the GUS inevitably.

> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 95 9:21:02 MET
> From: Odd Kenneth Oden <odd_oden@spirea.gih.no>
> Subject: So it didn't need NMI, huh?
> 
> Well, hello and happy new year everybody. I just wanted to say hi to
whatever
> person who said that NMI wasn't necessary with the new maxsbos. 

[mass hysteria over NMI deleted]

> Please, Gravis. You don't have to use NMI in all your products. Suggesting
> that I should buy a new mainboard is a waist of time. I don't think the GUS
> is worth more of my money now.
> Do better.
It doesn't need NMI as I recall, but uses it by default.  I don't 
have a GUS MAX and my NMI works, so I could be wrong but I think you have 
to have a "/C" on the LOADER.EXE command line.  Or it might might be /C 
for DRIVER.EXE.

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 23:08:15 -0800 (PST)
From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." <pchienjr@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V18 #4

>I have been told that both rebel assault and indycar does work with SBOS,
>but I not for me. Has anyone gotten Monkey Island to
>work with SBOS?

What processor type are you using, a 486?  Monkey Island requires a patch 
to get it working with a 486 -- weird, huh?  I thought it was my 
UltraSound, but when I tried the game without any sound settings, it 
still crashed on my computer.  You can get the patch somewhere on 
wuarchive.wustl.edu in the patches directory of the game of the ibmpc 
directory (sorry, I forgot the actual hierarchy).

-Peter

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Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 23:52:41 +0100
From: "Jerry van Waardenberg" <jerry@waard.iaf.nl>
Subject: GUS MAX vs. GUS + DB

Hi,

What's the difference between a GUS MAX and a regular GUS with 16-bit
daughterboard (except for the CD-ROM interfaces)? Can I use MAXSBOS with
a GUS + DB? Are they 100% compatible?

Greetz,
  Jerry
-- 
Happy new year!
_____________________________________________________________
 Jerry van Waardenberg     -=-  Internet: jerry@waard.iaf.nl
 Voice: (+31)(0)5476 2041  -=-  FidoNet: 2:283/726.9
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Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 11:20:50 +0000
From: marc@tymnet.bt.co.uk (Marc Whiffen)
Subject: GUS NT Drivers

Finally for those waiting patiently for NT drivers, here is the text of the 
message I received from the Gravis Tech dudes. Their reaction IS 
understandable given the user base for NT.

>Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 21:48:25 -0500
>From: GravisTech@aol.com
>To: marc@tymnet.bt.co.uk
>Subject: Re: NT Drivers
>Content-Length: 230
>
>NT drivers have been put on the back-burner ;-( sorry
>The market is not big enough at this time to support NT,  which is basically
>an institutional OS and will not be heavily used home users.  OS2 and Win'95
>have priority.
>
>Harry
>

I hope this clears up some of the NT queries. I am a little disappointed but 
am not particularly surprised at this. Their reasons are sound and until NTs 
user base develops and NT3.5 starts to migrate to desktop standalone 
systems, I can see their point.

Marc


|  Marc Whiffen - Systems Development Specialist   | The views represented 
|        BT Managed Network Services               | here are my own and do
|                                                  | not represent those of
| -= So much month left at the end of the money =- | the company I work for

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Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 01:38:06 +1030 (CST)
From: Adrian Vesnaver <adrian@adelaide.DIALix.oz.au>
Subject: GUS software on Cover CD of PC Zone

ON the cover CD of the November issue of PC Zone, there was a lot of GUS 
software. I'd greatly appreciate it if anyone whose got this CD would be 
able to e-mail this software to me.

Please do NOT send it to this address unless you are on the DIALix network.
Instead send it to adrianv@attic.apana.org.au
If you live in Adelaide, drop us a line to discuss how we might go about 
transfering these files over a modem link.

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 14:05:46 -0500 (EST)
From: Yong Li <s664296@aix2.uottawa.ca>
Subject: GUS v3.59 Label

The label should be "GUS_1" "GUS_2"....
instead of "ULTRASND_1" "ULTRASND_2"....
Sorry about the mistake I made in the early post.

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 22:45:26 +0200 (EET)
From: Saari Anssi <s106275@cs.tut.fi>
Subject: Re: Magic Carpet

> Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 15:33:35 -0500 (EST)
> From: GILMOUR@BINAH.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU
> Subject: Magic Carpet?
> 
> Yet another interesting new game doesn't support the GUS: Magic Carpet.
> The demo in the store looked and sounded awesome.  Alas it only looks
> awesome at home.  

I saved this from the news:

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Type \data\main at the command prompt.  Select Gravis UltraSound and hit
ESC to exit the setup.  Note that the game only run in alpha mode.

Michael Leung
h9206467@hkuxa.hku.hk
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I don't know what "alpha mode" means, though. Well, perhaps someone could 
advise how it works.

Anssi

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 15:01:22 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mark T. Heintz" <mheintz@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: MAXBOS works with reg. GUS & DOS4GW...

My friend decided to play around with MAXBOS on his original Ultrasound 
(early version, one of the first)...  Between a nagging hunch and the 
info contained in the readme (included on klingon.epas.utoronto.ca w/the 
full zip file) he assumed that the MAXBOS emulator was NOT solely 
designed for the Ultrasound MAX.  After downloading the file and reading 
the simplistic instructions (only difference between SBOS and SBOSMAX 
when launching is the new one uses a batch called: sboson.bat) he loaded 
and immeadiatly ran it for Magic Carpet (the game that uses HMI's but had 
programmers too lazy to actually intialize it) which uses DOS4GW, to his 
surprise, it worked.   The SBOSMAX apparently allows you to select either 
SB-PRO or SB-16, but only seems to work with the midi (the digital sounds 
do not appear to work correctly).
One last note:  You must have 512k or 1012k of memory on your 
original GUS for it to work.

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Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 01:08:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Buddy <u8843389@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA>
Subject: Midi box source

Since someone asked about this today, I'll post it again.

There is a company called PME that sells midi boxes, kits, etc that are 
very reasonable.

I ordered the midi box kit for $12 + $4 shipping/handling. I just 
finished putting it together and I am happy to report that it works 
beautifully, right down to the LED's!

You can order the box already assembled for $19 + $4.
I must warn you that when you order the kit, you don't get a box to put 
the circuit board in or a cable to connect to your GUS. I just used one 
of those plastic cases that you sometimes get with 3.5" disks and for a 
cable I used the cable off of a broken joystick.

Anyway, to find out more, finger PME@holonet.net
All the info comes up in their plan file.

Kevin

p.s. To the guy who wrote the message about the GUS being dead: If you 
think the GUS is dead, go quietly. Don't try to convince the rest of us. 
You'll just get flamed...

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 22:08:32 +0200
From: timo@hieti.pp.fi (Timo Hietikko)
Subject: Myst

Richard Schreiber wrote:

>I was happier with my GUS under Windows before the 3.56/3.57 upgrade!
>Half the sounds in Myst are just stupid pops or buzzes now.  Some of
>the sounds work sometimes and not others.  It was pretty disappointing
>to move to the newest Windows driver and have the sound quality in Myst
>*worsen*.
>
>Has anyone gotten Myst working well with the new driver?
>I'm tempted to go back to my original windows driver (which came with
>my GUS).

I have got Myst work pretty good with Windows driver V5.47, which is 
included to diskset 3.57. Sounds are OK. Try to change the Patch and 
playback DMA size. I have it now 5440 and when I tried to lower it (for 
example 512) I had a lot of problems with sound (pops and buzzes).

Timo Hietikko

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Date: Wed, 04 Jan 95 13:45:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Francis Li <fli@nermal.santarosa.edu>
Subject: Myst and GUS...

To get the best performance with Myst and the GUS, what you really need 
is a good CD-ROM drive.

To get all of the sound effects in Myst, set your buffer size to the max, 
which I think is 8192.  Unfortunately, if you have a slow CD-ROM drive, 
this will hamper QuickTime for Windows performance.

Luckily, I have a quad-speed CD-ROM drive, and I got both good video AND 
sound.  If you don't have a fast CD-ROM drive, I would probably just set 
the buffer to 8192 anyways, since the game doesn't use much video anyway...

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 22:55:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Thomas Ngo <tngo@netcom.com>
Subject: Poor GUS... not to me.

This is for the person talking about the AWE.  Fewer game support 
AWE than the GUS natively.  some of the AWE supporters are FIFA soccer 
and descent.  And AWE uses emulations for GM to doesn't it?  Oh, very few 
Mod players support AWE as well.  I have to admire(yes) the AWE because 
of the expandibility of it's ram.  It can have more than 1mb.  But lets 
put it this way, if the GUS had more than 1mb, hmm... large more 
realistic patches!  I wonder what the AWE can do with only 1 mb of 
samples. Probably much worse then the GUS.  just my 2 cents.

tngo@netcom.com

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 95 17:22:47 EST
From: rschutt@pen.k12.va.us (Ryan Andrew Schutt)
Subject: Questions

1.)  Is there a separate set of disks for the UltraMAX or is
the same set of disks for both the GUS and the max?


2.)  Anyone have a MIDI keyboard they might want to sell.  I
don't need anything fancy, just something to plug into my max
(if I can ever get it working under windows that is!!)

Thanks

Ryan Schutt
rschutt@pen.k12.va.us

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Date: Thu, 5 Jan 95 08:48:27 +0100
From: bartekm@sunp3.cyf.gov.pl (Bartek Moszynski)
Subject: subscribe

subscribe

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Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 10:07:56 +0800 (GMT+0800)
From: the FLAT^^TOP <kohkhang@iscs.nus.sg>
Subject: System Shock CD sound solution

>Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 13:57:36 -0800
>From: sullivan@bbn.com (Mike Sullivan)
>Subject: GUS drivers for new enhanced System Shock CD
>
>The enhanced CD version of System Shock came out last week which 
>supports SVGA graphics and more sounds.  However, unlike the 
>original version of System Shock, this version does not include 
>GUS support - it provides drivers for the Sound Blaster, AWE32, 
>and the Roland Sound Canvas.  The software uses DOS4GW.  Megaem 
>won't work with this game at all, and SBOS failed - it worked 
>in the soundcard setup but crashed when the game started.  
>I am currently using the software from the 3.57 GUS disks.  Is
>there a way to use the existing GUS software, or do I have to 
>wait for the new, improved Megaem?

there is a way to get sound from the GUS, there is a file 
called usail310.zip at epas, i used this file to patch 
system shock CD, which uses the 3.10 AIL drivers... i 
merely did what the readme of the zip file told me to do 
and i had sound and digital effects up in no time....

try it, email me if u need more help.
-- 
/===<Jerry Koh aka FLAT^^TOP at DISCS National University of Singapore>===\
| kohkhang@iscs.nus.sg, MsWFWG, GUSmax, Kelvin 64, & Supra v.Fc 28.8 user |
\====<DOOMer, X-phile, BattleTech, Babylon 5, StarTrek & StarWars fan>====/

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 23:18:04 -0800 (PST)
From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." <pchienjr@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: The missing files in epas

>But get 00Index |more shows a LOT more files than are contained
>in the said directory.   Why are they missing?

epas only has the most recent, just validated stuff; you can find all the 
other files at wuarchive or orst.-Peter

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 95 18:13 GMT
From: mitchec@cix.compulink.co.uk (Colin Mitchell)
Subject: WC3

Anyone know how to get Ultrasound digi FX working in WC3? I have a v3.7 
gus with 1024k. The music works perfectly, but in the setup program the 
FX test is just a garble of noise, and in the game it stops and starts, 
and when it does start sometimes its kinda warbly or garbled. This 
happens in all sections of the game. Anyone know what gives?

Ta much, gussers
>>Colin<<

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Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 06:04:53 +0100
From: A.PAUW@elsevier.nl
Subject: Windows 3.48 drivers

Now somebody asked what the differences were for the new 3.59
disks with the older ones. I can mention one thing for the
Windows drivers.

The previous two or three drivers in Windows had certain squeeks
and buzzes while playing wave files every now and then. The
driver version 3.47, the previous one, was said to have dealt with
it. Well, the buzzes were less audible but partly still there.
The latest one 3.48 didn't gave me any buzz so far (fingers
crossed) so anyone having this problem: try the latest drivers.

Another thing which still exists is when I play an AVI file
(play buffer dma size 768 bytes or so! otherwise it locks up).
The WAV sound is too low (the mixer setting is correct). But
when I pause and continue the volume is correct. It started with
the drivers from disks 3.53 or so. I guess it is
my Video for Windows v. 1.1a which need to be upgraded. Other
programs don't have this problem. Anyone nows where I can find
the latest one?

It would be nice if Gravis would give an inventory of what there
drivers can do (or are supposed to do), especially the Midi
implementation.

One other thing: I mailed this to Gravis with no reply and have
tried it out on the new Windows drivers. It has to do with the
MIDI implementation. My Roland E-16 has a modulation button. If
you press it it send the correct controller value stepping up
from 0 to 7f. When I release it it only sends a value 0. The 
reply of the GUS is rather awkward. Stepping upward with the
modulation gives vibrato indeed. Releasing the button it stops
with vibrato at the point where the frequency is at that
particular moment and does NOT fall back to the standard
frequency of that note. Now using a modulation wheel (stepping
up and down nicely) works perfectly well, but using the button
on the E-16 for modulation leaves me with a detuned note.

Bye,
Albert
a.pauw@elsevier.nl

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Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 11:01:53 -0600 (CST)
From: Kurst <kurst@netnet.net>

Subject: [GUS MAX] GUS Problems!!! HELP!!!
Newsgroups:
comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.games,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.misc
Summary: 
Keywords: 

Okay I am at my third sound card in the last month...  The 
problems after I a couple sentences of complaints...

As an "Amiga"/"3DO"/"Jaguar"/"Unix" involved person I finnally 
broke down and got a system for WCIII and Unix...
I got with my system a Panasonic SOUND16A sound card.  It 
sucked.  I do believe that it is a Sound Galaxy 16...
I tried the esnoniq/reveal with 1.2 drivers and it was just way 
too synthee for me.  My Panasonic CD-ROM that came with it work well off 
of it, but the sound was just to synthee....  It was good for 128$ but 
not that good...
So I got a gus max....  In some area it sounds great and I am 
impressed with it but in others.....  Here are my problems...

1) I have no CD-ROM drivers for my panasonic CD-ROM for the GUS 
it is 2X spin and has the four pin connector for sound).  Does 
gus/panasonic have drivers for "standard" panasonic cd-rom I can get on 
the net.

2) I need more memory for the GUS Max!(This is more of a local 
question)   Does anybody know a chain store or a normal store in the Twin 
Cities area that sells the 256Kx16 rams that the GUS (And my video card 
which needs the same type too) Max these ram chips.   I am impatient and 
would love the instant gradification of being able to buy these chips in 
a store.

3) While WCIII works well with it, doom II works pretty good, and 
Descent sounds awesome I am STILL having problems with these games is 
there any help these are the ones I am having problems with...
a) Little Big Adventure (Relentless?)*DEMO*- No music no sound not a 
beep
b) Dark Forces *DEMO* - No sound or music!
c) Magic Carpet *DEMO* - No Sound or music!
d) Inherit The Earth - CD Edition - Lock up on boot up or Plays 
two or three notes and then reboot. Yes I am running the Gus bat startup...
e) Sam n Max CD - I think people may no this one!
f) Theme Park (Floppy version) - Blam Crash no sound just a reboot.
And a few more...
I have tried sbos, maxsbos, and the rest ARGGGGHHH!!!!!   I just 
want good sound..

Am I just out of luck with this software...  Is there a good set 
of routine for software compatibility for gus max...

4) Is there any good demos or software that really uses the gus 
max to almost its limits!!!  Please tell me where...

5) Will adding memory really improve the sound quality and/or 
emulation?  Some sounds just are not the best that I believe what sounds 
cards should be offering...

Now the question is do I continue with the GUS MAX or get the 
AWE-32 if I can't clear these problems up.  I love sound cards I am 
having so much fun with them...

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