GUS Daily Digest            Mon, 14 Nov 94  9:37 PST     Volume 16: Issue  14 

Today's Topics:
					  A CD-ROM to work with GUS
			   Another vote for a separate games digest
 Audio Cable for GUS MAX and Panasonic 562b CD-ROM & TIE Fighter Woes
							cd input jack
						CD Input jack pinout?
							doom2 fixes...
						Games using GUS and CD
						Gus 3d, anything yet?
				  GUS and System Shock Demo Solution
					   GUS Daily Digest V16 #13
						 Mitsumi FX001D Probs
					 New "gus-games" mailing-list
						Playing Midi in Linux?
				   starting out auxilliary software
					  Transport Tycoon with GUS?
				  Ultrasound Experience on drive E:
					 UltraSound Max Upgrade Offer

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 22:45:12 -0500 (EST)
From: David A Denis <denis@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Subject: A CD-ROM to work with GUS

Hey all,
	I'm going to be getting a 2x speed CD probably around Christmas 
time, and I'm wondering if anyone can suggest one that will work OK with 
the GUS.  I keep hearing about people having trouble getting their GUS 
and CD to work together.  I have a regular GUS, not sure of the version, 
I have had it for about 2 years though.  So, I'll be using the interface 
card coming with the CD drive.  Any suggestions are appreciated.  Feel 
free to simply email them.
Dave
denis@acsu.buffalo.edu

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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 94 07:27:59 PST
From: Rick Skalsky <skalsky@aaai.org>
Subject: Another vote for a separate games digest

I'll cast my vote for a separate games digest too.

Rick

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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 94 09:52:27 GMT
From: Mark Bullen <Mark.Bullen@src.bae.co.uk>
Subject: Audio Cable for GUS MAX and Panasonic 562b CD-ROM & TIE Fighter Woes

Hi all,

Could someone please tell me where I can get an AUDIO cable for
connecting my Panasonic 562b CD-ROM drive to my GUS MAX? Somewhere in
the UK would be nice ;-)

The cable that I got with the CD-ROM drive has a 4 pin plug (suitable
for SoundBlaster?), but the GUS MAX has a 3 pin socket -- I've tried
Maplin, Tandy and RS for the parts but with no success :-( and I'd
rather not solder the cable directly onto my GUS MAX.

Has anybody experienced any strange "drifting" when playing TIE
Fighter with a joystick and with either megaem or sbos loaded? Despite
repeated attempts to re-calibrate the joystick during the game, my
Imperial Fighters seem to have a mind of their own. 

The problem goes away if I don't load megaem or sbos and play with no
sound FX and no music :-(((

I've experienced this behaviour on two machines with my GUS MAX; an
ISA i486SX-25 and a VL i486DX2-66. I don't experience any joystick
calibration problems playing DOOM, Wacky Wheels or Raptor!?

Any help appreciated,

Mark.

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Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 22:55:35 -0700 (MST)
From: Ignatius Tam <tam@amisk.cs.ualberta.ca>
Subject: cd input jack

Forwarded message:
> 
> Date: 12 Nov 1994 21:16:00 +0100
> From: tom@cat.ping.de (Thomas Adams)
> Subject: CD Input jack pinout?
> 
> Who can tell me the pinout of the 4 pin CDROM audio input on a GUS V3.4? I  
> suppose the two inner pins are ground and normally it isn't really  
> important if I get the channels connected properly but I'd really like to  
> hear the Left Channel on my left speaker and the Right Channel on my right  
> speaker.
> 
> Yes, I tried to RTFM but the manual didn't cover that topic.
> 
> -tom
so what's the problem? the manual already said it's LGGR...
in order not to buy an extra cable, i removed that plastic "head" thing
and insert the wires into relative pins, they fitted and worked wonderfully...
do you want to try? :)

-iGnatius

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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 10:27:26 GMT
From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: CD Input jack pinout?

>Who can tell me the pinout of the 4 pin CDROM audio input on a GUS V3.4? I  
>suppose the two inner pins are ground and normally it isn't really  
>important if I get the channels connected properly but I'd really like to  
>hear the Left Channel on my left speaker and the Right Channel on my right  
>speaker.

Yes, the middle ones are grounds. Just sort out the others by experiment.
For example, use Recording Session to play a MID, and pan it completely
one way. Adjust your cable so that it pans to the correct speaker.
(Otherwise we'll get a discussion like "While standing on your head,
looking up at the GUS, the R pin is the one...")

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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 00:31:01 -0700 (MST)
From: Ignatius Tam <tam@amisk.cs.ualberta.ca>
Subject: doom2 fixes...

Hi,

sorry for posting another one...
if you guys don't know, a new (1.7a) patch for doom2 is out
and it fixes the scratchy/shitty sound that plagues the original
doom2, it seems very stable (i don't know)...

i've got it in ftp.uml.edu/msdos/games/id
can't remember the filename, sorry...

warning: patch will take a long time if you do not have a diskcache
(i think), so don't complain...

-iGnatius

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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 11:51:21 GMT
From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Games using GUS and CD

>     I'm using DOS 5 and I can set up an autoexec.bat
>     and config.sys to load the SCSI CD programs
>     allowing me to access my SCSI CD ROM drive on E:
	 
>     But, when I run sbos   or   ultramid, my E: drive
>    becomes inaccessible  No longer a valid drive.

Sounds like a clash between the IO address for your SCSI card,
and the address that the TSRs are trying to trap sound output on.

I remember the documentation for megaem discussing the default
address for Adaptec SCSI cards being the same as the address of
a Roland something-or-other which they were emulating. I haven't
got these docs to hand, but would have thought that attempting
to move your SCSI card to another address was a possibility.

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Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 11:31:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Vhold <vhold@netcom.com>
Subject: Gus 3d, anything yet?

I was just wondering if anything has come out yet that uses the 3D 
capabilities on the gus (besides that one demo with the head anyways)

Seems like a game company or somebody would find that useful and try 
using it, but so far, apparently not.  Anybody know of any plans by 
anybody to use it?  Id planned to use it with doom but they didn't, I 
heard epic megagames wanted to make some game with it, but that hasn't 
happened yet, anybody know?

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Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 18:22:09 -0500
From: rezaei@tristan.TN.CORNELL.EDU (Mohammad Ali Rezaei)
Subject: GUS and System Shock Demo Solution

System Shock demo works fine with the gus. All you have to do is
the usualy AIL trick. SS uses the 32bit ail drivers (found in the file
gail32*.zip). Also included in gail32 is full instructions for getting
things to go (essentially you replace the sound blaster and the mt32 drivers
with the gus ones, loadpats and then run the game with sb+mt32). 
If you need more details let me know.
Hope this helps.
						-Mohammad
P.S. thanks for the Earth Siege fix. I too only get drums, but for
this game the digital is the most important.

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Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 13:59:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Stephen Thomas Brindle <sbrindle@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V16 #13

> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 13:16:36 -0600 (CST)
> From: Antonio Guia <guia@cc.UManitoba.CA>
> Subject: starting out auxilliary software
> 
> For those of you who have just gotten a GUS and would like to just get 
> the files while will help you out, or the most recent software, check on 
> ftp.umanitoba.ca in the pub/gus directory.  Right now, i have set up a 
> read-only directory accessible to anonymous ftp including the 3.56 
> drivers, propats3, a conversion program, the recent windows drivers, and 
> the windows driver which makes a midi input device out of your computer 
> keybaord.  So far it's at 27 Megs and it should be available for at least 
> another month or so.  This is running on a unix box (sun-station to the 
> best of my knowledge).

I tried this but it says it is an unknown host.  Anyone else have this 
problem?

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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------------------------|I lack the time to make it short."
	Ethereal Dragon |   -Blaise Pascal
	 -==(UDIC)==-   |
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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 23:27:56 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Michael Vincent <Michael.Vincent@vuw.ac.nz>
Subject: Mitsumi FX001D Probs

HI all..

Im in need of some help here...a few days ago I brought a mitsumi fx001d 
2x cdrom drive, and instead of getting the daughter-board for my gravis, 
I decided to use the controller card that came with the drive.  The 
controller card is a WDH-7001C BTW:)

Anyway, I would like to have the audio line from the cdrom drive to 
connect to my gus...the audio line that came with the drive though was 
not the right type...so off I went to the local gus dist. here in 
Wellington, NZ, and the "gus expert" there tried to hook the audio from 
the drive to the gravis cd audio connections..

he couldnt get any sound through the Gus at all...it was coming through 
the drive though as we chucked some speakers into the headphones jack of 
the drive..

After all that, I would like to know if anyway has achieved getting this 
going, and if so, a description of what I need to do would be very 
helpful:)...even a diagram if your any good at ascii drawings;)..

Anyway, im not very knowledgable about cdrom drives or soundcards, so any 
help would be most appreciated:)

Thanx

Vin.

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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 10:21:04 GMT
From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: New "gus-games" mailing-list

>I don't know if it's the case for many people on this list, but I don't care too 
>much about games, and I don't read messages about them on the digest. As there 
>are many such messages every day, it makes much garbage for me on my mail.
>So if other people feel like me, I suggest the administrator of the digest 
>created a new mailing-list, say "gus-games@..." for example, dedicated to 
>games-specific issues, which would reduce the overload on "gus-general..."

I'd still vote for it, but we went through the whole exercise once before.
There was only one list (if you don't count gus-sdk), and after much
discussion we split into gus-general and gus-music, whereas what
me and some others wanted was gus-games (then we could unsubscribe
from it) and gus-everything-else.

With the present split, gus-music is a waste of time because there
is virtually no traffic in it. If you want a proper discussion, you
*have* to post to gus-general.

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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 00:46:14 -0600
From: Gene Shaw <gshaw@umr.edu>
Subject: Playing Midi in Linux?

Hello

I was wondering how to play midi files under linux. 
I looked at some of the midi players on Sunsite but they
where all for FM based cards at least as far as I could tell
I know that somehow that all of the Gus Patches are going to
have to be accessiable by Linux but still there is a need
for some sort of config file, or enviroment variable that will point
to where the patchs are stored.  I tried doing a 
cat file.mid >/dev/sequencer it didn't work at all said no
such device at address.  Everything else works fine mixer,
gmod, cat .au's to /dev/audio, and so forth.  Can Linux even
play midi files.  Also another question is it possible to 
make the GUS play a file say whip.au everytime the system makes
the pc speaker beep.  The reason I ask is because I no longer have
a pc speaker and it would be really handy if I could do this.
What would be really neat is if I could assign different 
sounds to different events.  Example One for new mail, One
for a talk request and so forth.  I looked at the Howto's on
this one but there was really nothing on this subject at least
nothing that I could find.

Thanks
Gene Shaw
gshaw@umr.edu   

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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 08:25:42 -0500
From: "Stephen David House" <sdhouse@eos.ncsu.edu>
Subject: Re: starting out auxilliary software

Thanks Antonio,

I'm one of those new GUSers and I REALLY appreciate you putting the files on
your ftp site.  I just want to mention that I could not access the site as:

	ftp.umanitoba.ca

But after a little research, I was able to find the same site as:

	ftp.cc.umanitoba.ca

I figure other people may have the same problem, so I want them to know of the
different name.  Or possibly our nameserver is not quite up-to-date.

Thanks Again!!



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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 14:24:21 +1100 (EST)
From: Tom Minchin <tom@cairo.anu.edu.au>
Subject: Transport Tycoon with GUS?

Hi all,
	Has anyone tried 'Transport Tycoon' (Microprose UK) with the GUS? I've
	seen some posting on USENET saying that using the GUS causes the music
	to go beserk (eg playing all the patches on the card memory) and the
	sound causes the game to pause for a few seconds every few minutes.

	Is this someone with a dodgy motherboard or is it software?

Tom

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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 09:43:47 GMT
From: "Mark D. Billinge" <PPYLMDB@ppn3.physics.nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: Ultrasound Experience on drive E:

> From: read@utpapa.ph.utexas.edu (Dave Read)
> 
> Has anyone gotten the Ultrasound Experience CD to work?
> I received mine a few days ago, and it still has yet to work.  I have
> two hard drives (C: and D:) and the CD drive (E:).  I suspect that the
> code is hard-coded to expect the CD drive to be E:, because 
> the failure causes a box to pop up saying that the CD is unavailable,
> and the CD drive's light never flickered.

I have a very similar setup, and the CD works fine in drive E:.  
Windows is on D: though - I imagine you have it on C:.  It did give 
me some strange error messages when I tried to run it the first time, 
but it worked anyhow.

Mark

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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 11:07:24 +1000 (EST)
From: "Jason L. Williams" <n1459562@student.fit.qut.edu.au>
Subject: UltraSound Max Upgrade Offer

Someone sent a message here saying the upgrade offer expired on 31 
October.  The message John Smith posted here said 31 December.

In fact, he posted it here AFTER 31 October.

-JaeL

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