GUS Daily Digest            Wed, 9 Feb 94  0:07 gus-     Volume 11: Issue   7 

Today's Topics:
							Cap't Cavedude
						 Direct D/A sampling
					GUS0038.ZIP and related topics
					   GUS Daily Digest V11 #5
				   GUS Daily Digest V11 #6 (3 msgs)
							   line in?
		  New Windows Drivers: Sound Crashes; Poor Animation
				  playfile 3.2B, gustrit, heini.zip
						Question about DOS4GW
							 Sound in MI?
						 Uploaded a MID file
					Windows For WG 3.11 & the GUS

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 94 05:58:15 EST
From: madbax@aol.com
Subject: Re: Cap't Cavedude

Uh,
   Actually I *think* it's because they don't *want* it out, rather than not
having enough space or enough people willing to d/l 20 megs in a wad.    And
again, I may be completely off base, and the demo with the cavemen may be
another demo ALTOGETHER (chorus: "the demo with the cavemen may be another
demo...<G>).
   However, it does seem likely..."I" haven't seen that many 20 meg demos
floating around, my own nutty self...<G>
	Cya!
																	 --Joe

			  (Joseph Baxter.....madbax@aol.com)

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 08:52:59 -0500
From: liaor@churchst.ccs.itd.umich.edu
Subject: Direct D/A sampling

Just curious, will the 16-bit daughterboard for the GUS have direct digital
I/O?  (I guess not, since it would have already been mentioned.)

Also, can all CD-ROM drives directly copy CD-digital audio to the hard drive?
I downloaded this pogram called CDGRAB v3.2 (from ftp.cdrom.com) and I can't
tell from the lame docs whether direct digital-audio transfer is possible with
all CD-ROM drives.  The authors want registration fee even before the program
proves its worthiness.

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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 94 00:22:00 +0000
From: da930908@mcis.messiah.edu
Subject: GUS0038.ZIP and related topics

For all you who can't find GUS0038.ZIP and can't seem to pick up on things,
it's on archive.orst.edu in the pub/packages/gravis/submit directory.

<duh>

Unfortunately, I keep getting a WATTCP Socket Error: -1 whenever I try to
DL it.

Is this a problem with my side, or is this a problem with my server, or is
this a problem with archive.orst.edu??

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 12:23:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Rath <cllym@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V11 #5

RE:
I just got this file from a friend of mine, it was called gus-upd.zip 
and it was a programm to update the memory on your gus so you can have
a playback rate of 67 KHz. I would like to know whether anyone has heard
of this before and knows if it will work. I haven't tried it yet, afraid
that it might damage my card. What does it do anyway? Does it reprogramm
an epromm on your gus? 
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You know, I've had this file for awhile, too.. Since early Jan.
Never wanted to try it out in case it was a bug or virus designed
by some miffed SB 16 user... :) hehehe!

Anyone else know about it?  I can put it on EPAS if needed.

Rath

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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 94 11:05:31 +0200
From: Yossi Oren <LIOREN1@WEIZMANN.weizmann.ac.il>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V11 #6

>Date: Mon, 07 Feb 1994 12:20:36 -0800
>From: Harlan Hilman <hilman@ichips.intel.com>
>Subject: GUS settings
>
> What do I need to set my GUS to for:
>
>  Doom
Use an IRQ below 7 and select native support.  be sure to close the door if
you want your children to live a healthy adult life... MUAHAHAHAA!!
>  Civ
Load Mega-Em as MT-32 (emuset -mt) support and select a Roland.
>  Master of Orion
Look for a file called MOOGUS.ZIP at EPAS mirrors.  It fixes the lot.
>  F117
Mega-Em, methinks.  never tried.
>  X-Wing
AIL?

HTH,
Yossi.

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 09:31:56 -0500 (EST)
From: Phat H Tran <ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V11 #6

> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 18:14:38 -0800 (PST)
> From: jtang@argon.chem.ucla.edu (James Tang)
> Subject: 32bit AIL question
> 
> Can anyone explain why the 32 bit version of AIL doesn't need a TSR or
> any of that sort of program to make it work?  It is as if with 32 bit
> the GUS have native support.  What's the technical/non-technical
> reasons behind it?

The code for ultramid has been integrated into the drivers themselves
(look at their sizes -- they are quite large).  There is a lot of
code duplication as well, since the drivers have to drive the same
piece of hardware (the GF1 is used both for MIDI and streaming digital
audio playback), and thus must not trample on each other.  However,
since these drivers are used by games that run in protected mode to 
avoid the 640k barrier, the size of the drivers is not a problem.

> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 09:25:43 -0800 (PST)
> From: Eli Bingham <ebingham@tcsgi.mhs.mendocino.k12.ca.us>
> Subject: Getting sound with Ultima VII Part 2
> 
> Okay, I've tried EVERYTHING to get sound in this game. I patched in the 
> AIL drivers but they don't work (says "can't initialize sound card") and 
> there's barely enough RAM to load Ultramid (U7P2 makes you disable all 
> memory managers, so no loadhi'ing). Mega-Em is of course braindead with 
> an EMM (why does it NEED an EMM, anyway?). So, is there some sort of 
> patch out there? Somebody help!

U7 won't work with the GUS' AIL drivers since the game uses customized
versions of those drivers.  You'll need to use SBOS.

> Also...does anyone know whether Ultima VIII will have native support?

Petition Origin for native GUS support.

> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 1994 12:20:36 -0800
> From: Harlan Hilman <hilman@ichips.intel.com>
> Subject: GUS settings
> 
>   What do I need to set my GUS to for:
> 
>   Doom

GUS is supported in native mode by DOOM, but since the game doesn't
support IRQs greater than 7, you must set your GUS' IRQs to ones
in the 0 to 7 range.

>   Civ

Use SBOS or Mega-Em.  Nothing special about this one.

>   Master of Orion

There's a GUS patch for this game somewhere on the archives.

>   F117

Use SBOS.

>   X-Wing

Use Mega-Em.

> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 10:41:00 -0500
> From: terry.gritzan@dt-can.com (Terry Gritzan)
> Subject: NMI
> 
> 1. Well I upgraded to a 386DX40 board and got one with the "nmi
> procedure disabled".  Could someone explain what this means?

It means just that.  SBOS couldn't detect a working NMI (non-maskable
interrupt).  Some of the new motherboards do not bother to implement
this feature, which is part of the AT bus specs.

> Will this cause any other problems than not being able to run SBOS?  I'm
> not terribly hurt by that.  Sounds like it is time to pick up a cheap SB
> for real compatibility.

You might not be able to use the GUS' MIDI port in Windows without a
working NMI.

> 2. I am using Megaem to get SB DAC support in the meantime.
>    Are their any plans to work on or release a non-protected mode
>    megaem?

No plans since Mega-Em needs protected mode to do the I/O prot trapping
central to its emulation duties.

> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 09:29:42 -0800 (PST)
> From: Eli Bingham <ebingham@tcsgi.mhs.mendocino.k12.ca.us>
> Subject: No TREMSTR.PAT...help!
> 
> I just upgraded to v3.1 of the GUS software. The software I had before 
> was rather old (HONKTONK.PAT instead of HONKY.PAT) and now it seems there 
> is a 'new' patch which I don't have (TREMSTR.PAT, Tremelo Strings). 
> Is there some way someone could uuencode this .PAT file and email it to 
> me? I'd appreciate it.

Grab gus0034.zip from archive.orst.edu (pub/packages/gravis/gravis/patches,
I think).

> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 08:28:08 PST
> From: Rick Skalsky <skalsky@aaai.org>
> Subject: Question about gusmod
> 
> I'm running a 386-40 with the gus using 2.06 disks and have had a problem
> develop.  Everything in windows works fine, but the dos gusmod and mod demos
> just lock up when I try to run them with the gus included mod files.  Oddly,
> dmp plays mods fine.  Any ideas what's going on?  When I run gusmod, the

Try rerunning GUSMOD's setup.exe.

Phat.

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 9:26:53 CST
From: cowles@hydra.convex.com (John Cowles)
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V11 #6

gmyles@cml.com writes:
> 
> Has anyone tried the newest (or any for that matter) Windows drivers
> with Windows for Workgroups 3.11 Add-on for Windows (try saying that 5
> times fast).  This is billed as Microsoft's intermediate upgrade for
> Windows while we wait until the end of the year for Win 4.0.  It
> includes a fair bit of 32 bit features that Microsoft claims speeds
> Windows up by 50%.  I have heard real world reports of about 30%.
> -
I run my GUS under WFW3.11 using the latest drivers. No problem. BTW,
you don't get 32bit features unless you have a Western Digital IDE
controller. Didn't speed my windows up! I have SCSI.

John

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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 1994 01:52:40 -0600 (CST)
From: Michael Yin <MYIN@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu>
Subject: line in?

ok, i have both a GUS and a SBPRO installed in my computer...both cards work
perfectly fine, but i want both cards to be routed to my stereo system, so i
tried to stick the output of the SBPRO into the line in of the GUS. Well, that
didn't seem to work. However, if i stick the output of the SBPRO into the
output of the GUS, and then the output of the GUS to the stereo through the
amplified out of the GUS, it all seems to work...does this happen to anybody
else? I have a v2.4 card, and i tried it on my friend's v3.4 card, and the same
things happen. The line in works prefectly fine in USS8 when i hook up a cd
player to the line in, but only after i turn on the line-in through the USS8
program...the -l option in the ultrinit command doesn't seem to do anything for
me. Just wondering about this strange occurance.
 
Mike

p.s. Is there any difference between routing the SBPRO through the GUS, or vice
versa? I mean, does one way produce less noise, or are they about equal?

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Date: 08 Feb 94 12:44:22 PST
From: ksoule@tatertot.com (KSoule)
Subject: New Windows Drivers: Sound Crashes; Poor Animation

Jim English wrote in Digest #30 V10
> when i run kq6 CD version in windows when it gets to the scene where the guy
> has just gotten into the castle (after talking to lassie) :) and is talking 
> to the wizard guy with the turban, it just crashes my windows. (drop to DOS)

> and if i run windows wo rebooting it says the sound drivers arent installed.
> but rebooting fixes it all.  So this seems like a problem with the new
> windows drivers.  Anyone else had thisd problem?
> -jim

I had a similar problem playing Sierra's Take a Break! 
Pinball (Windows).  Both midi and sound will be churning along, and then 
all of the sound will die.  The machine doesn't lock (the game 
continues to play, without sound), but I get a MIDI MAPPER message that
the drivers aren't installed, and I have to restart Windows to regain my
sound.  This loss of sound happens each time I play the game.

To solve this problem, I returned to the Windows drivers that shipped 
with the standalone version of Patch Maker Lite.  They don't 
crash the sound.

Am having one other problem with Pinball.  The GUS drivers are 
messing up the animation.  Sometimes both the sound and the 
animation with momentarily freeze (a midi note will be 
"elongated") for a very noticeable fraction of a second.  Makes
it really hard to play the game effectively.  I can "solve" the
problem if I uninstall the GUS drivers, i.e., no sound (or if a
use a PAS16 and the PAS drivers).  Pinball is not a patch-caching
app (are there any?)

Fast machine; 486DX/50, so that is not the problem; other 
applications are open, but none of them are doing anything; no 
DOS apps open.

It seems that the "pause" may occur if I hit both flippers at 
the same time (Left and Right Shift keys), but I am not sure 
about this and, in any event, the pause also occurs when there is no 
keyboard activity.  FWIW, Northgate Ultra-T keyboard.  This 
animation-interruptus problem has occurred with all of the GUS 
Windows drivers I have tried.

Any comments or help will be appreciated.

Kent Soule

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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 00:56:25 +1100 (EST)
From: Andrew Leahy <A.Leahy@st.nepean.uws.edu.au>
Subject: playfile 3.2B, gustrit, heini.zip

Just a few things:

1. I was using the new playfile (3.2B), and I came across some problems:

   i) when "recording" to a .WAV file, I got an error "Cannot record (10)"
"Error writing file \tmp\a.wav"! I change to a .SND file and it records
fine. Change back to .WAV file still no go...BUT if I create a dummy file
called "a.wav" I have NO PROBLEMS recording OVER IT! Also, if the file I'm
recording over is larger than the sample I'm recording, PLAYFILE does not
trash the rest of the file!! (giving really weird results if you record
over it at different sample rates :)

  ii) using "playfile -n1" to Enable the Line-level input DOESN'T WORK. 
The [X] appears in the Line Input box...but no sound! Toggling this box
doesn't help, line input is lost! Originally I thought I'd read the help
wrong, so I tried "playfile -n0", this does exactly the same thing! 

   Question: Can you set the stereo position of mono-file playback with
the new playfile? Used to be "playfile -bX" where X was the stereo
position. 


2. I had problems getting "gustrit.zip" (GRAVIS.EXE) running on my
machine, the only way I can get it working is to run "playfile" first
(just run and Quit it). The run GRAVIS.EXE...works fine. Not a really 
amazing demo...though :(

3. I've uploaded to epas a collection of GS MIDI files under the filename
"heini.zip", download and enjoy (of course playmidi doesn't play them
correctly, because of the percussion screw-up, use Windows instead!). 
There are some nice arrangements...I like ROSS.MID. 

My setup: 486/33, 8Mb RAM, GUS 1Mb, DOS 6.2. ULTRAINT=220,1,1,7,5
_____________________________________________________________________________
  Andrew "Alf" Leahy                        email: alf@st.nepean.uws.edu.au  
  Computer Systems Officer                    phone: (047) 360622 (work ;-)  
  Department of Computing, University of Western Sydney - Nepean, Australia  

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Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 23:37:45 -0800 (PST)
From: jtang@argon.chem.ucla.edu (James Tang)
Subject: Question about DOS4GW

Since this had been brought up here before, I thought i might be
related to GUS.  What is DOS4GW anyway?  It's in my Syndicate
directory, but what do I use it for?

thanks for your help.

james

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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 94 12:08:59 +0100
From: Roberto Bonet <d93-rob@nada.kth.se>
Subject: Sound in MI?

I have trouble getting any sound from Monkey Island. Neither Megaem nor Sbos gives me any sound. Suggestions ?

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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 17:29:38 -0600
From: ken@austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach IBM)
Subject: Uploaded a MID file

Well, if anyone wants it, I uploaded a MID file I've had laying
around that I finally sorta finished. Still ends too abruptly,
but no big whoop. On epas (and mirros) in the submit directory.
File is called THE-RAIN.ZIP. There's a TXT there for it as well
as in the .ZIP. Your comments are welcome (but be nice).

Ken
ken@austin.ibm.com

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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 1994 17:07:37 SST
From: "FLAT^^TOP AT DISCS, NUS, SINGAPORE" <kohkhang@iscs.nus.sg>
Subject: Windows For WG 3.11 & the GUS

Garry Myles said in yesterday's digest..
>Has anyone tried the newest (or any for that matter) Windows drivers
>with Windows for Workgroups 3.11 Add-on for Windows (try saying that 5
>Windows while we wait until the end of the year for Win 4.0.  It
>includes a fair bit of 32 bit features that Microsoft claims speeds
>Windows up by 50%.  I have heard real world reports of about 30%.

Yes, the GUs drivers in v3.1 and even 2.06a works with WFWG3.11. WFWG3.11 has
almost 50% increase in speed only if u use 32bit file acces, which kinda
localises the cache to windows. But note, dos 6.2 is also required.

cheers

FLAT^^TOP
GUSig Singapore...
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 09:37:16 -0500
From: decvax!cg-atla.agfa.com!pasky@uucp-gw-2.pa.dec.com (Robert Pasky)

Subject: Problems with new Gravis software

> First of all, the Windows MOD player seems to be CPU sensitive.  It
> plays on my 386-40 but it sounds like a 45 being played at 33.3 and
> is, as such, pretty worthless to me.  WinMOD may not sound that
> great, but it doesn't drag like that.

Is it just slow (intermittent?) or off key? I've had that problem
(going off key) with every version of MODUS I tried. Actually, I
noticed the intermittent problem, too. Anytime Windows is busy for
more than a second or two, the music pauses.

I get the impression that MODUS is failing to restore the correct
pitch after a portamento slide or something. I was attempting to
listen to 'bigtime3.mod' last night (after installing GUS0038) and
within a few bars it got so sour that I had to kill it.  MODUS got
sent to the trashcan -- again.

BTW, I'm running a 486DX/33, so I *hope* it's not a CPU speed problem.

-- Bob

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