GUS Daily Digest            Tue, 25 Oct 94  9:37 PST     Volume 15: Issue  19 

Today's Topics:
		  Bounced Message to mbh.lightstream.nl!gus-general
			  Campanions of Xanth CD-ROM sound problems?
					 CD Audio line-in under OS/2
					   GUS Daily Digest V15 #13
		  GUS i/o ports, HMI drivers, SCSI CD's (3 replies)
				GUS MIDI controllers and bankswitching
						 Mail Delivery Status
					MEGAEM and EMM incompatibility
				my Power Chords rhythm editor is gone
								Myst?
					Need GUS MAX for 200$ in PARIS
						Panasonic 563 drive..
							 Pro-Pats v3
					 ProPats 3, Where Are You...
							   Question
						  SBOS & NHL Hockey
							 Some answers
						   Vol. 15 No. 1-9

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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 09:21:29 EST
From: "Carl" <CARL@BUSOP.CIT.WAYNE.EDU>
Subject: Campanions of Xanth CD-ROM sound problems?

Has anyone got MEGA-EM to work with Companions of Xanth?  It is not a 
protected mode program, so it should work, however I get no music 
from the game.  It's one of the few games i've seen that rquests a 
ROland IRQ, however, I did set it properly with MEGA-EM.  Can anyone 
help me out?  THanks..

--
Carl Mueller                                               cRaNeScUrEpJhArVeY
WSU Detroit, Michigan                                                      :P      

Bart:  Akira, my good man, when do we break blocks of ice with our heads?
Akira: First, you must fill your head with wisdom, then you can hit ice with
	   it.
-- Karate school, "When Flanders Failed" [7f23]

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Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 15:39:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: rjm@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca
Subject: CD Audio line-in under OS/2

Mike Laster <lasterm@hpserv.keh.utulsa.edu> wrote:
> 
> I am running a GusMax under OS/2 2.11, and when the system is first booted, my
> CD audio input is disabled.  The only way I have been able to enable this is
> to go into the MMPM2 CD tool, switch to digital transfer, and then switch it
> off.  I can then quit this, and load up Albatros to play CD's.  This is very
> annoying to do.  Is there an OS/2 program similar in function to ULTRINIT?
> If not, does anyone know what value I need to write to what port in order to
> turn this on?  I have the UltraSound Lowlevel Toolkit, and it makes no mention
> of how to turn on the CD input...just line in, mic in, and the main output
> signals.

Get ultra05e.zip from hobbes.nmsu.edu.  This is the first version to
fix the external line-in disabling problem.  You might also try getting
GUSmixer from the same site.

Robert.
-- 
# Robert J. Manley,  rjm@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca      #
# NTT Systems Inc., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA      #
# OS/2:OSs :: 92,93 Blue Jays:MLB :: Canada:World #

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Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 14:17:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bryon Thur <bhthur@watarts.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #13

  I just would like to thank the 42 people who flamed me after my last 
'UNSUBSCRIBE' thing.  It was a very humbling experience!! Guess I should 
have read the end of the message!  See ya... 

 Bryon Thur
 <who has now successfully unsubscribed to the mailing list>

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Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 20:30:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mike Batchelor <M.Batchelor@babylon4.clark.net>
Subject: GUS i/o ports, HMI drivers, SCSI CD's (3 replies)

Not the GUS Server once wrote...
> 
> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 05:47:07 +0100
> From: A.PAUW@ELSEVIER.nl
> Subject: GUS - Mitsumi CD-ROM - Video for Windows
> 
> [...]
> I also have a Mitsumi CD-ROM and no problems. Make a list of the
> DMA, IRQ, IO-address settings and check for different settings. 
> For the I/O address the following note: address 388 is always 
> used (ADLIB soundcard compatability). Also, the GUS uses some 
> I/O addresses at baseaddress+100H I believe. So, baseaddress 
> GUS 220H has extra I/O on 320H (note!). So don't put the Mitsumi 
> CD-ROM on 320H.

The GUS uses ports 338 and 339 (Adlib, as you said), and if set to 220H, it
uses 220H-22fH, and also 320H-32fH, i.e. it uses a range of 10H ports at the
base port setting, and 10H ports at base port+100H.  If you have your GUS
set to 230H, it will conflict with an Adaptec or other SCSI at 330H, even
before you load MegaEm, and even if you move the SCSI to 334H, so be
careful.

> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 13:09:55 -0400
> From: AdvGravis@aol.com
> Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #16
> 
> The following games listed are games that use the HMI drivers without GUS
> support (they cut the game before HMI updated their drivers):
> 
> Theme Park
> Dark Legions
> FPS Baseball
> Aces of the Deep
> 
> A Dark Legions patch has been released by SSI. I would suggest you email
> Dynamix and ask them if a patch will be released that  includes updated sound
> drivers.

If HMI is so much better than AIL, why do we still have to wait for patches
from the game vendors so it will work with the GUS HMI drivers?

Riddle me that one, Batman.

> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 21:42:59 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Truong Long Nguyen <vtruong@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
> Subject: SCSI CDROMS
> 
> Maybe its already been asked but can I hook up a scsi cdrom to my gus?

No.

> There is a 50pin connection there. Oh, it might be helpful since

Where?  Near the end?  That's for an IDE-type CD ROM; Panasonic, I believe.

-- 
M.Batchelor@babylon4.clark.net

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Date: Mon, 24 Oct 94 16:54:48 EDT
From: ivan@molson.ho.att.com (Ivan Strom)
Subject: Re: GUS MIDI controllers and bankswitching

Albert Pauw asked in a previous digest:

>> And how about bankswitching? The bankmanager can do it. As far
>> as I can check it doesn't use the GS standard of Roland (which
>> is becomming a widely accepted one). Using controller #0 plus
>> the usual Program Change. Would be nice to have a similar bank
>> switching scheme and bank management. Bank 1 (Roland counts
>> from 1-128) is the General MIDI bank, and Bank 128 is the MT-32
>> bank.

What I have found is that the current windows drivers DO support
bankswitching, but do not support incremental patch loading,
thus only one bank may be specified (with fallback to bank 0 for
patches not in the specified bank).  Thus, for example, a sequencer
could call midiOutCachePatches with a bank of 128 (127?) to get a MT-32
mapping if someone wrote the correct mapping into ultrasnd.ini.

The problem is that a sequencer needs to know what bank to request.
If, for example, I ask for bank 128 on channel 1, but don't specify
a bank for channel 2 (or specify a different bank number), what should
the sequencer assume?  Even within a single channel, what should the
sequencer assume if the bank is changed in the middle of a piece?

Proposal:
1) The "correct" solution would be for Gravis/Forte to implement incremental
   patch loading (i.e. not to treat a MIDI_CACHE_BESTFIT as a clear and
   reload, but rather as an append), so that patches from multiple banks
   could be loaded.
2) An expedient would be for sequencers to assume that the first non-zero bank
   encountered for melodics (and separately for drum channel 10) becomes the
   "controlling" bank, and is used for the midiOutCachePatches call.
3) Sequencer authors incorporate the bank arguments.  On an interim basis
   (until proposal 1 is done, and I have no idea if Gravis even plans to do #1 -
   any comment from Gravis) the bank arguments could be set either by
   using the expedient suggested in proposal 2, a sequencer setup screen
   allowing input of bank arguments, or a sequencer specific string or sysex.
   Any opinions here?  Any sequencer authors willing to implement something
   like this?

   Ivan Strom

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Date: 25 Oct 1994 04:11:04 GMT
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Subject: Mail Delivery Status

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Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 23:17:03 -0400
From: Daniel LeBlanc <leblanc@info.polymtl.ca>
Subject: MEGAEM and EMM incompatibility

> From: Ryan Baker <rynbaker@freenet.columbus.oh.us>
> Subject: Armada and native GUS
> ...
> Besides this MEGA-EM
> refuses to run on my computer because of EMM incompatibility.  I use QEMM
> 7.04, STAC 4.0, and DOS 6.0.  Any ideas?
  
 
MegaEm used to work fine for me on my i386DX33 with QEMM 7.04 
but when i got my i486DX66 with the VERY SAME software 
configuration than i had this EMM incompatibility.
What i do is use multiple config and use EMM386 when i know 
i'll use MegaEm.
 
BTW QEMM 7.5 didn't solve the case with EMM incompatibility...
 
As earlier-on . Any ideas ? / 
 
short-sign: -dan     (!)

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Date: Mon, 24 Oct 94 12:34:11 -0700
From: Fred Handloser <fredh@hpcvusd.cv.hp.com>
Subject: Re: my Power Chords rhythm editor is gone

 >I tried to use Power Chords tonight and the rhythm editor was gone.
 >I then brought up the Power Chords demo and saw the rhythm editor
 >but when I clicked on the icon the icon disappeared and the rhythm
 >editor disappeared from the demo as well.

This may help others.   I got my rhythm editor back.  I still don't
know exactly what happened but it seems like Power Chords had
saved my session with the rhythm editor window off screen so when
I used the "windows" menu to put this window on top it still did
not show up.   What I did that seems to have fix this was to close
Power Chords and open Power Chords demo.   I did a single click on
the rhythm editor icon to get the icon menu and then "maximized"
the window.   This brought the window on screen.   Then I exited
Power Chords demo and started Power Chords again.  The rhythm editor
window was then on screen and usable.  

Does Power Chords store configuration info about a session in the
executable or in a file somewhere?

Fred Handloser
Corvallis, Oregon

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Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 23:38:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Seymour <yaga@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Myst?

This might be in the faq (*still* wading through that 130K digest from 
the other day...), but:

	Has anyone gotten Myst to work?  It's not on the g-list, and I 
assumed that since it was going through windog, it would be alright.  Uh 
uh.  Total system lockup.   If I choose the making of Myst movie, it 
freezes and I have to hard reboot.  If I choose the game, the screen 
blackens, and something starts to come up, then an ungodly racket comes 
from the gus and another hard boot is in order.

Help!  Please!

My system:

AMD 486/67
8 meg RAM
2x Phillips CD-ROM
Windog 3.11
Dos 6.2
Gus rev 2.4 (yep, an oldie but a goodie)
Midi Irq: 11  Digital fx:  5  DMA:  1

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance!

chris
yaga@u.washington.edu

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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 94 16:18:14 +0100
From: stoyanov@physique.ens.fr (STOYANOV)
Subject: Need GUS MAX for 200$ in PARIS

Hi All of You,

Does the Hell any one know where
from I can find a GUS MAX for a
normal prise about 200$ IN PARIS.
The sheapest I found was in FNAC
for 1700FFR /more then 300$!!!/

Thanks alot for any ninformation.

Regards Simeon

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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 14:54:29 -1000 (GMT-10:00)
From: Paul Murgatroyd <s1114@kowande.Bond.edu.au>
Subject: Panasonic 563 drive..

Well folks, I failed to get the Panasonic 563 working, so I took it back 
and got the Mitsumi FX001-D drive, and now I am as happy as can be, with 
a working CD-ROm drive and all :-)

===============================================================================
Paul Murgatroyd                            E-Mail : s1114@kowande.Bond.edu.au
Student Residence                     : dreamer@rip.it.Bond.edu.au 
Bond University                IRC    : MouseTrap 
Gold Coast, 4229, AUSTRALIA                Phone  : +61-75-954-649  
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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 07:55:01 +1000 (EST)
From: "Jason L. Williams" <n1459562@student.fit.qut.edu.au>
Subject: Pro-Pats v3

Has ProPats v3 been validated yet?  It seems to only be on the submissions 
directories and not in very full versions (i.e. 3 of the 19 files).

Can someone upload the full versions on ftp.mpx.com.au please!!!

Has anyone who lives in Australia ftpeed it yet?  If you have and you 
live in Australia would you be willing to copy it onto some disks if I 
sent them to you and gave you the postage to send it back?

Thanks,

-Jason

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Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 14:12:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Doug Whittier <COMPTEC93063@camins.Camosun.BC.CA>
Subject: ProPats 3, Where Are You...

Greeting, All!
Minor cross-posting action happenin' here. Pardon the redundancy.
I have been frantically trying to find pp3-1 thru pp3-19.zip: these are the 
third distribution of ProPatches. I've done Archie searchwes that claim 
they're at ftp.bla.bla.bla, and it turns out that that site is just mirroring 
somebody else, who has only got version 2.  Will somebody pleeeeeze 
tell me where I can find these things, assuming they even exist? 

BTW - Anybody out there like DOOM? Anybody wanna play DOOM in a taxi? Try 
Quarantine. Yum!!

Cheers.

Doug Whittier

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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 07:18:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: James Lantos <jlantos@DGS.dgsys.com>
Subject: Question

Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 21:11:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: James Lantos <jlantos@DGS>
Subject: midi question
To: gus-general@mail.orst.edut
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I know the manual says no playing the keyboard to record
in recording session, buuuuuuut......does anyone know a quick
and dirty way to record stuff using the keyboard in recording session?


jl


(anything to avoid spending the money to buy the dreaded midi box)

also....I have a midi box from a macintosh with midi outs and ins
except the socket for the cable to the computer is for a macintosh
circular eight pin cable.   Can such a cable be fitted at the
other end with a fifteen pin to work successfully?  How
would such a 15 pin head be attached to such an 8 pin
macintosh cable?  (lots of funny colored wires...where to put them?)


help!

jim

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Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 23:18:17 -0400
From: Daniel LeBlanc <leblanc@info.polymtl.ca>
Subject: Re: SBOS & NHL Hockey

> From: "Christopher M. DiPierro" <cdipierr@wam.umd.edu>
> Subject: SBOS versions & NHL Hockey?
> ...
>  Am I the only one with this problem and if not, does it 
> affect other games?
 
 
I use to simply use MegaEm with no special switchs.  Sometimes 
the voice sounds jurky but the rest is fine
 
short-sign: -dan     (!)

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Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 16:29:02 GMT
From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
Subject: Some answers

>Does anyone know to which midi controllers the Windows drivers
>listen to? I asked Gravis and they don't know (?). At least the
>person who answered me didn't.

I can add 'Sustain' to the list of ones that it does already posted.

> It would be nice if Advanced Gravis release a new version of Playmidi 
> where it scans the whole MIDI file and checks the most voices ever used 
> simultaneously.  Then, it initializes the UltraSound using that many voices.

Like we keep saying, this is not possible unless you know exactly what
patches are being used. You don't finish using a voice just because
there is a 'note off' event - the note still continues to decay
according to the definition of the particular patch.

>Does anyone know how many channels Playmidi sets before playing MIDs? Or does
>it scan the MID first to find out how many channels are needed?

Can't remember, it's some middling sort of number, and NO it doesn't.
Old versions (is it in new ones?) had a debug mode (-debug?) which
produced a graphical display of which voices were playing, so you
could tell from that. There is a command line switch to set the
number of voices - is it -x (guess).

>So far, my WIndows UltraSound drivers are set to initialize the card to 
>play a maximum of 32 voices.  I recalled that I read somewhere that the 
>Windows drivers automatically reserve 2 voices for the digital playback 
>of WAV files, etc.  So, is it better if I just set the drivers to 
>initialize the card to play a maximum of 30 voices? 

I don't know if it REALLY sets 32 when you tell it to, or truncates it
to 30. Presumably if you played a WAV while a MID was playing (e.g.
a system 'ding' or whatever) then there would be a nasty interaction
if both used the same voice.
Note that the sound quality deterioriates if you set high numbers
of voices (above 14) as the sampling rate decreases. This may not
be noticeable, but it makes a lot of difference to the sound of
some patches - so don't set a high number unless you know that
you need that many simultaneous notes.

>What must i do to install 'Video for Windows'(vfw11d.exe)
>properly ? I get choppy frames and the sound just stopps after
>some time. Any ideas ?
and
>playback of .AVI files suffers from painfully choppy video.

One thing that I know can affect it is the DMA buffer size, which you
can set in the Driver setup box for the GUS driver (accessed via
control panel) (old drivers didn't have the option). The docs say
that 4096 is the max, but it also accepts 8192. For video, you
seem to have to set a SMALLER number to get smooth playback e.g.
try 4096, or 2048, or 1024. I can only assume that DMAing a large
amount hogs the machine for too long and interferes with the video.

Finally a question of my own. At some point I acquired a new better
Media Player than the one with Windows 3.1. It has more controls,
and can play e.g. embedded AVI files while still in the host
document (is this OLE2?). This is used to good effect in the
MS Dangerous Creatures CD. Does anyone know if this Media Player
came with this CD, or if not, where did it come from?

-- 
Clarke Brunt (clarke@brunt.demon.co.uk)

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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 94 8:10:34 EDT
From: "Edward Linderman" <edli@umich.edu>
Subject: Vol. 15 No. 1-9
Message-ID: <ggl6+iODfia@bfmailer.bf.umich.edu>

Where can I find Daily Digests Vol.15 numbers 1 thru 9 ??

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