Ultrasound Daily Digest     Wed Jun 23 00:07     Volume 4: Issue  22  

Today's Topics:
		 # of active voices (was horrible Harpsichord patch)
				 *** GUS & MIDI SUCK BIG TIME!!! ***
			   [GUS] Miles Drivers - Let's start a list
					  AIL and DigPak confusion.
							 AIL drivers
   Another lost registration and what you should do about yours ...
		   Best Thing About AIL (Hint : OS/2 and Games...)
							 calypso2.mid
					  DIGEST ADMIN: Don't Panic!
						  Do I use stacker?
								 EPAS
						   FTPing GUS files
					   GUS/Europe + John Smith
		 GUS: AIL/MIDPAK/DIGPAK drivers *work* with OS/2 2.1!
				 GUS : AIL/MIDPAK/DIGPAK is out now!
					 GUS: Miles drivers at epas..
						   GUS Miles Driver
				Help with 7th Guest and Miles drivers
				   Loop point in patches & UW2+AIL
					   More 1M Upgrade Problems
							Mouse problems
					   New Disks, OS/2 and GUS 
			   New Version of Windows Sound Converter?
						  Pools of Darkness?
					 problem w/ 7th Guest and AIL
							  Questions
						 Sample skips...why?
						   SOX Cheat Sheet
			  swap mix tapes for analogue synth samples
			  Tech Questions on Gravis Ultrasound (GUS)
					   The ultrasound ftp site
				  ULTRASOUND DAILY DIGEST V (2 msgs)
			   Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #21 (3 msgs)
		 Ultrasound FTP Sites - Discussion on new arrangement
				  using ultrasound as a midi sampler
				 very frustrated with 7th Guest, AIL
				   Where in the world is my 8k DRAM
					X-Wing fix (this one worked!)

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 11:36:57 +0000
From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: # of active voices (was horrible Harpsichord patch)
Message-ID: <0096E5B0.D6583B8B.10794@lsl.co.uk>

A few digests ago, I posted an item complaining about the harpsichord
patch, which had a horrible metallic noise to it.

Someone (Mike Batchelor?) responded that it was supposed to sound
like that. Now I know what a harpsichord is supposed to sound like,
and thought that Mike could not possibly be listening to the same
sound as me.

So... Thought I'd experiment with the 'number of active voices' setting
in Windows. I had previously bumped it up to 32 (after all the GUS has
all these voices, so why not use them?). When I put it back to 14,
the harpsichord was much more acceptable (so anyone who didn't believe
how horrible it was before, just try 32 active voices!). Of course
using only 14 voices, most .MIDs then miss out quite a few notes, or
cut off notes too early. How many does DOS PLAYMIDI use? My guess is
20 (or is it 24 - I can't remember) from using the -udebug option
and watching the X symbols representing a note on a particualar voice.

It's only through reading bits of the SDK documentation that I've
come to appreciate the effect of number of active voices. As I
understand it, with 14 active voices, the GUS can update each of them
at 44kHz, but as the number increases, it can only update each voice
less frequently. If the patch sample is recorded at 44kHz (as at
least some of them are), then it does this by missing out samples,
and interpolating between the remaining ones. I would guess that
this is more likely to degrade a patch with lots of high harmonics
in it, as perhaps the harpsichord does.

I would like to see the GUS manual and help files give better assistance
on this subject - there is something about using 14 voices on 386
machines (why??) (mine's a 486 DX2/50 by the way), but nothing to suggest
any ill effects of using more. I hate being told to use particular
settings without an explanation why.

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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1993 06:47:09 GMT
From: loh@shiva.trl.OZ.AU (Roger Loh)
Subject: *** GUS & MIDI SUCK BIG TIME!!! ***
Message-ID: <1993Jun22.064709.14850@trl.oz.au>

ReprintFrom: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard

Hi all.  Please help me. I know this posting is long but it had to be.

I posted this question a week ago but still have not fixed the problem.
Try this for weirdness...

I bought a GUS card (rev 2.4) two weeks back to upgrade my Soundblaster 1.5,
which sounds particularly bad under Windows 3.1 playing wavs.  I am into
MIDI and have a midi keyboard which can output on 4 channels only
(1..4).  It also uses running status mode.  Ok.  I made up a Midi
interface for the SB Midi port a year ago and it has worked fine for both
Windows and DOS SB stuff.  I tried it on the GUS.  Input didn't work.
OK, so I thought, this interface could be dodgy on the GUS, so I made the
recommended interface and tried it out.  Under DOS, it worked beautifully,
both In and Out.  I was using a program for testing Midi called
MIDITEST.EXE.  This program is available on archive.epas.utoronto.ca.
It is interrupt driven for input (I have read the code) and I used IRQ 5
for the GUS Midi interrupt number.

Now Windows 3.1  
I have tested the CakeWalk demo and WinJammr (which work with my SB MIDI).
When using both these programs with the GUS midi port as the selected
input device, I can get midi output working fine, as well as the GUS
Synth but I CANNOT get midi input working at all!  Nothing happens
when I record.  I have also tried a program called MIDVUE.EXE (from
EPAS)  and this shows all the midi input bytes coming from the SB port,
but nothing at all when the GUS midi input is selected. (Yes I swapped
the cables!) Also the Patch Manager does not echo the midi through to the 
GUS synth (both with and without Midi Thru selected).  Because the DOS midi 
input works I know the hardware to be OK.  So I thought it must be either...

1) incorrect Windows setup in system.ini    or
2) dud Windows GUS midi driver.

I reinstalled the original GUS s/w (vers. 2.05) onto my machine. No
difference.  I tried many combinations of IRQs and removed all
references to the SB drivers as well as removing the SB itself. No
difference.  I checked that the correct driver file was in the windows/system
directory  (ultmport.drv was there OK).  I checked that my Windows
system.ini file had matching setup info to my autoexec.bat file GUS
variable.  Irq 5 for MIDI int, Irq 11 for GF1 int, base port 240h,
all DMA etc, everything matched fine.  

I also wrote a Borland Pascal program which would echo midi commands from
an input device to the GUS synth.  It worked fine when the SB midi input
device was used but nothing happens for the GUS input midi device.  I
traced the windows messages being passed and found that no MM_MIM_DATA
message is generated when the GUS midi input is used.  But it does for
the SB. Arrghh!  Maybe the interrupt is not being processed?

What's wrong!?

I thought the midi driver must be dud so I downloaded the new GUS
install disks (ver 2.06) from EPAS and re-installed.  I was disappointed
to find that the same Windows drivers are supplied, and you guessed it..
they didn't work either.

I have exhausted all avenues, so it seems, and am just about fed up
completely with the damned thing.  PLEASE somebody let me know if/how they
have the Windows driver for the GUS midi input port succesfully
working with a midi device.  Without knowing this, I almost believe that
the Windows midi driver from Gravis simply doesn't work.

In desperation,
Roger Loh

P.S. The GUS is a great card besides MIDI Input. 
_______________________________________________________________________
 __      Roger Loh                               Phone: (03)   253 6373   
|  \|    Integrated Communications Services      Fax  : (03)   253 6352   
|__/|    Telecom Research Laboratories            
| \ |    PO. Box 249 Clayton 3168                Int'l: +61 3  253 6373
|  \|___      Australia                         E-mail: r.loh@trl.oz.AU
_______________________________________________________________________

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Date: 21 Jun 1993 07:35:39 +0000 (GMT)
From: a0781684@mfs02.cc.monash.edu.au (THADDAEUS KONG)
Subject: [GUS] Miles Drivers - Let's start a list
Message-ID: <a0781684.2.740648139@mfs02.cc.monash.edu.au>

--- Forwarded message follows ---
From: int757n@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr. Thaddaeus)
Subject: [GUS] Miles Drivers - Let's start a list
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 07:09:33 GMT
	What say we start a list of games that are using the Miles drivers?
Well, if nobody wants the task, then I volunteer but don't be surprised if
the list doesn't get out ];->.

	Okay people, mail whatever games you know that are supporting the
Miles drivers (don't quote the games listed in the readme file please) to
teddy@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au and I'll try to maintain a list.

	Better yet, if you can, please include instructions on how to get 
the darn thing working if the normal "just copy over them" method doesn't
work.

	Having said that, the rest is up to you.
-- 
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	   Why is it that everytime I write out an answer the question
is wrong?
		- Thaddaeus Kong a.k.a int757n@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au

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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1993 17:01:45 +1000 (EST)
From: int757n@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr. Thaddaeus)
Subject: AIL and DigPak confusion.
Message-ID: <9306220701.AA13485@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au>

	Hi, I'm a little confused with what DigPak and AIL are. From
gusail96.zip I presume those *.adv files are the AIL files and gf166.com
is the DigPak file. Okay, so far so good, so, what is a MIDPAK?

	Happy GUShing.

 -----------------------------------------------------------------
	   Why is it that everytime I write out an answer the question
is wrong?
		- Thaddaeus Kong a.k.a int757n@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au

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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 93 21:25 GMT0BST-1
From: Paul Kokis <scratcher@cix.compulink.co.uk>
Subject: AIL drivers
Message-ID: <memo.350493@cix.compulink.co.uk>

I saw John Smiths message about the release of the AIL drivers, and 
now I see you're all talking about them, but where's the file and 
what's it called? The end of Johns msg got truncated just as he was 
about to list the sites etc. 
Heeelllp! 

Scratcher, AKA Peekay  

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peace and wellbeing to my fellow GUSers.............We've seen the 
light and heard the true sound of perfection!
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 93 10:52:33 -0700
From: Bob Beck <rbk@sequent.com>
Subject: Another lost registration and what you should do about yours ...
Message-ID: <9306211752.AA29610@eng2.sequent.com>

I've been waiting patiently for my upgrade disks (I've had my GUS since last
December, registered it very soon thereafter), and nothing has arrived yet
(this is from Portland, Oregon).

Based on some comments in 6/21's digest, I called Gravis ((800)663-8558, and
just hang on the line) and verified they never received my registration card
either.  Turns out there is a possibility lots of registration cards were
lost due to their address change last November; if you bought a card with old
addresses on the registration card (I guess I did), then the mail system may
not have forwarded you card to the new address.  After some venting (I'm
really pissed about this), I got the info:

Send a letter asserting your registration was lost, and include your receipt
for your GUS and/or a xerox of the UPC codes from the box to:

	1790 Midway Lane
	Bellingham, Washington  98226

The next mailing of the disks will be in about 3 weeks.

Lord knows what you're supposed to do if you've thrown away the box and the
receipt (I didn't, but I'll have to dig for them).

[FLAME ON]
It isn't *my* fault that Gravis moved and lost my registration card.  This
situation makes me angry; the card would have be largely useless these past 6
months if I didn't have ftp access to the internet, and now I don't even
receive the upgrade disks I'm entitled to without more fuss on my part and
more waiting (likely a month or so).  If I didn't expect so much good to come
from support for the card I'd sell it and buy an (ugh) SB-something.
[FLAME OFF]

						- Bob (rbk@sequent.com)

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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 93 1:49:29 PDT
From: boh@sfu.ca (Changhao Boh)
Subject: Best Thing About AIL (Hint : OS/2 and Games...)
Message-ID: <9306210849.AA08164@kits.sfu.ca>

heh heh.  The best thing about these AIL drivers from Gravis is that I
can now play games with sound in an OS/2 2.1 Dos session.

Hong Kong Mahjong Pro works great in OS/2 !  Man, it even works in a
Window session with GUS sound now !

Good Health.

Changhao
boh@sfu.ca

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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1993 10:53:57 -0500 (EST)
From: sjm@se01.elk.miles.com (Scott Mark)
Subject: calypso2.mid
Message-ID: <9306221553.AA00694@se01.elk.miles.com>

Has anybody had any luck with this?

Media player, at least, will play the thing.  don't know if it drops anything

playmidi sends all sorts of debug messages about needing room for 1 wave,
while it plays the thing.

recording session reads calypso2.mid, splits a track, then while it is
doing auto-notating dies with a General Protection Fault in module user.exe
at address 0019:0734.

Other than that, it sounds pretty cool.

Scott Mark      (219) 262-7452      8:00 - 4:30 EST
sjm@se01.elk.miles.com

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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 93 17:20:33 CDT
From: ddebry@itchy (Dave DeBry)
Subject: DIGEST ADMIN: Don't Panic!
Message-ID: <9306222320.AA00998@itchy>

	No, you didn't get a digest yesterday.

	This digest has all of yesterday's (June 21) and today's (June
22) posts.  

	Yes, you're still on the list.

	:)

-- 
Dave  ddebry@ debry@   \
DeBry dsd.    peruvian. | "I have a plan so cunning you could put a 
	  es.     cs.utah.  |  tail on it and call it a weasel."
	  com     edu      /

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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 16:24:33 +0501 (EDT)
From: Gunnar Swanson <gunnar@gibbs.oit.unc.edu>
Subject: Do I use stacker?
Message-ID: <Pine.3.05.9306211633.A12623-8100000@gibbs.oit.unc.edu>

To the guy who asked if I use Stacker.  My feeling on disk compression is
just to check the NO box.  

Thanx Y'all

Gunnar Swanson

P.S.  Read closer X-wing on my machine works fine.

P.S.S. Do the ail drivers work with X-wing?



end.

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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 93 00:09:33 EDT
From: dulimart@cps.msu.edu (Hansye S. Dulimarta)
Subject: EPAS
Message-ID: <9306220409.AA08995@pixel.cps.msu.edu>

   Date: Sun, 20 Jun 93 13:14:31 EDT
   From: Stephen Ferguson <FERGUSOS@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>

   I could not reach archive.epas.utoronto.ca.  I decided to try, then,
   the numerical address (ie. 128.100.160.36) and found that the FTP
   address was actually klingon.epas.utoronto.ca.  Perhaps you should
   change the address at the bottom of the digest to reflect this.

   sjf

No need to change it! archive.epas.utoronto.ca is the alias of klingon.
IMHO, "archive" seems to reflect the site's functionality (archiving).

Hans.

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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 93 12:29:18 CDT
From: ddebry@itchy (Dave DeBry)
Subject: FTPing GUS files
Message-ID: <9306211829.AA14676@itchy>

	It seems that we've got several sites mirroring the
archive.epas site for all the GUS software.  We're trying to get all
the ftp sites organized together, so Thomas Wong and I thought we
would start a small, low-volume mailing list for the people running
these mirror sites, or people running ftp-by-mail sites for
archive.epas.  

	If you are interested in working with us, please respond to me
(ddebry@dsd.es.com) directly, and I'll put you on the list.

	This list is only for people actually running the ftp sites.
If you are just downloading the files, please don't mail me.  We'll
still keep up the periodic postings of new files at archive.epas.

	Thanks!

-- 
Dave  ddebry@ debry@   \ "Do lawyers not defend people they know are
DeBry dsd.    peruvian. | as guilty as sin?  Do doctors not treat people
	  es.     cs.utah.  | they know are going to die?  Do teachers not
	  com     edu      /  teach kids they know are as dumb as stumps?"

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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 93 00:25:00 +0200
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: GUS/Europe + John Smith
Message-ID: <9306212225.AA22472@rune.lysator.liu.se>

In UDD #4.19 John Vernooij <J.Vernooij@earth.ruu.nl> wrote:

> And now for something completely different: did anyone in Europe 
> who, like me, send their registration card as instructed to Logitech in 
> Switzerland, already receive the 2.06 disks? It's obvious: I didn't and 
> although I FTP'd the 2.06L disks, I would like to receive the additional 
> Recording Studio and Powerchords software.

I sent my card to Logitech in Switzerland, and I got my upgrade disks
about two weeks ago (Way to go Gravis!) here in Sweden. The box was sent
from Amsterdam (as a couple of other fellow europeans have stated earlier)
so I guess you should try to contact Gravis to check if they've recieved
your registration card or not.

Note to John Smith: In case you read about my 7, oh 8 re-installations
------------------  of the v2.01 disks just to get the SETGUS.EXE to work
					in earlier digests - v2.06 is no different. It still
					won't run. Ye olde v1.22 setup program still runs fine
					though (when using that old version (yup, I have to
					have two autoexec/config + two ultrasound software
					versions on my HD))... And I've also yet to see a
					reply from you about this problem. That's the only let-
					down I've experienced w/Gravis..

 -/- Erik
]p

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Date: 19 Jun 1993 07:58:45 GMT
From: robs@u.washington.edu (Robert Suh)
Subject: GUS: AIL/MIDPAK/DIGPAK drivers *work* with OS/2 2.1!
Message-ID: <1vugvlINNama@news.u.washington.edu>

ReprintFrom: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard

Hi Fellow Gussers,

Well, just got off calling Oregon to grab those AIL/MIDPAK/DIGPAK driver
for the GUS(ULTRAMID).  And I just finished testing it out in the only game
I have the supports the *.ADV standard, The 7th Guest.  Boy was I surprised
that it actually worked! :)  I tested it out on DOS, and it sounded wonderful,
I'm gonna try with the '-c' paramater, to see if it can speed it up along.

Anyways, on to the meat of the post.  The UltraMID drivers *WORKS* with
OS/2 2.1!  Finally, I won't have to sell my GUS(And to think, I was 
contemplating on trading it in for a PUS-16. <g>)
Not to mention that it sounds a heck of a lot better than SBOS ever will.

P.S. UltraMID worked under OS/2 2.1 with The 7th Guest, running off of
a Texel DM3024 w/ Trantor SCSI adapter.  Your mileage might vary.
But I'm pretty sure it should work with most everything the README file
stated.

P.P.S.  A BIG Thanks goes to Gravis for continually supporting us *old* 
customers.  I personally haven't met a company that gives out so much
free stuff from a $130 product.  (Hell, I've recieved more free stuff
from Gravis, than my brother has with Honda!  And his toy cost $16,000!)
(Recoding Session, PowerChords, Ver2.x Disks, GUS3D, GUSSDK, SBOS Updates,
UltraMID, and on, and on, and on, . . .)
(Well, maybe not exactly free stuff, but great support!)

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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1993 04:02:55 GMT
From: int757n@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr. Thaddaeus)
Subject: GUS : AIL/MIDPAK/DIGPAK is out now!
Message-ID: <int757n.740462575@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au>

ReprintFrom: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard

Gravis has released the long awaited AIL/DIGPAK/MIDPAK drivers.  They
are currently at V0.96 and are still in Beta.  We have been using them
for well over a month and should have worked out all major bugs.  What
follows is a description of these drivers and a list of places you may
download them at.

John Smith - SysOp Advanced Gravis

PS: The 7th Guest sounds REAL hot with these drivers

1.1.0 Audio Interface Libraries (AIL) - MIDPAK/DIGPAK
	  ===============================================

 The Audio Interface Libraries (AIL), (we know them as "Miles" Drivers)
 and DIGPAK are a set of interface drivers which enable software
 developers (mainly game developers) to integrate sound capabilities
 into their programs.  Once a developer has integrated his program into
 the AIL drivers the application will work with all sound cards on the
 market who provide AIL drivers. The AIL's provide support for MIDI as
 well as the Digital Sound interface of an audio card. These library
 drivers allow the developers to use UltraSound's wavetable synthesizer
 and allow them to utilize the UltraSound's digital interface to play 8
 or 16 bit audio in either mono or stereo mode.

 Advanced Gravis & FORTE have recently designed and released to Miles
 Design and The Audio Solution Inc. the AIL and DIGPAK routines for the
 UltraSound card which provide the mechanism for developers to easily
 intergrate with, and use UltraSound's features.  Developers who have
 the AIL's and/or DIGPAK can get the driver updates and intergrate
 their programs into the UltraSound.  The AIL/DIGPAK updates will also
 be available through the Advaced Gravis BBS or any of our nodes.
 Please refer to GRAVNODE.TXT for a complete list. Developers who do
 not have the AILs can get them from Miles Design and/or DIGPAK from
 The Audio Solution Inc.

 Developers who want to take full advantage of UltraSound's advanced
 features; and do not want to pay either Miles Design or The Audio
 Solution Inc. license fees, Advanced Gravis and FORTE have a stand
 alone driver as well.  These drivers use a Terminate and Stay
 Resident (TSR) utility called UltraMID.  Developers utilizing this
 TSR are able to do digital playback at 8 or 16 bits up to 44.1kHz
 sample rate.  Also, this allows programmers to use all of the
 UltraSound's 32 digital voices as well as the superior wavetable
 synthesizer.

 These drivers are another level of support for the UltraSound card
 developers.  Both the AIL and DIGPAK interfaces provide a means
 for programmers to easily design software for many sound cards using
 only one API while Advanced Gravis/FORTE's stand alone TSR allows
 developers to take advantage of UltraSound's more advanced features.


.                        Authorized Gravis BBS Nodes List
.                                    as of
.                                June 16, 1993

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Date: 19 Jun 1993 07:24:54 +0300
From: larry@clinet.fi (Lasse Hero)
Subject: GUS: Miles drivers at epas..
Message-ID: <1vu4emINNfq0@clinet.fi>

ReprintFrom: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard

Beta version, /pub/pc/ultrasound/submit/gusail96.zip.

Anybody interested? Probably not....

-- 
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! Lasse Hero, Kannelj{rventie 6 B, 02130 Espoo, Finland      !
! (90) 455 1074 ! larry@clinet.fi / larry@purkki.apu.fi      !
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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1993 11:07:45 -0400
From: KWAN  RICHARD SIK YIU <kwanr@ecf.toronto.edu>
Subject: GUS Miles Driver
Message-ID: <93Jun22.110747edt.4025@skule.ecf.toronto.edu>

I've just tested AIL onto T2029, it WORKS perfectly at the introductions!
But I am not too sure if there is any music during the missio, I heard 
digital effects, but they are not so clear. Anyway I even tried to set the
soundcard setting to SoundBlaster and Roland. The sound with SB setting only,
sounds clear (except the speech) and soft. The sound with SB and Roland 
sounds very impressive, the introduction music is totally different with
SB setting only. It is worth to try!

I also had Manic Mansion II, but the game wouldn't let me use the AIL driver.
It stucks at the beginning everytime. Is there any new game that comes out
recently and support Miles driver? I really want to test it on more games.

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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 93 01:13:23 -0700
From: rchoi@netcom.com (Raymond Y. Choi)
Subject: Help with 7th Guest and Miles drivers
Message-ID: <9306220813.AA24140@netcom2.netcom.com>

I can't get 7th Guest to work with the GUS using the beta Miles drivers.
It keeps on returning "Error: pcm sound hardware not find at port/irq in 
groovie.ini."  The gf1digi.adv and the gf1midi.adv have been copied to the
proper directory.  Any suggestions?

CONFIG.SYS
	dos=high,umb
	devicehigh=himem.sys
	devicehigh=emm386.exe ram 4096
	lastdrive=g:
	files=30
	buffers=25
	devicehigh=c:\driver\mouse.sys
	devicehigh=c:\driver\fdcd.sys /d:mscd000

AUTOEXEC.BAT
	c:\24xmode monitor
	path c:;c:\dos;c:\utl\ultrasnd
	set ultrasnd=220,7,7,11,7
	set ultradir=c:\utl\ultrasnd
	c:\ult\ultrasnd\ultrinit.exe
	set blaster=a220 i7 d1 t1
	loadhigh c:\coreldrv\corelcdx /m:15 /e:3 /l:e /d:mscd000

GROOVIE.INI
	;
	;ini File for The Seventh Guest
	;
	;(C) Copyright 1992 Trilobyte, Inc. and Virgin Games
	;
	[main]
	VideoCard=Paradise
	midi=GeneralMidi
	pcm=SoundBlaster
	svga=on
	ProgDir=D:\games\guest\
	DataDir=E:\t7g\
	Recommended=SVGA
	CPU=386dx
	FreeMem=567
	CDbench=295

	[GeneralMidi]
	irq=7
	port=220
	xmi=gf1midi.adv

	[SoundBlaster
	irq=7
	port=220
	;pcm=sbdig.adv
	pcm=gf1digi.adv
	dma=1

(Note, I've also tried using "default" for all the irq, port and dma settings
like in the groovie.ini file included with the drivers, but that didn't work
either.)


				Ray

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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1993 12:37:21 +0930 (CST)
From: SCARMAN@hfrd.dsto.gov.au (Gavin)
Subject: Loop point in patches & UW2+AIL
Message-ID: <930622123721.ce64@hfrd.dsto.gov.au>

How can I set the loop point in the patches ie. which program do I use and how 
do I do it if it's not included in the docs eg . patch.exe.

What did Gravis use to write their patches? It seems to me that this is one 
piece of software that all would be game developers would need and patch.exe 
with the SDK has no doc's (yes I know about F1=help) and seems very basic 
indeed.

On a side note does anyone know how the instruments are sampled for .MODs? 
Hardware wise I mean.

Has anyone got UW2 to work with the AIL? I tried with the .96 version but I know 
it's got bugs, works for a little while then the game quits to DOS.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 22 Jun 93 21:28:50 -0600
From: davids@hwcae.az.honeywell.com
Subject: More 1M Upgrade Problems
Message-ID: <9306230328.AA20772@cologne.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM>

							   
I'm having trouble with my 1M upgrade, ordered from Elkco.  They sent me Sanyo
LC324256BP-70 DRAMs.  GUSDRAM starts to fail after 90,000 on bank 2, after 60,000
on bank 3, and about 65,000 on bank 4, giving me a total of 480,860.

I was static-protected, so shouldn't be any problem there.

I made sure that all were seated properly in their sockets.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 12:05:40 -0400
From: John Morton <jmorton@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Mouse problems
Message-ID: <93Jun21.120541edt.43249-3@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>

I have a mouse problem.  First my config.

486/33
GUS w/1MEG with new software version(?) 
ATI ultra card w/1MEG
mouse on the ATI card.

When I use the mouse driver that came with the ATI card everything(maybe)
works but I have very pour control of my mouse when in certain apps.
When I use microsofts mouse driver (ver 8?) my system hangs.
When I had ultrasounds 1.02 software installed the mirosoft mouse
driver worked fine(again, maybe)

What I have tried...
Changed ultrasound configuration multiple times, system still hangs
when trying to load the microsoft mouse driver.(including default config)
(Never changed the port address)

Took out ALL ultrasound stuff from my config.sys and autoexec.bat and
tried the microsoft mouse.  Result : system hung.  (This really confused
me)

To change the ultrasound config I just have to do the software changes?
(For port address I have to change jumpers but what about interupts?)

Sorry some of the information is not very clear, I am posting this
from work so I don't have all the information with me.

=================
John, CS241 Tutor
jmorton@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 21 Jun 93 07:53:08 EDT
From: tmcreek@eos.ncsu.edu
Subject: New Disks, OS/2 and GUS 
Message-ID: <9306211153.AA23252@c00100-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu>

Well, I got my new disks.  Not bad, Gravis!  One small complaint.  Once
again, the install left a directory with a crazy name.  That's being picky
tho. 

Hats off to Forte for the Miles drivers.  As everyone has heard, The 7th
Guest is INCREDIBLE.  Now I wish I hadn't solved it so fast.  I also got
Serpent Isle to work, but the game quits after the AWESOME intro and says
that it failed to init the sound hardware?  Any fixes planned?

Also, to the person wanting to get the GUS to work under OS/2: The GUS
requires more than just enhanced mode, it requires VxD support for the 
.386 file.  Now we need either a standard mode driver or Win-OS/2 VxD 
support (already on the way.)

--
tmcreek@eos.ncsu.edu               \          These views respresent no one.
creek-tm@aza.csc.ncsu.edu           \               Even I won't claim them. 
 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
	 "Yeah, you write a good line or two, but can you spel?" - Webster

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 22 Jun 93 09:32:57 EDT
From: cg-atla!yfandes!pasky (Bob Pasky)
Subject: New Version of Windows Sound Converter?
Message-ID: <9306221332.AA23134@yfandes.agfa.com     >

Last week I complained to John Smith that the Windows Sound Converter
gets a GPF after converting a .SND to .WAV file and causes Windows to
crash. This is what he replied:
>Look for WCONV102.ZIP on the Internet.  Or you can download it from our
>board.
>
>John

Since I'm not the only one who has experienced this crash, I'm posting
his answer... but I can't find this file anywhere on the Gravis BBS.
Is this file available somewhere? Is it on epas?

Thanks,
Bob

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 20:33:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: elminstr@hudlink.hoboken.nj.us (J.J. Pierson)
Subject: Pools of Darkness?
Message-ID: <cqsi6B1w165w@hudlink.hoboken.nj.us>

Anybody figure out how to use the AIL/DIGIPAK things with Pools of 
Darkness by SSI. It does not have those drivers and the listing says it 
uses the Digipak.

---
J.J. Pierson               Internet EMail: elminstr@hudlink.hoboken.nj.us
							Prodigy Email: TVFF82B

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 12:13:06 -0500 (EST)
From: sjm@se01.elk.miles.com (Scott Mark)
Subject: problem w/ 7th Guest and AIL
Message-ID: <9306211713.AA04593@se01.elk.miles.com>

I did the following to try and use the new AIL (Miles) drivers with the
7th Guest and each time I tried I recieved the same "pcm not responding"
both without SBOS and then with SBOS loaded.

I have had no problems up until now, and I use the default configuration
for base address, IRQs, etc.  I have a 1M GUS card.

1.  mkdir \id\t7g\oldadv
2.  copy *.adv oldadv
3.  copy groovie.ini oldadv
4.  edit groovie.ini so the driver names match the AIL one, not changing IRQ
	no dice, with or without SBOS loaded
5.  edit groovie.ini so the IRQs are all "default" instead of what I use
	no dice, with or without SBOS loaded
6.  copy AIL groovie.ini into the \id\t7g directory and try again
	no dice, with or without SBOS loaded


Does anyone have any cookbook method for how to get t7g to use the AIL
drivers?  I get the impression I shouldn't be using MIDPAK for this, so
I haven't tried that at all.

I'm very hot to try and get the "hot" sound that John promises.

Scott
Scott Mark      (219) 262-7452      8:00 - 4:30 EST
sjm@se01.elk.miles.com

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1993 01:40:30 -0700
From: Tarik Abi-Karam <tarik@magic.cs.unlv.edu>
Subject: Questions
Message-ID: <9306220848.AA16258@orca.es.com>

 
	   Where can I get ahold of some docs (if there is any) for the
GUSMOD 2.11 ?
   
	   Also, is there any better MOD players around?  If so, please 
recommend a few.
 
tarik@cs.unlv.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 22 Jun 93 03:23:06 -0400
From: Macon N. Pegram <csc8mnp@cabell.vcu.edu>
Subject: Sample skips...why?
Message-ID: <9306220723.AA16370@cabell.vcu.edu>

Boy am I mad!
I have just upgraded my GUS to 1 meg and installed the latest upgrades (2.06)
which I received in the post last week. I ran the new playfile.exe and
while the new interface isn't great, it's far better than the command line
playfile of old. So I hooked up my CD player to theline in, enabled it on
the panel, chosse the 44.1 kHz and stereo options and sampled a few seconds
of one of my CD's (a verse and chorus of a song). When I went back to play it
out, there were 'skips' in my sample file, that is the sample would jump from
one point to the next, omitting pieces of the song... what the **** is the deal
here? This is one of the two reasons I got this and if sampling doesn't work
on this card correctly, it is fairly useless in the long run to me!
If I am missing some obvious point, please, by all means, point it out and make me look like a fool, but please, let me know how to fix this!!!

Ps. Has anyone gotten the Gravis MIDIbox yet? If so, how doesit work? Is it
riddled with errors and oversights like that rest of their products?

Unhappily...
the grinch

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 21:44:01 GMT
From: thinman@netcom.com (Technically Sweet)
Subject: SOX Cheat Sheet
Message-ID: <thinmanC8zr1D.1z9@netcom.com>

ReprintFrom: alt.binaries.sounds.d,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,alt.binaries.sounds.misc.d

Hi-

Here is the long-promised SOX cheat sheet.  Every command
invocation you ever wanted to know.

--------------------snippity-snip-snip-----------------------

This is a cheat sheet of examples using SOX to
do various common sound file conversions.

Notes:

The SUN examples all assume the old SUN voice-quality 8khz u-law
hardware.  If the .AU file doesn't have a proper header,
you'll need the second command line.  If you don't want the
old format, you can remove the "-r 8012 -U -b" in front of 
"file.au" when converting TO SUN .au files.  Note that
you'll need newer SUN sound hardware to successfully
play these files.

VOC has a similar problem.  All VOC files have a correct
header, but older hardware (and software) only knows
about samples made of unsigned bytes.  
VOC files come from the Sound Blaster and compatible
cards on the IBM PC.  These cards can play many 
sample rates; not quite a continuous spectrum
but close enough.

The Mac sound hardware traditionally has been capable of
sample rates 5012, 1025, and 22050, but only with unsigned
bytes.  Recent models support CD-quality sound.

SUN .au to Mac .snd:

	sox file.au -r 11025 -t ub file.snd
or:
	sox -t ul -r 8012 file.au -r 11025 -t ub file.snd

When you copy the file to the Mac, you'll have to set
the sample rate by hand.

Mac .snd to SUN .au

	sox -r 11025 -t ub file.snd -r 8012 -U -b file.au

The Mac file might also be at sample rates 5012, 22050, or 44100.

PC .voc to SUN .au

	sox file.voc -r 8012 -U -b file.au

SUN .au to PC .voc 

	sox file.au file.voc 
or:
	sox -r 8012 -t ul file.au file.voc 

SUN .au to WAV - without clipping
	
	sox file.au -s -w file.wav
or:
	sox -t ul -r 8012 file.au -s -w file.wav

WAV to SUN .au
	
	sox file.wav -r 8012 -U -b file.au

WAV to VOC
	sox file.wav -u -b file.voc

VOC to WAV
	sox file.voc file.wav

--------------------snippity-snip-snip-----------------------
-- 

Lance Norskog
thinman@netcom.com
Data is not information is not knowledge is not wisdom.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 21 Jun 93 16:10:46 BST
From: "James Andrews, User Support" <james@sol1.east-london.ac.uk>
Subject: swap mix tapes for analogue synth samples
Message-ID: <5873.9306211510@uk.ac.uel.sol1>

Hello, I would like some nice samples of old analogue gear that makes the
blips and bloops in acid tunes.  Arps, Moogs, 303s that kind of thing.

Im talking about 8 bit or 16bit samples, .wav or raw sample at least 22khz, if
this means anything to you, no crummy .au files thank you.

If you know of any ftp sites for this kind of stuff then please email me.
However if you have a 303/whatever and a sampler that can make files to the
above specification but are thinking 'naaah cant be bothered spending half
an hour of my life for this when I could be skinning up' then the only extra
incentive I can offer is mix tapes, obtained here in London and containing
mighty fine dance tracks.

Comments and abuse to:
james@sol1.uel.ac.uk

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1993 17:04:34 GMT
From: tjr@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (thomas.j.roberts)
Subject: Tech Questions on Gravis Ultrasound (GUS)
Message-ID: <C918ru.80q@cbnewsc.cb.att.com>

ReprintFrom: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard

I am considering purchasing a soundcard, and the Gravis Ultrasound
looks like the best choice for me, so far. I intend to use it for
serious music applications, both sampling and its own internal
synthesizer and MIDI ports. I will primarily use it under Windows 3.1,
using my own programs which I can customize for the GUS, if necessary.

A few questions (yes, I have read the FAQ):

1. I understand the GUS can play 32 simultaneous samples. How is this
   implemented? Does the Windows 3.1 driver implement 32 waveform
   output devices? Does it use "driver custom messages"? How does
   my program access the GUS to play multiple simultaneous samples?
   Does it cache them on-board? Can my program control the cache (i.e.
   indicate "keep this one" but "delete that one") ? Can it change
   the pitch and/or sample-rate of the playback?

2. I believe there is a programmable DSP on the board. What chip
   is it? What tools are available for it? I am an experienced DSP
   programmer.

3. I know that an SDK is available from the FTP sites. I did not pick
   it up because it is so large (I probably will do so if I purchase the
   board). What capabilities does the SDK provide? Is there a DSP
   assembler/downloader in it? If there are DSP tools, is there enough
   documentation on the overall hardware/software environment to make
   it useful? Is the SDK necessary to use the GUS under Windows 3.1, 
   or do the MIDI and waveform drivers suffice for the following?
	playing multiple waveforms
	using its internal synthesizer
	using its MIDI I/O ports

4. Does playing waveforms interact with the internal synthesizer?
   In particular, does playing multiple waveforms reduce the number
   of synthesizer voices (simultaneous notes)?

5. I understand that the GUS emulates a SoundBlaster via a TSR called
   SBOS (this question is for usage under DOS). Is the emulation
   good enough to work with most games? How likely is it that a given
   game will work with the GUS (if it works with the SB)? I know this
   depends upon the specific game; I am looking for a general "feel" -
   is it useful for games, or do many/most games fail to use it?

Thanks in advance. If you know any of these answers, please send email
and I will summarize to the group.

Tom Roberts tjrob@ihlpl.att.com

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 22 Jun 93 12:10:20 BST
From: "James Andrews, User Support" <james@sol1.east-london.ac.uk>
Subject: The ultrasound ftp site
Message-ID: <3570.9306221110@uk.ac.uel.sol1>

I read with interest you highly sensible view of where the epas ftp site
should go from here.
There is one option that you havent covered: approaching gravis and asking
them for a gig of disk.  It wouldnt cost them *that* much, and it would
get rid of your immediate disc problems.
unless of course its the traffic to the ftp site that is part of the 
problem.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 21 Jun 93 13:41:03 
From: john.smith@gravis.com
Subject: ULTRASOUND DAILY DIGEST V
Message-ID: <9306211341.A6538wk@gravis.com>

U>----------------------------------------------------------------------
U>Date: Sun, 20 Jun 93 0:49:41 CDT
 >From: Michael J Stumpf <mjs7529@tamsun.tamu.edu>
U>Post the games that these drivers work/sound good with..
U>------------------------------

Actually as I receive your updates I'll be compiling a list on this end.
 Along with any special information about that game/software.


John
---
 ~ QMPro 1.02 05-8925 ~ Tried to play my shoehorn... all I got was footnotes!

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 21 Jun 93 13:41:12 
From: john.smith@gravis.com
Subject: ULTRASOUND DAILY DIGEST V
Message-ID: <9306211341.A6543wk@gravis.com>

Thanx for all your info about the AIL drivers.  I'll print out the
digest and go through it all with Forte.  Thanx.

John
---
 ~ QMPro 1.02 05-8925 ~ Gravis UltraSound - Who could ask for anything more?

------------------------------

Date: 21 Jun 93 09:17:00 EST
From: "NORSE::WATTERS_C" <WATTERS_C%NORSE.decnet@gate.hosp.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #21
Message-ID: <9306211330.AA29331@orca.es.com>

>Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1993 08:25:57 -0400 (EDT)
>From: elminstr@hudlink.hoboken.nj.us (J.J. Pierson)
>Subject: SBOS 2.0B9
>Message-ID: <yD1F6B1w165w@hudlink.hoboken.nj.us>

>I wouldn't recommend people to switch to this version. It still doesn't 
>work with POP2. (It locks up after a few minutes. I tried all the 
>options.) And now the same thing occurs in Lemmings 2. Version 2.08 (Or 
>whatever the last version was seemed to work fine with Lemmings 2 and you 
>just had to use the 1.2 version for POP2. (Although, for some reason, it 
>used to occasionally reboot my computer with SBOS loaded.)

I've been using the version of SBOS which arrived with the update
disks, and I am happy to report that I DON'T have a problem running 
POP2 with all the sound.

>Date: Sun, 20 Jun 93 13:16:55 EDT
>From: Stephen Ferguson <FERGUSOS@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
>Subject: Stacker etc.
>Message-ID: <9306201721.AA15250@orca.es.com>

>Well, as another unlucky X-winger (can only get AdLib sound) I was just
>wondering if the GUS is unhappy with DoubleSpace (DOS 6.0's hard disk
>compression software) which I have installed on my machine.  At the risk
>of sounding computer illiterate, if I have disk compression software
>running on my machine (ie Stacker) how can the computer read the
>previously compressed files if I don't load that TSR, as has been
>suggested in this digest.

Well, then you'd be stuck.  When I set up my new Maxtor 245mb drive, I
used 205mb as my compressed drive.  I've got just the SBOS (and ultrinit)
directory from the new distribution on the uncompressed drive, with the full
Ultrasnd directory sitting on the compressed drive.  For games which
have memory problems on my system (POP2 won't run if I've got dubldisk
loaded), I have a clean boot disk which I use for playing POP2.  It's a 
pain, but it works.

The Gravis stuff works fine with Vertisoft's DoubleDisk Gold, which is 
practically the same as Micro$oft DoubleSpace - excepting the fact that
DoubleDisk seems to be more bulletproof...

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 21 Jun 93 14:44:26 EDT
From: Phat H Tran <ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #21
Message-ID: <9306211844.AA21457@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>

> From: Fred W. Kuhlman <kuhlman@skate.az05.bull.com>
> Subject: 1 Meg Upgrade will not work
> 
> I just upgraded my Gus to 1 Meg.  I used "Sanyo 34256 245K x 4 DRAM" chips.
> I ran the gus memory tester supplied on the ver. 2.06 diskettes and it
> fails on banks 2,3 & 4 at the 64k spot.  The original bank 1 chips work.

Try a different brand of chips.  Also, see if the Sanyos will fail in
bank 1 as well.

> From: john.smith@gravis.com
> Subject: AIL & STRIKE
> 
> I'll talk more about this on Monday when I do the README for AIL.97.  These 
> drivers will NOT work with Strike Commander.  Origin uses a modified version
> which requires 386 protected mode and EMS. The only Origin games I have tried
>

Will you ever release AIL drivers that WILL work with Strike Commander?
I paid close to $90 for the game, and GUS support would be a nice return 
on that investment.
 
> From: Stephen Ferguson <FERGUSOS@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
> Subject: Stacker etc.
> 
> Well, as another unlucky X-winger (can only get AdLib sound) I was just
> wondering if the GUS is unhappy with DoubleSpace (DOS 6.0's hard disk
> compression software) which I have installed on my machine.  At the risk

I'm using DoubleSpace as well, and X-wing runs nearly flawlessly with
SBOS 1.20.  The digital speech only drops out on the rare occasion,
and the slow-downs when I fire my lasers or a TIE zooms by are eliminated
by turning the music off.

Phat.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 22 Jun 93 00:23:30 GMT
From: mike@batpad.org (Mike Batchelor)
Subject: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #21
Message-ID: <znr740708610k@batpad>

In your message you write:

> From: gregof@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Grego Filippo)
> Subject: Help with SBOS -F
>
> Hi,
> I came across a strange error when I type SBOS -F to release it from
> memory....the message is:
> Unable to release SBOS
> Keyboard interrupt hooked
>
> Now, what does that mean ???? Any clue ???

Some TSR loaded AFTER SBOS has hooked int 9, the keyboard 
interrupt.  This is making SBOS unhappy.  Unload the second TSR 
first, then SBOS.  Or load SBOS last.  It may be that the game 
you just ran SBOS with has altered the interrupt vectors, and 
not restored them when it finished.  This is a PROGRAMMING ERROR 
- a big one, too.  You'd have to reboot the system to recover 
from it if that is the case.  Report the bug to the game 
publisher, it is an inexcusable omission for them to leave the 
interrupt vectors in disarry.

--
				   ///////////////////////////////
					//// Mike Batchelor ///////////
					 //// mike@batpad.org //////////
					  //// Mar Vista, California ////
					   ///////////////////////////////

------------------------------

Date: 21 Jun 1993 16:52:44 GMT
From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Subject: Ultrasound FTP Sites - Discussion on new arrangement
Message-ID: <204p0sINNfs@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>

ReprintFrom: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard

					GRAVIS ULTRASOUND FTP SITES NEWS
==========================================================================
Ftp Site: archive.epas.utoronto.ca     Directory: pub/pc/ultrasound
		  wuarchive.wustl.edu                     systems/msdos/ultrasound
 -------------------------------------------------------------------------

Time for a new discussion about our ftp archives....

At the beginning of time, when GUS first hit the market, we were
fortunate enough to have Adam volunteer his site for our first archive.
That site being our main site, archive.epas.utoronto.ca, of course. GUS 
was still new then and support was limited. We didn't know how well it'd
catch on or how big an archive site we need. But thanks to Adam, GUS and
our archive to collaborate our efforts was well on its way.....

Since then, I have been able to get a second offical site, that being
wuarchive.wustl.edu which is meant for archives. And now there are
mirror sites popping up everywhere.

[Aside: if you are an admin of a mirror site of our archive, please send
me an email cause we want to compose a list of all our mirror sites as
well. Thanks!]

But wow, did GUSmania ever catch on? And with Advance Gravis' help of
constantly releasing software, support, and now the sdk, the growth of our
archive is growing like mad. We're getting an average of 10 megs of
new files in the submit directory a week. Back in December, we'd get 10
megs in a month. But anyways, this archive is growing way faster than
anyone was able to predict. And the amount of room Adam can gratiously
contribute on archive.epas.utoronto.ca is fast reaching its limits. Even
at the very beginning, epas wasn't meant to be a huge archive and we've
already had plans on how we'd split the load once I was able to get
access to wuarchive. We just didn't expect that day to come this fast. I
was looking at a couple of years before we hit the limit, not a couple
of months. So anyways, we are now faced with this question now. So here
is what we would do .... subject to change if need be of course....


wuarchive.wustl.edu:
====================

- wuarchive will continue to hold all the files since it's big enough


archive.epas.utoronto.ca:
=========================

- epas will continue to hold all the "important" files
- epas will no longer carry older versions of files released by Gravis
  ie. older sets of disks, sbos, setup programs....etc
- epas will no longer hold sound files: midi, mod, wav...etc
  These are our largest growing group of files which will still be
  available from other sites like wuarchive. Utilities like players and
  composers will still be available
- As of now, the digests are not taking up much space so will remain
  on epas until perhaps older volumes being taken off if we need space
  later on. Again, they are always available at other sites such as
  wuarchive
- epas will still be the site for uploads/submissions for all files


With the above big files/directories being displaced to other sites, it
should give us tens of megs of diskspace back and this arrangement should
last us for a couple of years.... that is unless we again miscalculated and 
the GUS's growth is really growing expontentially. Then we may need to
rethink this sooner than a couple of years. And yes, I DO actually want
to see the GUS's growth increase exponentially. :) You know.... be all that 
we can be.... :) Even if it means more work on our part.... :(... :)
Grow GUS grow!

Sorry... got the GUSmania fever for a bit there. Anyways, comments?
Speak now or we'll go ahead with this probably by the end of this week.

Please post your responses so that we can have a public discussion.

Go GUS Go! :)


Thomas.
The GUS ftp archive guy....

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 21 Jun 93 15:57:31 BST
From: "James Andrews, User Support" <james@sol1.east-london.ac.uk>
Subject: using ultrasound as a midi sampler
Message-ID: <5047.9306211457@uk.ac.uel.sol1>

> 
> Jack F. Vogel writes:
> >
> > I noticed questions asked once and a while in this group
> >about using the GUS (Gawd, I HATE acronymns!) with real midi
> >keyboards. But I have seen few replies. Seems this group is
> >primarily composed of the usual configuration and game questions!
> > So, what I want to know is whether anyone out there is 
> >using this thing professionally/semi-professionally as a sampler.
> >NO, I don't want to hear some devotee's claims about what it
> >COULD do, I would like to hear from those who have DONE it, or
> >at least tried and what was lacking.
> >
> [Remainder deleted to save space.]
> 
> Yes, I asked a similar question about a month ago and received one mail 
> reply.  That person said that GUS could be used as a MIDI sampler and 
> that a number of people were buying GUS's just for that purpose.  For 
> the past couple months I have been faithfully reading all GUS postings 
> here and in the GUS digest and have found nothing on this subject.  
> 

There isnt a lot of discussion of this is there?   Basically all thats been
said is 'heres the patch making software' the rest is just down to 
experimentation.
I am not a pro musician by any stretch of the imagination, I dont use a 
synth keyboard, I have successfully made midi patches which sound quite
fine.

> Is it clear what Jack and I are asking?  The Turtle Beach, Roland SCC-1, 
> and the new Roland RAP-10 board, for example, provide playback-only 
> sampling synthesizers.  The Ultrasound is also a playback sampler, but
> can it record samples as well?  
> 

The ultrasound card can *sample* in 8 bit, but its most useful feature that
the other cards on pcs dont have is converting those samples into midi
patches that are useable by the GUS midi drivers.

> Let's say I want to replace the piano sounds in GUS's General MIDI 
> wavetable file with sounds I've sampled from my Bosendorfer (I wish),  

Seeing as the GUS's current sampler is only 8 bit, that much-touted 1 meg
wavetable piano isnt going to be done by me.

> could I do that with GUS and hopefully some existing software that would 
> help me find good loop points and all the other things one can do with a 
> (much more expensive) MIDI record/playback sampling synthesizer?
> 

Yes it can do that, I use noisemaster, a dutch shareware package+ wav2pat
converter, which is pd.  But see list of problems below :)

> My guess is that there must be a large number of people besides Jack 
> and me reading this newsgroup who want to use their computer for MIDI 
> record/playback sampling.  If you are doing this with GUS I'd very much
> appreciate learning more about what it can do, what limitations it
> has, etc.  Thanks. 

Me too.  Lets here more about the gus's shortcomings in this department..

One limitation that the gus does seem to have compared with a proper sampler
is that it doesnt accept system exclusive sample dump messages ( or any
other sort of sysex )

The current state of play with the available patch making programs are that
they have 'trouble' with patches over 64k & certainly cant make patches over
256k that are 16 bit.  In other words wierdo restrictions are in place,
watch out.

The software that the gus is supplied with does not include a 'direct to disk'
single stereo record like DigiVox's Sound Impression or Digital Soup, so its
going to cost you extra bucks if you want to do this, although with only 8bit
sampling would it be of any use?

james@sol1.uel.ac.uk

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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 15:07:07 -0500 (EST)
From: sjm@se01.elk.miles.com (Scott Mark)
Subject: very frustrated with 7th Guest, AIL
Message-ID: <9306212007.AA05874@se01.elk.miles.com>

[this is my second posting of the day.  I think that the digest alphabetizes
 by subject, so you may read of my first problems later on.  Since then I've
 decided that I really do need to use ULTRAMID to run 7th guest.]

I guess I give up for now.

I've had absolutely no luck getting The 7th Guest to use the AIL
drivers.

If I try loading ultramid low, I've got about 540K of free RAM available,
and 7th Guest bombs out with:
Error: A memory error has occurred

every time.  Sometimes I get Stauf's picture and "loading General MIDI files"
or something like that beforehand.  Sometimes it craps out right away.


So I try using 386max.  Which refuses to make it load high, even though I
take out all other stuff, and have a 57k region in which to load a 56k program.

So when I edit autoexec.bat myself to force it to stuff ultramid into region 2
(which is empty and has 57k free or so), I get the problem:
"port address not found"     (or something close)
"another program is using the Ultrasound"    (again, something close)

even though I've got a bare-bones system, and tried it with and without
ultrinit.


--------------------------

So I try the example they have in the "readme" file.  I make a DOS boot disk
and make the config.sys and autoexec.bat files match the ones in "readme"

No dice.  For some reason, DOS is the only thing that loads high, and after
my NECCD device (which has to be added to config.sys) and mscdex (which has
to be in autoexec.bat, and can't be loaded high anyway) have loaded, I have
about 490k available for programs!



Argh, Grr, and other sounds of frustration.  Has anyone gotten 7th guest
to work?

I have:
	Gateway 4DX2-66V
	Ultrasound with 1MB RAM
	NEC Intersect CDR-74
	16 MB RAM
	386Max
	DOS 5
	NDOS    from norton utilities
	NCACHE2 from norton utilities

I've tried not using NDOS; I've tried not using NCACHE2.

Too bad.  This sounded like it would really be worth the effort.

Scott
Scott Mark      (219) 262-7452      8:00 - 4:30 EST
sjm@se01.elk.miles.com

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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1993 15:30 GMT+0100
From: RTHI%BTMA74@se.alcbel.be
Subject: Where in the world is my 8k DRAM
Message-ID: <01GZOMNOUBYO8WWVOE@btmv56>

I have made the upgrade from 256k to 1M DRAM.

I used the diagnostic program that came with the soundcard to test the DRAM
and... it worked all 1024k passed the test. I was a happy man.

However, when I started windows and launched the PatchManager, he told me
that only 1016k was free.

So my question is where in the world is my 8k...

Anybody? John?

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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 93 16:53:50 MDT
From: Stuart Yoshida <yoshida@elektra.fc.hp.com>
Subject: X-Wing fix (this one worked!)
Message-ID: <9306222253.AA22019@elektra.fc.hp.com>

  A bit "THANK YOU!"  goes out to Stefan Magdalinski of the UK for his
  suggested fix to make X-Wing work in Soundblaster mode.

  PROBLEM:  GUS would only work with X-Wing in Adlib mode.  Therefore, I
		could only get music; no digitized sound effects were
		playing.

  SOLUTION: Set the GUS address to 220h.

  After changing the address jumpers and editing my AUTOEXEC.BAT and
  CONFIG.SYS to specify 220h as the GUS address for ULTRAINIT and the
  Soundblaster variables, I rebooted my PC to make the changes take
  effect.  (As a side note, I also had to change my SCSI card address
  because it conflicted with the 220h address.)  Then I went into the
  X-Wing "INSTALL" program to change the sound card setting to
  Soundblaster mode, and viola'!  I got music *and* digitized sound
  effects!  Happy, happy, joy, joy!

  I'm using SBOS 2.09B, if that makes any difference.

  If you're having a similar problem with the GUS, give this solution a
  try.

  Thanks again, Stefan!

--

  Stuart Yoshida

Internet: yoshida@elektra.fc.hp.com
   Voice: (303) 229-2324

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Date: (null)
From: (null)

Could it be that these chips are NOT page mode?  

What brand chips have other people received from Elkco?  Elkco told me that
they carry Sanyo and Micron... Maybe we just need to stay away from Sanyo
chips... 

Please help...

Dave 

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