GUS Daily Digest            Mon, 24 Jan 94  0:07         Volume 10: Issue  24 

Today's Topics:
						Chipsets yet again...
							 DMA problems
								dos4gw
						   DOS4GW Conflict
			  DOS4GW Problems & GUS0036.ZIP - Solutions
		  GUS CD-ROM interface, OS/2, and MEI CD-ROM drive.
						  Joystick Y-adapter
						   Memory speed...
						   New MCS stuffs?
				 NHL Hockey and SBOS 3.7b no voices!
			 QEMM w/Stealth, Ftp info, and Megaem w/Xwing
				 trouble in PatchMaker lite heaven :)
 Ultrasound Internet Archives News - New Files Validated - Jan 23, 94

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 21:02:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Roger Frederi Clark <helios@strauss.udel.edu>
Subject: Chipsets yet again...

I've seen some posts recently about this subject, and I have a couple of
questions that some guru might be able to answer out there.

Ever since I purchased the GUS(15 months ago) and found out about 8 vs. 16 bit
DMA, I've been trying to get a 16-bit DMA to work because it's purportedly
faster(yes, I'm a speed-freak).

Yesterday I tried once again.  In SETGUS, I change DMA from 3 to 5,6,or 7,
go to test, and "On board parity error".  I know about the problem with
the Opti chipsets, but my chips advertise UMC on them.  Specifically, part
numbers UM82C481AF, UM82C482AF, and UM82C206AF.  On a post a couple of
days ago, I noticed the "82C206" part of the last chip number as being
suspect.  Does that mean 16-bit DMA is out for me too even without Opti? 
If so, then explain this one.

The "On-board parity error" occurs with DOS 6.2, HIMEM, EMM386(NOEMS), on a
486DX50 with 16megs.  For some reason I decide to turn off EMM386 and try.
SETGUS once again, this time, it checks the 16-bit DMA of 5,6, or 7 and
reports "passed".  I try to run something in dos, like "midi1mb.bat", and
the screen goes blank and starts outputting the "Playing..." to my
printer!!!!   Then I try it out in Windows.  All the settings change to
the new DMA and windows reboots fine.  I go to play a wav and my computer
does a COLD REBOOT AUTOMATICALLY(like pushing the reset button).

Can anyone explain this to me?  Thanks for allowing me the bandwidth..

Roger Clark
						| /\       
helios@strauss.udel.edu |/^^\     o            "I'd rather be biking."
University of Delaware  |    \    J\.                           
Chemistry (and others)  |     \__O_<_O_______________________________________

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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 01:09:58 -0500 (EST)
From: "K.S. Holly" <u8843389@muss.cis.mcmaster.ca>
Subject: DMA problems

Oh, one other thing....

I spent ALL &%&$#^%$ DAY on Saturday  trying to set my GUS on to a 16 bit 
DMA channel. I couldn't do it and I don't expect to find any magical 
solution but maybe someone can tell me what it is that almost drove me to 
breaking the %$*#&@ GUS over my knee!!!!!!

I have a SB 2.0 in my machine ( 220, IRQ 7, DMA 1), a GUS (240, DMA 3, IRQ
5 & 7) and a tape controller (300-301, IRQ 2, DMA 2) On it's own I could
get the GUS to work fine with DMA 5 or 7. Even with the SB 2.0 I could get
it to work with DMA 7 but as soon as I put the tape controller back in I
couldn't get the GUS to work with anything other than DMA 3. I was able to
get the GUS to work on DMA 5 WITH the controller but WITHOUT the SB 2.0! I
tried all kinds of different irq's on the controller and tried DMA 3
instead of 2 but to no avail. 

Why am I having this problem from a board that doesn't even come close to 
using a 16 bit channel? There shouldn't be any conflict at all should there?

What exactly are the advantages of using 16 bit DMA instead of 8 anyway?

Kevin
 

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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 19:30:25 -0700
From: Tam Ignatius Ying S <tam@amisk.cs.ualberta.ca>
Subject: dos4gw

Hi all,

Many people out there just don't know why games with dos4gw
can't run with gus.  Though many of you know why i'd like to
post again why (sorry for not-so-related topic!) to new comers.

Dos4GW is an extender program for Watcom C/++ compiler which can
produce a program accessing more memory, thus breaking the 1MB 
barrier.  To do this DOS4GW must take over control of the PC
using 32-bit protected mode.  However, megaem also do its emulation
using protected mode, so caused a conflict and megaem becomes
inactive.  Using sbos is an alternative but since sbos is 16-bit
program there will be unwanted slowdowns.

The current alternative is to support gus natively (that's why
we've asked game companies many many times) like Doom, which
also uses dos4gw.  Another way is to wait for the new 32-bit Ultramid,
which will be due out in one week or so (according to Phat),
then many new games can be supported, like Simcity 2000, new
Sierra games, etc.  Like it or not, I personally think that 
Ultramid is the ultimate way to support the GUS since game
developers are lazy, they don't want to support natively 
any new card out there...

Hope this helps (correct me if anything is wrong)

- Ignatius

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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 94 00:03:58 PST
From: chrism@huey.nic.bc.ca (Chris Mackay)
Subject: Re: DOS4GW Conflict

> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 12:24:33 -0500 (EST)
>
> From: Chris M Durfy <durfycm@ucunix.san.uc.EDU>
>
> Subject: Dos4GW Conflict.
>
>
> Anyone out there in Gus land understand why I can't play any games
> that involve  the use of Dos4GW? I don't know if it is sound card
> conflict , or hardware, cuz  if it is other-wise software related ,
> I don't get it! Im running Dos 6.2, Qemm  7.3 w/ stealth and
> doublespace. Diamond speedstar 24x 486DX 50! I have never got ten
> Comanche, Syndicate, Mortal KOmbat, plus much more often lately.
> No one see ms to understand whats up, can anyone out there give me
> a hand? Thanks.

 I would immediately start to suspect the stealth option in
QEMM 7.3. I had nothing but problems with Stealth. Take the
stealth out, I think by editing your config.sys by taking I
think the :P off the end of the QEMM statement. My second
suspicion would be Doublespace. Hope this helps.

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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 15:20 EDT
From: GILMOUR@BINAH.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU
Subject: DOS4GW Problems & GUS0036.ZIP - Solutions

Chris M Durfy writes:
CH> Anyone out there in Gus land understand why I can't play any
CH> games that  involve the use of Dos4GW?  I don't know if it
CH> is sound card conflict,  or hardware, cuz if it is
CH> other-wise software related, I don't get it! I'm running Dos
CH> 6.2, Qemm 7.3 w/ stealth and doublespace.  Diamond speed-
CH> star 24x 486DX 50!  I have never gotten Comanche, Syndicate,
CH> Mortal KOmbat, plus much more often lately.  No one seems to
CH> understand whats up, can  anyone out there give me a hand?
CH> Thanks.
CH> 
CH>                                 Chris

I believe your problem is that DOS4GW does not allow the use of IRQs >7.
Try changing your autoexec.bat to read "SET ULTRASND=220,1,1,7,7".  This
is what the problem with DOOM was, which also uses DOS4GW.  Hope it works!


Also Gary Robert Veduccio writes:
CH> Where is the new SBOS?  The file GUS0036.ZIP was supposed to
CH> be on EPAS. Where is it now?

You'll find it on EPAS under /submit/gravis.bbs/gus0036.zip

-Jeff

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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 1:22:24 -0500 (EST)
From: JEFFREY J SKUBICK <29664453T@SERVAX.FIU.EDU>
Subject: GUS CD-ROM interface, OS/2, and MEI CD-ROM drive.

I just got the new MEI catalog a few days ago & have been thinking about
buying their $187.97 doublespeed CD-ROM drive.  According to the AD, it
works with the CD port on the Soundblaster Pro/16/16 ASP/16 ASP MultiCD.
With this in mind, I have two questions:
1) Do the GUS CD-ROM card and drivers work under OS/2 (obviously the sound
   card doesn't work and there's no Windows Multimedia or MMPM/2 support, but
   it's MANDATORY that I at least be able to treat it like a big floppy and
   can at least copy files off of the ftp-os2 CD-ROM).
2) Is the GUS CD-ROM port pin compatible with the Soundblaster Pro/16's?  They
   -do- sell an extra interface, but I'd prefer to make my life easier and 
   use the GUS interface if possible.

actually, there is also a third question relating to the card:
3) Does the GUS CD-ROM daughtercard require an IRQ, and if so, can it use
   IRQs 9-16?  I have absolutely no lower IRQs free (until I got OS/2, I 
   never realized just how many manufacturers are too cheap to support the
   high IRQs.  It doesn't help that a lot of DOS games are too brain dead
   to use high IRQs either, forcing me to keep the GUS on IRQ 5 even though
   it can easily handle IRQ 11.  Things like this bring back bad memories of
   having an Amiga 3000 and trying to run games that got mad if you had a
   hard drive, a non-68000, a second floppy, or more than 512k. 
   #define bitch_and_gripe off )

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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 00:33:00 -0500 (EST)
From: "K.S. Holly" <u8843389@muss.cis.mcmaster.ca>
Subject: Joystick Y-adapter

Can someone please verify something for me?

I had a defective y-cable so I took it apart with the idea that I would 
re-wire it so that it would work with my GUS. In taking it apart, the 
male connector was completely severed from the two female ends so I don't 
know which wires came off of which pins.
I have the schematic for a standard y-adapter (thanks Saari!) and I know 
that the GUS uses pins 12 and 15 for midi transmission.

So, my two questions are:

1) Can I go ahead and substitute ANY ground and +5VDC pins for the ones 
that the GUS uses for midi (this is presumably why a standard cable won't 
work with the GUS)? All together there are 4 +5VDC pins and 3 grounds on 
the male connector. One of each is used by the GUS for midi. That leaves 
me with one extra ground and two extra +5VDC pins to use for Joystick 2. 
Can I use ANY +5VDC and ground pins (except 12 and 15)? I assume that they 
all come from the same sources.

2) Also, do I assume that pinouts for the female ends of the y-cable are 
the same as the joystick 1 pinouts on the male end (i.e. pins 1-7)? This 
would mean that in order to wire joystick 2 I would use the same 
configuration as on joystick 1 at the female end but wire them to pins 
9-15 at the male end instead. Is any of this making sense? :-)


I hope that someone knows what I mean. I'm pretty sure that I'm right but 
when it comes to hard wiring, I want to be sure.....


Kevin
 

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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 10:46:20 +1100 (EST)
From: Charlie Brady <charlieb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au>
Subject: Re: Memory speed...

On Fri, 21 Jan 1994, GUS Server wrote:
> 
> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 17:01:36 -0500 (EST)
> From: Phat H Tran <ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>
> Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V10 #20
> 
> > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 23:12:50 -0600 (CST)
> > From: Fitzgerald Jr Steele <fjsteele@icaen.uiowa.edu>
> > Subject: DRAM chips
> > 
> > 1)  Is it ok to get a faster chip?  They sold 70ns chips for the same
> > price.  Would the faster chip give better performance?
> 
> Yes, it's okay.  No, they won't improve performance.
> 
> 
> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 94 10:12:41 MST
> From: shannon@physics.Arizona.EDU (Shannon Miller)
> Subject: Reply to Faster Memory and Memory Prices
> 
> I upgraded by GUS to 1MB as soon as I got it. I went with a local retailer
> for memory, and it ran me around $45 to go from 256K to 1MB.
> 
> The faster memory, the better! Just make sure it's at least as fast as
> the memory the card came with, and make sure that each bank has the same
> speed of memory (i.e. each row of two chips must be filled with two
> identicle chips). Otherwise, the faster the chip, the better the 
> performance!
> 

No, faster memory does not give you better performance - Tran is right.
Faster memory is better to buy if the price is right however, because you 
might one day use the memory in something else - a video card, for instance.
You can always use faster memory where slow memory will do, but not the 
other way around.

Charlie Brady * (W) charlieb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au * (H) charlieb@budge.apana.org.au
"Make it as simple as possible - | Tel: (02) 413 6838 ____Telectronics__| /\__
  but no simpler"   Einstein, A  | Fax: (02) 413 6868 Pacing Systems    \/  

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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 01:22:41 -0500
From: KWAN  RICHARD SIK YIU <kwanr@ecf.toronto.edu>
Subject: New MCS stuffs?

	Have anybody tried the new programs from Animotion (the company that
produce MCS Stereo)?
	I saw the ads from Windows Source, saying that one of their new prog
called MCS SoundTrak supported Q-sound, I want to know it supports Q-sounds
of GUS or SB16. I hope anyone can help me to clear this up!

Thanks in advance!

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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 11:43:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Stephen Lee <stephlee@unixg.ubc.ca>
Subject: NHL Hockey and SBOS 3.7b no voices!

I can't seem to get nhl hockey to work with the new sbos even with the -04
parameter.

I'm using megaem with the mt-32 option and the music is great but no
digital voices. 
I'm using QEMM and a smartdrv. Is there anything I should do?
Stephen.

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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 01:46:01 -0500 (EST)
From: gt7039a@prism.gatech.edu
Subject: QEMM w/Stealth, Ftp info, and Megaem w/Xwing

To the person with the DOS4GW problem: I have heard of some problems with the
QEMM Stealth mode and DOS4GW elsewhere, though I cannot verify it... anyone else
can?

The new GUS drivers and Mega-em may have been moved off of archive.epas due to
the fact that epas underwent a major restructuring and now I believe only
accepts new submissions...

As for X-wing, there are two things to do to improve the game:

1) Turn digital sounds on instead of off. This gets rid of the annoying
ringwhistle for the lasers.
2) Get an x-wing replacement patch set to help improve the sounds. Last I heard,
epas did have this...

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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 94 02:47:31 PST
From: chrism@huey.nic.bc.ca (Chris Mackay)
Subject: trouble in PatchMaker lite heaven :)

 I just installed PatchMaker Lite 1.10(PML), and the new Ultrasound
drivers to support it. I've had no problems at all with them
so far regarding playing MIDI files and such. However, I have
started to look into PML and I am trying to make my own patches.
 But when I drag the violin.wav into the piano and want to
loop it, it comes up with these two error messages: "Error 8
loading patch parameters" and immediately following, "Returned
wave parameters differ." I'm stumped as to how to fix the
problem. Any ideas?? Thanks in advance....

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Date: 23 Jan 94 14:42 -0800
From: Thomas Wong <twong@civil.ubc.ca>
Subject: Ultrasound Internet Archives News - New Files Validated - Jan 23, 94

				   GRAVIS ULTRASOUND INTERNET ARCHIVES NEWS
==============================================================================
					   FTP Sites                     Archive Directories
					   ---------                     -------------------
Main N.American Site:  archive.orst.edu              pub/packages/gravis
					   wuarchive.wustl.edu           systems/ibmpc/ultrasound
Main Asian Site:       nctuccca.edu.tw               PC/ultrasound
European Callers ONLY: theoris.rz.uni-konstanz.de    pub/sound/gus
Submissions:           archive.epas.utoronto.ca      pub/pc/ultrasound/submit
Newly Validated Files: archive.epas.utoronto.ca      pub/pc/ultrasound
Mirrors:               garbo.uwasa.fi                mirror/ultrasound

MailServer For Archive Access: Email to <mail-server@nike.rz.uni-konstanz.de>
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------


Well everyeone, it's finally done.... The new format for EPAS has finally 
been setup and you should find the following validated files in the
appropriate directories.

Please note the new header above for a complete list of our Internet
services.

Please allow 24 hours for the other (not EPAS) sites to mirror the new
validated files.

There are some very nice pieces of work this time around. Check out most
of the files if you can. But anyways, what you've all been waiting
for...

Files validated for the Ultrasound Internet Archives, dated Jan 23, 94
(well, actually validated Dec 28 but problems prevented me from
releasing them as you all know)......

____________________________________________________________________________


Subdirectory:  ..../demo

byteb4.zip - The Byte Before Christmas demo by JL Enterprises (GUS)
motion2.zip - Motion demo by Avalanche (GUS)
unreal11.zip - Unreal Ver 1.1 from Future Crew (GUS)



Subdirectory:  ..../info

3d.txt - Update of 3D info file
dae10.txt - Freeware/Shareware Digital Audio Editors
glist.zip - G_LIST, dated 12-06-93, games/demos compatible with Ultrasound
grndloop.txt - Info on fixing noise problems on Ultrasound
jp5_jp7.txt - Info on Jumper (JP5 + JP7) modifications and specs
midi4css.txt - Info on creating 4 channel surround sound with midi
midifile.zip - Midi file format description



Subdirectory:  ..../game

doom11pt.zip - Patch to upgrade DOOM version 0.99+ to 1.1
doom1_1a.zip - DOOM version 1.1, supports Ultrasound
doom1_1b.zip /
doomex.zip - Extracts single data files from Doom
doomgus.txt - Info for running DOOM 1.0 on Ultrasound
lolp111a.zip - Land of Lore patch to version 1.11a
lolsound.zip - Land or Lore patch for multiple soundcards
moo_gus.zip - Master of Orion patch for Ultrasound
tetrisp.a01 - Tetris Pro, cool SVGA tetris with Ultrasound support
tetrisp.arj /



Subdirectory:  ..../gravis/patch

ultrajoy.exe - Update to Gravis' Ultrajoy program
umid106a.zip - Ultramid Ver 1.06a, from GUS SDK 2.10
gus0036.zip - SBOS 3.7B2



Subdirectory:  ..../gravis/util

midfir76.zip -  Gravis' Midifier turns GUS into general midi sound module
pmak110.zip - Patch Maker Lite Ver 1.10
gusdk210.zip - GUS SDK 2.10
megem202.zip - Mega-Em 2.02



Subdirectory:  ..../misc

mc1upd6.zip - Music Chart #1 by Snowman of Digitial Infinity



Subdirectory:  ..../util/dos

brainwav.zip - Wave, Brainwave synchronization voice file maker
cool131.zip - Cool Edit 1.31 waveform editor



Subdirectory:  ..../sound/669/files

faces.zip, fascinat.zip, get_bent.669, ignoranc.zip, stop10.zip, waves.zip



Subdirectory:  ..../sound/669/util

tc669132.lzh - Update to TC669, 669 player, Ver 1.32



Subdirectory:  ..../sound/midi/files

bach_p2.zip (GM), ggvol01.zip (GUS), gjblues1.zip (GUS), hwboatgm.zip (GM),
hwtechgm.zip (GM), nausicaa.zip (GUS), ultima7.zip (MT32), zorgcoll.zip (GUS)
xinspace.zip (One of best midi files around + demo)



Subdirectory:  ..../sound/midi/util

midiband.zip - Midiband Ver 1.0 player shows instruments playing on screen



Subdirectory:  ..../sound/misc

bussis3m.zip - S3M file
drknss3m.zip - S3M file
fishs3m.zip - S3M file
iplay10b.zip - Intertia Player Ver 1.00 beta, multi format player for GUS
juker30.zip - Midi + wav jukebox for Win 3.1 with advanced features
metal023.zip - Metal Ver 0.2pl3, multi channel multi format trakker for GUS



Subdirectory:  ..../sound/mod/files

comein.zip, freeze.zip, lost_s_d.lha, meltdown.zip, opticmod.zip, predator.zip
journey1.zip, journey2.zip (Check out these 2 includes neat graphics interface)



Subdirectory:  ..../sound/mod/util

dmp278.zip - Update of Dual Module Player, version 2.78
gp15-pas.zip - Gusplay V1.5 using UltraDox V1 source code in B/T Pascal
mikmod2.arj - Mikmod ver 0.2 + source for writing Mod player using GUS SDK 2.01
mod4win.zip - Mod4win Ver 1.02, mod player for Win 3.1
modman16.zip - Modman Ver 1.6, front end interface to mod players
pt4gus06.zip - ProTracker Ver 0.6 for Ultrasound
tumodu36.zip - Modutils Ver 3.6, Mod utilities



Subdirectory:  ..../sound/patches/files

bosen_l.zip



Subdirectory:  ..../sound/patches/util

mod2pat.zip - Convert many mod formats to Ultrasound patches



Subdirectory:  ..../sound/wav/files

c_and_c.zip, cyboman.zip



Notes:
======

b5th-1.zip - Can't unzip. Please re-upload.
buzzmod1.zip - Can't unzip. Please re-upload.
HYPERK.LZH - Can't unzip or lha extract. Please re-upload.
HYPERK.ZIP /
ultralin.arj - Can't arj extract. Please re-upload.

md-mtlty.zip - Both soundblaster only & can't get to work with SBOS or Mega-Em
mega-098.arj / Can anyone confirm it works on a GUS?

merrylit.zip - Corrupt midi file? Can't play on any midi player.

opticnrv.zip - neat graphics but no sound and nothing to do with Ultrasound

soundbug.zip - Please send problems to Gravis, shouldn't be archived here



Comments:
=========

Well here we are. A new batch of new files validated. Sorry for the slowness
of this current validation but due to problems with wuarchive, then came
Xmas and New Year then problems with wuarchive and epas, well, I'm glad I 
finally had it done. As you can see above, the number of files ain't small.

Anyways, the first thing I'll be doing is a _small_ reorganizing of
one directory. sound/misc is getting huge so I think I'll create sound
subdirectories for ULT and S3M files and sort those out.

Have a gander at the latest files above. We have quite a few files well
worth looking at above. A couple of really good programs/games. Looks
like Ultrasound support is getting not only the quantity now, but also
quality...



Happy GUSing.....


Thomas.

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