Ultrasound Daily Digest     Wed, 17 Feb 93       Volume 2 : Issue  45 

Today's Topics:
				  **FORSALE: New Gravis Ultrasound**
						  DMP 2.02 released
							 dram sockets
							 GUS Buzzing
					   Gusmod 2.04 -- GTSR 1.02
							 GUS Trouble
					   GUS Wavetable questions
				   Is there a Patch creater about?
							Patch problems
		 Ultrasound FTP Sites News - New Directory Structure
   Using VGA DRAM, Midi Percussion patches, setup & gusmod problems
								 USS8
	What was the consensus about the GUS 3D, and surround sound??
			Will the Gravis SDK be free like the PAS-16's?
					  Windows problems still...

	Information about the UltraSound Daily Digest (such as
mail addresses, request servers, ftp sites, etc., etc.) can be found
at the end of the Digest.
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 93 09:52:37 -0800
From: hsiaa@ucs.orst.edu (Arthur Hsia)
Message-Id: <9302161752.AA17978@ucs>
Subject: **FORSALE: New Gravis Ultrasound**
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

Hi,

I have a completely new Gravis Ultrasound for sale.  I would be
willing to part with it for $135 plus whatever the shipping is.

Art

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Date: 15 Feb 1993 22:54:50 +0200
From: c142092@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Chrons Otto)
Message-Id: <1lovuqINNoqh@cc.tut.fi>
Subject: DMP 2.02 released
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

Hi,

New DMP (Dual Module Player) has been released:

Version 2.02    Bugfixes                                February 15th, 1993
 
		- Bug in the MOD loader caused erranous volumes when instrument
		  changed.
		- When using a 16-bit soundcard, DMP could cause machine lockp
		  if a 386-program was run in DOS shell. Now it won't.
		- Help screen showed wrong information about '-u' switch

Its available at
wuarchive.wustl.edu   /pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS/sounds
ftp.uwp.edu           /pub/incoming/dmp (/pub/msdos/modplayers)

 _   _
(_).(_.

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 93 12:05:50 GMT
From: "James Andrews, User Support" <james@sol1.east-london.ac.uk>
Message-Id: <17753.9302161205@uk.ac.uel.sol1>
Subject: dram sockets
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

>From: d91-sme@nada.kth.se
>Message-Id: <9302142306.AA05152@dront.nada.kth.se>
>Subject: Memory?
>To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
>
>On my GUS v2.2 I have eight sockets for DRAM. I figure, to get 1MB of on-board
>memory, I should have eight 128KB modules. But I've heard much about 256KB
>modules? What is true? Can I go out and buy any 1Mbit (128KB) module for my
>GUS or should I have something else?
>
>/Smedis (Niklas Smedberg, d91-sme@nada.kth.se)

Nah, the sockets are for 256k x 4 bit dram, not 128k x 8 bit dram.
Ask for 44256 chips like a lot of video cards use.

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1993 17:13:22 -0600 (CST)
From: "Neil D. Danylczuk" <ndd41@jester.usask.ca>
Message-Id: <Pine.3.04.9302161722.B25799-9100000@jester.usask.ca>
Subject: GUS Buzzing
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

I have a problem with my GUS buzzing in two situations:
 
1) Whenever I exit Windows, it starts buzzing.
   Typing ULTRINIT stops the buzzing.
 
2) My halogen lights seem to cause the GUS to buzz?
   Can anybody explain this or am I nuts?
 
I am using the latest drivers and updates, no not the new
patch set though.  BTW has anybody seen this yet?  Brad
Craig said it would be going out Jan. 25, but I've
seen no sign of it yet.

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Date: 15 Feb 93 22:37:04 MDT
From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
Message-Id: <1993Feb15.223704.64084@cc.usu.edu>
Subject: Gusmod 2.04 -- GTSR 1.02
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

Gusmod 2.04.... geez, I'm tired.  All day on this one.  If it doesn't work for
you, then I don't know how even Gravis's stuff worked for you.  I've checked
everything.  I've compared routines.  This stupid thing should work this time.

Thanks to everyone for your patience with this.  I really HATE bugfixes, but
this release it quite nice.  I'm going to list the what's new section from
version 2.03 below.

Version 2.03
	- Tried to get even more clicking out.
	- Extra environment variable commands.
	- Fixed IRQ stuff.
	- Two config files, one for Gusmod, one for GTSR.
	- There were some hard coded 220h's in the code.  These aren't hard coded
	  anymore.  Sorry, everyone.  It should not hang anymore.
 
GTSR 1.02
	- GTSR now properly frees itself from memory (I forgot to free the
	  environment block!).  Check it out!  Type MEM /C out the DOS prompt
	  before and after.
 
Version 2.04
	- Finally, everything now works!  Stupid DMA In and Out, everything!
	- The kill-those-darn-playing bugs release.
	- Looping now works properly.
	- Loop pops are history!
	- Hardly any pops (they're all sample now).
	- Things like the bassdrum in Axel F now play correctly.
	- Retrig Note works!
	- Note Cut works!
	- Note Delay works!
	- Added a new note table for more accurate frequencies.
	- The scopes now work correctly!

Well, this new one is available on archive.epas.utoronto.ca.  I killed the old
ones.  The only Gusmod left is /pub/pc/ultrasound/submit/gmod204.lzh.

If there are bugs, you know where to send them.  If you want Gravis to get rid
of Gusmod, you know who to contact.  

Me?  I'm off to bed now.  I'm very confident over 2.04.  I've tried every
possible configuration, solution, etc.  Heck, I even found an environment
variable bug!

Joshua Jensen
sl859@cc.usu.edu
cstrike@gompers.gompers.edu

CyberStrike of the USA's BEST!    Renaissance!!!

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1993 17:17:49 -0600 (CST)
From: "Neil D. Danylczuk" <ndd41@jester.usask.ca>
Message-Id: <Pine.3.04.9302161749.C25799-b100000@jester.usask.ca>
Subject: GUS Trouble
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

Read about your setup problems in the Gus Digest. 
You say you've had the GUS for a long time, since December.
Well, I got mine in Sept. or Oct., so I must be an old-timer!
 
You wouldn't believe the difficulties the card had back then.
Compared to then, the current version is almost perfect.
 
BUT... in answer to your question, I have experienced similar
troubles.  To solve the problem, you should remove all the
GUS files you currently have, and re-install using driver
set version 1.21 or 1.22.  It doesn't matter which set you
use - most of the improvements in 1.22 are single programs
and updates you probably already have FTP'd.  Install
the GUS0012.ZIP update for Windows and you should be
in business.  I think you problem sounds like you may have
put the new updates over a version 1.20 or earlier installation.
 
About the "Failure to Load Patch" errors, it is almost certainly
because you do not have enough RAM.  I found the best deal
around (the CDN prairies) to be about $6.00 per chip, however
you should be able to get them for perhaps half that in your
area.
 
Hope this helps...

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Date: 14 Feb 93 15:01:07 GMT
From: brown@bannor.ee.rochester.edu (Eric Brown)
Message-Id: <BROWN.93Feb14100107@bannor.ee.rochester.edu>
Subject: GUS Wavetable questions
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

What resolution are wavetables (MODS? / patches) stored in the GUS RAM?
(Are they 16bit 44k or 8bit 22k, etc...)

Are the wavetables (patches) fixed or variable length?
(In seconds and bytes)

Can one sample their own voice or instrument and ?easily? (or
w/ a little work) make their own patch?

If so, you only record one pitch and then GUS works its magic to
get other pitches?

If patches are not fixed length, what is the average length?
If patches are fixed lenght, then how long are they?
(In seconds and bytes)

So in 1MB of memory, how many patches/instruments can you fit at
one time?

Can you combine instruments on the fly?

How much of General MIDI does it support yet?

If you have a large piece (lots of instruments not all playing
at the same time), does the windows driver take care of uploading
and downloading new patches on the fly?

For sampling, what is the best input rate? (i.e. 12bit 44K or
8bit 22k)

Thanks in advance,
Eric.
brown@ee.rochester.edu
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 93 00:15 GMT
From: Stephen Poston <sposton@cix.compulink.co.uk>
Message-Id: <memo.958086@cix.compulink.co.uk>
Subject: Is there a Patch creater about?
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

I'm after some software that can take .snd sample from the GUS, cut and
paste various bits (USS8ish), add echo, 3D sound??, envelopes etc and
anything else that can add effects to samples (panning etc), assign sounds
to midi keys and then create a .pat file that can be downloaded to the GUS.

Also, I'll be testing one out with some midi equipment at the weekend
(MPU401 card, EMU Proteus 1 & 3 + other sound modules, Finale, Cakewalk)
so I'll post anything interesting to the ultrasound digest and pc.soundcards.


Hope someone can help

Steve

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1993 17:28:25 -0600 (CST)
From: "Neil D. Danylczuk" <ndd41@jester.usask.ca>
Message-Id: <Pine.3.04.9302161725.D25799-a100000@jester.usask.ca>
Subject: Patch problems
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

>My ultrasound came with te melodic patches for midi, but NO percussion
patches
>I personally would much rather have the percussion patches ver the
melodic ones
>.
>When I got patch manager 1.02 it showed only melodic instruments, did
the
>original pathc manager come with the percussion patches, and if not,
where
>can I find such entities?
 
You may have one of the *very* early driver sets for your GUS.
SOme of the early ones had all the percussion patches loaded into
big file called DRUMKIT or something like that.  To fix the 
problem you will need to remove your GUS files and reinstall
using version 1.21 or 1.22 of the Ultrasound drivers.  Then
install the Windows update file, GUS00xx.  You should be able
to use the percussion patches now.
 
Don't bother asking Gravis about it - the tech I talked to
had never even heard of the DRUMKIT.PAT files I had on my
system!  

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Date: 16 Feb 1993 06:38:05 GMT
From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Message-Id: <1lq24dINN8i2@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Ultrasound FTP Sites News - New Directory Structure
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

					GRAVIS ULTRASOUND FTP SITES NEWS
==========================================================================
Ftp Site: archive.epas.utornto.ca      Directory: pub/pc/ultrasound
		  wuarchive.wustl.edu                     systems/msdos/ultrasound
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First of all.... sorry everyone. But I was  preoocupied last week
so I didn't get around to getting the new directory survey analysis on
the road till this weekend even though I've received all my replies the
week before. And for those who don't know what the heck I'm talking
about, we had a survey on how we might restructure the current directory
structure of our 2 ftp sites, now that our archives have grown A LOT
FASTER and BIGGER than we first anticipated. The response by soundcard
buyers AND by software developpers for the GUS has been nothing but
amazing. Not to mention the volume of files we've received from Gravis
themselves. Their response to comsumer feedback was also nothing less
than wonderful. But anyways, on with the show...

After reviewing all your feedbacks, here is my proposed new directory
structure for our 2 ftp archive sites (mentioned above in the header of
this messge)...


..../ultrasound --.-- /submit
				  |
				  |-- /digest --.-- /v1
				  |             |-- /v2
				  |             |.. ...
				  |
				  |-- /gravis --.-- /bulletins
				  |             |-- /disks
				  |             `-- /patches
				  |
				  |-- /sound ---.-- /669
				  |             |-- /gts
				  |             |-- /midi
				  |             |-- /mod
				  |             |-- /patches
				  |             `-- /util
				  |
				  |-- /util ----.-- /gus
				  |             |-- /sb
				  |             `-- /windows
				  |
				  |-- /info
				  |
				  `-- /request


								 
I'm in the process of putting the proposal through to the others and 
if all goes well, it will be implemented this week. With several days 
warning prior of course. And when all has been said and done, I'll 
validate the long list of files piling up in the submit directory as 
well. :) 

And yes, we are considering making an Index file of some sort.

And since annoucements in comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard gets mirrored to the
Ultrasound mailing list, as well as the Gravis BBS. I'm only going to
post it here, and will check that this message gets across to the other
platforms as well.


Thomas.

P.S.
And no, I don't have a .sig. If I list all the things I do in my .sig,
it'll get flamed for wasting bandwidth. 8) So stop asking. ;)

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 93 00:14 GMT
From: Stephen Poston <sposton@cix.compulink.co.uk>
Message-Id: <memo.958082@cix.compulink.co.uk>
Subject: Using VGA DRAM, Midi Percussion patches, setup & gusmod problems
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

I just received my GUS a week ago (5days actually) and initially experienced
several problems that I thought may be of interest.

Firstly,  Opening the package was great, it had 512K.  It seemed that
the distributers may have placed the extra 256K on it because they were
different to the 1st 2 DRAM chips on it. (Bank 1 - Motorola MCM514256AP70,
Bank 2 - NEC D424256C-80)
I've now added a further 4 DRAM chips (Intel - P21014-08) from a ET4000 VGA
card.  They seem to work OK.

Secondly,  Installing the software was OK.  But when it came to using
various programs the problems started.

	1.  setup.exe   crashed my machine (i've the opti chipset)
					Solution:  Download the gus0007.exe with a new setup.exe
							   which should provide a solution. (I haven't
							   done this as I got a work around (In Digest 42)-

							   or better still try the following (same as D42)-
:

								SET ULTRASND=220,1,1,11,7
								E:\ULTRASND\ULTRINIT
								SET ULTRADIR=E:\ULTRASND
								SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 T1

							   You may want to experiment with the INT/DMA
							   levels yourself to suit your system but this
							   is what the setup.exe does if it works.
							   (Look at page 41 in the Ultrasound manual
								on Autoexec.bat, Manual Configuration)

	2.  patchmgr & No percussion patches
							   It seems that I got a duff/old set of disks
							   (V1.2 on the 6 disks).  It seems that there
							   is no percussion patches or even musicbox.pat
							   on the disks.
							   I was pretty anoyed that I had a GUS with 512K
							   and an OLD set of disks. (A friend who got
							   a 256K GUS atleast got V1.21 disks, which
							   have all the patches, last month
							   [different distributor though])
					Solution:  Send the reply card back and expect an update
							   (but don't expect anything too soon as Gravis
								seem to be preparing/updating patches
								& software for a new set of disks)
							   AND download or obtain from someone the
							   latest set of disk images. (I've got V1.21 now
							   with a few new bits from EPAS)

							   Try:-

							   ftp archive.epas.utoronto.ca (128.100.160.36)
							   cd /pub/pc/ultrasound/submit
							   (Find V1.22 disk images and various other
								latest bits and bobs)


	3.   gusmod1.XX & 2.01 don't seem to play some .mod files properly.
		 But GUSDAC does play the ones that have problems.
					Solution:  Probable in the buglist for GUSMOD and
							   someone's working on it.
							   Wait and see what comes out next, but continue
							   to use gusmod 2.XX.

Apart from the above, I seems to be a very good card.

Steve

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 93 23:01:24 +0200
From: Shmuel Gazit <keeper@ccsg.tau.ac.il>
Message-Id: <9302162101.AA22338@ccsg.tau.ac.il>
Subject: USS8
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

Hi,

could somebody explain why would USS8 record only one minute max ? I see
it pours anything straight to the disk, so whats the prob to continue
with this stream ? is there anything that WILL do it for how long that
I want ?

thanks
/Shmulik.

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Date: 12 Feb 93 17:23:29 GMT
From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion)
Message-Id: <1993Feb12.172329.3207@cc.umontreal.ca>
Subject: What was the consensus about the GUS 3D, and surround sound??
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

In article <C2B0u4.6pL@news.cso.uiuc.edu> csh45059@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (MAVERICK) writes:
>Was there a consensus as to whether the ultrasound 3D would
>work properly with a stereo reciever with Surround sound?
>I checked the FAQ, and digests, but could not really find
>a specific answer....

Ah ah! We didn't read the surround.txt file didn't we? It contains a simple
surround system (very easily designed) and it does say that you must turn the
rear speakers off if you use the 3D sound on the GUS. Check also the file
named 3D.txt also on archive.epas.utoronto.ca.

>My guess is that it would work, by 
>disabling surround sound mode...

Exactly. (Well of course i suppose your dolby receiver shuts the rear speakers
when not in surround).

Ciao,
--
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1993 07:51:15 -0500
From: mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen)
Message-Id: <9302161251.AA02306@sol4.cs.psu.edu>
Subject: Will the Gravis SDK be free like the PAS-16's?
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

  Anyone know if Gravis is planning on releasing their SDK free like Media
Vision with the PAS-16?
  If not, anyone game for trying to create one as a freeware project?
-- 
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				| spring our fond hopes and pure desires... |
 mchen@cs.psu.edu       | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92  |

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1993 19:38:41 -0700 (MST)
From: michael a finkel  <mfinkel@argon.GAS.uug.Arizona.EDU>
Message-Id: <Pine.3.05.9302161941.A8777-b100000@argon>
Subject: Windows problems still...
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

I got several responses to my last post about the message 'Invalid Patch
Version' appearing every twice time I start windows and my not being able
to get any sounds other than the system ones (i.e. no music through WinMod
or WinJammer).

They told me to copy the file midimap.cfg (or something like that) from my
ultrasound directory to my /windows/system directory.  I did this, and it
did not make a difference at all.  I still get the message twice and can
still not get music in windows.

I have an Intel 386-40 with 4 megs RAM, 16 bit DMA 1, IRQ 7, Base 220,
etc.. all the defaults in the setup.  I have installed the GUS0012 drivers
quite a long time ago, but that is what seemed to cause the Invalid Patch
messages.. but I didn't get ANY sound before that at all.

Please respond and hopefully we can solve this problem.

Thanks. 

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