Ultrasound Daily Digest     Fri, 27 Aug 93       Volume 5: Issue  26  

Today's Topics:
                  (More) Miscellaneous Rantings (tm)
                             .WAV format
                  Can't understand why you complain
                        GRAVIS BBS GONE WEIRD
                       Is that new gus out yet?
                               Midisoft
                   Motherboard chipsets w/GUS card
                      MRS Difficulties Revisited
            NT install with GUS resident + NT drivers plea
                    Power Chords Pro Feature List
                     Recording Session - useless
                             sbos setting
                         The Sound Newsletter
                    Ultrasound Daily Digest V5 #25
                 Using FTP sites for Ultrasound files
                       wav format (and others)

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 93 06:29:40 PDT
From: deraud@power.amasd.anatcp.rockwell.com (Robert Lee DeRaud)
Subject: (More) Miscellaneous Rantings (tm)
Message-ID: <9308261329.AA10418@power.amasd.anatcp.rockwell.com>

>From: Seymour <yaga@u.washington.edu>
>Subject: Midi Patch mixups

>     Lately, as I have been playing my midi files, there seems to have been
>some, er, confusion.  What happens is when a file is playing and a new
>instrument is used, almost always in the rhythm section, it is not the
>correct instrument.  For example, in jonbgood right after the intro when
>the bass comes in, the bass doesn't come in.  What _does_ come in is this
>really annoying dog bark and later on a whistle joins the fray.

Uh, I think the file in question is out of the 'Bert's Best' set and 
uses some 'Brand X' rhythm track mappings - Proteus and Roland D70, 
which are NOT GM-compliant. So, for example, the bass drum comes out as 
a dog bark etc. It is *conceptually* trivial to 're-map' the channel 10 
tracks to GM; from a practical standpoint, if all the drum parts are 
merged into a single track and all you have to work with is Recording 
Session, it's a TOTAL PAIN IN THE ASS!

Which segue's nicely to the next thread...

>From: aswani@sound.demon.co.uk (Robert Aswani)
>Subject: MidiSoft Recording Session Difficulties

>In reply to Bob Schmanski's letter regarding Midisoft Recording Session:

>If you've only got one meg of ram left in Windows, you should be getting out 
>of memory problems. If you've got a 386, create some virtual memory. Use the 
>386 enhanced option in the control pannel to do this.

True enough...

>As for your other problems in MRS, they are all to do with your system, your 
>system configuration and Mircrosoft's Windows. So don't blame Gravis and 
>Midisoft, they have supplied a perfectly good peice of software. 

...but there seem to be a LOT of people (myself included) with properly 
configured H/W and Windows that have had serious trouble with MRS. And 
it's not just a question of 'shareware' vs 'pro version' either: the 
troops at the local music stores have VERY strong opinions regarding the 
quality of Midisoft Studio for Windows - and NOT good ones either! The 
consensus of the People Who Know (tm) leans toward Cakewalk/WinCake or 
Encore/MusicTime/Trax; the only downside is the lack of patch-caching
support, which should cure itself in the next updates.

> From: jericho!gord (Gord Wait S-MOS Systems Vancouver Design Center)
> Subject: MidiSoft Recording Session Difficulties
> 
> I too had lots of problems with MRS, I stopped using it. Too bad,
> cause it looks like a decent user interface. I'll be spending my 
> cash on PowerChords Pro in a few weeks. 

As far as PowerChords is concerned, I confess I haven't used it that 
much as a full-up composer/sequencer tool, but IMHO it is a DYNAMITE 
tool for laying down complicated drum tracks for subsequent export to 
MusicTime. For that matter, I'm not sure that it IS usable as a primary 
sequencer, but I may be being put off by the user interface. (I had the 
same reaction to Texture 1.0, which gives you some idea how long I've 
been mucking about with this stuff :-). Can you say 'Paradigm Shift'?)

OTOH, it's not freeware or shareware, so customers (albeit
indirect) have a perfect right to complain about bugs...but NOT to bitch
because the Ford they bought doesn't have all the features of the 
Lincoln they thought they couldn't afford.
                             
>From: Alex Harden <harden@acsu.buffalo.edu>
>Subject: MODs

[MOD stuff deleted]
>i truly am clueless about this,

Yeah, but it could be worse: you could be posting to rec.motorcycles.

***********************************************************************
Lee DeRaud                             Will program Windows for food.
Rockwell Int. AESD                   (Hey, I'm easy but I'm not cheap!)
   DoD #985 - Fast and ugly beats slow and cute any day of the week.
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      My own opinions only, not those of Rockwell International.
   (Yeah, right: like anyone around here cares what *I* say...NOT!)
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 93 10:16:43 BST
From: Andy Hewett <ahewett@mround.bt.co.uk>
Subject: .WAV format
Message-ID: <350.9308260916@essex.mround.bt.co.uk>

talbot@info.polymtl.ca writes:

> Does anybody know where I can find some info about the .wav format ???

A colleague and I took apart some Windows 3.1 .WAV files and came up with the following
file format. As far as I can remember the data size didn't include the header size.
We never did find out exactly what the two flag fields were for but they were the same
for all the .WAV files we looked at. In case you're wondering, we wrote a utility to
convert Sun Audio files (.au) to .wav and vice-versa, just for fun :)

Note that we've broken the .WAV header down into 2 sub-headers for clarity.

Hope this is useful

Andy
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
/*
** Define RIFF sub header
*/
typedef struct
{
	char			riff_id[4];			/* this is always "RIFF" */
	unsigned long	size;				/* of following wave header and data */
} riff_subhdr_t;

/*
** Define WAVE sub header
*/
typdef struct
{
	char			wave_id[8];			/* this is always "WAVEfmt" */
	unsigned long	flags1;				/* this is always 16L */
	unsigned long	flags2;				/* this is always 65536L+1L */
	unsigned long	sample_rate1;		/* channel 1 sample rate */
	unsigned long	sample_rate2;		/* channel 2 sample rate */
	unsigned short	num_channels;		/* usually 1 for Windows */
	unsigned short	bits_per_sample;	
	char			data_id[4];			/* this is always "data" */
	unsigned long	data_size;			/* of following data */
} wave_subhdr_t;

/*
** This is the actual .WAV file header. 8-bit PCM data follows this.
*/
typedef struct
{
	riff_subhdr_t	riff_hdr;
	wave_subhdr_t	wave_hdr;
} wavHeader_t;

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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 93 14:37:09 -0400
From: "Momentary language, sexual situations" <dantonio@magick.tay2.dec.com>
Subject: Re: Can't understand why you complain
Message-ID: <9308261837.AA15922@magick.tay2.dec.com>

Eric,

>> Come on Gravis, either include software that works and is well coded
>> (not a quickly stripped down version of a commercial product), or don't
>> include any at all.

I didn't say this, I merely agreed with it.

[...]

> DDA, this is not the first time you have leapt to incorrect conclusions.
> The version of Power Chords bundled with the GUS was identical to the 
> full, regular version except for two things - we limited the instrument
> config features, and we set it up so it could only use the GUS drivers.
> This program has never been shareware, and was not stripped from the PRO
> version. At the time we delivered the software to Gravis, version 1.0 was
> all that was shipping, not 1.1 and not PRO. Version 1.0 listed for $85.00
> I'd say that GUS customers got a good deal.

I dare say that I'm not the only one leaping to conclusions. The
message I posted was directed to both MidiSoft AND Howling Dog (and
implicitly Gravis) . I never claimed PowerChords was shareware
(although I believe that a previous version WAS, as I remember trying
it out once, although that could have been a demo); That comment
concerned WConvert, which didn't seem to work as intended. So, why did
you limit the instrument config features?

> Flaming companies when you don't know the facts is not a 'cool' thing
> either. When someone wants to know how to do something using our software
> and the GUS version doesn't have the feature, and the PRO version does, of
> course I am going to point it out. I'm not forcing them to buy the darn
> thing, am I?

And which facts are am I ignorant of? Given past digest messages about
MidiSoft and PowerChords, it's clear these are not the regular
versions of either program. Now I will say that PowerChords seems to
be missing very few things, but my message concerned both programs.
And yes, I expect you'll mention that a feature is available in the
PRO version.

>> Either include full-featured versions of software that WORKS or don't
>> include anything. Getting shareware (wconvert.exe) or "stripped" programs
>> doesn't reflect well on anyone, especially Gravis...

> Our software is not a 'quickly stripped down' version or poorly coded.
> And it isn't 'free' either. Gravis has spent a lot of money to get these
> bundled programs out to its users. 

WConvert was shareware and MidiSoft appears to be "quickly stripped
down", judging from the help file/feature mismatches. And I remember
poeple "hitting the wall" in PowerChords regarding number of measures
(I think), although this doesn't appear to be only with the GUS
version. And, from my point of view, this is "free" software in that I
don't have to pay for it.

For what it's worth, I will say that, of the bundled software,
PowerChords seems to be in the best shape.

> Eric Bell, Howling Dog Systems

DDA

P.S. I complain because I want this soundboard to succeed and I see things
that stand in the way of that, I'd like them fixed.

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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 93 14:35:08 
From: matthew.arbeid@deepcove.com
Subject: GRAVIS BBS GONE WEIRD
Message-ID: <9308261435.A0462wk@deepcove.com>

Hello All...
 
Just a little announcement from Gravis...
 
As of today, Thursday...untill Monday the Gravis BBS will be acting weird.
 
Let me explain.  John Smith has gone to a BBS Convention in Colorado, and so,
naturally, our BBS/Internet system went on the fritz.  (In fact, I beleive that
there are now a number of systems around North America that have gone flakey
because their sysops are at this darn convention).
 
So...till he comes back you can continuue to e-mail us...but don't expect a
response till Monday.
 
Sorry...
 
Matthew Arbeid
Advanced Gravis Tech Support Group
matthew@gravis.com (when working) :-)

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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 93 19:43:05 GMT
From: thomasvk@blackhl.hacktic.nl (Thomas van Kuipers)
Subject: Is that new gus out yet?
Message-ID: <iu3B0B5w165w@blackhl.hacktic.nl>

Hi gusers,

I heard a few weeks ago something was launched for gus at the comdex 
meeting in the summer. What was it?

In which stadium are the os/2 mmpm/2 gus-native drivers yet? (alpha/beta 
or other messures to give a date to launch it for real)

Thomas

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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 13:02:09 -0400
From: gord@jericho (Gord Wait S-MOS Systems Vancouver Design Center)
Subject: Midisoft
Message-ID: <9308261702.AA16539@smos.bc.ca>

aswani@sound.demon.co.uk (Robert Aswani) writes:

>As for your other problems in MRS, they are all to do with your system, your 
>system configuration and Mircrosoft's Windows. So don't blame Gravis and 
>Midisoft, they have supplied a perfectly good peice of software. 
 
I didn't run out of memory in my experience with MRS. I loaded a midi file,
did a simple cut and paste, saved it out to disk, and found that the results
were trashed: Some notes got duplicated or triplicated in the event list,
some of those with duration times of 0, others with duration times set to
the entire song length, (When there should have been a single quarter note at 
the particular event time), And many other bizzare artifacts. 

These kind of problems are internal to the program, and can not be blamed 
on the Gus, my system, or windows. These kinds of problems show bugs in the
handling of the midi data inside the program. 

I don't blame Gravis, but I do blame Midisoft.
                            

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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 02:30:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: I/We are Gaia <gaia@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Motherboard chipsets w/GUS card
Message-ID: <Pine.3.05z.9308260219.A22842-a100000@carson.u.washington.edu>

I will be buying a new motherboard to upgrade from my 386DX/25 C&T
chipset.  I haven't had any problems with DMA with this chipset, but am
worried about when I upgrade..  It will be a VLB 486DX/50 or DX2/50 or 66,
haven't really decided yet..  So far I have found to avoid the following
chipsets to be safe...

Opti
UMC
Hint

What chipsets have been deemed safe??  I have heard about SIS, any others??
I know it isn't a for sure but as close as possible to being safe, at
least a reccomendation please..  Thanx..

Reply email

gaia@carson.u.washington.edu

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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 93 15:57:38 CDT
From: Robert Schmanski <Robert.Schmanski@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: MRS Difficulties Revisited
Message-ID: <9308262057.AA07816@mixcom.mixcom.com>

>In reply to Bob Schmanski's letter regarding Midisoft Recording Session:
>
>If you've only got one meg of ram left in Windows, you should be getting out 
>of memory problems. If you've got a 386, create some virtual memory. Use the 
>386 enhanced option in the control pannel to do this.
>
	What I said (or at least what I meant) was, I had one meg of memory
left free AFTER loading Recording Session and all the other necessaries (like 
the Clock).  Even when it (session) said "OUT OF MEMORY" I quickly switched 
to program manager selected "About Program Manager" from the "Help" menu item 
(which includes a display of free memory) and it reported 1 MEG FREE.  NOTE: 
Recording Session was still active when I did this mem check.  So to make
myself more clear, Recording Session was reporting "Out of Memory" when it 
had at least 1 meg of FREE MEMORY to work with.

>As for your other problems in MRS, they are all to do with your system, your 
>system configuration and Mircrosoft's Windows. So don't blame Gravis and 
>Midisoft, they have supplied a perfectly good peice of software. 
>                             
	Sorry, but my idea of a perfectly good piece of software is not one 
that locks up Windows, reports false "Out Of Memory" messages, corrupts midi 
files, and causes Windows Kernel errors.  These things shouldn't happen no 
matter what system/setup/config you have.  Note: I have a normal 
system/setup/config.  If those were the true cause, then everyone with a 
similar system/setup/config would be having the same problems, and Midisoft
would still be to blame because their software should work on an average
system like mine.
	By the way how can you make such a judgement about all the problems 
being due to my system/configuration/Windows, since you don't really know 
how I have my system set up?  You didn't even know that I have a 386, which 
I would abviously have to in order to use the UltraSound under Windows (ie. 
the UltraSound drivers require 386 protected mode.)  
	And I seriously doubt that the three of four other people who have 
already concurred with my evaluation/experiences of Recording Session have 
exactly the same system/config that I do.  
	As for blaming it on Windows, that's a good justification because 
Midisoft was the one to chose to put their program under Windows, not me.
I would have preferred a DOS based sequencer.  (NOTE: If anyone knows of a 
decent shareware DOS-based sequencer that works with GUS, LET ME KNOW!!)
If they can't program for Windows properly, then don't program for it.  
Blaming Windows for not running a Windows based program is like blaming 
MS-DOS for a program that didn't work right under DOS.
	Why are you defending MRS when it's obvious, from things like the 
numerous (I've counted over 10) errors in the help file stating options that
don't exist (in the GUS version), as well as testimonials from other users 
with similar problems, that the program wasn't derived very carefully from 
the commerical version?  It's not like I'm the only one having these 
problems with MRS.

NOTE:  I am not ripping on you, just stating logical conclusions that I, as
well as others, have come to.
NOTE:  I never said anything about the functionality of Power Chords, DDA 
(dantonio) was the one who mentioned difficulties with it.  I never really
use the program.
NOTE:  I still haven't heard a reply from Gravis or Midisoft yet.

>                             
>                                                 
>                      |        Robert Aswani       |
>                      |                            |
>                      |  Aswani@Sound.Demon.Co.Uk  |
--
Bob Schmanski
Email Adress: Robert.Schmanski@mixcom.com
	  or: bschmans@solaria.mil.wi.us

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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 93 08:53:21 -0700
From: Bob Beck <rbk@sequent.com>
Subject: NT install with GUS resident + NT drivers plea
Message-ID: <9308261553.AA13310@eng2.sequent.com>

I've installed both the March NT Beta (twice) and the released version on my
PC with a GUS also in the PC with no problems (i486, 16MB RAM, non-OPTi chip
set).  My problem is that the GUS is rather silent when I'm running NT (which
is most of the time now; much nicer than Win3.1 for lots of reasons, BTW).

Sooo... any idea when there might be NT drivers?  Or, should I sell my GUS
and buy a card supported by NT (ie, an (ugh) SB) ??  I can wait a little
while (maybe a couple of months), but I'll get tired of that.  No flames
about OS/2 drivers, please; I understand folks have been patiently awaiting
those as well.

						- Bob (rbk@sequent.com)

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Date: 26 Aug 93 09:29:35 EDT
From: "Eric Bell, Howling Dog Systems" <71333.2166@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Power Chords Pro Feature List
Message-ID: <930826132934_71333.2166_DHQ56-2@CompuServe.COM>

>> James Andrews <james@vortex1.exeter.ac.uk>

>>Midisoft studio doesnt have *any* killer features and crashes all the time.
>>At least Powerchords has a good drum rhythm thing.

>>Mr. Howling Dog should write a big list of all the features that his new Pro
>>version has and post it on here. Im a bit dubious about buying software that
>>I havent even seen described.  For instance if Im going to pay out even a 
>>small amount of cash like $75 the flippin' midi import-export had better be
>>a bit more flexible and even user friendly than in the version bundled with
>>the GUS.  Will the string bending on the instrument be recordable?  I could
>>go on....

> James, 
> Here is the a list of features new in Power Chords Pro. Wish we had more 
> room on the upgrade flyer to describe it.

> - 16 melodies parts per bar

> - smart drag'n drop editing in the Rhythm Editor. This means copying notes,
> quick transposition, time shifting, moving drum parts from one instrument to
> another etc. etc. You can adjust all facets of a rhythm while in the rhythm
> editor - upper and lower bounds, length in bars, patch, channel etc.

> 'Lock' mode lets you combine parts of any type, or convert parts from one
> type to another.

> - Power Effects - automatically create up strums, down strums, alternating
> strums, random notes, humanize velocity, quantize, drum and mallet rolls,
> arpeggios at the click of a button.

> - on-screen keyboard for melodies, or chords. Transpose chords between the
> fret-board and keyboard.

> - You can record any type of part from either the fret-board, on screen
> keyboard, or MIDI input. This means you can strum the strings to create a
> chord rhythm. 

> - New melody record mode on fretboard - Yes, you can record string bending
> into a melody. 

> - record chord progressions in real time by clicking on chords in the chord
> palette with the right mouse button

> - import parts with pre-audition from any Power Chords file.

> - import parts from MIDI files (including drum parts, and chord rhythms).
> Convert MIDI information freely to any type of part. The import window shows
> a bar by bar representation of the imported MIDI data - you can audition
> tracks or subtracks with the right mouse button, and bring in as much or as
> little as you want.

> Drum parts that are spread across more than one track are automatically
> consolidated in an additional track for easy import.

> - import MIDI info from the clipboard (from Cakewalk, Winjammer, etc.)

> - export rhythm editor or song to either a MIDI file, or the clipboard for
> import into Cakewalk, Winjammer etc.

> - button bar access to all windows. No more dicking around with iconized
> windows, no more losing windows, or having to select them from the menu just
> to find them.

> - expanded song length and palette capacities.

> - new 'compressed' song display

> - Chord rhythms now contain patch change and midi channel information so
> you can easily change patches in the chord part any time you want.

> Whew. Hope this gives you the info you need, James. We also have a set of
> drum patterns available for sale. If you want info on that, let me know.
> FWIW, more than 256K on the GUS RAM is recommended for this product, so
> you will have room for piles o' patches.

> Mr. Howling Dog, Eric Bell

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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 10:34:57 +0930 (CST)
From: Gavin <SCARMAN@hfrd.dsto.gov.au>
Subject: Recording Session - useless
Message-ID: <930827103457.e4ed@hfrd.dsto.gov.au>

Just to add my 2c worth, MRS is a pain loading standard midifiles because it is 
so sloooowww. No music software should treat standard midifiles as an alien 
thing that requires drastic conversion to get into an editable form, which MRS 
obviously feels it does. And it badly needs a option to ignore the staff 
'feature', it slows the system down too much and is a sloppy way of editing. 
Midisoft, go and look at Cakewalk for windows and see how a real sequencing 
program should run, or even Winjammer for that matter. MRS is just too much 
work.

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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 93 02:24:21 PDT
From: zorro%40607.hepnet@Lbl.Gov
Subject: sbos setting
Message-ID: <930826022421.2020ac20@Lbl.Gov>

Hi

i'm a new users of GUS it's fantastic and SBOS work not bad, the problem

is which switch use with it, so if i don't make mistake i have seen in a

file some day ago all the setting for a lot of games, so if someone have it

or know where i can take it (on ftp sites) or the name of it or can send it to

me, i'll thank you for all life.

actually i'm not subscribe to the list but i'll do it very soon.

my email address is zorro@v8550.ias.fra.cnr.it

thanks

Claudio Soprano from Italy

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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 93 14:02:57 HST
From: David Komatsu <davek@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu>
Subject: The Sound Newsletter
Message-ID: <CMM.0.90.2.746409777.davek@uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu>

Just dropping a line to let everybody know that the Sound Newsletter is
available for anonymous FTP from...

oak.oakland.edu (misc/sound)
garbo.uwasa.fi  (pc/sound)
sound.usach.cl  (pub/sound/newsletters)

I have listed the contents below of course this is the debut of the GUS
column by Michael Sutter.  

In Issue #15
-------------
o Special Thanks
o Do you want to announce a new product?
o Feature Articles
  o The Sound Site Network
o News
  o Sound.usach.cl (Update)
  o NSF Research project help
o Columns
  o The Gus Gallery by Michael Sutter
    o Ultra Tracker
    o CoolEdit
  o Multisound by Kevin Whalen
o Sound Bits
  o MODCLEAN: Clean up the unused samples in your MOD files
o Anonymous FTP sound Sites
o Bulletin Board Listing


-----> Dave

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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 15:10:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Phat H Tran <ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V5 #25
Message-ID: <Pine.3.05.9308261523.C18482-c100000@sciborg>

> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 20:37:05 -0400 (EDT)
> From: CWSMART@delphi.com
> Subject: Answers to Digest
> Message-ID: <01H26BUMISUW99FEYO@delphi.com>
> 
> nswers to Digest questions"
> I enjoy reading the questions asked and problems expressed--but I do not
> see very many answers being posted.  Is there a reason for this.  I sell
> the GUS boards and many of the questions asked and problems posed could
> and do come up at times I'd like to be able to provide answers.  Do you
> provide the answers to the sender privately or can be subscribe
> to that side of the program?  
> 

Sometimes the same questions are asked so frequently that people get 
tired of answering them.  You can find the answers to these questions
in the FAQ (frequently asked questions) that Matthew has compiled.
Other times, no one knows the answer.

> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 12:41:04 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Seymour <yaga@u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Midi Patch mixups
> Message-ID: <Pine.3.05z.9308251204.A25485-a100000@carson.u.washington.edu>
> 
>      Lately, as I have been playing my midi files, there seems to have been
> some, er, confusion.  What happens is when a file is playing and a new
> instrument is used, almost always in the rhythm section, it is not the
> correct instrument.  For example, in jonbgood right after the intro when
> the bass comes in, the bass doesn't come in.  What _does_ come in is this
> really annoying dog bark and later on a whistle joins the fray.

It seems that one or more of the melodic tracks in the MIDI file are on
the GUS' percussion channel.  The GUS drivers usually reserve channel 10
for the percussions.  Some MIDI files use channel 16 instead.  Use a
sequencer such as WinJammer to switch the channels around to see if they
song will sound better.

Also, I notice that you mention jonbgood.mid.  The version I have of this
file was not arranged for General MIDI, and thus, will not play properly
on the GUS.  If you are fooling around with the MIDI files in rsierra.zip,
which is where my jonbgood file came from, you should note that none of 
them are for GM.

> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 15:50:07 -0400
> From: Alex Harden <harden@acsu.buffalo.edu>
> Subject: MODs
> Message-ID: <199308251950.PAA23925@lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu>
>
[...] 
> what i would define as a "decent user interface" given my glimpse at the
> scrolling info that Gusmod gives would be one where one could first create
> a table of patches ("samples" in this genre?) and then edit each "piece" of
> music (the 4-channel scroll) in a spreadsheet format.  are there different
> MOD formats that use more than 4 channels?  doesn't the GUS have 32 channels?
>

There is a 32-channel composer called Ultra Tracker that uses a "spreadsheet"
layout.  Version 1.30 is the latest I'm aware of.  Check the index on Epas
to see where it's located.

If you would like to stick with 4-channel MODs, GUS Tracker 1.03 may be
what you want.  It's in the submit directory on Epas (filename gustr103.arj).

Phat.

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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 21:00:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: CWSMART@delphi.com
Subject: Using FTP sites for Ultrasound files
Message-ID: <01H27QW4J0DE8Y55ET@delphi.com>

I suppose its dense gray matter. Can someone give me a step by step to det
to those great FTP files.  Now I can get the ther server.  For example, I
got to the "archive.epas.utoronto.ca" server.  But now what?  Every command
I try gets me no where.  The address I have been reading for this server for
the files is "pub/pc/ultrasound" but nothing happens when I use it.  The
server doesnt recoqnize the command.  Maybe there is a helper f




[CThe server doesnt recognize the command.

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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 10:38:18 +0930 (CST)
From: Gavin <SCARMAN@hfrd.dsto.gov.au>
Subject: Re: wav format (and others)
Message-ID: <930827103818.c5d2@hfrd.dsto.gov.au>

For info on sound file formats get the FAQ from ftp.cs.ruu.nl [131.211.80.17] in 
directory MIDI/DOC/archives

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