GUS Daily Digest            Wed, 20 Apr 94  9:37 PST     Volume 12: Issue  20 

Today's Topics:
						   32 channel doom
					 Apogee = Native GUS Support!
							  AWEful 32
					   Bookshelf 93 and GUS???
							  CD For GUS
						  CGW "blind tests"
					   Creative Slabs adverts.
					Gateway Pentium P5-60 and SBOS
				  GUS/MOUSE/PAS/CDROM question again
				  GUS Daily Digest V12 #19 (4 msgs)
							  GUSgripe!
					 GUS MAX has better patches?
					   GUS USERS: Please Read!
 In what sense is more than 4 digital channels in Doom a red herring?
						  Media player again
					more on Media Player responses
						 MPEG compression ...
					mplayer cannot play CD's?????
				  Netware 3.12 VLMS and GUS oops :)
				  No sound in Beneath a steel sky???
						  Qemm 7.03 Problems
						  Reading CD audio?
		   SONY SRS-D4K vs AR Powered Partners 570 Speakers
						   Two Sound Cards
				 Where can I get a 16 bit rec dboard?
				   Will SB AWE32 make GUS obsolete?
						   Windows CD Audio

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 09:14:33 CST
From: mcavity@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU
Subject: 32 channel doom

This is NOT a "red hareing" or whateever.. you realy can do it..
endit the doom cfg or ini file.. [dont remember which and am not at my teminal]
but once you do this you will notice some diffrances in music as well as
sound.. [drums on starting the game not just a "thunk"] the file is text based
ans has the line is something like sfx=4 which you change to sfx=32 and it
works good.. [actuly i think you can do sfx=99 buti havent tried it..i think it
would just keep reducing the sound quality with mixing..and anyway I dont think
you can realy get all 32 going and still be alive..except maybe at the end of
knee deep ... I will have to try that..
Mcavity
-still pi&&ed at diamond stealth pro..I just wont work with a gus...

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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 23:29:30 -0400
From: ap641@cleveland.freenet.edu (Hank Leukart)
Subject: Apogee = Native GUS Support!

	ATTENTION ALL GUS USERS! (I guess that's all of you :))

	I just got word that Hocus Pocus from Apogee will be modified
and will now support the GUS, General MIDI, Roland, PAS-16, and more!
And, it will support EIGHT digital channels.

	Hocus Pocus is a VGA-256 Super Mario Bros. type game, where
you must fight off a huge amount of enemies with your lightning bolt spell.
Includes beautifully drawn backgrounds created by Cygnus (Galactix, Raptor).

	If you'd like to know more about Hocus Pocus, you can read the preview
of it in Game Bytes #17.  The preview says only SB support, but the actual
game will support the GUS, General MIDI, Roland, PAS-16, and other sound
cards.
-Hank Leukart

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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 16:14:00 -0600
From: ddrolet@traider.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dean Drolet)
Subject: Re: AWEful 32

>> product, but I am curious about one thing:  everyone is ranting and raving 
>> about this "upgradable to 28 megs" - but nobody has ever mentioned whether 
>> that is 28 megabytes, or megabits.  Of course megabytes is assumed, but 
>> remember, they called their 500k of memory "4 megabits".  
>
>Believe it or not, the box actually says 28 megaBYTES.  I'm sure
>that's a typo--either that, or CL is just clueless.

Actually there are 2 SIMM slots on the card that are capable of taking 2
16MB SIMMS but the card is only capable of addressing 28 MBs.  A friend
of mine sells them.  He told me to stay away from it as the driver
problems that we had a few years ago has hit the AWE 32 with MUCH
greater force than it ever hit the GUS users :)  Looks like CL wants to
"emulate" us :)

Dean
---
ddrolet@traider.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dean Drolet) 
A Proud part of Net Logic Incorporated!
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.                         

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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 15:11:26 -0700
From: akumar@hposl00.cup.hp.com (Arun)
Subject: Bookshelf 93 and GUS???

Hi everyone,

However, I am having problems with Bookshelf 93. I do not get any sound
during the Bookshelf demos except for some clicks.

I have a Zeos Pantera system which has on board audio. 

I am not sure whats wrong because:
-On board audio has been disabled with SETUP. Though it could be possible
 this is messing things up and confusing Bookshelf.
-Media Player is able to play midi and .snd files thru the GUS.
-New Groliers Encyclopedia does play sound thru the GUS.
-SBOS has been installed. I have  a SOUNDBLASTER entry in the autoexec.bat
 file.
-I have install 2.06 files for the GUS.
-I have chosen Ultrasound_256 as the midi mapper.
-I am using the audio output from the GUS.
-I do not think I have any DMA/IRQ conflicts. 
-win.ini has an entry for WAVE=ultrasound
-CD-ROM audio is thru a dedicated controller card. I am not using its 
 audio output.

Any suggestions. 
Thanks a bunch.
Arun Kumar

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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 09:55:52 -0500 (CDT)
From: vic@cd.com (Vic Serbe x237)
Subject: Re: CD For GUS

> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 12:39:21 -0500 (EST)
> From: DINESH@Vax2.Concordia.CA
> Subject: CD For GUS
>  
> Hi Fellow GUSERS,
>  
>         I would like to purchase a CD ROM, but I am not sure 
> what model I should get.  Does anyone have any idea about a good
> one that work well with the GUS.  THANKS
>  
>         *****HAPPY GUSING*****   DINESH
 
I've had real good luck with the CL "Omni CD".  It's not the quickest CD
in the double speed market (320ms ave access, 300K/sec), but it can be had
for under $200 mail-order US, and comes with Aldus Photostyler SE, which I
like very much.  It also comes with a controller, which doesn't require
any IRQ's, which makes it easy to configure, and also allows me to add the
16bit daughter board to the GUS (remember, it's EITHER 16bit sampling OR
CD controller as an add-on to the GUS).

Some other nice things about it are:
 -----------------------------------
The controller not only has the audio out in a stereo mini-plug, but
also comes with a little external audio jumper cable.  You route the
audio from the CD drive to the CD controller internally with the
supplied cable, and then just jumper the audio out to the GUS' audio
in, externally, again, with a supplied cable.  This works great for
me.  I've got CD, MIDI, and Digital sounds all going out of the GUS on
one line to my mixer.

Also, there is an external CD bus connector on the card, which may come
in handy if you ever add a second drive, but have no more free drive bays.

-- 
Vic Serbe (vic@cd.com), Applications Engineer
Central Data Corp. - Makers of the scsiTerminal Server
800/482-0315 or (+1) 217/359-8010 (FAX-6904)

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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 13:27:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: "George A. Montemayor" <gmontem@eis.calstate.edu>
Subject: Re: CGW "blind tests"

>   In response to an article posted by mrogers@afit.af.mil
> about "blind test" comparisons of various sound cards,
> I question CGW's testing system and the software they used.
> I bought an Aria sound card before (and after!) my GUS.  It's
> a long story, but I don't have an Aria anymore.  The Aria had 512K
> of samples in ROM and no RAM for onboard samples.  MIDI songs
> sounded absolutely horrendous.  Not only was the Aria's amp of
> lower quality, the samples were barely better than FM
> synthesized garbage.  I can't speak for the other wavetable
> cards, but the GUS is definitely better than the Aria 512K.
> CGW must have tested the GUS entirely using SBOS, or the
> tested subjects were paid off by Sierra 
> Semiconductor.                       

Hmmm... Could be. Also, they probably tested a GUS with 256k or a GUS 
with 1MB but playing in 8-bits (conserve memory mode).  Or maybe they 
played a log. volumed MIDI file over a GUS midi player that plays 
linear volumed MIDI files (or vice versa).  Gotta speak with that guy.  
If he wants to showcase the sound cards, he gotta do it 
himself and not let others do it and meddle with it.  

Oh ya, what does he by a "blind" test?  

-George

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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 10:45:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Public Image <scall@ccnet.com>
Subject: Creative Slabs adverts.

I think we need Gravis to wake up a bit and start advertising in more 
markets.

In the San Francisco Bay Area, both Creative and Mediavision run radio ads.

-Scott

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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 00:36:01 -0500
From: Sesterhenn Steven J <ssesterh@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Gateway Pentium P5-60 and SBOS

	I bought my superCow Pentium 60 2 months ago, and have MOUSE 8.20.  I
use the mouse that plugs into the PS/2 style port; I assume that it is serial.
I have problems with SBOS working when the mouse drive is loaded: XWing won't
work at all, and Alone in the Dark gets all screwed up beyond believe this way.
W/o the mouse driver, SBOS seems to run almost flawlessly.  The new v.3.8 is
much improved over 2.x.
	Thanks to whomever posted the original message.  Any updates on what
Gateway is doing about this?  Will an updated or older mouse driver fix the
problem?  Not loading my mouse driver everytime I want to use SBOS is a pain
obviously.  Any news about this yet?
	Thanks to all who can and have helped here....

	Steve Sesterhenn

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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 19:42:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dylan Nicolle <dnicolle@tcsgi.mhs.mendocino.k12.ca.us>
Subject: GUS/MOUSE/PAS/CDROM question again

I need to figure this out fast, and since my previous post didn't seem to 
get me any help, i'll try again.
I have an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro 2meg, with the port mouse, and I bought 
myself a gus, after using a Pas+. I also have a Toshiba 3401 
connected to the pas. The problem is that the gus has some pretty bad SB 
emulation, so i want to be able to have both cards running at the same 
time. My mouse is at 23Ch, i want the pas to be at 220, and it would 
seem that the gus would work at 240... nada, the gus seems to not respond 
to Ultrinit when i have the cdrom drivers loaded, which is wierd since 
the tscdlr.sys driver says the host card is at 384h, which shouldn't 
conflict with any other cards. I checked the irqs and dmas, and they dotn 
conflict. There just doesn't seem to be anything wrong, but nothing 
works. What gives? has anyone been able to get more that one card in 
there? I never use my // port, so i have it disabled, to avoid any extra 
conflicts...

And also, where the hell is the SCSI card for the gus? and when will it 
come out at what price?

_________________________________________
|               Dylan Nicolle            |    
| dnicolle@198.120.7.186                 |
|________________________________________|

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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 00:58:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Phat H Tran <ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V12 #19

> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 19:30:33 +0000
> From: Chrysolite <chrys@ozspace.brisnet.org.au>
> Subject: 16-bit recording db problems
> 
> Ok...  I received it today; I have an UltraSound V2.2.  On the box it says
> `Ultrasound Card Required For v2.4/v3.4/v3.7'?  When I try to plug it into
> the UltraSound, C57 on the UltraSound collides with the bank of C4, C5, C9
> and C23 on the DB.   Do I need a different board for V2.2?   The capacitor
> doesn't want to bend over;  C57 is right in the  middle of the bank of the
> other four on the DB.

There's a problem with mechanical fit with the DB and rev 2.2 GUSes.
The solution is to dig out a soldering iron and move the capacitors
to the back of the GUS.  Watch the + and - leg orientations for the
capacitors.

> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 10:32:45 -0700
> From: akumar@hposl00.cup.hp.com (Arun)
> Subject: general questions on GUS
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I bought the GUS over the weekend. Right now I am totally
> fascinated  by the crystal clear sound. 
> 
> My board version is 3.4. There are 2 internal audio connectors 
> on the board - 3 pin and 4 pin respectively.  
> 
> Questions:
> 1. Can you use only one of the internal connectors?

No sure, but probably this is the case.

> 2. Does anyone have a pin-out diagram describing each connector? 

On a revision 3.7 the pins are Left Ground Right and Right Ground
Ground Left when you hold the card with its edge connector towards
you.  I expect the pins on a 3.4 to be the same.

> I would like a audio cable from the Mitsumi CD-ROM to the GUS.
> Currently the cable is hooked to the interface card. 
> I think the audio cable provided by the CD-ROM is lousy  because
> the output from the CD-ROM interface card has lot of hum (when
> hooked to my home stereo). Any suggestions on where I could get a
> good audio cable to connect the Mitsumi CD-ROM and  the GUS.

Take the metal sleeves out of their plastic package and slip then
directly onto the GUS' CD audio pins.  Note that the Mitsumi 
plastic connector has the wires arranged in R G L G fashion, so
be sure to switch the order around when you connect them to the
GUS' pins.

> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 17:09:16 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Phat H Tran <ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>
> Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V12 #17
>
[...] 
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 19:07:49 -0500 (CDT)
> > From: Antonio Guia <guia@cc.umanitoba.ca>
> > Subject: Problems: constant clicking
> > 
> > While the computer is turned on, there's an occasional click which comes
> > through the speakers (or short boom actually)   It sounds the same as when
[...]
> 
> Pops on power-up and initialization are the norm (especially power-ups)
> for audio equipment.  

Sorry, Antonio, I think I misread your question.  The clicks occur 
while your PC is on, not during powerup?  Clicks are to be expected
when drivers (e.g. Windows) initialize the GUS.  If they occur when
no initialization is going on, then there's a problem.

> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 10:19:11 GMT
> From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
> Subject: Media Player IS a CDROM player!
> 
> >Surprise!  Media Player is not a CD ROM player, so it will never play
> >music CDs, with any sound card.  You want to get a separate program for
> >that.
> 
> Probably one of thousands of messages today to say "Oh yes it is!".

Literally thousands!  I'm glad I didn't say anything about. :)

> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 94 16:42:27 PDT
> From: jsousa@instruct.CapCollege.BC.CA (Jason Sousa)
> Subject: unsubscribe
[...]

> To (un)subscribe or get help:     <gus-general-request@mail.orst.edu>
(Not here.)

Phat.

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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 08:37:13 +0300
From: Yossi Oren <LIOREN1@WEIZMANN.weizmann.ac.il>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V12 #19

>Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 12:39:21 -0500 (EST)
>From: DINESH@Vax2.Concordia.CA
>Subject: CD For GUS
>
>Hi Fellow GUSERS
>
>        I would like to purchase a CD ROM, but I am not sure
>what model I should get.  Does anyone have any idea about a good
>one that work well with the GUS.  THANKS
>
Mail sales@gravis.com and order the Sony CD.  It costs 200 bucks, an
outrageous price for a double-speed, and you get free CDs and an interface
card for the GUS too.
Yossi.

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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 08:43:47 +0300
From: Yossi Oren <LIOREN1@WEIZMANN.weizmann.ac.il>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V12 #19

>Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 12:08:51 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Bryon Thur <bhthur@watarts.uwaterloo.ca>
>Subject: Sim City 2000
>
> I'm sorry for asking this again (I remember seeing info on it not too
>long ago, but ignored it), but how is it possible to get sound playing
>SC2000. I have tried setting the sound options at a number of different
>settings, and have played around with the IRQ's etc, but no luck.

You need to run LOADPATS before playing the game.  That is, if you have the
AIL32 drivers installed.  If you haven't, get GAIL3214.ZIP from ORST.  The
readme specifically adresses SC2K.
Yossi.

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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 08:43:47 +0300
From: Yossi Oren <LIOREN1@WEIZMANN.weizmann.ac.il>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V12 #19

>Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 12:08:51 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Bryon Thur <bhthur@watarts.uwaterloo.ca>
>Subject: Sim City 2000
>
> I'm sorry for asking this again (I remember seeing info on it not too
>long ago, but ignored it), but how is it possible to get sound playing
>SC2000. I have tried setting the sound options at a number of different
>settings, and have played around with the IRQ's etc, but no luck.

You need to run LOADPATS before playing the game.  That is, if you have the
AIL32 drivers installed.  If you haven't, get GAIL3214.ZIP from ORST.  The
readme specifically adresses SC2K.
Yossi.

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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 07:23:37 EDT
From: Akintunde Omitowoju <ZAO1@ETSU.EAST-TENN-ST.EDU>
Subject: GUSgripe!

Hi all,
I just have a comment to say about the GUS.  Since I've been subscribed to
this digest, majority of the messages I've been reading are complaining
about something wrong or not working properly with the GUS.  Well, I haven't
had much time to tinker with mine (since school just zaps my time), but to
be frankly honest, I've never had a single problem with my GUS since the day
I bought, sure there might be a few quirks here or there, but no problems.

Most of the problems I believe that arise with the GUS is the software and how
it is written.  I've never seen one message saying that they couldn't get
Future Crew's Second Reality demo running with their GUS.  It's just a matter
of whose writing software.  To me, it seems some game companies and just
making tinker toy GUS drivers which really don't work, and aren't making an
effort to program this card (and from what I've read, it seems quite simple).
All I have to say is that for those of us who program the GUS, we should do
our best to make sure we bring the best out of the card.  Otherwise, we'll
be *always* facing and reading reviews saying that the GUS isn't a great
sound card that it *REALLY* is.

Akintunde Omitowoju
zao1@etsu.bitnet           (BitNet)
zao1@etsu.east-tenn-st.edu (InterNet)

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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 11:52:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: "George A. Montemayor" <gmontem@eis.calstate.edu>
Subject: GUS MAX has better patches?

I read from the GUS MAX ad that it can do hardware compression and 
compress sound up to 4 times its original length. Now, is it possible for 
the GUS MAX to be able to compress all 192+ patches using its hardware 
compression and uncompress on the fly during a MIDI playback, etc.?  If 
so, then perhaps that is the reason why the GUS MAX still can handle up to 
1 MEG of memory.  With the hardware compression, the patches can be the 
same size as the original GUS patches but sound better because when 
uncompressed they are actually 2-3 times bigger. I dunno.  Don't spread 
this around like a rumor.  This is just a question.

-George

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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 17:09:28 +1000
From: s2102949@cse.unsw.edu.au (David Khoury)
Subject: GUS USERS: Please Read!

OK, I picked up this message from News under the comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard subject.
Read it!!

 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
OK, how about a little survey?  All I want is to make a quick & dirty
estimate of how many GUS owners are out there.  I know that it won't
be completely accurate because not all GUS owners are on the Net,
but...

If you currently own a GUS (i.e. you bought it and have not returned
it), please reply to this message...BUT BE SURE TO REPLY TO MY E-MAIL
ADDRESS, NOT THE WHOLE NET!  USE THE 'REPLY' FUNCTION, NOT THE
'FOLLOW-UP' FUNCTION!

Each reply will be counted as one owner; if you own two GUSes, they
count as one (sorry).  I suppose you could 'cheat' and reply from
several different e-mail addresses, but the idea here is to get a
rough idea of how many GUSes are out there, so please don't try to
screw up the stats...

I'll post the answers in about two weeks...

Thanks for cooperating!
-Dave Read

 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------


The E-mail address for this guy is :
			read@star3.ph.utexas.edu

I want every GUS user on this mailing list (and even people you know that aren't) to
mail to this address. Eeven if this is the first time that you have participated in
this type of survey.....even if you're a shy, introverted, psychopathic maniac....
put down that axe and reply to this message.

Do it for our dignity ..... do it for our pride ..... or just do it because you're
bored s**tless sitting in front of your computer terminal reading this digest.


					David Khoury.

P.S John Smith... if you're reading this, can you please ask Leah Campbell why it is 
	  taking so long to repair my GUS. Me and some guys here want to make a game for
	  the IBM, and I need my GUS to compose some mods for it!!

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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 9:34:17 EET DST
From: s106275@ee.tut.fi (Saari Anssi)
Subject: In what sense is more than 4 digital channels in Doom a red herring?

>> Subject: Doom Stuff
>> 
>> Exactly HOW and WHICH file do you edit to get more than 4 channels in DOOM?
>
>Don't bother.  The "32 channels in DOOM/Raptor" business is a red herring.

So? It is very easy to hear the difference, a good place is E2L2, where there
are three crushing walls going up and down. If you switch to the chainsaw
there every time an enemy makes a sound the chainsaw cuts out. If you increase
the number of digital channels  it doesn't happen.

Granted, it's a bit difficult to get 32 channels, as there's music to play as
well.

Anssi

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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 10:04:17 GMT
From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Media player again

Sure enough, loads of messages saying you CAN play CD-audio with
media player, including one from me.

But when I got home, I found I couldn't, despite having done before.
After much checking of drivers in Control Panel, I tracked the
problem down to mplayer.ini (in \windows) having got corrupted.
It has a line for each available device, and the line for CD seemed
to have stuff missing. I just deleted mplayer.ini completely, and
then everything worked fine again (and it created a new mplayer.ini).

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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 10:12:23 -0500
From: Don Eller <don.eller@inst.medtronic.com>
Subject: more on Media Player responses

Is this a joke? Then I don't get it.  I've heard of the CD audio (analog output)
referred to as redbook audio out, but orange-book???
"The Media Player can play CD orange-book stuff if the CD driver 
is installed.  Poke around in the Driver applet in the control panel.

Burns"

By the way, does anyone remember why CD audio is referred to as "Redbook"?  Was
the standard issued in a pamplet with a red cover?  I assume this is an audio
industry standard and was invented well before the computer industry started
CDROM.

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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 11:31:12 CST
From: u8013042@cc.nctu.edu.tw
Subject: MPEG compression ...

 Does any one 'really' know about some compression features of GUS,
  i.e. MPEG compression and decompression, A-law , Mu-law ?
 Would you please state it some more detail ?  Thanx a lot !
 I have ever seen A&Mu law in the digital telephone document that says
  A-law is the standard for Europe and Mu-law is for N.America and
  no more detail is contained.
 
 Best wishes,
 Jindi Ni    & his address is :  u8013042@cc.nctu.edu.tw

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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 09:25:30 -0500
From: Don Eller <don.eller@inst.medtronic.com>
Subject: mplayer cannot play CD's?????

I read the following in my Monday digest and could believe my eyes.
"...Surprise!  Media Player is not a CD ROM player, so it will never play
music CDs, with any sound card.  You want to get a separate program for
that...."
Huh, how did you ever come to this conclusion.  I agree that you can get much
nicer CD players for windows, but come on mplayer (both version 1 and 2) play
CD's just fine.  It utilizes MSCDEX and of course the driver MCI CD Audio must
be installed (it comes with all version of windows).  Whoever wrote this must
not have much experience with multi-media under Windows.  Mplayer stands for
multi-media player, not midi-player!  Please try to get your facts straight
before posting here and misleading people.

PS - You should also be aware that microsoft released a very nice CD specific
player in Windows for Workgroups.  The player works just fine under Windows
3.1 and allows you to enter CD library information like CD title, and track
titles.  This is put into an ini file that is automatically referenced when
the CD is loaded the next time.  I'd be happy to post it (MusicBox) to epas
if there is enough interest.  There are shareware programs out there as well
and I think microsoft has it available at ftp.microsoft.com

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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 16:24:00 -0600
From: ddrolet@traider.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dean Drolet)
Subject: Netware 3.12 VLMS and GUS oops :)

After taking that suggestion from Mike posted in the previous digest, I
wanted to check out his suggestion, and he was right.  Doing the
Ultrinit.exe thing AFTER the network loads worked just great with all
the original settings.  I guess that it is time to throw out
ultrinit.sys.  But I still think that I will keep the card on a 16bit
DMA channel anyways for faster patch caching.  Thanks for the suggestion
Mike.

Dean
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A Proud part of Net Logic Incorporated!
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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 94 16:33:50 +0200
From: dv3perli@ida.his.se (Per Lindqvist)
Subject: No sound in Beneath a steel sky???

How do I get sound through my GUS with the game Beneath a steel sky???
With SBOS it won't start, and the Roland emulation with megaem doesn't
work either.

Any suggestions?

______________________________
	   Per Lindqvist         
	  Computer Science        
	University of Skovde      
 E-Mail : dv3perli@ida.his.se 

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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 14:48:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Desolation <decko@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Qemm 7.03 Problems

I just got my new 486/33 motherboard and CPU and I can't seem to get 
MEGAEM to load anymore under Qemm 7.03.  It keeps telling me there is a 
memory error.  If I use emm386.exe, it loads fine, but Qemm isn't work 
(and it worked on my old machine just fine).  Any suggestions?

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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 08:27:04 +0200
From: Peter.Vestman@um.erisoft.se (Peter Vestman)
Subject: Reading CD audio?

Is there a way to read the data of an audio CD in a CD-ROM player?
If this was possible it would be a great way to get hi-quality samples,
without the loss of D/A - A/D conversion.
If it is not possible can someone explain why.

Thanks for any info!

/Peter

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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 16:48:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Vincent Poy <hippo@mercury.sfsu.edu>
Subject: Re: SONY SRS-D4K vs AR Powered Partners 570 Speakers

On Mon, 18 Apr -1, Janne Korkkula <jk@snafu.muncca.fi> wrote:

> 
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 01:45:09 -40962758 (EET DST)
> From: Janne Korkkula <jk@snafu.muncca.fi>
> Subject: Re: SONY SRS-D4K vs AR Powered Partners 570 Speakers
> 
> Vincent Poy <hippo@mercury.sfsu.edu> wrote:
> 
> > [...] have been thinking about going with either the SONY SRS-D4K 3 Piece or 
> > the AR (Acoustic Research) Powered Partners 570 Speakers [...]
> 
>   If you really need small but good active speakers, go
>   for the smaller Genelecs. (Not-only-)IMHO those cheap plastic
>   imitations of speakers you listed aren't a reasonable choice
>   for any use.
>   A low-end integrated amp and even cheap passive speakers
>   provide you with sound quality far beyond the capabilities of
>   those plastic toys. If you already have a HiFi-setup, why not
>   connect the GUS to it?
>   Another reasonable choice would be to get decent headphones.
> 
>   My two cents, once for all.
> 
> -- 
> Janne Korkkula           #  Krogiuksentie 8B     #  E-mail: jk@muncca.fi 
> Tel. +358-0-458-2260     #  00340 Helsinki       #  IRC Nick: JK
> Fax. +358-0-458-2559     #  F I N L A N D        #  Finger/mail 4 PGP2.2 key
> 
> 

The smaller Genelecs are probably pretty cheap speakers since the ones I 
mentioned are very highly rated in Magazines especially the AR's.... Many 
people would agree that the AR's are good... And those aren't cheap 
plastic imitations either..... atleast they aren't cheap in price... $300 
in US$ for a pair.... And another thing is that even if I had a Hi-Fi 
which I do in the living room and my computer is in the bedroom, it won't 
work and I'm not going to get a Hi-Fi setup just for the computer alone 
and besides, did I mention I am in college right now and I have enough 
luggage to carry already so a hi-fi would cause even more trouble... I 
was just asking for the opinion of those speakers and only those that I 
mentioned since it would be very obvious to hook it up to a Hi-Fi.... 
Anyone would do that if they had one next to their machine but I don't... 
Just my five cents worth...

							  Cheers,
					   Vince
E-mail:hippo@mercury.sfsu.edu, \|/ System Adm - CircleStar Technologies, Inc.
  root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA
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Date: 19 Apr 94 16:11:26 EDT
From: AM3249@ACSPR1.acs.brockport.edu
Subject: Two Sound Cards

Can someone tell me how I can use two sound card together.  I have a 
GUS and a PAS.  I keep getting IRQ errors when i setup the GUS for Sound 
Blaster emulation.  My IRQ's on each card are totally different.  When 
I took out my PAS the GUS worked fine.  Please help!!!

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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 08:32:09 +0100
From: nguyen@eerie.fr (NGUYEN Francois                   )
Subject: Where can I get a 16 bit rec dboard?

Could anyone tell me a mail order company in the usa or canada
that sells 16 bits recording daughter boards for not too much
(include phone and fax number please)

Thanx
(any feedback also appreciated)

							 \|/
							(o o)
		   _____________oOO__(_)__OOo_______________
				Francois Nguyen: nguyen@eerie.fr

 

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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 20:01:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." <pchienjr@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Will SB AWE32 make GUS obsolete?

The specs for AWE32, i.e., 32 megabytes of RAM upgradable, seems to make 
the GUS pale.  And that blind test by CGW doesn't rate the GUS as number 
1.  But the great feature about the GUS, is that its features are 
upgradeable!  Okay, supposedly the MIDI isn't as good as a Roland Sound 
Canvas.  But remember, the GUS has loadable RAM patches, so really, the 
less realistic sounding patches can be resampled and replace the old 
patches.  The GUS is only as good as its patches, which can certainly be 
improved.  Okay, so the GUS has a max of 1 MB RAM on its board, but hey, 
remember daughterboards can be attached to the GUS.  So, maybe GRAVIS can 
make a 16-bit daughterboard that also has RAM sockets, then, any amount 
of RAM is possible.  Rest assured, the GUS will have a long life.  
And wait till Focal Point 3D comes out for games (such as by Westwood), 
then we'll see who's king of virtual sound Mr. SB with QSound, which 
sounds like crappy FM synthesis installed on the arcades for Super 
Streetfighter II!

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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 18:47:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: ST4FX@Jetson.UH.EDU
Subject: Windows CD Audio

To whoever asked about getting Windows Media PLayer to play Audio CDs, you have to go to the Windows control panel, then go into the drivers applet, select new
and when you get a list of all availible generic drivers, you should see a 
"CD Audio" driver. Select that, insert the needed Windows installation disks, 
and then go to media player and select CD Audio from the Devices menu. Then just
pushing the play button should start playing.

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