GUS Daily Digest            Sat, 29 Oct 94  9:37 PST     Volume 15: Issue  23 

Today's Topics:
						 Aces Of The Pacific
				  Armoured Fist and NO GUS sound!!!!
							Bank switching
						 Dream Web with GUS?
						  GUS / CDROM DRIves
				  GUS Daily Digest V15 #22 (3 msgs)
							Gus Experience
				   GUSMAX SBOS setup help needed...
					Install disks: v3.53 vs. 3.56
							  mmpm fixes
							Mortal Kombat
						 Myst and Win drivers
							  New megaem
						   Pro Patches 3.0
					   ProPats - what are they
					   propats3 will be on epas
						   Propats Location
					  Recording session... (fwd)
						  The *NEW* GUS FAQ

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 22:03:22 -0500 (CDT)
From: "R. Rice" <dnrrice@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Subject: Aces Of The Pacific

Anyone know how to get 'real' machine gun sounds out of this series?  All I
get are kind of little 'blip' noises . . . also . . . engine noises are 
kind of high-pitched as opposed to Soundblaster engine noise.  I've tried 
all variations of SBOS/Emuset etc.  Anyone have any luck?

Thanks

Dave Rice

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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 09:43:02 PDT
From: "Brian Hayes, Sierra Systems" <BAHAYES@BCSC02.GOV.BC.CA>
Subject: Armoured Fist and NO GUS sound!!!!

Arrrrrrrg. Armoured Fist has NO gus support. I tried everything last night to
get the darn thing running with a gus, but no luck. Seems the boys at Nova
Logic think a SB is the only board in the world. Here's the results I had:
Mega EM : Midi music (good at that) but no sounds.
SBOS 1.2 : using -o3, get SB music (sounds like fm), but no digital sounds.
SBOS 3.81: using -o3, get SB music no no digital.

All other switch combos for rither sbos give a 1/2 screen of error info as
soon as the game tries to init the sound card.

Drivers for the game--what drivers there are consists of a file called
sounddrv.dvr, and a setsound utility.

It's a real shame, because the game looks fantastic! Some of the effects with
smoke, terrain, enemy AI are among the best I've ever seen.
Anyone have a solution to this very dissapointing no-sound problem?

thanks,
Brian

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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 17:14:31 GMT
From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Bank switching

> Do the GUS drivers for Windows support Bank switching.

The Windows Multimedia API call 'MidiOutCachePatches' takes an
integer argument indicating which Bank the patches should
be taken from. This argument IS used by the GUS Windows drivers.

At least in the GUS implementation, each call to this function
loses previously loaded patches, so you can only have patches
from one bank at a time.

There is no implementation of switching banks in the middle of
playing back a MIDI file. At best, it would have to reload all
the patches from the new bank (which would cause a gap in the
music), and which is probably not what you wanted anyway.

Clarke Brunt

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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 12:29:46 -0600 (CST)
From: Carlos Alejandro Bustos <cab144@skdad.usask.ca>
Subject: Dream Web with GUS?

Has anyone had any success with dream web and the GUS?  It works with 
Megaem but the sound quality is very poor.  

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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 17:18:16 GMT
From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: GUS / CDROM DRIves

> will I need to worry about any incompatibilities (between a
> CD-ROM driver card and the GUS)

I see no advantage over attaching a CD-ROM directly to the GUS
other than saving a slot. In either case, the audio signal will
have to be taken from the audio-out pins on the CD drive to the
CD-Audio-in pins on the GUS (assuming you want it to play
through the GUS). This is just am audio signal - there is no
digital data transfer between CD-ROM and GUS.

Clarke Brunt

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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 13:40 -0400
From: DANTONIO@PROCESS.COM (Momentary Language, Sexual Situations)
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #22

>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 13:28:20 MDT
>From: dchow@stu.athabascau.ca (Donald Chow)
>Subject: Re: GUS and IBM's Warp (OS/2 3.0)

>  I would really doubt the drivers would be in the next release of OS/Warp
>considering that Gravis hasn't finished the drivers yet... :)

This is the point. Gravis has had PLENTY of time to finish any drivers they
were going to write or they could have licensed Robert Manley's. But they
didn't. So we lose.

>  BTW, the release of OS/Warp has been delayed because they still haven't
>been able to find the bug that causes it to crash on some systems for
>no apparent reason when installing...

Ah, the mis-information abounds! They found a bug wherein the installer would
get upset if you had CONFIG.BAK in your root directory. But it would still
install properly (any crash was at the very end of the install) and work fine
when rebooted.

DDA

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Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 00:21:31 -0400
From: AdvGravis@aol.com
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #22

For those with access to AOL, the PRO PATCHES can be found on AOL in our
software library. Go keyword: GRAVIS on AOL and then just go into the
software libraries.  They are found in the library called UltraSound MIDI
Files and Patches.

As for UAKM demo, its not gonna work very well. My suggestion is to wait for
the actual game and play that instead. It looks to be a killer game.

We took a look at Wing Commander III, and all I can say is WOW! I ran the
demo on a machine with 16 megs of RAM and it worked awesome! (wonder how it
would work on my own 4 meg machine..sigh). This game is a sight to behold.
What a super job Origin has done.

The custom patches on the UltraSound Experience CD were a brite piano (500k).
It can be found on our bbs at (604) 431-5927 and other FTP sites as well.

By the way, this is Jayeson's first anniversary. Lets all wish him best of
luck with his new killer MegaEM.

Have a good weekend folks.

Bryan

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Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 20:54:19 +0800 (GMT+0800)
From: Pisces Cowboy <tankongh@iscs.nus.sg>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #22

> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 09:33:52 GMT
> From: csfb1!csfp.co.uk!pcunnell@uunet.uu.net (Paul Cunnell)
> Subject: Re: ProPats - what are they
> 
> Just in case anyone is interested:
> 
> To anyone looking for Propats version 3 - I found them on:
> archive.orst.edu, in directory pub/packages/gravis/submit.
> They are called pp3-01.zip through pp3-19.zip
> (yup, 19 zip files). I don't know whether anybody is
> likely to clean up the submit area, in which case they
> would probably move to:
> pub/packages/gravis/sound/patches/files
>
	Hmm.. seems like file 10,17 & 19 are bad.
	11 & 18 are missing.

David

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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 10:33:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dylan Nicolle <dnicolle@tcsgi.mhs.mendocino.k12.ca.us>
Subject: Gus Experience

Would some kid soul PLEASE upload the Gus Experince program to some site?!??!
I dont understand why it has not yet been done.

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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 19:36:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: Chi K Poon <chipoon@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Subject: GUSMAX SBOS setup help needed...

Hi everyone,
	I haven't been on the mailing list for a while now so my apologies if
this question has been asked before. My problem is when I test the SBOS mode
in the diagnostic menu from the setup program I get the message:

	"SBOS vector not functional" and the test fails. What does this mean?

Also when I run sbos I get the message:

	"NMI Procedure on this PC is disabled."

Might that have something to so with it? I tried enabling the parity checking 
on my PC, but that did not help. SBOS works with the "-o3" option only, but the
performance from that is usally less than satisfactory. I have a GUSMAX with
512k installed in a LASER 9000 generic 486/66 motherboard using the UNICHIP
intergrated chipset. Everything else works great. I just want to know what
the problem is, hoping to avoid buying a new motherboard. Thanks in advance,

Steve

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Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 01:58:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." <pchienjr@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Install disks: v3.53 vs. 3.56

Ahh, nostalgia, remember the craze to get UltraSound install disks v3.53 
over the summer, and now I hear about v3.56.  Anyone who had v3.53 and 
got v3.56: what are the version differences that deem it worthy for me to 
ftp them via my speedy 2400 bps modem?

Peter

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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 20:00:40 -0600 (MDT)
From: Ignatius Tam <tam@amisk.cs.ualberta.ca>
Subject: mmpm fixes

Hi guys,

someone asked how to get the fix for mmpm,
there are two ways:

1. wait for a few days when OS/2 Warp is released
2. goto ftp.cdrom.com/pub/os2/ibm/os2fixes
   and get mmpmcs.* and in the same directory
   get loaddsf.exe.  Use loaddsf to unpack the mmpmcs.dsk
   onto a floppy(!), run the minstall on that disk and
   bingo!

hope this helps

-iGnatius

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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 23:51:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sky Woo <swoo@rahul.net>
Subject: Mortal Kombat

> Subject: Re: Mortal Kombat with a gus???
> 
> > I dont get digitized sound from it, neither with SBOS nor with MegaEM.
> > With MegaEM i get nice music, but sb sound? no way.
> > SBOS doesnt work at all (although G-list says it would work with sbos)
>  
> For some reason Mortal Kombat/SBOS won't work with all of the IRQ 
> settings. I figured out that it works well with:
>  
> ULTRASND=220,5,5,5,7
>  
> and SBOS.
>  
> (won't work with MEGAEM because of protected mode.. they say)
>  
	There is more than one version of Mortal Kombat out there.  I 
have tried two completely different versions.  One version lets you setup 
the sound from an external .EXE file.  The other version has you hit F10 
at the beginning of the game to select your sound setup and other stuff.  
The Mortal Kombat listed in the G-List is for the MK that has an external 
 EXE file for setup.  (I know it is this version because I talked to 
J-Mark about it on irc).  That version of Mortal Kombat will work with 
SBOS.  I dunno if it uses the DOS extender or not.  The version of MK 
which has you press F10 will not work with any DAC sound effects under 
any emulation.  It has nothing to do with lower than IRQ 9 cause I 
already tried that.  And I believe SBOS doesn't work with anything higher 
than 9 anyhow.  This version of MK uses the DOS extender and when I try to 
setup the card with sound effects, it fucks my system majorly.  My CMOS 
gets wiped and my memory check at bootup is missing 512k.  Same shit 
happened with Rebel Assault.  Anyways, MegaEm for some reason, I dunno 
why, works and does give music but of course no sound effects.  But the 
interesting thing about this game is that its Adlib tune I thought was 
better than the Roland tune.  If you have to hear this game with sound 
effects, you should get yourself a Sound Blaster.  I personally don't 
care and I blow this game off like I did with Ultima 8.

BTW, there is a patch for Mortal Kombat out there.  I think its on 
ftp.uwp.edu but I dunno the directory.  It fixed for me, Scorpion's 
fatality which crashed the system when I did it.  It also has a new SB 
audio driver, but alas, SBOS still didn't work.

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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 16:30:43 -0700
From: Derek Suzuki <drkszk@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Myst and Win drivers

	Okay, setting the DMA playback buffers down below 1024 bytes seems
to have fixed the .AVI playback skipping in most games.  However, I just
received the 1.0.1 version of Myst (which works with my Mitsumi
doublespeed), and I am still having problems with it.
	Quicktime movies run perfectly well for about twenty seconds, then
every ten seconds or so there is a skip in both the video and audio.  Myst
is the only disc I have that uses Quicktime, so I don't know whether this is
the case with other programs.
	Since the Mitsumi problems were specifically fixed with this
version, I am assuming that the GUS is the problem.  Any ideas what's wrong?

Derek
drkszk@ocf.berkeley.edu

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Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 13:10:09 +0200 (EET)
From: samulin@freeport.uwasa.fi (Samuli Niiranen)
Subject: New megaem

Will the new megaem work without a memory manager?
I know that it'll work with  protected mode apps running under a dos extender...
-- 
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E-mail: samulin@freeport.uwasa.fi ! a little time to change that and there
		samulin@freenet.hut.fi    !               -Richard Feynman

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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 18:11:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Vince - IE - Experimental Mail Server Admin Acct <mailserv@ucs.orst.edu>
Subject: Pro Patches 3.0

	In the last 2 daily digests, I and someone else seen MANY people
asking for Pro Patches 3.0... They are available on AOL and are on EPAS.
Hope this helps to let everyone know...


							  Cheers,
					   Vince
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Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 08:52:38 +1000 (EST)
From: "Jason L. Williams" <n1459562@student.fit.qut.edu.au>
Subject: Re: ProPats - what are they

> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 09:33:52 GMT
> From: csfb1!csfp.co.uk!pcunnell@uunet.uu.net (Paul Cunnell)

> Just in case anyone is interested:

> To anyone looking for Propats version 3 - I found them on:
> archive.orst.edu, in directory pub/packages/gravis/submit.
> They are called pp3-01.zip through pp3-19.zip
> (yup, 19 zip files). I don't know whether anybody is
> likely to clean up the submit area, in which case they
> would probably move to:
> pub/packages/gravis/sound/patches/files

Well I'll be damned...  I looked there...

The file pp3-19.zip is 0 bytes, so it's corrupted; the file pp3-17.zip is 
68k -- there has to be something missing in that; and files 11 and 18 are 
missing...  

Does someone feel like being very nice and uploading the missing & 
corrupted files???

Thanks,

+---------Jason.L.Williams----------+
|.B.Eng(Elec)/B.InfoTech.1st.Yr.'94.|
|...n1459562@water.fit.qut.edu.au...|
|...chrys@ozspace.brisnet.org.au....|
+-----------------------------------+

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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 21:01:12 -0500 (CDT)
From: Antonio Guia <guia@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: propats3 will be on epas

Ok, i'll start the slow task of uploading all 19Megs!!! of the propats3
files this weekend.   Look for them on epas, they should all be there
before Tuesday of this week (you didn't actually think i'd transfer 19Megs
in one sitting!) in the directory /pub/pc/ultrasound/submit/propats3
assuming that i'm allowed to create a subdirectory in there.
-tg

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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 14:04:30 -0700
From: Fred Handloser <fredh@hpcvusd.cv.hp.com>
Subject: Propats Location

Paul,

When did you look on archive.orst.edu?  I just looked again today
10/28/94 (I've looked the last few days) and they don't appear to
be anywhere there.   Does anybody know who actually owns the directories
and filespace on the archive.orst.edu machine?   Who owns
propats?   

Thanks for any help,

Fred Handloser
---------------
>                           Propats Location
>
>Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 09:11:14 GMT
>From: csfb1!csfp.co.uk!pcunnell@uunet.uu.net (Paul Cunnell)
>Subject: Re: Propats Location
>
>To anyone looking for Propats version 3 - I found them on:
archive.orst.edu, in directory pub/packages/gravis/submit.
>They are called pp3-01.zip through pp3-19.zip
>(yup, 19 zip files). I don't know whether anybody is
>likely to clean up the submit area, in which case they
>would probably move to:
>pub/packages/gravis/sound/patches/files
>
=======================================================

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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 12:31:45 GMT
From: Matt@machine.demon.co.uk (Matt Robinson)
Subject: Recording session... (fwd)

I while ago, I bought and Ultrasound for 129 quid and it had v2.06a of the 
base software. This came with Midisoft Recording session. I then upgraded
the software to v3.53 and then 3.56 and copied 3.56 over the original disks
(BIG MISTAKE). I found out after that the extra programs (Power chords, session)
and the rest had gone, KABOUM, dissappeared. I saw GRAVIS ULTRASOUND BONUS 
software on the UK BBS and then it closed down, (besides, it was nearly 3Meg and
I wasn't sure that I had the time or money). 
I just found some musical score from when I used to play the guitar and violin
(not at once :) and I wanted to put it into midi form. Session was free and it 
worked but now I have no program that does the same. Please tell me if Session
is still available or if there are other FREE (ie PD not SHAREWARE) midi music
entry systems out there.

Thanks in advance....
-- 
/--------------------------\
|      Matt Robinson       | "I don't know what weapons World War III will be
|    can be contacted at   |  fought with, but I know that World War IV will
| Matt@machine.demon.co.uk |  be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert
\--------------------------/                                        Einstein

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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 21:50:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Christopher M. DiPierro" <cdipierr@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: The *NEW* GUS FAQ

Ok, I have started work on updating the FAQ.  Below is the introduction 
information.  Please read it and then if interested, get the GUS FAQ from 
me.  I *TRIED* to send it to a lot of the usual FAQ FTP places, but they 
all either denied me permission, or in the case of epas, it is out of 
space in the submit section.  So I regret to say if you want it, you 
*MUST* email me.  Remember, the FAQ is only as good as everyone makes it.

Below is the INTRODUCTION ONLY to the FAQ, so PLEASE DO NOT FLAME ME FOR 
POSTING THIS...

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		GRAVIS ULTRASOUND ("GUS") FAQ VERSION 2.00 [94/10/28]        
																		   
 ---------------------------------------------------------------------     
																		   
QUICK NOTE: This FAQ is now maintained by a new person.  This is because   
			the person who used to maintain it cannot be reached and       
			the FAQ has not been updated in a long time.  Since the GUS    
			digest is back (it was not available for a while, for anyone   
			reading this that did not previously know), it is time to      
			bring this FAQ back as well.  This is also the reason that the 
			FAQ version skipped from 1.58 to 2.00.  Subsequent FAQ's will  
			be numbered from here.                                         
																		   
																		   
ANOTHER                                                                    
QUICK NOTE: It has been pointed out that this FAQ tends to concentrate     
			mainly on the technical/hardware aspect of the GUS.  At least  
			one person to my knowledge is going to help add some of the    
			software aspects to it as well.  In addition, it is possible   
			that separate files concerning software that's available and 
			helpful for the GUS will be published in the near future.    
																		 
ONE LAST                                                                 
QUICK NOTE: Most of the information in this FAQ is still left over from  
			the last update (although I have made a few minor changes).  
			I'm leaving it to the GUS users to email me and helping me   
			update the information.  I am by no means an expert on the   
			GUS and therefore the more help I get, the better the FAQ    
			will be.                                                     
																		 
																		 
		Certain questions concerning the Gravis UltraSound ("GUS")       
sound card are asked over and over on the UltraSound Daily Digest (a     
mailing list for GUS users) and on comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.*  In an    
attempt to alleviate some redundancy from the lives of USENET/Internet   
folk, this FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions, with answers) list has       
been created.  It is maintained by Chris DiPierro (cdipierr@wam.umd.edu) 
If you have any questions, comments, complaints, please feel free to send  
them to him.  Please do not send your question more than once, as Chris    
does have other things to do aside from answering FAQ mail.  If you do     
not get an answer after a month or so, then there may be a mail problem.   
																		   
NOTE: All submissions by mail to the GUS FAQ must have a subject line that 
	  looks something like one of the following:                           
																		   
	  Subject: GUS FAQ Q*: rest of subject                                 
	  Subject: GUS FAQ: rest of subject                                    
																		   
	  If the submission refers to a specific question in the FAQ, use the  
	  first subject line and replace "*" with the question number.         
																		   
	  Although I will try my best to respond to messages without the proper
	  subject line, there is always the possiblity that I will accidentally
	  discard it while going through my mail (I'm on a few listservs).  So,
	  it is a better idea to use the correct subject line.                 
																			
		If you would like to join the mailing list and be privy to the      
latest and greatest information, banter, mail to                            
<gus-general-request@mail.orst.edu>.  The automated server will tell you    
how to sign up for the mailing list, tell you where the FTP sites           
associated with the Digest are (they recieve software updates directly      
from Gravis often), and other such information.                             
																			
		BTW: All FAQs, including this one, are available on the             
archive site rtfm.mit.edu in the directory pub/usenet/news.answers.         
The name under which a FAQ is archived appears in the "Archive-Name:"       
line at the top of the article.  This FAQ is archived as                    
PCsoundcards/gravis-ultrasound/faq.                                         
																			
		Special thanks are due to many people who helped in the past with   
this FAQ.  If they would like to help once again, just send me some mail    
as I don't know who all helped in the first place.                          
																			


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Chris DiPierro: cdipierr@wam.umd.edu
University of Maryland at College Park
To quote IBM: "Think"

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Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 02:12:41 -0700
From: Derek Suzuki <drkszk@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>

>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 13:28:20 MDT
>From: dchow@stu.athabascau.ca (Donald Chow)
>Subject: Re: GUS and IBM's Warp (OS/2 3.0)
>  I would really doubt the drivers would be in the next release of OS/Warp
>considering that Gravis hasn't finished the drivers yet... :)
>
>  BTW, the release of OS/Warp has been delayed because they still haven't
>been able to find the bug that causes it to crash on some systems for
>no apparent reason when installing...
>
>Donald Chow                       | X-Phile & GATB
>dchow@a.stu.athabascau.ca         | Call (202) 555-6431 for a 'Spooky' time
	My, how tales grow with the telling...
	The bug was that the install screwed up if you had a CONFIG.BAK file
in the root directory of the drive you were installing to.  They probably
missed it in the betas because everyone was using freshly-formatted
partitions.
	The easy workaround, of course, is to make sure that you don't have
a CONFIG.BAK.  Then again, IBM (and a few journalists) discovered the bug
before volume shipments commenced, so only a few days were lost as a
result.  I should have a copy myself by the end of the week.
	And to make this post relevant to the GUS: I was told that the HMI
drivers do not support patch caching.  Is this indeed the case?  If so,
would we be able to preload only the necessary patches before running the
game?

Derek
drkszk@ocf.berkeley.edu
	

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