Ultrasound Daily Digest     Thu, 2 Sep 93   :45 MDT      Volume 6: Issue   1  

Today's Topics:
						   cake and chords
				   Cakewalk 2.0 does patch caching
					 Can PAS-16 and GUS coexist?
				   Deleting some lists: PUGD, GMOS
			 Discussion: Should GUS-OS2 also be deleted?
				   DMP262 and the Black Parity demo
						   GUS 206L problem
							MusicTime/Trax
						  Native GUS Support
			  New files validated message forwarded....
						 NEW ULTRAMID - V1.2
						 SBOS settings in FAQ
						 Ultime Underworld II
				  ULTRASOUND DAILY DIGEST V (2 msgs)
				   Wing Commander Academy (2 msgs)
				   Wing Commander Academy with AIL.

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 01:21:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion)
Subject: cake and chords
Message-ID: <9309020521.AA00538@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>

Yay! I get to have my cake and eat it too! Powerchords and Cakewalk Pro 2.0
hapilly coexists, as long as the input port is not the same. They will
however share the Ultrasound Midi Synth no problemo.

Geez, now i wont get any sleep at all!

Ciao,
-- 
Francois Dion
	'  _   _   _ 
 CISM (_) (_)  _) FM       Montreal , Canada       Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA
	  (_)  / . _)             10000 Watts          Telephone no: (514) 343-7511
_______________________________________________________________________________
Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-...

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Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 01:16:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion)
Subject: Cakewalk 2.0 does patch caching
Message-ID: <9309020516.AA00470@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>

Yes my friends, Cakewalk 2.0 support patch caching in a nice way, with even
an update patch caching option when you change patches after you load the
file. So, here's a little review:

I must say i have had a bias for cakewalk for quite some time, and Cakewalk
2.0 proves without any doubt that I was right to choose this. I have used
Cubase which seemed ok, but crashed so often i couldn't stand it. It also
didn't do patch caching and was a pain in the ass generally speaking. I also
used winjammer and midisoft recording session but these are more toys than
real tools (however they go for quite a lot less $$). Cakewalk Pro win 1 was
full of promises, but the timing was off for .wav and i got a bit of hang
notes. However, Windows Cakewalk Pro 2.0 adress all the problems i had found
in version 1. Including that patch caching was not supported. To put it in
one word: "Magnifique!". The package is well done, does patch caching, the
interface is less cluttered, it feels very robust and has incredible timing.
Even the Afterdark problem i had while playing (hang notes etc...) doesn't
happen anymore! What else... oh yeah, you can print staffs too! (version 1
didn't allow for this).

I have only played with it for 2 or 3 hours up to now, so i cant really give
you all the plus or minus points yet, but will do in a short period. I got
only 1 strange behavior, but it is a normal one that happens with every patch
caching apps: it reports that there is not enough memory on the GUS to play
the file, but it is simply because a program change happens on channel 10. To
correct, simply change the patch name to -none-. In any case it will play
correctly. Last thing: i was extremely impressed by the speed even if i run a
386-33. Wow! this program is fast and accurate!

Well, that's it for now... more details later. I'll try running Powerchords
and Cakewalk simultaneously to see if it can be done. If not, i'll hope
that Powerchords Pro will do it, cause the combination of these two programs
make the best midi package for IBM. I dont miss OS/2 as much i must say...

Ciao,
-- 
Francois Dion
	'  _   _   _ 
 CISM (_) (_)  _) FM       Montreal , Canada       Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA
	  (_)  / . _)             10000 Watts          Telephone no: (514) 343-7511
_______________________________________________________________________________
Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-...

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 93 18:08:24 PDT
From: Christopher Jon Wilkins <chrisw@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Can PAS-16 and GUS coexist?
Message-ID: <199309020108.SAA11019@power.Stanford.EDU>

I was just wondering if anyone had a PAS-16 coexisting with a GUS in their
systems?

I know this is complete and utter heresy, but I just noticed on the net 
that someone said they could buy a thing called a PAS-16 Basic for $125
new (apparently it doesn't have the SCSI port and doesn't have any
built in amplification - both of which suit me perfectly). 

Some dangerous thoughts: a PAS-16 would provide 16-bit recording capabilities,
an FM section for games or extra voices in music, and, best of all, it's
available RIGHT NOW! 

I have been religously waiting for the GUS daughtercard but I'm beginning to
wonder. It would help if Gravis could tell us when the daughtercard is being
released, how much it's going to cost and what's so good about it.

Chris.

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 12:05:19 -0600 (CDT)
From: ddebry@grue.dsd.ES.COM (Dave DeBry)
Subject: Deleting some lists: PUGD, GMOS
Message-ID: <9309011805.AA02839@grue.dsd.ES.COM>

	Unless I receive a huge amount of complaints, the GMOS
("General MIDI OS for GUS") and PUGD ("PC UNIX GUS Driver") lists will
be deleted in the next couple of days.  The only traffic that has been
on either of these lists for the past month is subscribe/unsubscribe
requests. 

	If you'd like to continue the discussions of these topics,
please move them to the GUS Digest or the GUS-SDK Digest.  (I'd
suggest the GUS-SDK Digest, since both of these projects are still in
the creation phase.)

-- 
Dave  ddebry@ debry@   \ "How can I possibly understand you?  I have a
DeBry dsd.    peruvian. | better chance of knowing which phone company
	  es.     cs.utah.  | has lower rates."
	  com     edu      /

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 12:15:29 -0600 (CDT)
From: ddebry@grue.dsd.ES.COM (Dave DeBry)
Subject: Discussion: Should GUS-OS2 also be deleted?
Message-ID: <9309011815.AA02914@grue.dsd.ES.COM>

	As you may already know, the GMOS and PUGD lists are going to
be shut down in the next couple of days, due to lack of use.

	Should I shut down the GUS-OS2 list as well?

	The only discussions going over that list of late have been:
1] "Are the OS/2 drivers out yet?"
2] "OS/2 vs. DOS vs. Windows NT vs. (ad nauseum)"
3] "Unsubscribe me"

	Topic #1 can be well covered on the GUS Digest, topic #2 has
no place on any of the GUS lists (that's an order from the moderator,
folks... namely *me*), and topic #3 is because people haven't been
paying attention on where to send requests.

	I'd just assume get rid of it.  Any complaints from the masses?

-- 
Dave  ddebry@ debry@   \ 
DeBry dsd.    peruvian. | "Try a banana in your shoe and you'll know
	  es.     cs.utah.  |  what a day is."
	  com     edu      /  

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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 93 18:08:40 -0400
From: "Momentary language, sexual situations" <dantonio@magick.tay2.dec.com>
Subject: DMP262 and the Black Parity demo
Message-ID: <9309012208.AA29207@magick.tay2.dec.com>

Has anyone else tried DMP262? It consistently (both times I tried) gave me
the infamous Off-Board Parity Error. Needless to say, I was quite
worried...

Speaking of Parity, has anyone gotten the Black Parity demo to use the GUS?
I saw the instruction sheet and followed it (mostly) but no sound. Since
it's based on the JMPROTR code from UltraForce, which also doesn't work
with my GUS, I wasn't surprised. Is this another, "Gee, everyone's GUS is
set to the defaults, right?" problem? Has anyone gotten sound from this?

DDA

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 93 01:52:01 PDT
From: zorro%40607.hepnet@Lbl.Gov
Subject: GUS 206L problem
Message-ID: <930901015201.20210e91@Lbl.Gov>

hi

i'm a new user of GUS and i have taken the installation disk of GUS 206 L

but i have a little problem i can't install it,

i have unzip all the disks with the -$ option so i put the label on the

disk infact it put the label 930520 GUS2 on all disks, but when i install it

and i choose the full installation it begin to copy the disk1 then when i

ask for disk2 and i insert it and press return it tell me that it wants disk2

i press return and it answers with the same thing "insert disk 2 and press RET"

now please help me, can i use the install.exe of a previous version

my version is 2.04.

please help me.

email to me at zorro@v8550.ias.fra.cnr.it

i'm not on the list

bye

claudio

NOTE: tell me if the labels are wrong or what i can do

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 07:41:22 -0700
From: ttruong.escp10@xerox.com
Subject: Re: MusicTime/Trax
Message-ID: <" 1-Sep-93  7:41:22 PDT".*.Ton_H._Truong.ESCP10@Xerox.com>

From: deraud@power.amasd.anatcp.rockwell.com (Robert Lee DeRaud)
Message-ID: <9308311250.AA17041@power.amasd.anatcp.rockwell.com>

>Sigh...the MusicTime/Trax package from Passport is not patch-caching
>aware in its current incarnation.  Most unfortunate, since it is
>lightyears beyond the MidiSoft stuff and quite a bit cheaper than
>WinCake (at least it was when I bought it :-) ). I've gotten word from
>Passport about upgrading MusicTime to Encore but no indication yet if
>patch-caching is implemented or not: watch this space!



I just talked to Mike at Passport Designs regarding version 3 of Encore, to be
released by the end of 9/93, and was told that Patch Caching for GUS is not on
their TO-DO list.  Sigh!

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 93 8:57:10 EDT
From: Matthew Spewak <Matthew.Spewak@lambada.oit.unc.edu>
Subject: Native GUS Support
Message-ID: <9309011257.AA02479@lambada.oit.unc.edu>

So far Zone 66 and Star Controll II have been the only games to trully
have GUS support, along with many demos created by various groups. 
Although these all sounded great, it is still primitive GUS support. 
These games and demos all used 4 channel digital sound (basicly played
.MODs) in stereo.  We all know that the ultrasound is capable of at least
16 in stereo!  When a game or a demo finally uses this, then we will have
true, full, stereo Gus support.

It has been done with Ultratracker.  Now they need to put it in a game.
...I'm still waiting.

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 93 00:50:00 -0700
From: Thomas Wong <twong@civil.ubc.ca>
Subject: New files validated message forwarded....
Message-ID: <9309010750.AA08898@itchy>

				 GRAVIS ULTRASOUND INTERNET ARCHIVES NEWS
==========================================================================
Ftp Site: archive.epas.utoronto.ca     Directory: pub/pc/ultrasound
		  wuarchive.wustl.edu                     systems/msdos/ultrasound
		  archive.orst.edu                        pub/packages/gravis

Mailserver for archive access: mail-server@nike.rz.uni-konstanz.de
 -------------------------------------------------------------------------


Hello all. Here we are, the latest batch of Ultrasound Archive file 
validations, for August 31, 1993. Quite a bit of good stuff once again. 
>From more (and better) sound files, to a new graphical GUS 669 player with 
file list selection ....etc. Anyways, on with the show....

The following files have been validated and uploaded to the sites
archive.epas.utoronto.ca and wuarchive.wustl.edu.

Please allow 24 hours for the other ftp/mailserver sites to be updated
by their auto updaters.....

_________________________________________________________________________

Subdirectory: ..../demo

debut_f.zip - Dark Zone's Debut Final Release demo (GUS)
obsess.zip - Black Rain's Obsession demo (GUS)
planb.lzh - Sonic's Plan-B intro demo (GUS)
spiral.zip - Dataction's Spiral intro demo (GUS)
inconexi.arj - Iconexia demo by Iguana, SB only



Subdirectory: ..../game

loreail.zip - GUS AIL patch for Lands of Lore
twindemo.zip - TwinTris demo, Tetris clone, for GUS


Subdirectory: ..../misc

sound15.zip - The Sound Site Newsletter #15, August 1993



Subdirectory: ..../sound/669/files

pyrotech.zip



Subdirectory: ..../sound/669/util

tc69101b.exe - TopEND Config 669 Trekker ver 1.01b for GUS



Subdirectory: ..../sound/midi/files

bachf6.zip, banjos.zip, bor_19a.zip, cathparr.zip, chariot.zip, chase.zip,
chris6.zip, chris7.zip, chris8.zip, conga.zip, dust.zip, gm-album.zip,
gm_midi.zip, pride.zip, rsierra.zip, sc2_191.zip, slither.zip, tcta.zip



Subdirectory: ..../sound/midi/util

tt101.zip - midi transcribe to guitar tablature



Subdirectory: ..../sound/mod/files

a93music.arj, a93music.a01, a93music.a02 - Music from Assembly 93
asm-lein.lzh, bozo-hou.mod



Subdirectory: ..../sound/mod/util

damtr100.zip - Damtracker ver 1.0 mod tracker with SVGA for GUS
dmp261b.zip - Dual Module Player ver 2.61B, 4/6/8 channel mod player
gustr103.arj - GUS Tracker 1.03 mod tracker with VGA for GUS



Subdirectory: ..../sound/patches/files

acguit.zip, basses.zip, church_o.arj, guns.zip



Subdirectory: ..../sound/patches/util

patchis2.zip - Patchis ver 1.01 views GUS patch data



Subdirectory: ..../sound/misc

far07b.arj - Digital Infinity's Farandole Composer ver 0.7beta, SVGA, GUS
forest-g.zip - an Ultra Tracker song file
s3mplay.zip - S3M Player ver 1b for Ultrasound
strshine.zip - a S3M song file
winds.zip - an Ultra Tracker song file
yl_morph.zip - an Ultra Tracker 13 channel song file



Subdirectory:  ..../util/dos

megem15b.zip - Roland MTS & Sound Canvas emulator for GUS ver beta 15
spect.zip - Spect ver 1.0 spectrum analyzer for GUS



Subdirectory:  ..../util/windows

cooled.zip - Cool Edit ver 1.21, Win 3.1 sound editing package
hypo10a.zip - Hyper Point ver 1.0a, Win 3.1 Hypertext/Hypermedia authoring
			  & presentation app
patchldr.zip - Quick MIDI Patch Loader for Win 3.1



Notes to Uploaders:
===================

acme.arj - Has anyone ever gotten this to work? First of all, it's SB so we
		   need to us SBOS to get it to work. But it either hangs ot reboots
		   my computer and I haven't heard of anyone else getting it to work.
		   Only others experiencing the same problem I have. Has anyone else
		   gotten it to work?

b5th-gus.zip - As someone else has uploaded.... this file is still corrupt.
		   Please try again (reuploading that is)....

emf_ecl.zip - I get a "can't execute" error from DOS. Looks like the exe
		   is corrupted. Please fix/reupload.


Other STUFF:
============

Seems like we are starting to collect a number of Ultra Tracker files.
So we may be looking at moving all the Ultra Tracker files out of
.../sound/misc and into its own .../sound/ult/* directory structure.
I'll let you know.... any objections or other comments?

There has been some abuse of the writeability access to the submit
directory of EPAS. Remember everything you do is logged. Please don't
abuse the system or we'll be force to take action.



That's it for now. Happy GUSing....
( A hint of more news to come.....:) )

Thomas.

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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 93 14:57:12 
From: john.smith@gravis.com
Subject: NEW ULTRAMID - V1.2
Message-ID: <9309011457.A6164wk@gravis.com>

We released a new UltraMID AIL/DIGPAK V1.02 today (09/01/93). The
filename is UMID102.ZIP and has been sent to all the Gravis nodes in
the GRV_UPD area. You should also be able to find it on the FTP sites
I would imagine within the hour <grin>. Here is a list of what has
changed since V1.0.

4.1.0 Revision History
	  ================

 V1.02  - (09/01/93) All notes off midi message fixed
 V1.01  - (08/31/93) This UltraMID offers much faster patch loading than
					 the previous version, and is about 3K smaller.
					 It also can load almost twice as many patches as
					 it used to in the same amount of PC memory.  (You
					 are still bound by the size of your UltraSound card
					 however.)

					 This release also fixes several small bugs.
						 1) DMA bug while loading patches.
						 2) ULTRAMID.INI problems.
						 3) Noises during patch loading.

					 New Features:
						 1) Automatically removes SBOS.
						 2) Can split up its code and data so that if you
							have fragmented upper memory or not enough
							upper memory, UltraMID can still load a
							portion of itself high.


Have fun with it. There are some nice new features. Take a peek at the
README to find out what they are.

John
---
 ~ QMPro 1.50 05-8925 ~ Dogs come when you call. Cats have answering machines.

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Date: Thu, 2 Sep 93 02:26:59 +1000
From: rohan@cairo.anu.edu.au (Rohan Talip)
Subject: SBOS settings in FAQ
Message-ID: <9309011626.AA01517@cairo.anu.edu.au>

Hello All,

I have a question regarding the SBOS versions in the FAQ.  Why do all
of the versions listed in the SBOS settings part of the FAQ have
numbers less than 2.00 (i.e. around 1.20 - 1.23).  Have the same games
been tested with versions higher than SBOS 2.05 (perhaps even 2.06...?) ?


Rohan Talip
rohan@cairo.anu.edu.au
talrfe91@rainbow.anu.edu.au

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 15:21:19 -0300 (ADT)
From: Gravis Ultrasound Lover <markus@Info.UMoncton.ca>
Subject: Ultime Underworld II
Message-ID: <Pine.3.02.9309011519.A4765-a100000@clement>

	Can anyone help me on how to have digital sounds with Ultima
Underworld II.  I tried the Myles drivers, but I only get MIDI music. 
Samething with SBOS (FM music of course).  I tried SBOS on IRQ 5 and 7,
but the INSTALL.EXE programs tells me that no board is detected.  But the
Myles drivers works with Ultima Underworld I.

							Marc Y. Paulin
	 /-----------------------------------------------------------------\
	 |  Fidonet: 1:255/200   Internet: markus@info.umoncton.ca         |
	 |           <to come>       Talk: markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca |
	 \--------------+------------------------------+-------------------/
					| Gravis Ultrasound forever!!! |
					+------------------------------+

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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 93 14:55:25 
From: john.smith@gravis.com
Subject: ULTRASOUND DAILY DIGEST V
Message-ID: <9309011455.A6137wk@gravis.com>

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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 93 14:35:08
From: matthew.arbeid@deepcove.com
Subject: GRAVIS BBS GONE WEIRD
As of today, Thursday...untill Monday the Gravis BBS will be acting weird.
So...till he comes back you can continuue to e-mail us...but don't expect a
response till Monday.
 -----------------------------

Actually the problem was that we ran out of disk space in the middle of
a rebuild of the fidonet nodelist. Hence, the nodelist was corrupt,
hence our mailer was dieing. Took me about 20min to figure out and fix.
All up and running now.

John

PS: I'll tell you all about BBSCON latter. I'm still trying to catch up
on things.

---
 ~ QMPro 1.50 05-8925 ~ /l{TTh7$ C~hanks for hanging up, dear.

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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 93 21:49:44 
From: john.smith@gravis.com
Subject: ULTRASOUND DAILY DIGEST V
Message-ID: <9309012149.A6231wk@gravis.com>

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From: mchen@sol4.cse.psu.edu (Michael Chen)
Subject: Syndicate with SBOS --- trash the /iio option
P.S.  This is with SBOS 2.0B8.  I don't use 9 or 10 because they crashed
a few things that I don't remember.
 -----------------------------

In case anyone is interested I finished Syndicate about 20 minutes ago.
I was using SBOS V2.0B9. Kewl game. The only sucky thing was that I was
expecting a better ending.


John
---
 ~ QMPro 1.50 05-8925 ~ Thesaurus: ancient reptile with an excellent
vocabulary.

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 13:52:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Phat H Tran <ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Wing Commander Academy
Message-ID: <Pine.3.05.9309011339.A1543-a100000@sciborg>

> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 93 23:23:21 EDT
> From: Matthew Spewak <Matthew.Spewak@lambada.oit.unc.edu>
> Subject: Wing Commander Acad. w/GUS
> Message-ID: <9309010323.AA09595@lambada.oit.unc.edu>
> 
> Origin's latest, Wing Commander Acadamy has .adv drivers for the game.  I
> attempted to copy over with GUS adv drivers, run ultramid -c , and then
> the game, but it locks.  It says: Loading Wing Commander Acad and just
> sits there.
> 
> With SBOS it loads for less then 1 second until the game starts to pop up,
> but sounds HORRIBLE with sbos.
> 

Just wondering...  How long are you waiting?  Perhaps the game is sending
a long SysEx stream (since it thinks that the GUS is an MT-32), which
can cause delays of 20 secs to 1 min or more.

Phat.

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 93 21:21:09 EDT
From: iraida@rpi.edu
Subject: Wing Commander Academy
Message-ID: <9309020121.AA03777@client.its.rpi.edu>

	To whomever was talking about WCA with the GUS, I found that megem
works absolutly great with the game.. A heck of a lot better than when using 
SBOS.. So, give megem/roland a try.. you'll be impressed!

Adam Traidman
iraida@rpi.edu

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 09:58:34 +0501 (EDT)
From: Gunnar Swanson <gunnar@gibbs.oit.unc.edu>
Subject: Wing Commander Academy with AIL.
Message-ID: <Pine.3.05.9309010931.A9973-a100000@gibbs.oit.unc.edu>

Uh, guy the problem that you are haveing with the AIL drivers is a simple
one.  Mainly they do not work with Origins stuff.   This is why it is
always good to peruse the README file that comes with software.  The Miles
drivers that Origin uses are not the same as the standard ones.  They are
slightly modified.  So I guess choke it down and merely use SBOS. 

Question: Did you write the company about a possible release of GUS
	  support in an update of Bio Menace?


			Good Luck


			Gunnar Swanson


gunnar@gibbs.oit.unc.edu



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