Ultrasound Daily Digest     Sun Jul 11 00:07     Volume 4: Issue  40  

Today's Topics:
			  2.06 Disks - Windows Installation Problem
					   a few things (as usual)
						 Cubase with the GUS?
							 Drum patches
				   Edit Patch Grayed - Answer (WAY)
						   GUS & Flashback
			   How do I configure GUS for Ultima7 pt1?
						 Links 386 Pro & GUS
			   SB-compatible card to use alongside GUS
							Ultima7 & AIL
					Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #39
						  WinCD with the GUS

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Sat, 10 Jul 93 13:52:57 +0100
From: T.Walker@swansea.ac.uk
Subject: 2.06 Disks - Windows Installation Problem
Message-ID: <5677.9307101252@pygmy.swan.ac.uk>

Apologies if this has already been aired in past digests.

When I got my 2.06 disks, I removed all traces of the V1.22 Ultrasound software 
from my hard drive - including editing out any mention in win.ini, system.ini, 
control.ini, autoexec.bat and config.sys. The installation went fine until it 
got to the Windows installation, when it halted with an error

		  FATAL ERROR AT SCRIPT LINE 343
		  Unable to open destination file

after the Gravis bitmap had appeared. I thought it was probbaly due to some 
problem with the old software interfering, so I thought no more of it and 
installed the Windows stuff manually.

However, I bought a larger hard drive a week ago, and reinstalled DRDOS 6.0, 
Windows 3.1 and then the Ultrasound software from new. The same thing happened 
when the installation got to Windows, same error etc. This time there was no old 
software to interfere - so what's the problem?

I looked in the winsetup.inf file that's in the ultrasnd directory, and made 
some changes to see what I could find out. By adding lines like

		   SetTopLineTo Got to this point (#1)

I could trace the execution of the windows installer program. I worked out that 
it was unable to work out the location of the system.ini file - the variables 
[WinDrvPath1], [WinDrvPath2], [SysPath] and [ConPath] were all being set to c:\ 
(I used SetTopLineTo [WinDrvPath1] etc. to work this out). So I altered the 
lines where the installer searches for system.ini etc. to give the explicit 
paths, e.g.

		   [SysPath]= c:\windows\system.ini.

Then the installer worked fine. I have no idea why the installer couldn't locate 
system.ini (but note it didn't stop and say it couldn't find it), unless it's a problem with DRDOS 6.0. I'm also using SuperPCKwik disk cache 
(supplied with DRDOS). Any ideas?

Tim Walker.

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Date: Sat, 10 Jul 93 20:26:25 GMT
From: mike@batpad.org (Mike Batchelor)
Subject: a few things (as usual)
Message-ID: <znr742335985k@batpad>

In your message you write:

> From: pccmoddan@aol.com
> Subject: a few things (as usual)
>
> Secondly, to say that the UltraSound may have no future is naive. The card
> has a decent-sized established user base, which has proven to be one of the
> most religious-like followings of any product in this industry. There are a
> number of software developers who *really* like the UltraSound, and are
> supporting it right now. And with the AIL drivers available for the GUS the
> others have little excuse for lack of GUS support.
>
> This card hasn't been out terribly long, and for a product that takes a
> completely new and dynamic approach to the sound issue, it is doing extremely
> well.

I agree completely.  I used to have a SB Pro, the documentation 
was marginal, the software barely adequate, nothing to write 
home about.  On the other hand, the quality of the GUS software 
is very good to superb, and the documentation - while not 
exhaustive - is complete, well organized and easy to 
understand.  The card has all the features that the mainstream 
competitors lack - like a line out!  I got rid of my SB Pro 
because anything I plugged into the amplified out sounded like 
crap, even headphones - I never got a hum-free signal from the 
thing.  Then there is the volume control on the backplane of the 
SB Pro - very awkward.  I could go on and on...

I was especially impressed with the GUS Install - it tells you 
when and what files it is going to modify, it tells you what it 
is going to change, and it tells you the names of the backup 
files it makes.  Contrast this with the usual run-of-the-mill 
install program that does things without asking or telling you 
(like DOS 6 and Windows Setup).  Gravis did it right the first 
time, and I applaud that.  I wish all Installs were as smooth 
and painless.  One thing is certain - new GUS users will 
definitely get a good first impression.

--
	///////////////////////////////
   //////  Mike Batchelor ////////
  ////// mike@batpad.org ////////
 //// Mar Vista, California ////
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Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1993 22:44:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion)
Subject: Cubase with the GUS?
Message-ID: <9307110244.AA24024@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>

Anybody got any sound at all out of Cubase?
Even with all the patches loaded, i cant get anything from the GUS. The setup
is set for multimedia windows.

Ciao,
-- 
Francois Dion
	'  _   _   _ 
 CISM (_) (_)  _) FM       Montreal , Canada       Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA
	  (_)  / . _)             10000 Watts          Telephone no: (514) 343-7511
_______________________________________________________________________________
Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-...

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Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1993 22:46:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion)
Subject: Drum patches
Message-ID: <9307110246.AA24105@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>

I am still looking for a way to construct drumkits without changing the
root note in the patch. If somebody has done this, i'd like to know.

Ciao,
-- 
Francois Dion
	'  _   _   _ 
 CISM (_) (_)  _) FM       Montreal , Canada       Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA
	  (_)  / . _)             10000 Watts          Telephone no: (514) 343-7511
_______________________________________________________________________________
Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-...

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Date: 10 Jul 93 10:43:43 EDT
From: "Eric Bell, Howling Dog Systems" <71333.2166@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Edit Patch Grayed - Answer (WAY)
Message-ID: <930710144342_71333.2166_DHQ30-1@CompuServe.COM>

> From Afzal Ballim <afzal@divsun.unige.ch>
> Subject PowerChords - Edit Patch Grayed - Answer (NOT)

> I'm getting a grayed edit patch button on occassions EVEN
> when I am doing melody!
> -Afzal

Afzal, I had another look at this. Do you have 'Numeric Patch Mapping'
selected? There will be an edit box beside 'Patch:' to enter the numeric patch
if this is true. 

Since the GUS driver supports General MIDI, you should use General MIDI Patch
Mapping (which is the default). 

To change this, select 'Options' from the main menu, then 'MIDI...'.

Eric Bell, Howling Dog Systems

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Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1993 09:16:29 -0300 (ADT)
From: Shadow Of Fear <markus@Info.UMoncton.ca>
Subject: GUS & Flashback
Message-ID: <Pine.3.02.9307100929.A17833-b100000@clement>

Andre Jakobs:

Hi,

	I have Flashback too and could make it work.  The music is so-so,
but the digital sounds are mostly important.  You hear them 80% of the game.
	Only SBOS 2.0B8 and 2.0B9 works okay with Flashback.  Music isn't
very good and sometimes out of tune.  You can also hear cracks and pops
with the music, but I could live with that.  The music is only for the
animations scenes and there are no digital sound during thos scenes.
	But for the digital stuff during the game, TURN UP THE VOLUME!!! 
And at maximum! :)
	No switches required.  John Smith said that SBOS 2.0B10 was for
Flashback.  I tried it.  The music is excellent this time, but the digital
sounds are totally waisted.  I prefer to have nice sounds than have nice
music on this game.

							Marc Y. Paulin
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					| Gravis Ultrasound forever!!! |
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Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1993 02:29:51 -0700
From: George Hepker <georgehh@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: How do I configure GUS for Ultima7 pt1?
Message-ID: <199307100929.AA20210@sandstorm.berkeley.edu>

Thanks to everyone for giving me places to find a GUS.  I found Aroma Computers
in Sunnyvale has a good selection.  I purchased a PAS16 and a GUS.  The GUS
simply blows away the PAS for quality of sound!  But I'd like to get the GUS
to simulate an LAPC-1, Ive seen the MT32 files but I don't know if their
related?  I want to get the most out of this card especially for games.

Thanks for your help,
George Henry Hepker VI
georgehh@ocf.berkeley.edu

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Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1993 22:11:22 -0600 (MDT)
From: jdrichar@nyx.cs.du.edu (David Richards)
Subject: Links 386 Pro & GUS
Message-ID: <9307110411.AA10360@nyx.cs.du.edu>

Could anyone that has gotten these two to work together please tell me how??
Trying to get it to run on a 386SX-20 with 4 megs of ram, GUS settings
220,7,7,11,5.. Any help would be appreciated.


Dave

jdrichar@nyx.cs.du.edu

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Date: Sat, 10 Jul 93 11:02:02 GMT
From: mike@batpad.org (Mike Batchelor)
Subject: SB-compatible card to use alongside GUS
Message-ID: <znr742302122k@batpad>

Well, I've just about given up on SBOS.  When it works, it works 
very well.  More than half the games I've tried have worked 
without a hitch.  But the ones that don't work straightaway, 
usually aren't going to sound very well once I find the 
SBOS switches that they need.  Or the game will halt when a 
digitized sound is played.  SBOS does a very good job of 
emulating a SB in software, but I can't help but think that this 
approach is just going to have some limitations that can only be 
overcome by getting the real hardware.

So - I am now shopping for a SB compatible card to install 
alongside the GUS.  I hve a few questions:

What clone cards have audio line out?  I have already ruled out 
a real SB, since they have only amplified out.  This sounds like 
$h!+ when plugged into anything - even headphones (I had a real 
SB Pro before the GUS, but sold it for this reason).  Not to 
mention the volume control is on the backplane of the card, a 
real inconvenience.

Once I get the second card, is there anything I need to be aware 
of?  I am assuming that since the GUS is working as well as it 
does with SBOS now, that setting the SB-clone to the same 
settings (SB defaults, actually) will work also.  As I 
understand it, the SB IRQ you set in setgus is used only by SBOS 
- no SBOS, no conflict between the GUS and a SB-clone.  I am 
wondering if there is going to be a conflict between the MIDI on 
the SB clone and the GUS MIDI, though.  What about Windows 
drivers?  How is this best set up?

Also, how can I best mix the digitized SB sound with GUS music 
output?  Two line outs, can they simply be mixed with a simple 
mixing board (like Radio Shack sells)?  Or is there an even 
simpler way of doing it (like plugging the SB line out into the 
GUS line in)?

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Date: Sat, 10 Jul 93 00:28:05 PDT
From: jason.lin@pro-palmtree.socal.com (Jason Lin)
Subject: Ultima7 & AIL
Message-ID: <ga01695@pro-palmtree.socal.com>

I've heard a few people claimed to have success in using the GUS AIL
drivers with Ultima 77.  All I want to know is HOW!

-=Jason Lin=-

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Date: Sat, 10 Jul 93 12:48:12 EDT
From: Phat H Tran <ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #39
Message-ID: <9307101648.AA09325@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>

> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 93 22:49 GMT
> From: EXT0012@VAX2.QUEENS-BELFAST.AC.UK
> Subject: Alone in the Dark & C-MO queries.
> Message-ID: <9307092158.AA18748@orca.es.com>
> 
> Hi all.
> 
>      I know I'm slightly behind the times here, but could someone shed some 
> light on using the GUS with "Alone in the Dark"?
> 
>      I've tried every combination of SBOS (2.08 & 2.0B9) switches I can think 
> of, but to no avail. The only way I can get anything is to set it up as ADLIB 
> for music and PC squeaker for sound effects - not ideal.
>

Alone in the Dark worked fine for me.  I used SBOS 1.20, my GUS was on
220,7,7,12,5, and I chose SB DMA in the game's setup.
 
> ] Date: Fri, 9 Jul 93 01:44:56 +0300
> ] From: tjakobs@mswe.dnet.ms.philips.nl (THEO_JAKOBS TEL.62667)
> ] Subject: trouble with gus
> ] Message-ID: <9307082244.AA14774@muxgw1.ms.philips.nl>
> ] 
> ] Hi...
> ]
> ] I recently have purchased me a GUS, but since the time i put the thing
> ] in the computer till the time i'm writing this i have not really
> ] enjoyed the card.
> ] 
> ] I've got some problems:
> ] 
[...]
> ] 2.
> ] SBOS......... well i don't know what everybody's talking about, but
> ] this SBOS......... well i really can't say this is a SB emulator,
> ] because i can't get it to work with almost every game.. like prince of
> ] persia 2, it is really a terrible noise that it provides, and after
> ] the first spoken line(of the story) it stops saying anything, but i
> ] still hear that awfull music(the SB is much much much better), or
> ] Alone in the dark... i start SBOS 2.10, and i select the SB(with DMA),
> ] but when the first graphix should appear, the com- puter just freezes
> ] up...
> ]

Sounds like you might need SBOS 1.20 (which is on one of the Ultrasound
ftp sites).  The SBOSes after 1.23 don't work well at all on certain
computers with flakey DMA (eg. mine), while SBOS 1.20 tends to do well 
on almost anything.  I use 1.20 exclusively, and it hasn't failed me
yet.

Also, try yanking out your Multi-I/O card and test SBOS 2.10 again.
Everything works perfectly for me if I do that, but then I'd be short
a mouse and a printer.

> ] 3.
> ] Because of the trouble i have with SBOS, i would like to know why i
> ] can't use my SOUNDBLASTER (compatible) in my computer.. when i select
> ] another DMA,IRQ and baseadress this should work(or not?)..
> ] 

You will need to remove ultrinit.sys from your config.sys if you want
to use your SB alongside your GUS.  For certain games, you will also 
need to load SBOS, and then unload it (-f option) before the SB will be
recognized.

> ] Date: Wed, 07 Jul 93 12:45:05 -0400
> ] From: "Momentary language, sexual situations" <dantonio@magick.tay2.dec.com>
> ] Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #35 
> ] Message-ID: <9307071645.AA02521@magick.tay2.dec.com>
> ] 
> ] > Bah, give it time.  The GUS is still pretty new, and most stores don't
> ] > even carry it.  If programmers were to start supporting every piece of
> ] > hardware that came out, they'd spend all their time writing device
> ] > drivers.  Even if a program is 100 times better, it still has to find
> ] > its place in the market.
> ] 
> ] The last thing anything has in the PC world is time. I've seen support for
> ] Aria-based cards and the Microsoft Sound System, yet these same programs
> ] don't support the GUS. Now that the AIL drivers are done, I think support
> ] will blossom, but "give it time" is a quick route to death in the PC biz...
> ] 

You've seen support for Aria cards?  Where?

The funny thing is that the Aria Miles drivers are bigger than the GUS'
(in file size, according to the list of .adv files in GUSAIL*.ZIP).
I think that the Aria's MIDI .adv was 44k, while the GUS' was 10k, and
Ultramid 31k.  (These are the file sizes, not the amount of memory the
drivers take up.  I know that Ultramid allocates another 20k once loaded.)
With the inferior sound quality, smaller potential, and probably smaller
user base, I'd be annoyed if the Arias get support faster than the GUS.
Any early support may be due to the fact that the Arias had Miles drivers
several months before the GUS.

> ] Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 10:42:04 -0700
> ] From: winston@Cadence.COM (Winston S Worrell)
> ] Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V4 #37 Xwing now works
> ] Message-ID: <9307081742.AA01110@cds653>
[..] 
> ] 
> ] I now have the problem whre the screen freezes/jumps/locks when I fire.,
> ] any way around that one? 
> ] 

Turn off the music during the missions.

> Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1993 10:19:42 EDT
> From: vince@jsrvx2.ucsf.edu
> Subject: Help with GUS and Xwing
> Message-ID: <0096F3CB.06FC3120.1086@jsrvx2.ucsf.edu>
> 
> Fellow GUSers!
>   I just picked up a gus a week ago, and it sounds terrific!  I plugged it in,
> played with the stuff that came with it, and tried a couple of mod players. When I
> first installed the gus, I used the defaults, and most of the players worked. My
> favorite mp219b played mods perfectly, but didn't display. The picture would flash
> on the display just before the menu returned if I aborted a mod while it was playing.
> 
> Now ,however, it doesn't work anymore :( it plays too slowly. Anyone know whats happening?
> I bet if I can figure this one out, I can figure out why Xwing locks up in Soundblaster
> mode, but works in adlib mode.
>

Only play MODs on your GUS using a native GUS MOD player, such as GUSMOD.
You'll get superior sound and negligible CPU load.  Trash mp219b!

Regarding lock ups in X-Wing... I haven't had any.  Check to see that
your blaster environment is set accordingly, and try changing the SB/MIDI
interrupt on your GUS.  My SB/MIDI int is 5.

Phat.

P.S.  I (a Canadian) received my update disks yesterday (July 9).  So
	  hang in there, citizens of the Great Multicultural North.

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Date: Sat, 10 Jul 93 11:06:51 GMT
From: mike@batpad.org (Mike Batchelor)
Subject: WinCD with the GUS
Message-ID: <znr742302411k@batpad>

I'll be getting a CDROM drive next week or so, probably a 
Mitsumi.  I'm probably going to pick up WinCD along with 7th 
Guest as my first CDROM titles.  Has anyone used WinCD with 
this combination?  I see the GUS has a CDROM audio input on it - 
is there any special adapter needed?

Any problem with this combination?
--
	///////////////////////////////
   //////  Mike Batchelor ////////
  ////// mike@batpad.org ////////
 //// Mar Vista, California ////
///////////////////////////////

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Date: (null)
From: (null)

What other considerations are there?  Two boards that I might 
consider are the Thunderboard, and the ATI Stereo/FX.  Does 
anyone know if these meet my criteria?  (maybe this is better 
posted to c.s.i.soundcard) 
--
	///////////////////////////////
   //////  Mike Batchelor ////////
  ////// mike@batpad.org ////////
 //// Mar Vista, California ////
///////////////////////////////

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