GUS Daily Digest            Tue, 8 Mar 94  9:37 PST      Volume 11: Issue  33 

Today's Topics:
					   AMI Settings and the GUS
							 FS5 + patch
						 GUS and AVI slowdown
							GUS and FS5.0a
				  GUS Daily Digest V11 #32 (2 msgs)
				   Internet to Gravis Tech Support
							Rebel Assault
			Step by step instructions for games GUS setup
					   That init problem again
							The 7th guest

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 10:43:24 -0500 (EST)
From: William Birkmaier <wbirkmai@lynx.dac.neu.edu>
Subject: AMI Settings and the GUS

Hi, I know this only has a little to do with the GUS but some people
were saying how the bus speed is 10 Mhz with the setting clk/5 on the
AMI BIOS.  Iwas wondering if anyone knew what speeds clk/8, clk/6,
clk/5, clk/4, and clk/2 represent.  Also is there a place on the net
that explains the AMI BIOS settings in more detail?


Thanx,

Will

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Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 2:16:01 EST
From: dmcintyr@muselab.ac.runet.edu
Subject: FS5 + patch

Well, per Thomas Trusk's post yesterday I got the patch for FS5...  On the
one hand, it works just fine.  On the other hand, they "fixed" the sound
at the expense of not being able to pitch shift the sample in the middle
of playback.  The resulting effect is a very marked and annoying change in
the engine sound as you increase the throttle:

PLAY ENTIRE ENGINE SAMPLE AT SPEED ONE -->  PLAY ENTIRE ENGINE SAMPLE AT
SPEED TWO --> etc. etc.

Also, the samples they use for the engines have to be the worst job of
looping I've ever seen.   The propeller sound has some sort of background
noise or something in it so that after awhile all you hear is
na-wa-naaah-naaah na-wa-naaah-naaah...

The jet sound is even worse.  It's like
Screeeeeee-diwarguhmph-Screeeeee-diwargumph-Screeeeee-diwargumph-Screeee....

These sounds SEEM to sound even WORSE than they used to, but perhaps it's
only been a long time since I played with it.

Frankly, I'm still underwhelmed by Flight Simulator 5.


And now for something completely different:

Did anyone ever get Quest for Glory IV working with the GUS successfully? 
After I got the latest patch awhile back, even using my genuine Sound
Blaster as a last resort, the stupid thing STILL craps out with a DOS/4GW
idiot report whenever it tries to play a sample.

--Michael-- << dmcintyr@muselab.ac.runet.edu >> <<dmcintyr@vt.edu>>

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Date: 8 Mar 94 09:41:02 GMT
From: "A.J.Sithers" <WPHAJS@cardiff.ac.uk>
Subject: GUS and AVI slowdown

Hello All!

Perhaps this has been discussed before, but I can't find it in the FAQ so,
can somebody please help me.

I've just installed a panasonic 2x CD rom in my 386DX-25, using its own
interface card.  Under Windows, Cromptons (sp.?) video clips seem to drop
frames when pumping sound to the gus.  Remove the card and the video works
just fine.  Put the whole shebang into a 486-66 and I get *exactly* the same
problem.  Play a sound clip and everything is (again) just fine.  If I run
the AVI under media player, the frames are still missing.

Here's the killer.  I put a SB-pro in the machine and EVERYTHING works fine.
My guess is that the GUS is slowing the audio processing down.  I've tried
swapping the DMA and IRQ settings but NO change.

Since I bought the GUS specifically with CD rom in mind, I'm a might cheesed
off with this.  Perhaps I should have got an SB-16 ?

Can anybody help ?  (if you eMail then I'll post all messages up to this
group and the daily-digest).

Cheers

Andy


					
A.J.Sithers                                Department of Pharmacology                 
										   UWCM, Heath Park, Cardiff
eMail: sithersAJ@cardiff                   United Kingdon, CF4 3QD
				 
				   It works! It works! I'm a Genius!

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Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 13:14:24 +0000 (GMT)
From: M Beddow <gll6mb@gps1.leeds.ac.uk>
Subject: GUS and FS5.0a

In a posting dated Mon, 07 Mar 1994 08:44:37 -0700, 
ttrusk@post.its.mcw.edu (Thomas C Trusk) writes:

> 
> I tested the latest patch to Flight Simulator 5 out with the GUS last night. 
> This is the FS50a.zip patch found at ftp.iup.edu (it's 1.4 Mb). I unzipped 
> it into a temp dir on C: and ran it, chose the fltsim5 dir on D: and turned 
> it loose. Took less than 2 minutes. I then ran SETUP in the fltsim5 dir (as 
> suggested).  
> [...]
> I used the latest version of SBOS.  I also set the use XMS switch and chose 
> digitized sound in FS5. (SBOS is running without any switches.) When run, 
> FS5a was great. There are many improvements, including graphics, frame rate, 
> cloud generation, SOUND CARD SUPPORT, etc.  This is what FS5 should have 
> been.  The GUS had NO PROBLEMS!  The sound was continuous (NO gaps), and 
> every sound was present (landing gear, flaps, landing markers, crashes).  

Before everybody gets too excited, I'm afraid I have to report that my
experience with the upgrade has been very different. Apparently the same
settings as Thomas describes, but for me the digital sound option produces
a half-second silence every four seconds on steady sounds, and when the
sound changes (throttle opening, etc.) the same silly cycle of snatches
of wrong sounds (tire squeal, jet noise, water splash) as before.
Synthesised sound continues to work OK, if you can stand it.

Could this be a DOS version problem, as suggested in earlier postings?

I'm using DOS 6.2 with 16M total RAM on a 33Mhz 486DX.
 

> While flying over Chicago in the dark I turned the plane over to the 
> Instructor for a landing at Meigs.  He(she) ran smack into the Sears Tower 
> (about floor 50) as I watched in amazement.  As we lay in a heap at floor 1 
> the instructor said: Your plane.  Oh well...maybe the instructor will get AI 
> in FS5b.
> 
Quite right! In 5.0, the instructor sometimes crashed. Now he seems to
crash every time. Using the Paris Scenery addon, I asked him to land me
from 5,000 ft over the city centre. He flew me accurately enough to Le
Bourget, executed the landing pattern well enough, until the final
approach, when he suddenly turned the plane on its side and landed on
the port wing! 

Michael

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Date: Mon, 07 Mar 94 23:44:57 EST
From: dan@vlad.bowker.com (Daniel Nicholson)
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V11 #32

T.W.Nichols@hertfordshire.ac.uk (Toby) writes:

> In my experiance the Inertia Player is the best MTM player I have found.
> All MTMs play just as they should. You get some nice graphics of the

Not necessarily. Almost every MTM I've written won't play with Inertia
Player. It has a few flaw, the most serious being that it cannot use an MTM
or MOD with single samples larger than 64k. The MTM format allows for
samples of any size, as long as it can fit them all into available memory
(1mb) and I frequently use sampling rates of 32 and 44khz. If there's *1*
sample above 64k in the MTM, it will refuse to play it.

*Some* MTMs do play extremely well with Inertia Player, but I've found
neither of the players which currently support the format (IPLAY and DMP)
to be satisfactory. Unless the composer tells you otherwise, it's best for
now to stick with the editor itself, MMEDIT.

The latest KLF MTM releases are now on EPAS in the pub/pc/ultrasound/submit
directory under the names KLFZYMBA.ZIP and RC3-KLF.ZIP. The former will
play excellent under Inertia Player; the later requires MMEDIT for proper
playback.

- Dan

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Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 08:10:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Rath <cllym@ucdavis.edu>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V11 #32

RE: FS5.0

Thanks to Thomas, who posted his results RE: FS 5.

That's great to see nice reviews/reports of SUCCESS with the GUS, rather 
than always having to skim thru complaints and other unhappiness.

thanks thomas!  i'm going to go get the patch right now for fs5!

Rath

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Date: 07 Mar 94 10:45:05 PST
From: ksoule@tatertot.com (KSoule)
Subject: Internet to Gravis Tech Support

>Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 09:20:31 -562308 (GMT-5623:08)
>From: "J.Waghorn" <ts0jwa@orac.sunderland.ac.uk>
>Subject: Problems with USS8

> I got a problem with Ultrasound Studio 8, and as tech@gravis.com
>seems to be a bottomless pit I'll try you guys out with this one ....


My records indicate that correct Internet addresses are  
"tech1@gravis.com" and "tech2@gravis.com".  This would explain 
why your mail is being returned.

See if one of these addresses will work for you!!

Kent 

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Date: Tue, 08 Mar 94 09:43:03 EDT
From: Henrique 'Snoopy' Vianna <HVIANNA@brufpel.bitnet>
Subject: Re: Rebel Assault

 
 
On Sun, 6 Mar 1994 15:49:15 -0500
   KWAN  RICHARD SIK YIU <kwanr@ecf.toronto.edu> wrote:
 
> I saw the REBEL ASSULT has Ultrasound support, anyone knows how good
> it was? Native mode or SBOS or Mega-em??
> Thanks in advance!
 
Well, it's native mode, but the music is all digitized, not midi. It
sounds great, but it's not great advantage over other sound cards...
Actually, I have a GUS and a SBPro, and the game runs slower with the
GUS, and also the sound is worse than with the SBPro. So, if you want
an opinion: the game is really great, but the GUS support sucks.
 
By the way, if any of you are having problems with Rebel Assault like
"Unexpected interrupt" messages from DOS4GW (yuck!) or joystick jumpiness,
don't miss the fix for the game, it works! (at least, worked for me).
It's on ftp.uml.edu at msdos/Games/Patches, the file being rebel14.zip.
 
Regards,
  Snoopy.
 
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Henrique Avila Vianna                                   hvianna@brufpel.bitnet
Universidade Federal de Pelotas                         hvianna@vortex.ufrgs.br
Centro de Informatica            "Imagination is more important than knowledge"
96010-900  Pelotas, RS  BRAZIL                               - Albert Einstein

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Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 16:01:35 GMT
From: nguyen@eerie.fr (NGUYEN Francois                   )
Subject: Step by step instructions for games GUS setup

I do not know if such a guide already exists
but I think it would be a good idea to write one.

If it does exist, please let me know, I think many
of us would be happy to get it.

If it does not, I offer to collect the infos and
to put them together into a file.

Thanks to send me a complete description of how
to install and play games with the gus 
(i am talking about special installation, such as
special irq number, megaem, special option with 
sbos, or special version of sbos, ...

send everything to nguyen@eerie.fr
				   ---------------

thanks everyone

Francois
	'


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				Francois Nguyen: nguyen@eerie.fr

 

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Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 14:41:25 +0000 (GMT)
From: Toby <T.W.Nichols@hertfordshire.ac.uk>
Subject: That init problem again

Success at last! I finally got my 2.4 card to init properly with version 
ultrinit v 2.18. How ? ? buy remming out ultrajoy. Quite what ultrajoy 
has to do with ultinit is beyond me. If I find I need ultrajoy for 
anything I will reinstall from my origional disk set.

My advice to anybody with a 2.4 card:

DO NOT let the GUS0041 upgrade intall over the top of your old files.
tell it to install to a seperate directory. Then copy over all the new 
files into your existing ultrasound directories but leaving out. 
Ultrinit, ultrajoy, and the setup programs. The new versions do nothing 
new and only lead to problems. Once you have all the files in place wipe 
the new directory and edit you autoexec and config.sys putting your old 
ultrasound path back in.

PS anybody seen Jangle by TDS inc. supposedly a very good Ultrasound demo.
I can't find it!

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Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 00:46:32 -0500
From: KWAN  RICHARD SIK YIU <kwanr@ecf.toronto.edu>
Subject: The 7th guest

Could anyone kindly repost the configuration of the GUS and the 7th guest.
I had update the program and manually change the ini file, but it crashed
after the introductions and hangup!

Thanks in advance!
:)

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