Ultrasound Daily Digest     Wed,  3 Feb 93       Volume 2 : Issue  31 

Today's Topics:
						   Admin request...
					 Admin request... followup...
	  Does Gravis have an 800 number? If so what is it? (2 msgs)
						  GUS/gset question
							 Huge Mistake
							Memory Prices
					 New GUS Owner With Questions
					 Non-OPTI Motherboard ideas?
			  Seeking comments of Adaptec 1542B with GUS
					   software release rumours
							Starcon II fix
							 Udox on epas
						   Ultra-won't-work
					   Ultrasound Daily Digest
							   wav2pat

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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 93 16:39:32 MST
From: ddebry@itchy (Dave DeBry)
Message-Id: <9302022339.AA04515@itchy>
Subject: Admin request...
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

	Heya, folks.

	My newsfeed has been down for about 3 days now, and no one
seems to know why or when it will come back up.  I can post to news,
but I can't read it.

	So, could someone please forward news posts (if there are any)
concerning the FAQ to me?

	(Also, if you see an article relevant to the digest, please
send it to the digest, at least until I get my feed up again.)

	Thanks!

-- 
Dave  ddebry@ debry@   \
DeBry dsd.    peruvian. | "Iambic functioning!" "Pentameter locked in!"
	  es.     cs.utah.  | "Hyperbole jettisoned!"
	  com     edu      /

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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 93 19:25:57 MST
From: ddebry@itchy (Dave DeBry)
Message-Id: <9302030225.AA05459@itchy>
Subject: Admin request... followup...
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

	...at least, I *think* I can post to news.  Did the FAQ make it to any newsgroups?


-- 
Dave  ddebry@ debry@   \
DeBry dsd.    peruvian. | "Sorry, my mind went to Bermuda for a minute."
	  es.     cs.utah.  |
	  com     edu      /

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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 93 17:24:31 EST
From: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ <andreast@Athena.MIT.EDU>
Message-Id: <9302022224.AA14896@m1-142-20>
Subject: Does Gravis have an 800 number? If so what is it?
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

Anyone know if Advanced Gravis has an 800 number?

Also I forget if there was any (semi-)official word(of mouth)...

What is the ETA on the new GUS 3D???

Thanks guys,
Andreas.

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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 93 17:24:31 EST
From: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ <andreast@Athena.MIT.EDU>
Message-Id: <9302022224.AA14896@m1-142-20>
Subject: Does Gravis have an 800 number? If so what is it?
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

Anyone know if Advanced Gravis has an 800 number?

Also I forget if there was any (semi-)official word(of mouth)...

What is the ETA on the new GUS 3D???

Thanks guys,
Andreas.

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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 93 10:22:06 EST
From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion)
Message-Id: <9302021522.AA16595@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
Subject: GUS/gset question
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

Beyond the ultraworld of Ernest Y. Chuang:
> 
> Hi.  Do you happen to know why it seems impossible to have both
> SBOS and the line input working at the same time?

Because SBOS reset the i/o to line in off, micro off (till it is used) and
out on. A solution, or so i tought, would have been to turn the line in back
on, but read on.

> I just downloaded
> your gset program, hoping it would solve this problem, but apparently
> if I load SBOS and then run "gset lo", the SB emulation no longer
> functions.

And as you have noticed Twilight Zone have made the same application more
recently and it does the same thing (which is almost nothing if you check
the source i have included, and it is probably the same thing that TZ do -
as a side note, i dont see the point of doing that in assembler...).

Now what happen is that SBOS will disable itself when a GUS aware application
access certains commands of the GUS. Now dont quote me on that, but i
suppose they did that so that games who support SB and GUS wont be fooled by
SBOS. As soon as the program checks for a GUS, SBOS is disabled. So it is the
reason why Star Control II run exactly the same with SBOS or with GUS support.

> I contacted Gravis tech support a couple months ago,
> asking about why SBOS seems to disable the line input, but they
> couldn't give me an answer.

Simple: i dont think there is a way to read the i/o status, so they always
use the default: in off, mic off, out on in their applications (including the
windows driver). Now they could have put that in an environment variable if you
ask me...

Ciao,
-- 
Francois Dion
	'  _   _   _ 
 CISM (_) (_)  _) FM       Montreal , Canada       Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA
	  (_)  / . _)             10000 Watts          Telephone no: (514) 343-7511
_______________________________________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1993 14:08:29 -0400 (AST)
From: Shadow Of Fear <markus@info.umoncton.ca>
Message-Id: <Pine.3.02.9302021429.A319-b100000@nirvana>
Subject: Huge Mistake
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
	  Directly from his dark office on the top of a dark Tower.....
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

	Yesterday, I was on epas.  I saw a file called AXELF.ARJ.  I
wanted to download it, but instead of typing 'get', I typed 'del' and
deleted the file by mistake.  I don't know what I was thiking about at
that moment, but I goofed real bad.  I appologize.
	To the person who uploaded the file: I know that the AXELF.ARJ is
the MOD file of AXEL-F.  I don't know if it's the same AXEL-F that I have.
I can upload it myself.  Heck, I'll upload it.  Again, I'm sorry.  I was a
bad mistake.
										 ____
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			/' )' )' )                |   |   |           
			  /  /  /                 | (_|__/         \   
			 /     /  __. .__    ___  |   |  __.  . .   \  .   ___ 
			/     (__(_/|__) )__/(__   \_/__(_/|__)\_)__/\__)__) <_ 

					Markus on QuartzPARADISE and AfterFive
							(506)855-4974 - Canada
+---------------------------------------------+-----------------------------+
|            markus@info.umoncton.ca          | "My son, ask for thyself    |
| For Talk:  markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca  |  another kingdom.  For that |
|---------------------------------------------+  which I leave is too small |
| When all else fails,  read the instructions |  for thee" - King Philippe  |
+---------------------------------------------+-----------------------------+

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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 93 02:47:22 EST
From: jbennett@aol.com
Message-Id: <9302020247.tn55912@aol.com>
Subject: Memory Prices
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

>>I just got my new GUS and I want to bring it up to 1 Meg
>>(well, 768k so I can run SC2, but why not get the whole
>>enchalada).  Before I go off and scour the pages of
>>Computer Shopper for the best memory prices (knowing damn
>>well that every add is going to say 'Call' for best memory
>>prices), I'd like to know where GUS owners in the states
>>bought their memory and how much they paid...
 
Well, I got my 6 DRAM chips (70ns, to match the ones on the board :) ) from:

Elkco Corporation
41 A North Main Street
N. Grafton, Massachusetts  01536
(508) 839-2111  fax:(508) 839-7753

I got 'em for US$3.85 each, and paid $7 for UPS Blue Label shipping (2nd day
air) to Arizona.  I think ground shipping was $5.  Anyway, my grand total for
6 70ns chips sent to AZ in 2 days was $31 even (including a 90 cent "mystery
surcharge" :) ).  I would imagine 100ns being even cheaper, if you want 'em. 
Not too bad, from what I've seen...

--John
(jbennett@aol.com)

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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 93 13:16:21 PST
From: dggok@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (David G. Gok)
Message-Id: <9302022116.AA07275@ns.PacBell.COM>
Subject: New GUS Owner With Questions
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

I am now the proud owner of a GUS soundcard (1mb).  I have some
questions that maybe the net.experts can help me with.  If there
is an FAQ please point me to it :-)

I installed the 1.21 disks that came with the board.  I also sent
in my registration card.  Do I need to immediately download the
1.22 disks that I see in utoronto, or should I wait (those suckers
are big to ftp)?  Should I just wait for 1.23?  (I did load the
1.22 version of SBOS.)

I see a lot of stuff here about patches.  What are they?  What do I
do?  How would I load them?  Are they just windows, or do I care
even if I just run DOS?

Could some kind soul please define the various file formats
(mod, snd, wav, 699, voc, any others?) What are they?  How are they
created, edited, played?

Thanks a lot for any information!  Once again, if there is an FAQ
or Gravis documentation that has this information, just point me
in the right direction.

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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1993 09:47:10 -0500 (EST)
From: "Mark W. Fleig" <mfleig@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Message-Id: <9302021447.AA14087@orca.es.com>
Subject: Non-OPTI Motherboard ideas?
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

Well, after much help from the many fellow OPTI owners, I've reached the 
conclusion that -you guessed it- I need a new motherboard. Right now it
seems to be the best solution to the problem. So would those of you who
opted for this method mind giving me some pointers to your favorite mail-
order establishment. Plenty in Comp Shopper, but I'd rather go with the 
voice of experience.

For the most part, I've got the Intel 486-25, I've got the 8-meg o' simms.
I just need the full-size motherboard w/ BIOS. What should I expect to pay
for a sturdy board, preferably 256k cache. 

Hey Thanks!

-mark

Side Note: Finally got a chance to sample the likes of StarCon2 with a
	   working GUS. All I can say is: Umm... wow.

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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 93 17:09:16 CST
From: ibmpa!hartmann.austin.ibm.com!lance@ibminet.awdpa.ibm.com (Lance Hartmann)
Message-Id: <9302022309.AA12804@hartmann.austin.ibm.com>
Subject: Seeking comments of Adaptec 1542B with GUS
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

Awhile back, someone (or two) commented about problems with configuring
a GUS in a system with an Adaptec 1542B.  Looking back over my archived
posts, I found only a comment regarding the early GUS "setup" program
causing problems due to its DMA poking.  I never saw another followup
and hence am turning to the group for feedback as I am planning on getting
a 1542B for my machine to replace a different brand controller with which
I've had problems (NOT GUS related -- just buggy in general).  Is anyone
using a 1542B as their primary controller and without difficulties?
Any special setups, limitations (sampling rates???), etc.?

Thanks in advance,
Lance Hartmann (lance%hartmann.austin.ibm.com@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com)
			   Yes, that IS a '%' (percent sign) in my network address.
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All statements, comments, opinions, etc. herein reflect those of the author
and shall NOT be misconstrued as those of IBM or anyone else for that matter.

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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 93 10:25:20 PST
From: "Burns Fisher, VMS DECwindows  02-Feb-1993 1322" <fisher@decwin.enet.dec.com>
Message-Id: <9302021825.AA07979@enet-gw.pa.dec.com>
Subject: software release rumours
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

>As for the rumours on when the software update is going to be, UK support
>told me that it would be mailed out on February 12th

That matches what someone else said (they said a 2 week delay from the previous
date)

>and it would include
>Midisoft and Powerchord, 

A bit surprising, given that they are charging $14 from the BBS offer

>the general midi patches and the 1.22 diskset.

I think someone on the list wrote that a Gravis person told them that the
SBOS that would ship was brand new.  I hope the drivers are also, and not
some disks that we already have!

Burns

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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 93 18:46:36 -0600
From: pancake@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christopher Daniello)
Message-Id: <9302030046.AA04912@doc.cc.utexas.edu>
Subject: Starcon II fix
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

It's true!  Running the p669gu0.exe file and playing a 669 before playing
Star Control II somehow corrects most of the glitches associated with
using a 1 meg GUS.  It's amazing how much better the mods sound now,
I had been playing them on my 1 meg card all along with the missing
instruments.  Someone should mention this to Accolade, since the
669 player is public domain, they could pry it apart and figure
out what they did wrong perhaps.

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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 93 0:24:40 EST
From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion)
Message-Id: <9302030524.AA27595@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA>
Subject: Udox on epas
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

I just uploaded to epas udox-20 which is the complement to ultradox 1.0.
If you are programming the GUS, check it out as it corrects and add some info
from udox #1. It was made by Renaissance.

I would like to take this message as an opportunity to give three cheers to:
Renaissance and its members, Twilight Zone and its members and all other
groups who are supporting the GUS. Thanks also goes to people who contribute
to our archive and our digest and the people who maintain them.

(No it's not the International GUS award 8) )

And last, i can predict you that in less than a month there will be an
explosion of GUS software (patches, demos, programs etc...). Just counting
what Gravis is supposed to release it's already a big chunk!
Oh and BTW, we need to think of a way to include patches with midi files.
Do you think Gravis should support sysex? Of course, the problem with sysex
is that it takes forever to load patches. A standard is needed ASAP!

Ciao,
-- 
Francois Dion
	'  _   _   _ 
 CISM (_) (_)  _) FM       Montreal , Canada       Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA
	  (_)  / . _)             10000 Watts          Telephone no: (514) 343-7511
_______________________________________________________________________________
Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-...

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Date: 2 Feb 93 16:01:31 
From: Simon Whittaker <SWHITTAK@gst-soft.demon.co.uk>
Message-Id: <9302021615.aa24222@gate.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Ultra-won't-work
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

There are obviously some problems with the windows drivers for the
card - loading patches with Cakewalk and WinJammer, and the volume
control. I want to get an updated Windows driver. I've tried the
wuarchive ftp site, but the disks are version 1.21 (same as the
software which arrived with my card). I've also tried connecting to
the Gravis BBS, but it's a dumb modem and couldn't figure out the
setup/rates etc.

So....

	Is there a 100% correct and working Windows driver ?
	Is the wuarchive site out of date ?
	Or have new drivers not been added ?
	What is the configuration of the Gravis BBS ?

	Flames or anything - I just need to know !


And finally, to the British Guy (I should have recorded your name
before starting this message), I sent off for the extra patches in
November - and surprise, surprise, I haven't received them.


Another Satisfied Gravis Customer

Simon



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Simon Whittaker                                 GST Software PLC
Software Engineer                               Meadow Lane
Research and Development                        St. Ives
												Huntingdon
email : swhittak@gst-soft.demon.co.uk           Cambridgshire
voice : +44 (0)480 496789 (no ext. yet !)       PE17 4LG
fax   : +44 (0)480 496189                       England

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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 93 07:28:20 -0800
From: osaki@cobra.arc.nasa.gov (Robert Osaki)
Message-Id: <9302021528.AA22941@cobra.arc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Ultrasound Daily Digest
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

Hi,
As of Dec 9, I stopped receiving your digest.  What gives?
Did I get deleted from the mailing list?  or did you stop mailing it?

Thanks,
Bob Osaki

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Date: 02 Feb 1993 17:38:26 -0500 (EST)
From: STU_JABIRCHE@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Message-Id: <01GU966R7QO28YCDO0@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Subject: wav2pat
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

Well, with a little playing around, I managed to make wav2pat a bit more usable.
The patches seem to have only a small usable section, so I just create the
section where I think I will need it and then use cakewalk to transpose a track
up or down. This usually works ok. I wish the samples would stay the same length
as they went up and down. Aso of now, I can only get sustained notes on the low
end and the higher notes are almost inaudible because they are so short. I also
use pocket recorder to edit the sounds lower or higher before i convert them to
patterns. This chaotic info may be understandable to some, so enjoy if you
followed it.
-=Marc=-

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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 93 08:23:29 EST
From: darkhawk@Athena.MIT.EDU
Message-Id: <9302021323.AA16801@vongole>
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

Are there a software packages like MIght&Magic IV which allows for a different card for music and
sound effects and one for speech. I have been able to use  the Sound Blaster PRO for games that
allow you to select for a speech card. I can't get any music or digitized sound out of it . Has anyone
been able to get compatiblity with other sound cards using sbos. 

Does anybody know when the new installation disk will be available because I am the only person
that has bought a GUS at  the local Electronic Boutique and has kept . Everyone that has returned 
said none of the games worked with SBOS(ver 1.20). Is there a policy that Gravis has about shipping
updated disk and software to stores?

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