GUS Daily Digest            Sat, 25 Feb 95  9:37 PST     Volume 19: Issue  25 

Today's Topics:
                             Final Unity
                             GUS and OS/2
                  GUS Daily Digest V19 #24 (3 msgs)
                  GusMax + Qemm7.5 + SmartDrv + MKII
                       GUS OS/2 driver update?
                     Jostick Problems with MKII.
                  Lands Of Lore and digitized speech
                             Magic Carpet
               Ms Magic School BUS - no MIDI at all %^{
                                Stuff
                              Upgrading
                    Win95 & GUS info - thank you!

Standard Info:
- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 11:37:57 GMT
From: alek@linefeed.com (Alek Hayes)
Subject: Final Unity

Hi All,

>You may like to know that after talking to a chap at Spectrum Holobyte about
>Final Unity I was told that GUS support for this good looking game may not be
>available for the release version.

What the hell?? That's it. If they do that, I'm bombing parliament.

>They say this is due to problems with the game slowing down when the GUS is
>used.
>
>This seems to be the usual excuse I hear for lack of support for the GUS. Can
>anybody help them ?. I'd be mightly p****d off if this was to happen.

Hold on, I thought that the Gus's speciality is that it does it's own
mixing, therefore freeing up processor time for the game so it can run
faster. To me, it seems like a f*cking stupid excuse. Besides, isn't a Final
Unity supposed to be a Windows game? In that case it wouldn't matter.

Ok, ok, lets take it a step at a time.
Has Spectrum Holobyte got an email address? If so, someone print it here so
that we can bombard them with nagging mail. Wahey!

Bfn!

Alek.
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Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 15:24 -0500
From: DANTONIO@PROCESS.COM (Momentary Language, Sexual Situations)
Subject: Re: GUS and OS/2

>Hy there, could any OS/2 (WARP) user tell me something about using my GUS
>with it? I was originally thinking of waiting for windows 95, but now I
>heard that wasn't goning to be release until next year, (So it'll probably 
>won't even be named Win95) And I read a comparison in a mag which prefered
>OS/2 warp above Win95. So I'm thinking of trying OS/2 warp, but first I 
>would like to know how well it goes with my GUS (And, for that matter, how's 
>the compatibility with DOS and Windows?) 

The short answer is that the GUS has 3 sets of drivers available, 2 shareware
and one free from Gravis. Since I haven't used the 1 set release, I won't
comment on them. The 2nd set, Robert Manley's driver, has been very good for
what it does, which is WAV output and MIDI (to an external synth only) in
OS/2.
If you register it, he'll ship ya the DOS Box Roland support that will give
you MIDI under WIN-OS2. I don't think it gives you WAV output under WIN-OS2.

Gravis's alpha OS/2 driver gives you WAV and MIDI under OS/2 and pretty much
nothing under WIN-OS2. Gravis is (supposedly) improving the driver as we
speak.
The normal Windows 3.1(1) drivers WON'T work under OS/2, as they are .VxDs and
VxDs aren't supported under OS/2.

I've found that enabling system sounds causes some pauses due to having to
swap in the MMPM sound stuff. But that's the price of a multitasking OS. For
things like sound in movies, the Manley drives work fine. They used to have a
problem with turning off line-in, but that's supposed to be fixed.

OS/2 has lots of system sounds for opening/closing windows, drap/drop, error
boxes, at the end of a slider, etc. Not to mention the sounds in various OS/2
native games.

Before I used the drivers, I could indeed get the GUS to work in (DOS) games
such as 7th Guest and Ultima Underworld, although I had to use an 8-bit DMA
channel. Even using sound in OS/2, these things should work for full screen
DOS sessions (and who tries to play games in a window? It worked for Ultima
Underworld, but things were tiny!)

DDA

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Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 19:44:46 +0000 (GMT)
From: Sam <Samuel.Marshall@durham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V19 #24

On Fri, 24 Feb -1, GUS Server wrote:

> > Subject: Patches, Patches, Megaem and drivers
> > 
> >  Hi everybody ,
> >  I am getting really disppointed of how gravis is managing the ultrasound.
> >  You send the card and you dont get anything for two years.

I think Gravis and Corel are the only companies ever that we registered 
their stuff and got anything interesting (MS sent loads of junk mail and 
a marginally-useful magazine). Gravis sent us updated driver disks, and 
Corel sent us a christmas card! [Canada do pretty well in the 
replying-to-registration card stakes]

> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 10:18:05 GMT
> From: "Mark.Carline BSc Elec Eng." <mark.carline@unn.ac.uk>
> Subject: Win95 + GUS Drivers - GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER!!
> 
> PLEASE!!! 
> 
> Will either Microsoft or Gravis get their act together for the soundcard
> "Gravis Ultrasound" !!
> 
> If they don't I can't honestly see the ultrasound being around on the
> market place for very much longer !!

Give them a break, they've got 'til August when Win95 is supposed to be 
released.

> Hey! - Everyone out there that feels the same way - Why don't you mail
> microsoft + gravis on :
> 
> chicreq@microsoft.com   and
> tech@gravis.com
> 
> and tell them that if they don't support the card you'll be throwing it a
> way and buying a Creative Labs sound card instead!!!

Don't think MS will be too devastated to hear that :> Anyway, come on. 
People might get desperate - but surely not desperate enough for *Creative 
Labs*? :>

Sam

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Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 19:48:34 +0100 (MET)
From: Jorgen Bergstrom <joggs@astrakan.hgs.se>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V19 #24

Hi.
Anyone know how to get music and speech working with 'Wings of glory' 
from ORIGIN ???

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Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 20:22:47 -0600 (CST)
From: ST4SI@Jetson.UH.EDU
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V19 #24

Does MAXSBOS work with the regular gus with 256k memory?

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Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 17:35:08 -0500 (EST)
From: lalancej@JSP.UMontreal.CA
Subject: GusMax + Qemm7.5 + SmartDrv + MKII

HI All!

It seems that the combinations in the titles don't works together...
I can't use smartdrv with the ultramid for mkii because i get somes
excption 6 or 13 error from qemm.... Can anybody help me...or tell
me if there is an other disk cache available which can works with
all the above??

Thanks!
-- 
Jose Lalancette, Dept. Informatique
University of Montreal
e-mail: lalancej@jsp.umontreal.ca

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Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 22:45:54 -0600 (CST)
From: ST4FX@Jetson.UH.EDU
Subject: GUS OS/2 driver update?

I know the Beta version is already out, and they work fine, but I was
wondering if they were revising/adding to it some extra features, bug fixes,
etc? I've been wondering why there hasn't been an actual release version out 
yet, especially since it seems that Win95 won't be out for a while and it
would seem that Gravis could allocate more resources to OS/2.

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Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 14:35:05 +0000 ()
From: "Eric M. Busalacchi" <emb@herman.tiac.net>
Subject: Jostick Problems with MKII.
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.91.950224143042.297A-100000@herman.tiac.net>

Ok, after driving to the store last night I was able to get 
MKII.  Seems that the people I talked to at the stored were clueless 
(Suprised?), and it was right in front of their face on the shelf.  
Anyways, I am having a little problem.  I have a Gravis Gamepad plugged 
into a Gravis UltraSound MAX and only two buttons will work at any given 
time, you would think they would work perfectly together...  Well, I have 
tried just about everything I know, even using the 'Y' cable and stuff... 
But still nothin'.  Which, sucks, because I am not using the keyboard to 
play MKII. :)  Any suggestions, please let me know.  Thanks! :)

--
Eric M. Busalacchi
emb@herman.tiac.net

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Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 12:26:17 -0700 (MST)
From: "ttait@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca" <ttait@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca>
Subject: Lands Of Lore and digitized speech

This has probably been asked a thousand times before, but here goes.

I was wondering if there is any way of getting the digitized speech 
working in LOL without having to resort to going to a computer store and 
picking up a (YUCK) SoundBlaster (YUCK)?  I have gotten the music and FX 
working fine, but the speech is a gross mush of noise.

Is there anyone at Gravis or Virgin writing some new patches so that the 
speech will work with GUS?  Or is this asking just too much out of life??

To anyone that replies to this message, Thanks.

L8r
Tim


Tim Tait                             email: ttait@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada

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Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 11:39:37 -0800
From: "Dale Newcomb, Jr." <newcomb@gemtech.com>
Subject: Re: Magic Carpet

ac446@rgfn.epcc.Edu (David C Gilliland) wrote:
>Subject: Magic Carpet
>
>Okay, I'll admit it...I'm a newbie here and to the world of
>gus.  I just got it and Magic Carpet, but I can't for the
>life of me get MC to work with any kind of emulation, ie
>megaem or sbos (well, sbos works, but with mulched music
>only) and I was wondering if anyone has a solution to this
>problem.
>Dave

I searched through a recent digest (on the new WWW site
<http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~itam/digest.html#199501> which contains
copies of recent GUS digests - thanks Ignatius!) and all I could find
was mention of running main.exe from the \data directory on the CD
drive. Unfortunately, the ftp-able demo version does not contain this
file so I could not verify it. If you have the full blown game on CD,
you may want to try this though. Anyone else know what I need to do to
get the demo version to work with the GUS? I don't even care if it's
crappy SBOS - just want to hear something!

Dale




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Date: Fri, 24 Feb 95 14:02:57 EST
From: Leo.Hinds@hawk.hcsc.com
Subject: Ms Magic School BUS - no MIDI at all %^{

I tried to set up the MS Magic School Bus, but there seems to be no way to 
get the MIDI sounds to work.  Following the instructions in the help file for 
the midi mapper &MS-MSB does not result in any improvement.

Anyone know what I need to do?

Thanks

Leonard
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2101 W. Cypress Creek Rd - Ft Lauderdale, FL 33309
+305.973.5229 (voice) - +305.977.5580 (fax)
E-mail: leo.hinds@mail.hcsc.com

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Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 21:00:44 -0600
From: bbaskin@mail.utexas.edu (Bryan K. Baskin)
Subject: Stuff

Hey Y'all,

To Jayeson,
        Thank You for still working on Mega-Em, we all appreciate your hard
work. Many of us out here also wouldn't mind at the least a conservative
estimate  of when the next version will be released. Surprise us.

To Mark.Carline,
        Jesus, cool it man!  First of all the GUS doesn't need Mircosoft and
their Win95 to exist. Second, the drivers will be written because its
Windows and everyone like Windows, right? Seriously though, you can't expect
complete support for a piece of software that won't commercially exist for a
very long time. Deal with it. And if you want to get a CL card, do so. Mabye
that GUS will go to someone who appreciates it more.
        If you want GUS sound in a "real" OS now, we all know which one to
pitch: Windows, not the GUS. Get Warped.

To Remco Lam,
        To answer some of your questions:
        About the GUS:
        There are currently two sets of drivers for the GUS in OS/2,
Manley's and Gravis's. Manley's support very good digital, midi through an
external synth, and explicit DOS support including GM emulation and SB
digital in the future. (Note Mega-Em and SBOS/SBOSMAX do not work in OS/2
DOS sessions. They ask for ring 0 functions which is not allowed.) Gravis's
in their current alpha stage offer digital and midi in OS/2 and no explicit
DOS support. Both worked fine for me. All system sounds, native games, etc
that i tried worked with no problems.
        The Windows support is very good. Sessions can be run separately
(For improved crash protection) or in the same session (to save memory).
Win32s are supported as is WinG. The apps i use most work just fine
including Quicken 3, WinEudora, Mac-in-DOS for Windows, and 123v4, etc. The
internet apps for Windows also work just fine (this is written with Eudora).
        The DOS support is also good. Playmidi, Iplay, Scream Tracker, GLX,
Spect, UltraMid, Timeless, SecondReality, Jaleo, SilverBall, Epic Pinball,
One Must Fall, and Descent all work perfectly. Doom 1.9 and Raptor both have
music and no digital. Heretic locks with sound on. Tie Fighter works fine,
but obviously no Mega-Em = no sound. Many demos work fine. I need to
register Manley's drivers...  More normal apps work also. I've seen/tried
VistaPro 3.01, Fractint/DOS, Turbo Pascal (i think that was it). A friend of
mine has CD-Rom drivers, caching support, doskey, etc installed with 612K
free. The amounts of XMS, EMS and DPMI memory is selectable.
        OS/2 is very cool, and with 8MB or more of RAM, a very nice OS. If
necessary its also easy to uninstall. Check the appropriot newsgroups for
more info. Or E-mail me.

To others with Win95,
        Does Win95 allow SBOS or Mega-em to be run?

Later.
                                                  Baskin -)
                                                  The University of Texas at 
                                                  Austin
                                                  Team OS/2

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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 95 08:14 GMT
From: haydn@cix.compulink.co.uk (Haydn Evans)
Subject: Re: Upgrading

In-Reply-To: <memo.615789@cix.compulink.co.uk>
>I have a 1 meg GUS (upgraded), not the MAX. It came with >ver.2.06 
software. I purchased THE ULTRASOUND EXPERIENCE CD-ROM >and tried to 
upgrade the software to ver.3.56. Unfortunately it >does not work...

Many thanks to all who responded to my request. Both via this server and 
direct email. It was (as suggested) the drivers in v.3.56 at fault. I 
installed the  UltraSound Windows Drivers - V5.34 (GUS0042.ZIP) and all 
is sweetness and music! In fact, the response was so good I have a couple 
more questions to ask :-)
1.
I seem to recall seeing a Windows program that gives a graphical 
representation of a midi/mini system. Is there one available that will 
work with the Gravis?
2.
I know someone who is having problems getting speech to work in Under a 
Killing Moon. Ideas anyone?


                        ]-[aydn

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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 17:25:00 +0100 (MET)
From: Espen Wang Andreassen <espeand@ifi.uio.no>
Subject: Win95 & GUS info - thank you!

I just want to thank those who explained the Win95<->GUS topic to me.
(And thereby gave me plenty of good reasons why I shouln't buy Win95... :+))


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- jeps -  Student at University of Oslo, Norway -
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Espen Wang Andreassen    -     espeand@ifi.uio.no

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