GUS Daily Digest            Wed, 27 Oct 93  0:07 MDT     Volume 7: Issue  26  

Today's Topics:
							 add to list
						  DOS Patch Loading
					   Downloading Files, etc.
					  Grading software companies
				   GUS Daily Digest V7 #25 (2 msgs)
		  GUS DRAM failure in install diagnostics a problem?
						gus petition (2 msgs)
				 List of games using the AIL. [RIP?]
						   Master of Orion
						  Misc. Gus Queries
						 SC2_DEMO is too dim
			   SCSI-adaptec conflict with ultrasound???
						  small support idea
						Status of GUS mailings
							X-Wing and GUS

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 09:04:53 -0400
From: rnavarro@mgh.com
Subject: add to list

could you please add me to you list.

rnavarro@pubasd.mgh.com

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 17:04:14 EDT
From: Thayer York <YT50%LAFAYACS.bitnet@lafibm.lafayette.edu>
Subject: DOS Patch Loading

Is there any way to load MIDI patches into GUS's RAM for use by a
DOS-based sequencer (such as Voyetra's Sequencer Plus Gold)?  (I
apologize of this I missed this in previous digests, I've fallen behind
in reading.)

TYTYALC

"`Anyway, didn't we bury him?' said the Lecturer in Recent Runes.
 `And now we dig him up again,' said the Archchancellor.  `It's
  probably a miracle of existence.'
 `Like pickles,' said the Bursar, happily."
	_Reaper Man_ by Terry Pratchett

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 11:18:31 EDT
From: ak016@freenet.carleton.ca (John Collins)
Subject: Downloading Files, etc.

This question is only peripherally GUS-related, in that the files
I'm after are for the GUS.  I'm rather new at this Internetting
business, and am restricted a bit by the manner of access (i.e.,
my local Freenet in Ottawa).  The restriction is that they don't
allow FTP-ing or Telnetting (only e-mail).  Now, I can get GUS 
files from Gravis in B.C., but even after 11:00pm it still costs
me $.21/minute at 2400 baud; while my financial woes probably
won't cause anyone out there to lose sleep, "I have always relied
on the kindness of strangers".

So, to make a long story short (too late?), I am tapping the
collective wisdom of the GUS group to find out if there is any
alternative for me out there if I want to get the latest patches,
demos, and all the other wonderful goodies I read about daily in
this most august of journals.  I understand (though only
vaguely) that there is some way to convert binary files to text,
then get them in the mail, but again I think I need the 
assistance of a samaritan or two.

I await your replies with bated breath (that's "bated", not 
"baited" - I spat out the worms).

John Collins

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 12:05:09 -0600 (MDT)
From: BRUECKD@yvax.byu.edu
Subject: Grading software companies

Sorry, I can't quote yesterday's newsletter, but this is concerning the person
who was giving all the companies different grades based on their support.

 I think your list is great, but it does't apply to everyone. We all know how
picky SBOS & the GUS can be when trying to get them to work with a game, so
when you raunch on Apogee for their lack of support despite what they said,
I'll have to disagree with you. I have a 256k GUS and the software that came
with the 2.06 version of the disks. I have had no problems getting the GUS to
output music/sound fx with any of their games, including Halloween Harry. I
didn't even have to fiddle around with them or anything.

Dave Brueck
brueckd@yvax.byu.edu

P.S. - The same applies to the SF2 game that everybody is trying to get to
work. I get music & sound, no problem whatsoever.

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 08:58:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Phat H Tran <ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V7 #25

> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 09:57:56 EDT
> From: "Frank Pikelner" <frank@cs.yorku.ca>
> Subject: GUS, new Mitsumi drive and audio connection
>
>[asking about CD audio connector on GUS]

The pins are R G G L, looking at the front of the card with the edge
connector down.
 
> Date: 25 Oct 93 22:27:22 EDT
> From: "Joakim Erdfelt" <JOAKIM.ERDFELT@OFFICE.WANG.COM>
> Subject: GUS / Windows / MS Arcade
> 
> ok fellow GUSers out there. Got a new question to ask ya.
> (is it GUSer or GUSite? <g>)
> 
> I just got MS arcade for windows and i'm *REALLY* impressed with their
> true-to-the-original game sounds.  The Asteroids (thump, thump) is really
> wild on the GUS.  But it seems that after using ANY of the 5 game for more
> than 5 minutes causes a lock-up.  Anyone else had this problem?
> is it just me. or is it the GUS drivers doing something funky?

Edit remix=1 to remix=2 in wavemix.ini.  (Thanks to Mark Pfeiffer for this
fix.)

>   ALSO.. Anyone have luck getting the GUS to work with Syndicate?
>          tried SBOS v2.06 up to v2.10 (it's version 10 whatever i just
>          can't remember exactly) has a "patch" been released to fix the
>          oversight by Bullfrog to have GUS support? <g>

No patch for GUS support, but to get the game to work with SBOS, your
GUS must be on port 220h, and you should start the game by running
main.exe with the /iirq<SB IRQ> switch.  There's a bug in the game that
keeps it from parsing the /iio<address> switch properly, so even the real
SB has to resided on address 220h for it to be used.

> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 11:08:30 +0100
> From: v92jl@november (johan linder)
> Subject: OPTi question
> 
> I am planning to buy a GUS for my pc. My computer has a mothercard called
> OPTi-391 wb ver 1.0  The DMA chip has the number F82C206 which could be faulty according to gus0013.zip file. However my DMA chip has not the name OPTi on the frontside ( several of the other chips has ). My DMA chip looks like this.
> 
>            -----------------
>              CHIPS
>              F282c206   H    
>              6058-F 
>              9047 EANE
>              JAPAN
>            ------------------  

Since your DMA controller isn't by OPTi, it should be fine.

> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 22:44:15 +0200
> From: tjakobs@mswe.dnet.ms.philips.nl (THEO_JAKOBS TEL.62667)
> Subject: Problems with ultramid
> 
> hi again..
> 
> I have received some messages on the Ultramid problem i have, you all say
> that i should get the new disks.
> BUT WHAT DOES THE NEW DISKS HAVE TO DO WITH THE DARN 'UltraSoundCard not lo-
> cated'...

First of all, you'll absolutely need the new disks for Ultramid to work 
anyway since it requires the patches on those disks.  There are over 100
more patches on the new disks than on the 1.2x disks, so you're missing
quite a lot.  Without the new patches, you have no hope of getting Ultramid
working properly unless you create your own ultramid.ini.  So download those
disks and we'll deal with this "ultrasound card not found" problem later.
Chances are the installation of the new disks will cure the problem by 
setting up the appropriate environment strings.

Phat.

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Date: 26 Oct 93 07:40:00 PST
From: EBULALACAO@CSUPomona.Edu
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V7 #25

I found something very interesting on the GUS DRAM...in the manual, it
says to use 100ns 256k x 4 (44256) dram chips, yet my GUS came with 70ns
dram when I purchased it.  Luckily, when I upgraded to 1 meg, the dealer
only had 70ns drams on stock...I was requesting 100ns...I just found out
that my GUS had originally 70ns chips when I installed the chips I purchased.

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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 01:36:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Russell Webb <rwebb@panix.com>
Subject: GUS DRAM failure in install diagnostics a problem?

I've bought a GUS recently and am pleased by the sound quality--worlds 
better than my old SB Pro FM music.  On installation, I got 
'DRAM failure' in the diagnostic program.  Is this a true problem,
or some sort of software glitch?

I returned the card, but got a second.  It has the same symptoms.
Is this normal?  All music/sound sounds fine except for the Terminator
Rampage demo, which goes totally garbled and static-filled after the 
intro music.
-- 
-Russell Webb
rwebb@panix.com

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 08:15:37 -0500
From: montgome@afoms.brooks.af.mil (Capt Noel D. Montgomery)
Subject: gus petition

--------- The following is a converted OFFICEPOWER mail message ----------

																			  
	   To:  gus-general@dsd.es.com                                            
																			  
	   CC:                                                                    
																			  
																			  
  Subject:  gus petition                     New [*]       Codes:  [        ] 
  Message:  This could be a good idea, but I have one suggestion:  we should  
			break the letter into EXECUTIVE SUMMARY and TECHNICAL SUMMARY.    
			Keep the Exec. Summary to 1/2 page.  I don't know if VPs will     
			want to wade through a long letter.  The content looks good, tho. 
			Noel Montgomery                                                   
			P.S. I apologize for our moronic mail server, Nothin I can do.    
																			  
 Priority:  2                Delivery Acknowledge [ ]    View Acknowledge [ ] 
																			  
	 From:  Capt Noel D. Montgom   By:  montgome@afoms         Attachment [*] 

 ------------------------------- ATTACHMENT ------------------------------




THE COVER LETTER:
-----------------

The following is the cover letter that I propose we send.  Feel free
to comment on it and suggest things.  Note that it's pretty long right
now, so I don't want to keep adding things that aren't really
specific.  Think before suggesting something randomly.


Dear [xxx],

etc, etc, etc

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 16:37:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: roberts@brahms.amd.com (Dave Roberts)
Subject: GUS Petition

Keep up those responses to the GUS Game Support Petition.  Register
your friends, if they don't have net access themselves.  I got a bunch
yesterday and need more and more.  If you have no idea what I'm
talking about, you probably missed the posting or it was mangled.  If
so, write to me and I'll send you a copy.

Additionally, please send me *game company addresses*.  I got only one
yesterday.  I don't have games from all these guys (not even most of
them), so I can't just go home and look on the boxes.  Please take a
shot at it.

Dave Roberts
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
I/O and Network Products Division
david.roberts@amd.com

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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 09:36:42 +1000 (EST)
From: int757n@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr. Thaddaeus)
Subject: List of games using the AIL. [RIP?]

	I have not received any updates on games that works with the 
GUS AIL since the last time I posted the list (04/08/93) so if no one
is interested, shall we just let the list die?

-- --------------------------------------------------------------------
		 LOST : A short and witty signature. If found, please return to
				int757n@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au, Thaddaeus Kong.

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 08:19:49 EDT
From: michael@canada.lsil.com (Michael Smith)
Subject: Master of Orion

I pulled that patch of of wuarchive to add AIL support to Master of Orion
(patch was called: masterof.arj).

I got the music working fine, but there isn't any digital effects support.
In the docs for the patch it indicates that the PC Speaker can be used for
digital effects (speech?), but I can't figure out how to get this working.
Has anyone else produced any better results?

Thanks,
	 Michael Smith - Chipset Design Engineer

Phone: (416) 620-7400         michael@canada.lsil.com
Fax:   (416) 620-5005

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 16:11:44 CDT
From: Jon Holt <holt@holt.camax.com>
Subject: Misc. Gus Queries

> From: "Frank Pikelner" <frank@cs.yorku.ca>
> Subject: GUS, new Mitsumi drive and audio connection
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I just purchased a Mitsumi FX001 CDROM drive. The drive comes with a 4-wire
> cable for the audio. The wires are as follows:
> 
>        -----> left
>        -----> ground
>        -----> ground
>        -----> right
> 
>  Although the connector is too small to fit the GUS connection on the card
>  (I would guess the 4 pins to be for the audio out of the CDROM drive) I could
>  come up with some thing. WHat are the pin outs of the 4 pin connector on the
>  Gravis card? ALso I've seen mentioned that Gravis has some Mitsumi interface,\
>  what is it for $50?

Straight from the FAQ:
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25] What are the pinouts for the CD Audio IN on the GUS?

Written by: <grtorlba@seattleu.edu>

About two days ago I posted requested some info on the 4-pin
CD audio pin on the GUS.  I never got a reply but I got the info by
downloading volume 1 of the digest.

	The pin info was:

	left ground ground right

	I've tried this pin assignment and it seems to work.  The
	articles in the digest pointed out that they weren't certain of the
	left-right assignment but the two pins in the middle are definitely
	the grounds.
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Looks like your Mitsumi matches the GUS!  (Which is odd, since mine didn't,
but mine wasn't a FX001 either.)  I also discovered that even though the
connector is too small, it's really 'close enough' to make contact if you
jam it on hard.  Mind you, I don't take any responsibility for broken pins
if you go this route!

I'll punt on the Mitsumi interface question, since I don't know.  Is it
available yet?


> From: Phat H Tran <ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>
> Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V7 #24
> 
> > From: E33GLASSER@sask.usask.ca
> > Subject: new uploads
> > 
> > I also uploaded a 3D sound demo from Europe called GUS3DEMO.ZIP.
> >
> 
> This new 3D demo is better than the others that I've tried.  Although
> I still have trouble locating the sources, running the demo in 
> non-interactive mode using headphones did give me the impression of
> being swamped by an assortment of gear, and a bird.

This is the same reaction that I had.  I tried to guess what kind of path each
sound source was following (without peeking), but scored less than 50%.  
Seperating left and right was easy, but up and down weren't very 
distinguishable.  It looks like you can replace the patches used in this
demo with any other 3d patches, too... time to play some more!


> From: roberts@brahms.amd.com (Dave Roberts)
> Subject: GUS Support Petition [very long...]
> 
> I am a very satisfied GUS owner who has been reading the digest since
> ...

Power to the people!  Seriously, this is a great idea, (and paper is heavier 
than electrons!)  Count on my support for this campaign.

> From: surgeon@esds.vss.fsi.com
> Subject: Terminator Rampage Setup (How can I make it work)
> 
> How do I get Terminator Rampage to run ?
> 
> I tried several configurations of EMM386, but could never get enough EMS (it 
> wants 2 Meg) and conventional (it wants 585 K) at the same time.
> 
> I then tried the boot floppy route. I got the game to run after putting the GUS
> initalization and environment variables in the floppy autoexec.bat.
> 
> It got to the opening screen, music played, and then it locked up (reset button
> time!).
> 
> Any suggestions? Is anyone else having this much trouble?

I don't know, no, and YES!  I'm having the same problems with this demo.  
Ultramid sucks up way too much room to allow 585k conventional memory
left over.  I imagine with 386MAX, or QEMM this may be possible, but not
with any combination of the vanilla DOS 5.0 tools I could figure out!  There
doesn't seem to be room for doing a 'lh ultramid'.

Does anybody have a magic recipe for this?  (Other than Mega-em, or SBOS?)

BTW, should I be worried that EMM386 generates the error message:

EMM386: DMA Mode not available

When ultramid attempts to load?  What's up with that?!

It's an interesting game... Sounds pretty gross through SBOS, though.  Seems
like a real Wolf-3d/DOOM derivative, but the scenery is well done.


> From: Gavin <SCARMAN@hfrd.dsto.gov.au>
> Subject: Why not Ultramid?
> 
> Many of you have bitched about Ultramid saying it's not "native mode" and it 
> takes up too much memory, but... what if the patches selected by ultramid were 
> specifically chosen for the GUS and the game only required say 520k of memory, 
> any real gripes? Email me and I'll post a summary.

See my above bitching session.  Granted, it looks like my problems are mainly
with the 585K memory requirement, but it's still a pain to require a TSR for
sound!

Ok folks, I've got a couple new questions:

1.  Where's the ZORKDEMO these days?  I couldn't find it on wuarchive.
	Is this worth trying, and does the GF166.COM program for playing
	digital samples come with it (if not, where is it?)

	Anybody have the CD-based version of this yet?  How is it?

2.  A friend of mine is really fond of my Gravis MIDI-box.  In fact, I
	probably won't get mine back until I can tell him how to order one.
	Could somebody post the U.S. ordering address AND PHONE NUMBER for
	ordering direct from Gravis?  If anybody has seen this offered by
	a mail order house, gimme the name/phone # of it, please!

	This info should really be in the FAQ!
-- 
:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:
   Jon Holt (holt@camax.com)     -   CAMAX Systems, Inc.        612/854-5300
   Have coffee, will travel.     -   Minneapolis, MN, USA   Fax 612/854-6644
Disney, of course, has the best casting.  If he doesn't like an actor,
he just tears him up.
-Alfred Hitchcock

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 15:14:06 -0500 (CDT)
From: Eric Dittman <DITTMAN@skitzo.dseg.ti.com>
Subject: SC2_DEMO is too dim

I installed the Star Control 2 demo that came with my
Ultrasound.  Unfortunately, I can't play because the
display is too dim to read unless I turn the brightness
and contrast all the way up, turn out all the lights,
and get real close to the screen.  I can see the intro
screens just fine, but once the actual game starts, the
display dims.

I'm using a generic ET4000 VGA card.
--
Eric Dittman                  Texas Instruments - Component Test Facility
dittman@skitzo.dseg.ti.com    (214) 480-7313
Disclaimer:  Not even my opinions.  I found them by the side of the road.

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 14:22:10 +0200
From: tjakobs@mswe.dnet.ms.philips.nl (THEO_JAKOBS TEL.62667)
Subject: SCSI-adaptec conflict with ultrasound???

hi...

I read in the last digest that the GRAVIS and a Adaptec SCSI wouldn't work well.
Is this true, and what kind of conflict would it be, because i have a Adaptec
scsi and some trouble with ultrasound, but i don't think the problems i have
are related to the adaptec/ultrasound...

By the way, in my last message i made a little mistake (the message about the
ultramid problem).. I typed:
  ok,ok i should curse the gravis ultrasound..
 this should be
  ok,ok i shouldN'T curse the gravis ultrasound.. 

i wanted to correct this....

CU

Andre Jakobs
  MicroBrain Technologies Inc.
	The Netherlands

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 23:09:39 EDT
From: dmcintyr@muselab.ac.runet.edu
Subject: small support idea

Along the lines of getting GUS support in games, one small thing I've been
doing which others might want to do is any games I had lying around with
registration cards never sent have now been sent with an added
[X] Gravis UltraSound  checkbox in the Soundcard section.
--Michael--

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 10:50:23 CDT
From: surgeon@esds.vss.fsi.com
Subject: Status of GUS mailings

I have found the October 13th version of the Gravis registered user database in
the ultrasound submit directory on epas.

My name appears and shows BONUS with a mailing date of Sept. 22.

What does BONUS mean? Has anyone else received anything from this mailing?
(I have not yet received anything.)

 -----------------------------------------------------------------
   Mike Surgeon
   FlightSafety International, Visual Simulation Systems
   2590 North Highway 94       
   Saint Charles, MO 63301-0037       E-Mail: surgeon@vss.fsi.com
 -----------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 10:56:18 +0100 (MET)
From: Christian Malmin <malmin@lise.unit.no>
Subject: X-Wing and GUS



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