GUS Daily Digest            Fri, 14 Oct 94  9:37 PST     Volume 15: Issue   7 

Today's Topics:
							  486 dx2 80
						 Alone in the Dark II
						   Bad MIDI mapping
					CDROM audio connections, MEGEM
							 DOOM---again
							FAQ Maintainer
								 GF2
					   Gravis collection CD-Rom
						 GUS & Synd. cd-rom?
						GUS ADPCM for Windows?
						GUS Daily Digest V0 #2
					   GUS Daily Digest V15 #3
					   GUS Daily Digest V15 #4
				   GUS Daily Digest V15 #5 (2 msgs)
				   GUS Daily Digest V15 #6 (3 msgs)
								HELP!
					 In favor of the mailing list
						Microcosm and the GUS.
							Mike problems
				  Mitsumi connection to Gus (2 msgs)
					  MONO mike, Chris, MONO !!!
					   MONO Recording on MAX...
						 On Being a "Digest"
					Origin's (lac of) GUS support
					 OS/2 drivers and other stuff
				  Problems recording with a GUS MAX
						  Rise of the Robots
					Sampling, Samples and UT 1.61?
							   Subject:

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 14:39:34 -0500 (CDT)
From: seligman@netcom.com (Scott Seligman)
Subject: Re: 486 dx2 80

> I ordered a 486dx 2 66 and will receive it by next week.
> I saw amd started producing 486 dx2 80, and was wondering whether it
> was any hazardous for the intel 486 dx2 66 to run at 80 MHz by changing
> the mother board setup. 
> A friend of mine told me the chip was protected and would stop working
> before to get damaged. This would mean i can try safely, provided that
> i put a large fan on the cpu. (the case has 2 fans, the 486 has one)
> 

I've personally done this with a couple of machines with out any 
problems (Just make sure there is a fan *on* the cpu itself).  And your 
friend is right, if you try to push an Intel cpu too far it will simply 
not function (Doesn't damage it as far as I can tell)

> However, i prefer to ask many people before to fuck the motherboard.
> I saw in PC Mag (US edition) from sept 30th a intel pentium 90 which burnt
> when ran at 108 MHz. It also damaged the motherboard....
> 
Doesn't surprise me, the pentium cpu's are pretty close to burning up 
when they're running at the recommended speed, much less twenty percent 
above the proper speed.

-- 
 | `seligman@netcom.com`  |            alt. = Anarchists,         |
 | `seligmn@metronet.com` |         Lunatics, and Terrorists      |

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 12:04:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." <pchienjr@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Alone in the Dark II

To the AITDII game player(s):
You can get (FM) music out of Alone in the Dark II, but not out of going 
through the install program of the game.  First, run SBOS, and then run 
the install.  You will be able to select for sound effects.  Then exit 
install.  Now whenever you want to run the game, load sbos, and then type 
in adlibm (in your AITDII directory) then run the game, and you will have 
FM music as well. 

Peter

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 11:54:49 -0600 (MDT)
From: rkornilo@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Ryan Korniloff)
Subject: Bad MIDI mapping

Maybe it's just me (I don't THINK it is) but it seems to me that Gravis 
STILL has not been able to get the MIDI map correct on either General 
MIDI OR Sound Canvas. Another example I just ran into is with Day Of The 
Tentacle. If you select Gen. MIDI instead of Sound Canvas some 
instruments are different than with the Sound Canvas setting. The Sound 
Canvas setting sounds really weird to the point of being annoying. Can 
anyone give me any insite into this??? 

What is the latest update date or the GUS (software)?


		   -- Ryan Korniloff
		   -- rkornilo@nyx10.cs.du.edu

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 94 14:12:39 EDT
From: "Burns Fisher, VMS Engineering  13-Oct-1994 1412" <fisher@skylab.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Re: CDROM audio connections, MEGEM

>From: wildermu@cod.nosc.mil (Jim Wildermuth)
>Subject: CDROM audio connections, MEGEM
>
>Hi,
>       I just upgraded my system with a CDROM.  I would like to make the 
>audio conections go to the GUS but the manual does not list those 
>connections.

I don't remember the pin order, but someone probably will.  However, there 
are two grounds plus left and right.  With a pair of earphones on, you can 
easily identify which is which by touching them with your finger.  You'll 
hear nothing when you touch the grounds.  You'll hear a hum in the left phone 
when you touch left, etc.

Burns

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 94 20:58:57 CDT
From: cardona@rwasic23.aud.alcatel.com (Gabe Cardona)
Subject: DOOM---again

First I'd like to say I'm glad the digest is back; it is a very useful
forum for questions and general information about our sound card....

Now, has anyone else experienced difficulty with the registered version
of DOOM??? (V 1.2) The music sounds fine, but the sound effects don't work
consistently.  It seems that sometimes everything works fine and it will
work fine for en entire session, but later (in another session) the sound
effects get cut-off or don't sound at all.  I have to re-boot several
times to get them to work again; sometimes I have to let the machine
sit for a while before they will work properly.

Now, I upgraded to v 1.666, and the sound effects are EVEN WORSE than before.
Before, they would at least work some of the time, now they just sound terrible
all the time.  It sounds like they are clipped or distorted heavily. I've tried
different interrupts, DMA's, etc. all to no avail... Any suggestions???  I called
Id technical support and the guy told me I needed NEW DRIVERS for my GUS.  When I 
told him that the GUS only needs drivers for windows, he told me to RE-INSTALL DOOM.
I think he's as clueless as the people who re-wrote the sound code... BTW, I've
tried the -GUSx options, to no avail, tonight I'm going to try slowing down the
ISA bus.....

BTW, everything still works flawlessly with the shareware version 1.2....

My machine is a 25 MHz 386 with DOS 5 and 4M ram...


Thanks,


Gabe Cardona

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 22:13:58 +0100
From: Vince <vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: FAQ Maintainer

On Wednesday October 12, 1994 - Paul hit the keyboard and said:

Date: Wed, 12 Oct 94 13:15:42 BST
From: csfb1!csfp.co.uk!pcunnell@uunet.uu.net (Paul Cunnell)
Subject: FAQ Maintainer ?

Does anyone know who is supposed to be maintaining the
GUS FAQ nowadays ? The last version I have was done by
Matthew Bernold (MEB117@psuvm.psu.edu), but I am informed
that he is no longer reachable there.

Paul.

--
Paul Cunnell CSFB FOS (csfb1!csfp.co.uk!pcunnell@uunet.uu.net) +44 71 516 
2946

Hi Paul,

	According to Dave Debry, it's meb117@psuvm.psu.edu
Maybe you need to use lower case for the username in the e-mail address.
Hope this helps.  Happy GUSing!


							  Cheers,
					   Vince
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Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology 

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 17:51:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: "MR George M." <gmontem@mercury.sfsu.edu>
Subject: Re: GF2

Greetings fellow GUSians /GU*SHEE*ANS/,

First of all, I would like to express my gratitude to the one man (or 
men) who helped bring back the GUS Daily Digest.  Thank you, thank you.

Now back to the subject:

If the rumoured GF2 chip will be coming shortly, whether this year or 
next year, will the new GF2 chip:

  * Be available as an upgrade?  In other words, can we trade in our
	old GUS cards along with some extra fees for the new GF2 model?
  * Will it feature a special effects chip for Reverb and Chorus effects?
  * How much memory can the GF2 handle?
  * Will it have a better mixing rate at 32 voices (44.1kHz hopefull)?
  * Will it kick AWE-32 butt?  (I think so 8-))
  * Will it have a wierd fancy name attached to the old name?
	(like UltraSound FX, UltraSound Studio, UltraSound Blaster (yuck!),
	 UltraSound Millenium, etc... etc...)

<EOT>

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 16:39:06 GMT
From: Mike Geileskey <gei0089l@uel.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Gravis collection CD-Rom

Another Gravis CD collection can be found on the November 1994 
CoverDisk version of PC-Zone (a UK publication). This contains the 
latest Gravis upgrade, as well as many software upgrades and Assembly 
'94 music demos. I'm sure overseas users can get their hands on 
it......

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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 08:36:08 EDT
From: alain@dgbt.doc.ca (Alain Bergeron)
Subject: GUS & Synd. cd-rom?

Hi,

	Could anyone confirm that the GUS will work fine, with Syndicate CD-ROM 
version. I've seen patches for this game, but I'd like confirmation that they 
work with both versions (3.5" and CD).

Thanks
Alain
alain@dgbt.doc.ca 

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 16:17:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Chern Fang <chern@zeus.towson.edu>
Subject: GUS ADPCM for Windows?

Only USS uses gus's hardware ADPCM compression/decompression.  Is any 
software out there for GUS ADPCM for Windows?
Eric

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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 14:41:35 +0200
From: Yossi Oren <LIOREN1@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V0 #2

YAHOOO!  The Digest is back.
I'll sorta miss all of the fun chaps on csipsa - Rich Heimblitz, Vlad Edberg,
you know, but it's fun to be among friends again!  And back goes the
"incredible Internet support" point for us!
OK, I want to break the Doom rumours.  The only differences I was able to
perceive in Doom 1.666 (I went up from 1.2), sound-wise, were the powerup
effect (*WHHNG* or something), an optimized DMXGUS.INI which saved my poor
fingers from typing -file gus1m.wad everytime I ran Doom, and less bass for
the effects (I have that absolute hearing thingee, so don't you go flamin' me
for that!).  Our local Doom buff (who plays on my PC since I have the GUS)
says Doom is much faster.  Basically the first effect is slow as hell (wocka
wocka) and from then on there's no slowdown.  When you're using an SB and
there's a party around you the frame rate goes WAYDOWN, but it just keeps
going and going on my PC.  Maybe I'm lucky, dunno, but lay off with id.
Yossi.

|IN REAL LIFE:                                      |IN PHYSICAL REALITY:
|lioren1@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il                    |Yossi Oren of "Ron"
|Gravis Ultrasound advocate, (a.k.a. "GUS idiot"),  |Alumim, D. N. Negev,
|Windows user and Doomer.                           |ISRAEL.

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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 15:03:28 +0200
From: Yossi Oren <LIOREN1@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #3

>I just installed the 3.53 GUS disk set, and everything works fine, except that
>when I try to run SBOS, I get this error:
>
>Invalid (C;
>
>Error on load of patch library (C:

That's an AG slipup.  The file you were talking about is dated 1/1/80.  You
need to manually restore it (it's an install option), and then you're home
free.
Yossi.

|IN REAL LIFE:                                      |IN PHYSICAL REALITY:
|lioren1@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il                    |Yossi Oren of "Ron"
|Gravis Ultrasound advocate, (a.k.a. "GUS idiot"),  |Alumim, D. N. Negev,
|Windows user and Doomer.                           |ISRAEL.

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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 15:07:21 +0200
From: Yossi Oren <LIOREN1@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #4

>When I play DOOM 2 (v.1666) all the sound effects are not so much 'scratchy'
>but rather they tend to echo and fade away. Like every single effect played
>just repeats away until it fades.
This is a clear-cut case of IRQ conflict.  The IRQ trigger Doom has set up on
the GUSRAM to make the GUS tell it to stop playing (whew!) isn't getting home
for some reason.  Move to a different IRQ.
Yossi.
PS Again - Doom has set up an IRQ on the GUS, and it isn't working.

|IN REAL LIFE:                                      |IN PHYSICAL REALITY:
|lioren1@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il                    |Yossi Oren of "Ron"
|Gravis Ultrasound advocate, (a.k.a. "GUS idiot"),  |Alumim, D. N. Negev,
|Windows user and Doomer.                           |ISRAEL.

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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 15:21:06 +0200
From: Yossi Oren <LIOREN1@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #5

>My question is two-fold.  Is there a way to disable the "General MIDI"
>portion of Ultramid, and do the 32 bit AIL drivers for GUS allow me to
>still use my SCC-1?
Sure!  Just use the GUS library (GF1DIGI.DLL?) for digital effects, and the
General MIDI library (GENMIDI.DLL?) for MIDI. It's the old copy-around-the-
files stunt we're used to from older AIl ames.
Yossi.

|IN REAL LIFE:                                      |IN PHYSICAL REALITY:
|lioren1@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il                    |Yossi Oren of "Ron"
|Gravis Ultrasound advocate, (a.k.a. "GUS idiot"),  |Alumim, D. N. Negev,
|Windows user and Doomer.                           |ISRAEL.

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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 15:28:32 +0200
From: Yossi Oren <LIOREN1@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #5

>To start it off: there's some kind of trick to getting uninterrupted sound
>in windows .avi video sound but i don't know it.
ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/ (hmmm) developr(??) /drg/multimedia/vfw11a.zip.
Now you know.
Yossi.

|IN REAL LIFE:                                      |IN PHYSICAL REALITY:
|lioren1@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il                    |Yossi Oren of "Ron"
|Gravis Ultrasound advocate, (a.k.a. "GUS idiot"),  |Alumim, D. N. Negev,
|Windows user and Doomer.                           |ISRAEL.

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 14:41:10 -0500
From: Mike Surgeon <surgeon@vss.fsi.com>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #6

> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 16:38:22 -0700 (PDT)
> From: David John Walton <walton@cs.ucdavis.edu>
> Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #5
> 
> > (10)  Make sure you use the latest Windows Drivers (gus0042.zip) if you are
> > having problems with Norton Desktop for Windows or Workgroup for Windows.
> 
> Does this fix HP Dashboard, too?  I heard it has similar problems.
> 
> Dave
> 

Yes, it does (an HP Dashboard user).

Mike Surgeon

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 18:46:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: Phat Hong Tran <ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #6

On Thu, 13 Oct -1, GUS Server wrote:

> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 94 12:57:03 PDT
> From: wildermu@cod.nosc.mil (Jim Wildermuth)
> Subject: CDROM audio connections, MEGEM
> 
> Hi,
>         I just upgraded my system with a CDROM.  I would like to make the 
> audio conections go to the GUS but the manual does not list those connections.

As I recall (it's been a while since I had to think about the CD connectors),
the GUS' CD header pins are R G G L if you hold it with component side
to you and edge connector down.  (R = right, L = left, G = ground).

> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 10:17:07 +0800 (GMT+0800)
> From: FLAT^^TOP <kohkhang@iscs.nus.sg>
> Subject: GUS CDrom !
> 
> hey !
> 
> this GUs CDrom thing in PC Zone really has me thinking...

[brainstorm about a GUS software CD-ROM deleted]

There does seem to be a demand for such a thing.  Right now, the software
on the UltraSound Experience CD-ROM was put on as an after thought ("Hey,
we have 200 MB free after all that audio....") and the CD-ROM itself is
being sold almost at cost (I think--haven't been in the loop for a while
now).  

> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 19:23:30 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Chris Bongaarts <bong0004@gold.tc.umn.edu>
> Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #4
> 
> In the GUS Daily Digest you write:
> >Second, there is a CODEC chip on the GUSMAX. Hardly any programs can utilize
> >it, even though the GUSMAX installed a driver for it under Windows (check the
> >Control Panel!).
> >
> 
> The CODEC is a DAC, not a DSP.  It makes the digital sound; it doesn't
> do effects of any kind.

It's a bit more than that.  It's a DAC/ADC with a few compression algorithms.

> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 09:27:39 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Harry C Pulley <hpulley@uoguelph.ca>
> Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #5
> 
> In regards to a few topics in v15 #5:
> 
> Smooth animation in Windows: I have found that reducing the playback 
> buffer to 2048 (or even 1024 or 512) helps greatly.  I can now run 

Adjusting the DMA buffer sizes is always a good thing to try if you're
not getting reasonable performance from an app.  You can change DMA
buffer sizes without rebooting Windows if you don't "fix" them.

Generally, for single-track recording or playback, large buffer sizes
are desireable, but for audio that is playing with animation or software
mixing, small buffer sizes might be needed.

> Next Doom II: sounds fine to me.  I have only had my GUS MAX for a while 
> but Doom I sounds as good as Doom II to me.  I like Doom I's musical 
> score better but it is not a question of quality.  There has been a level 

It's not the music, but the sound effects that are poorer in the newer
DOOMs.  DOOM 1.2 let the GUS do the mixing of the audio channels, while
the later versions mix the channels in software.

> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 09:31 -0400
> From: DANTONIO@PROCESS.COM (Momentary Language, Sexual Situations)
> Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #5
> 
> >Date: Tue, 11 Oct 94 12:44:50 EDT
> >From: AdvGravis@aol.com
> >Subject: Re: #3(3) GUS Daily Digest V1...
> >
> >Hi people!  Glad to see the digest is back up and running.   I have a few
> >comments regarding the digests over the weekend:
> 
> >(1)  I know the OS/2 drivers have been coming for a looooooooong time, but I
> >can honestly say they will be released sometime this year.  I do not have the
> >stats as to what they will offer (since I know nothing about OS/2), but the
> >programming team is making great progress.  Hope to have more definate dates
> >in the next little while.
> 
> Sure, I believe this. Really, I do. Oh and would you like to see my collection
> of other mail from Gravis saying the OS/2 drivers will be available Real Soon
> Now? I bought my card with the original Electronic Arts promo and was promised
> OS/2 drivers within 3 months. Sure has been a loooooooooong 3 months. Unless these mythical drivers offer something beyond Robert Manley's, I'd sure like to
> see some explaination of why Gravis hasn't simply licensed his. BTW, you've
> missed the window to get these drivers into OS/2 3.0. So, do we at least get to
> beta-test these drivers?

FWIW, Gravis had not been working on OS/2 until the past summer.  (They
were planning to for a long time, but other projects overrode OS/2 in
priority.)  But over the summer, Forte had a preliminary version of the 
OS/2 driver already working, and Gravis also put one of their own 
programmers on the OS/2 project.  (The programmer Gravis placed on OS/2
is an unabashed OS/2 fanatic, and very competent.)

This is not to say that the public will see an OS/2 driver any time soon.

> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 06:05:00 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Antonio Guia <guia@cc.UManitoba.CA>
> Subject: midi in/out
>
[...] 
> recording.  As for whether the gus can input to any channel other than 1,
> i'm not sure since i only have 1 keyboard and even if i had two, i
> couldn't play more than one at a time anyways.  I never tried anything
> more than channel 1, i'd just record channel 1 then rename it before
> overlaying the next track.

I believe the GUS MIDI port will take input from any MIDI channel.  However,
it's the sender that decides which MIDI channel to send events on.  Most
keyboards seem to default to sending messages on channel 1.

> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 15:55:03 -0400
> From: gord@smos.bc.ca (Gord Wait S-MOS Systems Vancouver Design Center)
> Subject: Midi Windows probs
> 
> Does anyone else notice dropped notes in windows while playing midi
> files?  I would like to know if I need to fix my setup or wait for Gravis
> to fix the windows drivers once again.

It's a driver problem, as before.  Gravis will eventually move over to
a new MIDI kernel for their Windows driver, hopefully leaving the dropped
notes problem behind (it's not a hardware problem). 

> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 10:59:49 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Sky Woo <swoo@rahul.net>
> Subject: MOD4WIN and MODUS
>
[...] 
>   What I'm really contributing to the digest is my opinion on 
> Windows MOD players.  I personally think MOD4WIN is a complete waste of a 
> GUS.  It does not use the GUS' onboard memory or processor to mix the 
> music.  In addition, MOD4WIN is a CPU hog compared to MODUS.  Taking some 

I use MODUS exclusively to play MODs in Windows.  All the other software-
mixing players are just too cpu-intensive for my liking.

Of course, with MODUS being as imperfect as it is, I try to avoid playing 
MODs in Windows as much as possible.

> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 94 23:01:42  GMT
> From: aswani@sound.demon.co.uk (Robert Aswani)
> Subject: The UltraSound Experience
> 
> Have you all heard this? It's amazing!

I'm glad to hear you liked it.  I've had my nose up against the demo
for a period of about three months and can no longer keep a healthy
perspective where it's concerned.  (i.e. it drives me bonkers now :)
There are many things I would do differently...

> The whole presentation has been made brilliantly and professionally. It was
> authored by HSC Interactive. Phat H Tran had a big part in making it.

Correction.  HSC Interactive was the authoring software we used, but the 
demo itself was done completely in-house except for some borrowed (with
permission) pieces of music.  (The lens-flare of which Dave and I are so
proud was done in Adobe Photo Shop. :)

> Anybody who ever doubted the UltraSound's capabilities, and have held
> themselves back from buying one, will not doubt it anymore after they have
> seen and heard this presentation. They will no longer restrain themselves
> from buying an UltraSound.
 
I wonder, though, if the demo is as effective at converting the neophyte
as it appears to be at preaching to the converted.

BTW, thanks to Vince for starting up the digest again, and thanks to
Thomas Wong for maintaining Epas.  Things appeared a little dead in 
GUS land for a while.

BTW2, I can't answer email or respond to news as much as I used to due to
school work.  I recently switched into the math faculty at the University
of Waterloo (ya know... WATCOM, WATFOR77, Maple V, etc. :) and am finding
my schedule quite packed.

Phat. 

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 23:58:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Damian Frank <damianf@diamond.res.wpi.edu>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V15 #6

> I saw it mentioned that Origin now natively supports the GUS.  This is 
> great news, but is it available in any of the Origin stuff that currently 
> is out (such as Wing Armada, etc?)?  And of course the biggie, will it be 
> native in Wing III?  Thanks for any info...

Armada does NOT support the GUS natively, and I cannot seem to get digital
audio to work at all with MegaEm, though the music is nice.  I haven't tried
SBOS.  My thunderboard, a cheap sb clone, won't even do fm music and digital
sound together.  POOR sound support here.  However, WCIII is alleged to use
the new HMI drivers, and, hence, supports the GUS natively.  YES!  System
Shock does as well (support, that is.  I don't know if it uses HMI), quite
nicely at that.

Damian

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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 00:14:00 -0500
From: adam.lloyd@ablelink.org (Adam Lloyd)
Subject: HELP!
Message-ID: <1e.77814.50@ablelink.org>

Hi,

okay, I have a Mitsumi CDROM, a GUS with 1 meg, and a game that doesn't work
its Where in the World is CARMEN SAN DIEGO: DELUXE it is a CD version. I am
using SBOS v3.82 to emulate the sound blaster, the game starts, plays a little
music, and die's. Now, when I don't use the SBOS the game works just, 
fine. any suggestions? could be a conflict with the Mitsumi & SBOS? I've tried
MEGAEM <someone from GUS suggested it> it worked but I only got SOUND EFX, I
had no music whatsoever. any help would be greatly apprieciated!

														Adam.

Internet E-mail: adam.lloyd@ablelink.org
Echoing From: Toronto, ONT. CANADA.
---
 ~ QMPro 1.50 11-1075 ~ (A)bort, (R)etry, (S)mack the friggin thing7

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 14:29:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: "C.Moore" <yaga@u.washington.edu>
Subject: In favor of the mailing list

I don't know about y'all, but it is really hard to scroll through the 
huge digest and pick out what I want...  I would prefer to have the 
messages come individually and have the option to go to digest if I so 
desire...

Count this one vote for the mailing list.

chris

p.s.  if it's too much for the current listowner to do, it's really easy 
for me to set up a mailing list.  I don't know how many people would want 
to subscribe to both, though  (the digest would have to subscribe too, so 
that all the messages would go to it as well...  rambling...)

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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 10:17:58 +0800 (GMT+0800)
From: FLAT^^TOP <kohkhang@iscs.nus.sg>
Subject: Microcosm and the GUS.

anyone knows how to get microcosm to work with the GUS ? i've been
havin problems trying to even start it up... 8(
-- 
/===<Jerry Koh aka FLAT^^TOP at DISCS National University of Singapore>===\
| kohkhang@iscs.nus.sg, MsWFWG, GUSmax, Kelvin 64, & Supra v.Fc 28.8 user |
\====<DOOMer, X-phile, BattleTech, Babylon 5, StarTrek & StarWars fan>====/

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 94 14:53:00 CDT
From: "Hering, Gregory L (Greg)" <glhering@hsv24.pcmail.ingr.com>
Subject: Mike problems

I wanted to try out the audio recording abilities of the GUS.  First I 
bought a $5
Radio Shack cassette recorder mike (200 ohm dynamic) and hooked it up to
 the line in.  The recordings were scratchy so I returned the first mike and 
got a
$12 Radio Shack 500 ohm dynamic mike .  This is the impedence Gravis
recommends but it is still scratchy.  I have a 3.4 rev board which has 
stereo
mike input but I have plugged the mike straight into it.  I think this may 
be bad
because it's a stereo input and only a mono mike, but maybe it only grounds
out one channel and doesn't hurt it since it's an input.  Anyone know?  I 
suppose
I need a mono to stereo adapter to do it right.

So the problem is the recordings sound scratchy.  It sounds ok when used 
with
'playfile' in the 'P.A.' mode, that is, both mike input and speaker output 
turned
on, no recording.  It sounds ok when recording too, but when I play back the 

recording I just made it sounds scratchy.  Has anyone else had luck or 
problems
with using the mike?

The FAQ talks about 'being sure the mike is turned on in Windows'.  How is 
this done?
What driver is required to use the Sound Recorder utility that comes with
Windows?  [MCI] Sound is installed.  Currently I can just barely get very 
low level
distorted sounds and I know that I ought to be able to get better sound than 
this!

When I bring up the Windows Mixer it seems that the left channel is at about 
70%
and the right channel is nearly off.  It doesn't seem to remember the saved 
settings
and even when it says L+R locked they're not!  Anybody else got this 
problem?

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 20:03:37 +0100
From: Paal Andreassen <paaland3@knoll.kih.no>
Subject: Mitsumi connection to Gus

> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 21:43:44 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "David HL. Hoang" <dahoang@sparta.sjsu.edu>
> Subject: Mitsumi connection to GUS

> Hi everyone, I just bought a Mitsumi double speed CD-ROM drive and I was 
> wondering how I can connect the line-out of the CD-ROM into the GUS. The 
> connectors are different, so I can't just plug it into the GUS. I want to 
> be able to redirect the played CD into the GUS so I don't need to use a 
> headphone to connect to the Cdplayer. I have a GUS revision 3.4. I don't 
> have my manuals with me now, so if any help is possible without using th 
> manual would be appreciated. Thanks.

If your Mitsumi CD-ROM is like mine it comes with a four lines cable.
The cable is a follows:   R G L G
On the Gus you have two CD in connections, one three pin and one 
four pin.

Gus 3-pin:   R G L
Gus 4-pin:   R G G L

You'll have to connect the cable to the three-pin connector like this:

	Cable:      R G L G
				| | |
	Gus 3-pin : R G L 

This is a thight fit since the pins are of a bit different size, but
it you are careful you should get it to work just fine (I did)

R G L is short for Right Ground and Left (if you didn't understand that)

Hope this helped


Paal Andreassen <paaland3@knoll.kih.no>
Buskerud College, 
Department of Engineering,
Institute of Computer Science

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 22:33:46 AST
From: Jeremy McIntosh <jeremy@nbnet.nb.ca>
Subject: Mitsumi Connection To GUS

>Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 21:43:44 -0700 (PDT) 
>From: "David HL. Hoang" <dahoang@sparta.sjsu.edu> 
>Subject: Mitsumi connection to GUS 
> 
>Hi everyone, I just bought a Mitsumi double speed CD-ROM drive and I was  
>wondering how I can connect the line-out of the CD-ROM into the GUS. The  
>connectors are different, so I can't just plug it into the GUS. I want to  
>be able to redirect the played CD into the GUS so I don't need to use a  
>headphone to connect to the Cdplayer. I have a GUS revision 3.4. I don't  
>have my manuals with me now, so if any help is possible without using th  
>manual would be appreciated. Thanks. 
  
   Hi. I bought a cable at the local Computer Store for my Mitsumi double
speed and my GUS. It costed about $8.00. They come in packages that say what
sound card and what CD-Rom it works with... I naturally selected the one for
GUS and Mitsumi. You could always cut the cable and *rig* something up :). 
 
 I Forget the name of the company that manufactures those replacement
cables....
 
	Jeremy.             
					  KEEP SUPPORTING THE GUS!!!

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 23:29:54 -0500
From: lala@interaccess.com (Imre Olajos)
Subject: MONO mike, Chris, MONO !!!

Hey, Chris!

All I know is that I bought TWO cheap Radio Shack mikes for my old GUS. I
personally soldered and put together a little splitter. This way I had a
STEREO mike. If I shouted in the left mike, only the left channel sounded and
when I shouted in the right-hand mike, only the right channel sounded.

However, the exact same configuration did not work this way in my GUSMAX. When
I shouted in the left mike, the left channel sounded. But when I shouted in
the right mike, nothing came out. Alas, the GUS had stereo "mic in" jack,
while the GUSMAX has only a mono "mic in" jack.

BUT my point is that Advanced Gravis degraded an option in an upgrade! That's
the kind of stuff that doesn't make sense to me! I wanted to make stereo
samples from my hi-fi system AUX IN (connected to my GUS's mic in), but I
guess, I can say goodbye to that...

I still think the GUS is GREAT for its price! :)

Keep pushing the GUSing! :)

Imre OLAJOS (LaLa of TranSByte)
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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 16:45:37 -0400
From: Xes Laro <cdmckill@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: MONO Recording on MAX...

Okay...

	Maybe my opinions are wierd on recoding in stereo, but for most 
INSTRUMENTS, there is very little diference in sound unless you use two 
mics in different places, which is do able to with adaptors, is a pain.  

	Now, as for the standard GUS being mono input...They are now 
using pretty much the same mixing chip on the GUS and the MAX, therefore, 
since the SDK has yet to be updated (correct me if I am wrong) for the 
MAX and the new revision of the GUS, it could be possible that the new 
mixing chip is being used in the GUS too????

	Now, my next question is why did they change it???  When the 
example of the car passing by was used, I started to think with a 
different perspective than before and started to get a little irritated.  
Why did they remove Stereo recording from the MAX???  Wouldn't that be 
considered a DOWNGRADE????  Gravis people help me out on this one could ya??

		Chris

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Chris McKillop      "Happiness....is a warm gun..."
Computer Engineering             -The Beatles
University of Waterloo, Canada                  cdmckill@novice.uwaterloo.ca

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 15:25:36 -0700
From: Dave Tweten <tweten@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov>
Subject: On Being a "Digest"

Don't get me wrong.  I'm glad to see that someone has picked up the dropped
Gus Daily Digest ball.  It's just that the next step needs to be taken --
actually making it a digest.  To the editor: Read carefully; there'll be a
test at the end.

Today the Gus Daily Digest actually included as an "article" the output from
someone's vacation program, declaring that Fred is out of the office, he
values your mail and he will answer it when he returns.  Really!  This (and
at least 50% of the rest of the stuff in the Gus Daily Digest has no place in
a digest.  Digests (think of Readers Digest) are publications for people who
lack some combination of the inclination, time or reading skills to "just
read it all."  On the Internet, they exist to rescue people from having to
deal with the deluge of a mailing list.  So far, the Gus Daily Digest is just
the concatenation of all the messages in a mailing list, flotsam included. 
Please, I emplore the editor, EDIT!

Now the test:  If you read this message in the Gus Daily Digest, the editor
has failed.  Go back and read it again.

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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 01:42:38 -0100 (GMT-1:00)
From: Joshua Felsteiner <joshua@phys1.technion.ac.il>
Subject: Origin's (lac of) GUS support

I think there's been a mix-up here.  As far as I know, Origin didn't and 
still doesn't support the GUS.  I don't know if it plans to.
The source of the error is perhaps the fact that there is GUS support in 
Origin's System Shock, but the key to understanding this one title is 
that it wasn't made by Origin, but it's merely distributed by it.  The 
game itself was done by Looking Glass Technologies, and not Origin.

Origin didn't release GUS support with Wing Commander Armada, although I 
think those two games came in about the same time.  WCA was indeed done 
byy Origin, and that may explain the lack of GUS support.

Keep on bashing Origin till it actually does support the GUS :)


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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 94 15:05:57 EDT
From: Phil Longstaff <phill@dnbf01.bram.cdx.mot.com>
Subject: OS/2 drivers and other stuff

> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 11:09:21 -0700
> From: Derek Suzuki <drkszk@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
> Subject: Megaem and OS/2
> 
>   For the guy who asked whether the new Megaem would work with OS/2,
> I would think that it would be more effective to duplicate the Megaem
> functionality in a VDD and tie this to the OS/2 driver settings.  This
> way every DOS session would have access to a virtual MT-32/SCC-1/SB, and
> requests could be processed through the main device driver.  This might
> prevent some conflicts, and would probably be more efficient than running
> Megaem itself in a DOS session.
>   So can anyone from Gravis shed some light on the subject?

I agree completely (I am the guy).  However, given the rabbit-like speed
with which AG has written these drivers (I agree with the previous message
in this digest in which they promised drivers RSN back in June of 1993),
I am looking for anything which will give me some sound in my DOS sessions.
I noticed in a later message that Robert Manley would contact them about
putting the MegaEm functionality in a VDD.  If they are not planning to do
this and they let you do this, my eternal gratitude.
> 
> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 21:43:44 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "David HL. Hoang" <dahoang@sparta.sjsu.edu>
> Subject: Mitsumi connection to GUS
> 
> Hi everyone, I just bought a Mitsumi double speed CD-ROM drive and I was 
> wondering how I can connect the line-out of the CD-ROM into the GUS. The 
> connectors are different, so I can't just plug it into the GUS. I want to 
> be able to redirect the played CD into the GUS so I don't need to use a 
> headphone to connect to the Cdplayer. I have a GUS revision 3.4. I don't 
> have my manuals with me now, so if any help is possible without using th 
> manual would be appreciated. Thanks.

Please post responses to the digest (or forward to me as well) as I am in the
same boat.

> 
> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 15:42:41 -0400 (EDT)
> From: rjm@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca
> Subject: OS/2 driver for GUS
> 
> I am in the process of contacting Advanced Gravis to see if they want the
> logic from MegaEm converted over to an OS/2 VDD (as it should).  I'll let
> the digest know what happens.
> 
> Robert.

As I said above, if AG is not planning this but will let you do it, my eternal
gratitude.

I think Robert Manley should be sent our collective thanks (and lots of
registration cheques/checks) for filling the void left by Gravis.  He may have
been put into a lowsy position if, after spending a lot of his own time on
helping people who were royally pissed off (and rightly so) at AG, they come
out with some free drivers.  Of course, he may have done a much better job than
AG did.  Who knows?

Phil Longstaff, Motorola ISG, Mississauga Ontario

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 16:21:16 -0400
From: Ka-Ping Yee <kryee@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Problems recording with a GUS MAX

When i originally got my GUS Max, i was unable to record properly.  Using
SoundStation, whenever i tried to record a .WAV (say off the CD or microphone)
all i got from the input was FF 00 FF 00 FF 00 FF 00 FF 00 FF 00 FF 00,
which comes out as a deafening whine.  Then i replaced my Windows drivers
with a new set (5.34 i think) and recording works perfectly.

But i run Linux, and i know i have the GUS Max sound driver installed
correctly because it recognizes the Max at the right IRQ and port during
kernel boot.  And gmod plays fine.  But if i try to record from /dev/dsp
or /dev/audio, i get the old result... the data files look exactly like
FF 00 FF 00 FF 00 FF 00....

What gives?

Any help would be much appreciated.


Ping

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 17:55:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: "MR George M." <gmontem@mercury.sfsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Rise of the Robots

Where can I find the 5MB Rise of the Robots playable demo?  I cannot find it 
at the ftp.uwp.edu site and I only found a .FLC demo at wuarchive.wustl.edu?

As for other games, will Hardball IV have native GUS support?  The text 
file on the demo says it will support GUS, but will it natively and not 
with some customized Mega-Em?  The playable demos really flies on a 
486-66, especially when the game is in 640x480x256 colors!

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 94 23:02:47 CDT
From: epyle@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu (Eric Pyle)
Subject: Sampling, Samples and UT 1.61?

Ok I got three things for you GUyS, 

First of all, can anyone give me some tips on
making noisless samples?  When I record a sample
of my voice through the mic. I get a lot of noise
over my voice...When I don't talk, there isn't much
noise...until I start talking.  

Also I am looking for some good guitar/drum samples for
an .ULT that I am composing... Any suggestions where I 
should rip/convert them from....I've tried converting .PAT
files to .wav's or .uwf's but I get a lot of noise...I know
that 1.6 supports .pat files, but it doesn't play them right...

Lastly, Marc S. (of Ultra Tracker) told me that there was an
ULtra Tracker 1.61 and it should be available...my question is...where?

thanks for any suggestions...help...etc...

Eric.....handleless

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 13:20:03 -0500
From: DMCATEER@LoyalistC.ON.CA
Subject: Subject:

Hello Gusers.

It is now my firm belief that the good old days were using install
disks ver. 3.11!!
Since upgrading to 3.56, GUS and Windows  hate each other's guts.
Avi's that used to work now lock up. Program Manager sometimes comes
up blank with error messages like "xxx.grp is invalid or damaged etc.
etc ." and sometimes locks up when trying to exit Windows and clicks 
and chirps playing waves are now heard. Mods, mids, and s3ms etc all
sound excellent though but this is only half the fun.
These problems all disappeared of course when I dumped any file that
had to do with the GUS off my HD.
Jesus, I though upgrades were meant to improve things not  crap out
everything.
Please convince me to keep my GUS because I'm getting reeeeeeally
discouraged. I have a feeling I'll be reverting back to v.3.11.
Seems like a step backwards, doesn't it?

BTW,  excellent mod sites:  ftp.eng.ufl.edu   pub/msdos/demos/music
						   ftp.brad.ac.uk
						   src.doc.ic.ac.uk   packages/ultrasound

Sorry Vince, and everyone, for the bitch once again. (G)
Maybe I'll get this whole mess straightened out one day.
Happy Gusing to the rest of you lucky shits :-)

Dave Mc.

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