Ultrasound Daily Digest     Sat May 29 00:32     Volume 3: Issue  58  

Today's Topics:
								48Khz
				  [GUS] and Casio DH100 Digital Horn
					GUS: Telemart -> South Africa
			GUS from Telemart (Was: GUS in South Africa?)
					   GUS probs with 7th Guest
							New Midi File
						 Patches out of tune
						  Sampling Frequency
							  Some stuff
						  Strike Com and GYS
				Voice recognition software and systems
						Where's the beef..???

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Fri, 28 May 93 9:52:46 PDT
From: gabrielj@sfu.ca
Subject: 48Khz
Message-ID: <9305281652.AA13427@fraser.sfu.ca>

Ok, in regards to Chris about not being able to play back at 48Khz, the
daughtercard WILL allow you to record and play at 48Khz.

BTW, I love your mids.  Are you familiar with Led Zepplins' Rockn' Roll?

If so I wonder if you could fix the midi file's instruments.  I think the music has been sequenced properly but the instruments are screwed.  Remapping them to match the gus's patch set would be wicked.  If you're interested, I'll
upload it to epas.

  ly

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Date: 28 May 93 13:20:40 GMT
From: ts@tkk.tele.fi (Teemu Stewen)
Subject: [GUS] and Casio DH100 Digital Horn
Message-ID: <ts.738595240@tkk.tele.fi>

ReprintFrom: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard

Has anybody tried to use GUS with Casio DH100 Digital Horn?

I have tried and noticed two problems:

1. DH100 sends the original blowing power in the velocity field of Note On 
   midi message and after that the subsequent changes are sent in 
   Channel Aftertouch messages (many).

   Example:

		 Note On     80
		 Aftertouch  81 (blowing harder)
		 Aftertouch  82
		 Aftertouch  83
		 Aftertouch  82 (blowing softer)
		 Aftertouch  81
		 Aftertouch  80
		 (and so on...)
		 (until...)
		 Aftertouch  01 
		 Note On     00 ( = Note off)

   GUS (Windows drivers) didn't interprete Aftertouch messages 
   (Obviously these should be interpreted as Channel Volume messages
   in this case).

2. It seems that Windows and GUS is too slow to get all midi information 
   that DH100 sends because usually Note Off messages are not caught 
   (Patch Manager, WinJammer etc.).

   I have even tried it with 486DX2 50 MHz machine.

Maybe GUSORGAN (it didn't lose Note Off messages, but understands 
only Note On and Off messages)  or some other DOS program 
has the potential capacity to interprete also these messages.

I hope that somebody could help me because it would be nice to use DH100
(my only midi controller) with GUS.
--
Teemu Stewen, ts@tkk.tele.fi              X.400: G=Teemu ; S=Stewen
Telecom Research Centre, Finland          PRMD=trc ; ADMD=mailnet ; C=fi

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1993 11:43:08 +0300 (EDT)
From: Lasse Hero <larry@mdata.fi>
Subject: GUS: Telemart -> South Africa
Message-ID: <199305280843.AA05217@mdata.fi>

rogan@concave.cs.wits.ac.za (Rogan Alan Hastings Dawes) writes:

>I see that they are advertising the GUS for about $127-00 and
>then say 
>
>that I must add 6% for an international order. Does that
>include postage?
>
>If not, any idea of how much postage is?

Don't know about South Africa, but DHL shipping to Finland is $25.
For three cards it's $48...

And no, that 6 % doesn't include postage.
 

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Date: Fri, 28 May 93 11:24:11 GMT+3:00
From: iddos@math.tau.ac.il
Subject: GUS from Telemart (Was: GUS in South Africa?)
Message-ID: <9305280824.AA07378@virgo.math.tau.ac.il>

rogan@concave.cs.wits.ac.za asks:}

>I was wondering if anyone}
>could tell me how Telemart's international ordering works.}

Telemart could tell you, promptly and by fax, as they did for me.
I faxed them questions similiar to yours, then my credit card order. It then took
the GUS 7 days to reach here (Tel-Aviv, Israel) by regular airmail parcel post
(which I prefered over the slightly more expensive air shipping they offered).

-- 
Ido Amin                                               iddos@math.tau.ac.il

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Date: Thu, 27 May 93 22:15 GMT0BST-1
From: Paul Kokis <scratcher@cix.compulink.co.uk>
Subject: GUS probs with 7th Guest
Message-ID: <memo.267423@cix.compulink.co.uk>

Hi.
 I'm having sound problems when playing 7th Guest using my GUS thru
SBOS. The PCM sampled speech plays in 'sections', and sometimes misses
entire chunks.

 I've been advised that this may be due to the amount of
processor time used by GUS for SBOS - however, I'm not so sure as I get
the same type of sound fault when playing any VfW clips that have sound,
and (in Windows) I'm *not* using SBOS.
										  Increasing MSCDEX buffers doesn't
seem to make much difference. BTW I'm using a 486DX2/66 with a Toshiba 3401
CD-ROM, so it's got me baffled! Any ideas? 
Regards,
		Paul (Scratch)

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Date: 29 May 1993 01:36:01 -0500 (EST)
From: STU_JABIRCHE@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Subject: New Midi File
Message-ID: <01GYQAG5M2SI8Y5EL1@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>

I found a great mod that reminded me a lot of the Boesendorfer mod.  It is
called the Dimples Rag. It was straight Acoustic Grand Piano, so I unleashed
mod2mid on it and got some really good results.  If you liked Boesendo.mid, 
you will probably like this one, too.  The mod writer is apparently Doozer and
the name of it is Dimples Rag. Enjoy. I did.
-=Marc=-

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Date: Fri, 28 May 93 16:32:01 +0200
From: waardenb@cs.utwente.nl (Jerry van Waardenberg)
Subject: Patches out of tune
Message-ID: <9305281432.AA23569@hermes.cs.utwente.nl>

Dear John (and others),

I've found that two release 2.01 samples are out of tune!
These are Calliope.pat and Carillon.pat.
The way to solve this problem (as you might know) is to edit default.cfg:

83 calliope 100 -5
113 carillon 100 +7

This way Playmidi will correctly play the two instruments.
But I often play midi-files from within Windows. Then this little
trick doesn't work anymore.
The solution is very simple: edit the two patches!

In Calliope.pat, find 9D FD 02, and replace it with E0 FD 03

In Carillon.pat, find C0 B6 06, and replace it with E0 7A 04

(and restore default.cfg to its old state.)

I got these new patches by modem, but what would have happened if I
didn't have a modem? Then I would still be waiting! 
I have sent the registration-card to Logitech in Switzerland. Are
we - European buyers - on your mailing-list?

Keep up the good work (and send me the 3-D drivers!).

Marc Kloosterman

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Date: Fri, 28 May 93 10:40:59 MDT
From: Stuart Yoshida <yoshida@elektra.fc.hp.com>
Subject: Re: Sampling Frequency
Message-ID: <9305281641.AA03955@elektra.fc.hp.com>

chrisw <chrisw@leland.Stanford.EDU> writes:
>> 1.  When recording any sound source, the better the resolution you have
>>     (i.e., the higher the sampling rate), the better the recording
>>     results.  Also, you won't always be recording from the GUS.  I plan
>>     on recording external audio input, and therefore a 48KHz sampling
>>     rate is very desirable.
>
>But what are you going to play it back on? I mean, unless you've got 48khz
>recording AND playback I'm not sure I see the point. Actually, to tell you
			   ^^^^^^^^
		   The playback DAC's are at 16-bit resolution.  At 48KHz
		   sampling rate you're getting more information in those
		   16-bits.  Therefore your file size will be larger, too.

>the truth I've never understood the 48kHz rate anyway. 44.1kHz should be 
>enough to capture all audible frequencies, shouldn't it? (Though the
>neighbourhood cats and dogs might be really impressed!). My feeling is
>that most microphones and speakers are going to start rolling off pretty fast 
>above the 20kHz mark anyway.
>
>[...Other stuff deleted...]

 The reality of the sampling rate is that even at 48KHz you're not
 really getting much information at 20KHz.  The *MINIMUM* number of
 samples needed to capture a 20KHz signal is 40KHz, but we're talking a
 pretty crude signal reconstruction.  So in practical use a 48KHz
 sampling rate is better because it gives you *OVERHEAD* to capture more
 of the characteristic overtones of the signal at, say, 10KHz to 12KHz
 (where a lot of stuff is going on).

>
>Chris.

--

  Stuart Yoshida

Internet: yoshida@elektra.fc.hp.com
   Voice: (303) 229-2324

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Date: 28 May 1993 19:22:51 -0500 (EST)
From: STU_JABIRCHE@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Subject: Some stuff
Message-ID: <01GYPXAEA5YQ8Y5CYH@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>

I use a Soundblaster Pro Midi connector with no modifications and have recorded
in Cakewalk with few problems.  The only thing that is strange is after I
listen to what I have recorded, I lose the sound, but I can save what I have,
close Cakewalk, reopen it and load what I had, then record another track. I
think I eventually solved that problem, but I don't remember how. I haven't
had access to a midi keyboard in awhile, so I couldn't play with it.

I couldn't get Strike Commander to work with a SBPro, so I returned it.

When I try to use Composd 669, I can write a whole song, but when I go to
save it, my comp locks up. I don't know if it's because of the ruthless
memory requirements or the coexistence of soundcards in my machine, but I
had to delete that program as well since it was pretty useless that way.

-=Bubba=-

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Date: Fri, 28 May 1993 12:25:34 -0700
From: Eric N. Liao <liaoe@aero.org>
Subject: Strike Com and GYS
Message-ID: <199305281925.AA02795@aerospace.aero.org>

Whoops, should read Strike Com and GUS.  Will the new Miles driver work with
Strike Commander.  Someone posted that Origin demoed SC with a "patch on a
patch", implying some non-standard configuration necessary to make ends meet.

Also, to the guy with SC and SB Pro, I couldn't get SC to recognize the SBPro,
either.  I was at Egghead, and their SBPro2.0 sounded exactly like a
Soundblaster.  Anyway, I noticed that if you type "dir *.adv", there is no
driver for SBProFM (either 22voice2-op, or 20voice4-op.)  Maybe Origin just
forgot?

I tried putting the SBPro.adv file (from Monopoly) into the SC directory, but
that did nothing.  Apparently, the SC install program refers only to a pre-
compiled library within itself, so even if you DELETED all the .adv files,
SC install doesn't complain.

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Date: 28 May 93 19:00:00 GMT
From: robertson@ewir-wr.robins.af.mil (Joel Robertson)
Subject: Voice recognition software and systems
Message-ID: <28MAY199314005652@ewir-wr.robins.af.mil>

ReprintFrom: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard

There has bee interest lately in voice recognation software and systems
so I have put together this list of products that I have found so far.
Future postings will include reviews and additional information provided
by the manufacturers and readers of IBMSND-L and comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.

Please email me any additions or corrections.

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1. In Cubed

   A Windows program to allow voice control of windows commands.
   A demo was available on sony.com (192.65.137.2)  in
   /pub/comp.binaries.ms-windows/v3 as in3demo.zip. The demo has
   a limited set of pre defined commands which cannot be changed.

   Price: $179.00

   Command Corp, Inc.
   3675 Crestwood Parkway
   Deluth, GA 30136
   404-925-7950

2. Voice Blaster

   I saw Voice Blaster in a Software Etc. store. From reading the
   box, it seems to be a DOS TSR whics reconizes and executes DOS
   commands.

   Price: Unknown

   Covox, Inc.
   675 Conger Street
   Eugene, OR 97402
   (503) 342-1271

3. Microsoft Sound System

   Microsoft Sound System comes with a windows program called Voice
   Pilot which allows voice control of windows commands. This program
   only works with the Microsoft sound card. Microsoft Sound System
   includes sound board, software, and microphone.

   Price $289.00

   Microsoft Corp
   One Microsoft Way
   Redmond, WA 98052-6399
   800-426-9400

4. Telaccount Speech Recognizer

   Works woth Windows 3.1 and DOS programs. Works with SoundBlaster and
   most other Windows-compatible sound boards. Voice lookup program
   included.

   Price $69.00

   Telaccount Inc.
   421 Anthwyn Road
   Narberth PA 19072
   215-664-2410

5. Listen for Windows, Version 1.0

   Listen for Windows is a continious voice recognition package that is
   trained to individual voices. Developers can use the included software
   to create custom voice input applications. Includes Listen software,
   Speech Comander (an 8-bit ISA sound recognition card), and a headset
   microphone. It will work with other sound boards installed. Reviewed
   by PC Magazine, Vol 12 No 11, pg 49.

   Price $695.00

   Verbex Voice Systems, Inc.
   1090 King Georges Post Road
   Bldg 107
   Edison, NJ 08837
   800-275-8729
   908-225-5225
   908-225-7764 (fax)

6. Recognizer

   A beta release Recognizer was available in Library 15 of the Windows
   3rd Party C Forum (WINAPC) as recog.zip. The prescribed beta test
   period expired on 15 March 1993. Therefore, no further distribution
   by me is possible. Further information may be availble on the Speach
   Recognition Forum on the Aristosoft BBS.

   Price: Not Established

   Aristosoft, Inc.
   510-426-6703 fax
   510-426-5641 BBS



Joel Robertson

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Date: Fri, 28 May 93 20:08:09 PDT
From: brian@ccnext.ucsf.edu (Brian Huddleston)
Subject: Where's the beef..???
Message-ID: <9305290308.AA01693@ccnext.ucsf.edu>

  
This is getting scarey!   Nothing new has gone up on EPAS for a while.  
The inactivity is doesnt seem right.  Is anyone out there making anything for
the GUS?  Any info to wet our whisle's (sp?).....:-????

						brian@ccnext.ucsf.edu

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