Ultrasound Daily Digest     Tue, 19 Oct 93  0:49 MDT     Volume 7: Issue  18  

Today's Topics:
					  Games that play MOD files
							  GUS/retail
							  gus split
					   Highlight of Digest #15
							Return to Zork
				  Second Reality works with DR DOS!
								split
		 Split decision. (What to do with 'other' emails???)
					 Splitting and OS/2 CD player
						Splitting the Digest.
							  The Split
					Ultrasound Daily Digest V7 #12

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 93 7:18:47 PDT
From: mikebat@netcom.com (Mike Batchelor)
Subject: Re: Games that play MOD files

Not the Ultrasound Server once wrote...
$  
$  ------------------------------
$  
$  Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1993 10:35:28 +1000 (EST)
$  From: Andrew See <asee@st.nepean.uws.edu.au>
$  Subject: Why Harry1 don't work!
$  
$  Ok guys. I've worked out why Halloween Harry doesn't work with
$  SBOS. THe game uses MOD files, and obviously doesn't work
$  with SBOS for the same reason most old SB demos don't.
$  
$  Can someone email a copy of the GUSMOD source to apogee
$  soon.
$  

Hmm, this is an interesting comment.  A friend gave me his older copy of
Star Control 2, the release that came out before it had GUS support.  I
played it with SBOS 2.08 and SBOS 1.20 and all the mods played without a
hitch, in fact, it sounds as good as the later version with GUS support!

Here's the weird part:  the old version with no GUS support has the same
sound effect garbling problem with SBOS as the new version does with
native support!  How can this be a problem with the SDK that existed at
that early stage?  Has anybody listened to SC2 on a real SB?  Does it mix
up the sound effects there, too?  I did notice that the garbling was
different in the old version, other sounds get thrown around at the wrong
times, than in the new version.

Forget Gusmod, send them ZZPlay or Metal.

-- 
Mike Batchelor      |
mikebat@netcom.com  |                  This space for rent
mikebat@qdeck.com   |

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1993 13:04:43 -0500 (CDT)
From: Phil Johnson <pjohnso2@ua.d.umn.edu>
Subject: GUS/retail

Bill Norton, I'm also sure you'd like to know that the GUS has been
available since late spring at Best Buy.  :)  For those of you who don't
know, Best Buy is a huge retail store of home electronics, computers,
appliances, etc. in the Midwest... some of you know Circuit City, a
competitor of Best Buy, a little better.  
  A sure sign of a good market is seeing the item at a major* retailer
such as Best Buy.
  Now, all we have to do is get gravis to send demo cards to the retailers
and get the retailers to approve it for display.  A lot of people don't
realize this, but to display XYZ company's product, the head honchos at
the retailers have to approve the product to be demonstrated.  They cannot
play favorites, or competitors would drop their business.  
  But I think the retail stores should get a demo for EACH sound card they
carry and let the buyer decide the GUS is the way to go.  :)


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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 93 14:12:50 CDT
From: eason@ncrnd3.StPaul.NCR.COM (Dale Eason)
Subject: Re: gus split

I agree with Steve Larson  and vote for a games/Audio split.  I have lately been
very annoyed by all the email to game companies messages.

Dale Eason

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1993 13:04:56 +0000
From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
Subject: Highlight of Digest #15

> By the way, I looked in the no name SB16 box and found it to be a real
> SB16 card with the same chips, same jumpers, sockets for the ASP, and
> real Creative Labs chips on beard.
							  ^^^^^
I couldn't resist it.

And on splitting the Digest: Surely we just want games / anything other
than games. Just create the latter and let us sort ourselves out with
subscribe/unsubscribe. It shouldn't be called 'music' because that is
too restrictive, and leaves nowhere for the general questions.

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1993 20:29:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: Phil Johnson <pjohnso2@ua.d.umn.edu>
Subject: Return to Zork

 .. I figured I'd contribute to RTZ info...
  I am VERY impressed with the floppy-based version, as it supports the
GUS wonderfully*.  The music is excellent, and the digi sound is good,
too..  not the greatest, but good.  Incidentally, I heard the digi voices
on my friend's PAS 16 and the digi sound on the GUS was a LOT nicer than
on the PAS16.. I was also impressed because I have a SB16 in my system as
well.  
  RTZ was well done, and that's the way it should be done in future games.


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| pjohnso2@ub.d.umn.edu  Univ. of Minnesota - Duluth | "Lawnmower Man's in |
 -----------------------------------------------------  your head now,     |
													 |  Jake."             |
								 | -- Jeff Fahey in    |
							 | Stephen King's THE  |
							 | LAWNMOWER MAN       |
													 |_____________________|

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 93 11:21:55 -0400
From: "Momentary language, sexual situations" <dantonio@magick.tay2.dec.com>
Subject: Second Reality works with DR DOS!

Yup, Future Crew came through and 2nd Reality working fabulously on my DR
DOS system with a measly 572K free. No lockups or hangs, no complaints
about memory and a fine presentation!

Well done, guys!
DDA

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 93 14:17:22 EDT
From: dmcintyr@muselab.ac.runet.edu
Subject: split

I'd like to go on record as saying that I'm still for the split but I
would like to see a GUS newsgroup even more.  I think we have enough
volume, at least judging from the time when I learned of this digest (I've
mostly been a lurker, I'm afraid) and it would make it much easier to get
to the appropriate messages.

If we did get our own newsgroup I don't think it would be necessary to
sub-divide it into a .gus.music and .gus.games type of arrangement since
the facilities of almost any newsreader make it easy to get to the
messages that you're interested in.

Just my two cents...  Multiply by a few million and you're talking some
real money... *grin* 
--Michael--

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 93 10:03:40 EDT
From: ciabatto@esc.syr.ge.com (David Ciabattoni)
Subject: Split decision. (What to do with 'other' emails???)

First, I would like to say that spltting the digest is a good idea, the
question is what to do with the 'other' questions. For example, where
would talk about the 16 bit daughter card go? I guess the only way to
be fair would be to have a 3rd address to send a message to Both, but
then for those who get both digests, you would read it twice.!!

As for a newsgroup. Well , some companies 'regulate' what newsgroups are readable
so in that case some people might miss out! Not every GUS user is a student.
Plus, wasnt that already attemped. (The ...soundcard.GUS)

I also agree it would be better to give EVERYBODY both digests and let them 
unsubscribe to the one(s) they do not want. I many times skim the digest and might
miss the fact that there now two (2).

Anyways, these are my 3.141529 cents...

Does anybody know about Gravis financial status, I remember a few months ago some
one posting Gravis stock quote and quarterly report, does anyone still follow
that? Im kinda interested!!! I WONDER if being a stock owner might 'hurry up'
GRAVIS' work on OS/2 support???????

Happy Day
- Dave

ps . Is that pinball game "Silverball" shareware or retail? In eithor case, 
where can I get it???

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1993 09:44:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mark Harrison <harrison@lclark.edu>
Subject: Splitting and OS/2 CD player

On Sat, 16 Oct 1993, Clarke Brunt wrote:

> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 14:17:41 +0000
> From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: Drum machine, CD player, Windows loading
> 
> While I'm sending a message anyway - Let's split the Digest into
> two, for Games/Music.

I agree.  I would like both, but as many people seem to keep forgetting,
some people have to PAY to download the digest.  Having separate lists
would be nice for them.  Especially a new GUS owner who wants to download
a lot of old digests to get up to speed.  They may not care to pay big $$$
to get games or music info.

As for creating a new newsgroup, remember that the digest goes out to a
lot of places that don't get news.  If we drop the digest for a new
newsgroup, these people will be left out in the cold.  I think it's better
to spread the word as far as possible.  Of course a new newsgroup in
addition to the digest would be nice, but that's something that should be
talked about on the regular soundcard group.  (hint for new GUS owners. 
It's already been tried several times.  But if you want to try again, go
for it.)

> Re: GUS works with OS/2 CD Player. Surely connecting a CD player to
> the CD Audio-in pins on the GUS does not demonstrate a GUS working
> under OS/2.  I would have thought that all it demonstrates is that
> the GUS can amplify an analogue signal from CD audio-in, and send it
> out through audio-out. 

Well, it's not really meant to demonstrate anything.  It was meant to be a
nice little hint for those GUS owners who are sick and tired of their GUSes
going to waste while we wait on OS/2 support from Gravis.  I know I would
prefer to hear SOMETHING as opposed to NOTHING while working with OS/2
(which is about 99% of the time.)  I'm not really concerned with what it
does or doesn't demonstrate or what the card is or isn't doing.  I just
want to use my GUS and this is just another work around.

Mark Harrison
harrison@sun.lclark.edu

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1993 14:29:03 +0100 (BST)
From: "Rupert G. Wilson" <sbswilsn@reading.ac.uk>
Subject: Splitting the Digest.

Dear Dave,
Yes please split the digest, you can always look back through the archives
if you need to find some information that you have missed.  I'm getting a
bit fed up of late with the amount of "How do I get X-Wing to run on my
ZX81" and also excessive bandwith repeating huge chunks of yesturdays
digest.  I suggest a split into "Games" and "The Rest" be it Professional
Users or Non Teenage Freaks.  I would also advocate sending out the FAQ to
all new subscribers, and maybe even once a month to EVERYONE!
To end how about a newsgroup?  Surely we can pass the quorum by now?
Well that's my 2p's worth or should I say 0.002 ECU's.
Rupert
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1993 10:16:59 -0400
From: davidm@marcam.com (David MacMahon)
Subject: Re: The Split

>Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1993 12:37:24 -0500 (CDT)
>From: Ren Hoek <ren@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
>Subject: Re: Splitting the digest
>
>Rather than splitting the digest up into games and music sections, why don't
>we just create comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.gus, and possibly have
>comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.gus.music and comp.sys....soundcard.gus.games

>Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1993 16:11:00 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Brian Go <bgo@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>
>Subject: Creating comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.gus instead.
>
>I think it would be a better idea to create a GUS newsgroup instead of
>splitting the digest.  Reading the digest, to me, is now just scanning it
>until I reach the subject I find interesting.  Why not create a newsgroup
>so we could all do it efficiently.

If and only if this new newsgroup were digestified and bi-directionally 
gatewayed with a mailing list would I be in favor of moving the digest to a 
newsgroup.  I happen to have access to a news, but this digest is e-mailed 
around the world to many sites that don't have access to news.  Even if a 
newsgroup were created,  you will still have people who want to split it 
even further.  I wonder how long it will be before someone suggests a 
breakup into c.s.i.p.s.g.games.apogee.*, c.s.i.p.s.g.games.origin.*, 
c.s.i.p.s.g.lucasarts.*, etc. :-)

>Date: Sun, 17 Oct 93 12:41:14 CDT
>From: Michael J Stumpf <mjs7529@tamsun.tamu.edu>
>Subject: list split.
>
>1.  The volume of this list is not excessive.  Most of us have access
>to terminals with a fast connection to a mail server of some type, so
>paging through unwanted articles is not a problem.

Those of us with high performance internet connections shouldn't forget that 
alot of people read the digest over a 2400 baud connection.  IMHO, their 
complaint that the digest is getting too big is *alot* more valid than other 
complaints that two digests would mean a cluttered mail box or require more 
"save space".

I vote for a split.  (This split idea has generated alot of volume of its own!)

Dave

David MacMahon
Systems Administrator
davidm@marcam.com  <---New address, use this one
davidm@opl.com     <---Old address, don't use this one

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 93 15:05 +08:00
From: S71381%BC750.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Ultrasound Daily Digest V7 #12



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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 93 11:28:56 +0100
From: rock@POOL.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE

 Hi !
 
 What does the status "BONUS" mean in the Gravis database 
 of registered users ?

 Thanx...Olli

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 93 12:30:34 BST
From: Si <target@ukc.ac.uk>

I am the owner of a Gravis Ultrasound card.
My problem is I cannot get it to function correctly with the new Electronic
Arts / Origin production "Privateer"

The card runs ok in standard Sound-Blaster mode, however when I try to
install speech the game constantly hangs. Is there a know fix for this?

Regards,

Si Cruse.

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