GUS Daily Digest            Tue, 4 Jan 94   007          Volume 10: Issue   4 

Today's Topics:
					  cd-out to gus in question.
					   cd2 pinouts on the gus?
					   controller 7 in Mega-Em
					Day of the tentacle gmidi.ims
					   GUS Daily Digest V10 #3
						Jim Blakely eats crow
	   Looking for Voyetra (Piano Works) midi driver for GUS!!
								  MK
				Mortal Komabat and MEGA-EM in general
					 MPU-401/General MIDI issues
						 Power Chords Problem
					 The 7th Guest and Ultrasound

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 16:03:07 -0600 (CST)
From: mjs7529@tamuts.tamu.edu (Michael J Stumpf)
Subject: cd-out to gus in question.

This has been asked/debated before I'm sure, but I just got a cd rom drive.

Can anyone diagram a cable / tell me where to buy / sell me a cable to 
attach direct audio out to some input on the gravis?

thanks,

mike

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 11:03:44 -0800 (PST)
From: Art Lowery <artlow@netcom.com>
Subject: cd2 pinouts on the gus?

Not in the FAQ...


1.  Does anyone know what the CD2 pinouts are on the new gus cards?  I have 
the cd1 pinouts (l-gr-gr-r), but was wondering what that cd2 was for.

it is a 3 conductor dip male socket.

2.  I was able to play an audio cd though the gus, but only while in 
windows, is there a dos driver or program that does this?  I am running a 
playcd.exe program that came with the cd.

Thanks
art

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 94 11:18:34 EST
From: dmcintyr@muselab.ac.runet.edu
Subject: controller 7 in Mega-Em

To whoever that was yesterday...  Yes, you are correct.  Mega-Em
completely ignores controller 7 (channel volume) messages.  It's its
biggest limitation, so far.

Plans have been in the works for ages and eons to fix it, but nothing has
been done about it.

Personally I'm really starting not to care anymore, as Mega-Em will be
useless in another six months anyway as more and more companies move to a
32-bit interface, either proprietary or DPMI.  In either case Mega-Em will
shortly be worthless anyway, and if we don't get direct support by then
we're going to be out in the cold.

I'm really pissed off about this crap with Sierra.  I can't play their new
games in Windows because they're too too slow and they lock up.  I can't
play their new games in DOS using SBOS (which would be a terrible thing to
have to do anyway) because of the
2#%#$^$#@#$%#$@%T$E%^$%#@$%^#^%$#!%$%^R#^$@E^#^% DOS4GW DOS extender they
used which locks up on my motherboard.

In short, after nearly a year with no support and barely any significant
changes in the state of things, I'm really starting to get fed up as  GUS
owner.

I was positive at first, then negative, then positive again.  I remained
positive and hopeful for a long time but it's souring.  I just can't see
major support for the GUS, and they're rendering Mega-Em useless, so we're
just screwed screwed screwed.

--Michael-- << dmcintyr@muselab.ac.runet.edu >> <<dmcintyr@vt.edu>>

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Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 00:31:23 +1100 (EST)
From: Iain Huxley <ihuxley@ucc.su.OZ.AU>
Subject: Day of the tentacle gmidi.ims

I have just bought Day of The tentacle, and it looks like a really good 
game.. but using sbos the sound is nothing like as good as the demo 
version which I have used with megaem, since the roland/gmidi drivers are 
not included.  The readme indicates that you can send off for a free 
upgrade, but there is nothing in the box regarding this.  The shop has no 
more copies and since I bought it for a really good price I am holding 
onto it. 
	So...  Does anyone know where I can get hold of the update?
	The files req are Gmidi.ims or roland.ims...  
	I tried copying over the ones from the demo, and this crashed the
 machine.
	Perhaps someone could send me them?
	
thanks,

Iain
 

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 13:57:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Vincent Poy <hippo@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V10 #3

On Mon, 3 Jan 1994, GUS Server wrote:

> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 94 15:30:50 EST
> From: jmorris@ace.com (Cuthalion)
> Subject: Gravis Node?
> 
>    How does one go about becoming a liscensed gravis distribution node?
> I am cosysop of a bbs, and have asked the sysop, and he seems to be in
> favor of the idea, but would like more info.  where can i get a text
> file about this?
> 
Hmmm. I think you have to call the Gravis BBS to get it... Wouldn't it be
great if there was a 415/510 San Francisco Bay Area Gravis SUpport node :)

> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 94 11:05:44 -0500
> From: ap641@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Hank Leukart)
> Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V10 #2
> 
> >> I've had my GUS since about March, but only recently got some memory to
> >> upgrade to 1Mb (for Xmas).  The problem is, I think I either got some
> >> wonky memory, or I'm doing something wrong.  The memory came from an old
> >> 286 motherboard, and seems to be the right kind:
> >> 
> >> AAAIM304P-08
> >> NMBS    9051
> >> 
> >> But, here's the problem.  When I put all six chips in, some of it reported
> >> as "bad" when I ran GUSDRAM.  But, I could load 1Mb worth of patches in
> >> Windows, and when I ran EMUSET, 1Mb loaded up. However, to be safe, I
> >> tested the chips two at a time.  So, I found the faulty chip, and thought
> >> everything was okay.
> >> 
> >> But, I just got XWing, and noticed a *lot* of static when I ran EMUSET
> >> with GMIDI emulation with the 1MB in.  With 256k it was fine (but only
> >> running at 8 bit :( ).  With 512k, it was still okay, no static, but still
> >> 8 bit.  With 768k (with GUSDRAM reporting all DRAM good), I got the static
> >> back.  So, I'm confused.  I thought the static was owing to the bad chip,
> >> but even with the bad chip not installed, I'm still getting static (loud
> >> enought to preclude enjoying the game).
> 
> >The problem is really the NMBS brand itself, it is incompatible with the
> >GUS because I have bought the same chips before of a quantity of 6 and
> >they always failed the GUSDRAM test so I tested them in pairs and they
> >were fine until I go pass the 768K bank and I switched the last bank, It
> >always would have a error there so I exchanged all 6 of them and the same
> >thing happened so then I exchanged and tried out the new ones and the same
> >thing still happens so then later I just got other brands, Samsung,
> >Hyundai all mixed together with the original NEC 80ns chips and everything
> >was fine.  The NMBS I had were the same part number as yours rated at
> >80ns.  My dealer where I later turned to for the Samsung and Hyundai chips
> >said the NMBS are not rated at the correct speed because 80ns maybe 120ns
> >compared to other brands.  I hope this helps.  Have a Happy New Year!
> 
>   That is strange.  I am using six of the AA1M304P-07
>                       NMBS 9311 E2
> chips, and they work great.  On the package it said they were 256 x 4, and
> they run at 70ns.
> 
> --
>      Soon to be released shareware:       |     Hank Leukart takes no
> Apogee: R A P T O R : Call of the Shadows |   responsibility for the above
> Epic:   E P I C   B A S E B A L L         |            message.
> id:     ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?       |   "Official" DOOM FAQ Writer
> 
Thats why yours work because 70ns is like 100ns of other manufacturers for the
NMBS brand, the -08 plainly don't work at all unless it's Video Cards
which could care less since it doesn't use the Paging mode..


Cheers,

Vince
hippo@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu
root@kingdom.com
System Administrator/Owner 
Kingdom Communications Inc./California Unix Public Access Systems Inc.
San Francisco, California USA
		  
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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 94 4:55:35 CST
From: chuth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Cornel H. Huth)
Subject: Jim Blakely eats crow

> > or whoever wrote the SDK 2.10 thing. I'm here complaining about the SDK
> > & FTS's position on what "should" be in there.

> Listen, if you don't like the software, then either don't use it, or
> complain by writing a letter, fax, or telephoning the support lines given in
> the manual.

Listen (to yourself). BTW, I'm not asking for software, only adequate
documentation on the patches. FTS told me that "patches are not the
focus of the SDK". You buy that? Do you know anything about patches?

> Some of us *pay* for the priviledge of reading this digest, and your
> derogatory ramblings are inappropiate. Keep them between you and Forte.

Everyone does. And if you think "derogatory ramblings are inappropriate"
here, then why are you carrying on so?

> Incidentally, the header of the message from Forte in the digest gave their
> email address:

My signature has my e-mail address. Next time, feel free to use it. Unlike
Forte, I'll actually respond.

> Many companies do not give/have personal mail addresses, or choose to not
> give them to the outside world, for a number of reasons, almost all of which
> are directly for better customer support.

Many like to dish out 'advice'. It's free! I don't know what you are trying
to say, but I suppose I got what I paid for.
>
> Jim Blakely, Microsoft Certified Professional
> Blakely-Signature Associates
> A Microsoft Solution Provider

Jimbo, next time you don't like what I have to write...well, do whatever you
want. Scream up and down for all I care.

>   DOOM doesn't support IRQs above 9.

Not above 7, either.
--
chh
 Internet: chuth@lonestar.utsa.edu
  Fidonet: 1:387/800.8
	  BBS: The 40th Floor;V32b@1(210)684-8065;M-F:5pm-9am,WE:1p-9a CT

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 16:02:54 -0800 (PST)
From: rush@netcom.com (John Harris)
Subject: Looking for Voyetra (Piano Works) midi driver for GUS!!

Hi, Does any know if there is a Voyetra midi driver for the GUS??
These drivers are used for several dos midi programs including Piano Works
and Band in a box.  I have Piano Works, which is a great piano instruction
program by the way, and I would really like to use it with the GUS midi
port.  I contacted Piano Works, and they told me that they do now write
the midi drivers them selves.  They get them from a company called Voyetra
in New York, which I have not been able to contact.  Right now, I have
a MM401 midi card in my system, just to accomidate Piano Works.  All the
other midi software I have works fine the GUS midi port.  I really need
the mm401 card for something else.  If anyone can help me locate this
Voyetra driver I would really appreciate it.

Thanks,

John

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 13:07:12 -0800 (PST)
From: "George A. Montemayor" <gmontem@eis.calstate.edu>
Subject: Re: MK

> First off, has anyone gotten Mortal Kombat for PC to work completely
> with either sbos 2.10 or mega-em 2.? (whatever the first version w/
> SB support is...)??? It works pretty good with SBOS.. But the
> sounds are just a little off.. At least compred to a real SB.
> Also, with mega-em, I can get the Roalnd support to work, BTW it
> sounds AWESOME, but the SB support won't work. It gives me the
> following message:
> 
> Unsupported Sound Blaster DSP Function: 00
> 
> What does that mean?? Because I would LOVE to use the SB & Roland
> setting. Let me know! I dunno if another version of SBOS would

  Jayeson, can you please fix this problem when you have the time? It 
would make many Mortal Players very happy.

Thanks

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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 93 16:52:11 CST
From: Jason Bottjen <ST32764@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU>
Subject: Mortal Komabat and MEGA-EM in general

First off, has anyone gotten Mortal Kombat for PC to work completely
with either sbos 2.10 or mega-em 2.? (whatever the first version w/
SB support is...)??? It works pretty good with SBOS.. But the
sounds are just a little off.. At least compred to a real SB.
Also, with mega-em, I can get the Roalnd support to work, BTW it
sounds AWESOME, but the SB support won't work. It gives me the
following message:

Unsupported Sound Blaster DSP Function: 00

What does that mean?? Because I would LOVE to use the SB & Roland
setting. Let me know! I dunno if another version of SBOS would
work better or what, but I would appreciate some help.

Jason Bottjen

P.S. I dunno if it is possible to use Ultramid with it or not.
MK has files in the dir of the type *.drv... But those obviously
not ADV files.. Someone with knowhow lemme know.. hehe

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Date: 03 Jan 94 07:50:54 PST
From: pil!zapo@PacBell.COM (Zapo Zapper)
Subject: MPU-401/General MIDI issues

Hi all.  I just went out and picked up a Yamaha PSR-510.  It's a pretty good,
mid-range GM compliant keyboard.  I'm interested (obviously) in hooking it up
to the MIDI port on my GUS.  My question, however, is will games labeled
"General MIDI" and working with Megaem work through the Gravis MIDI port, or
do I need a "true" MPU-401 port? 

Also, I remember some rumors awhile back about MEgaem eventually having
MPU-401 emulation through the port?

Thanks.
=Scott

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 06:22:13 -0600 (CST)
From: David Gardiner <gardiner@cs.umn.edu>
Subject: Power Chords Problem

I recently got a GUS.  In general, it works great.  The one program
that I cannot get any sound out of is Power Chords.  Everything
else seems to work fine: MIDIDEMO.BAT, MODDEMO.BAT, Windows Patch Man, 
Kid Works 2 (a Windows-based children's game that uses the sound board).
Power Chords. Tried demo, tutorial, main program.  
Opened instrument window and clicked with right button.  No sound.

Setup:
  Hardware: Dell 310: 386-20, 4 MB RAM
  Gravis Ultrasound: 256K memory, v2.06
  MS-DOS 6.0
  Non-windows, SBOS not loaded: 615K conventional memory free
  Windows 3.1: 386 Enhanced Mode, 4,903 KB Free, 86% Free system resources.

Any suggestions?

Thanks.

David Gardiner
Teknos and
University of Minnesota Computer Science Department

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Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 00:16:45 -0700
From: aqwhiteh@acs.ucalgary.ca
Subject: The 7th Guest and Ultrasound

Hi! I know the 7th Guest has been out for a while so I'll make this one brief:
Is there a special way to set up the game for a GUS and how do you do it?
I have the t7gfix3.zip file from epas, but I can't seem to figure out exactly what I should be getting from it.
Thanx in advance.
Andrew Whitehead    aqwhiteh@acs.ucalgary.ca

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