GUS Daily Digest            Fri, 22 Apr 94  9:37 PST     Volume 12: Issue  22 

Today's Topics:
						 "miles" drivers SDK
				   32channel doom @  stealth pro..
						Bad review of the GUS
					 Diamond Stealth Pro and GUS
					   GUS Daily Digest V12 #15
				  GUS Daily Digest V12 #21 (3 msgs)
							  GUS stuff
				  megaem & novell/dr: strange combo!
						  PC Format address
						 Sound in Encarta '94
							 SuperUnknown
					 The G-List **ANNOUNCEMENT**
						Trying out new patches
		   what is redbook & reading digital audio samples

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 20:58:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Shane Conder <saconder@olympus.net>
Subject: "miles" drivers SDK

I heard there was an SDK for these miles (or however it's spelled)
available at archive.orst.edu.

Does anyone know the filename and/or the directory where this could be found?

Thanks,

Shane  [saconder@sq.olympus.net]

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Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 15:06:30 CST
From: mcavity@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU
Subject: 32channel doom @  stealth pro..

To : The wise and wonderful Phat:

Well If you look at my message i did state that all 32 channels would probably
never be used.. but I do know that after installing a meg there was some 
improvemt on doom with the gun and the I pumped the sound all the way up to 32
 and I got much improvemet in the sound [i had drum beats befor but not a quick
repeat beat bump-bump-bump verry fast.. I had one thunk.]  I realy belive that
the doom sound engin is just mixing more sounds..Things do not cut out like
they did before. infact NOTHING ever cuts out anymore for me...I hear the
chainsaw while bumping into a wall with monsters attacking at the same time..
realy ! I'm not joking! I -PERSONALY- have no more sound cut outs in large
fights.. and i'm on a 386-40 [soon to be overclocked... ;-) where that da##
100mhz crystal...]   Anyway I get a definate improvement so the rest is up to
you... I dont think it is the gus, I think it is the doom sound engine mixing.
Mcavity@panam.edu
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stealth pro
*******************
	To the person with a stealth pro who wants a gus.. I recomend that you
FIRST try out the gus with your stealth.. It might work for you.. [If it wont
you will know after swiching videomodes a lot... try the noton video tester and
run through all the modes.. If it holds on that it should work for you...You
may also have a diffrent revison card than me..
Let me know how it comes out..
Mcavity@panam.edu

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Date: Thu, 21 Apr 94 19:51:23 EST
From: Greg <BGUZ@musicb.mcgill.ca>
Subject: Bad review of the GUS

The May 1994 issue of Windows Sources Magazine does not rate
the GUS very highly. The magazine performed 3 recording and
playback tests, including frequency response at 44khz, total
harmonic distortion and signal to noise ratio. Although the
article claimed it was testing the GUS MAX, I believe that they
were testing the GUS with the 16 bit daughterboard (unless the
GUS MAX is really a GUS with the daughterboard).
The following is what the magazine had to say about the GUS (MAX):
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"Pros- Comprehensive software bundle
Cons- Instrument Samples need 5.5MB of hard disk space
The Gravis Ultrasound MAX, from Advanced Gravis ($249), follows
some trends and bucks others. Like its rivals, it records 16-bit
sound, but it uses its own GF1 synthesizer. And instead of storing
digital samples in ROM, it stores the waveform patches on disk and
loads them into its on-board RAM as needed. It is also the only sound
board reviewed that uses a daughterboard to perform its 16bit waveform
recording; without it you can only record at 8 bits. Unfortunately,
its poor signal-to-noise ratio resulted in audible distorion and
hum during recording tests. Although the test unit was a preproduction
model, the problem resulting from its design is likely to remain. On
the positive side, this board comes with software that outshines that
offered by most its rivals; and it's low cost. However, even its
excellent bundle isn't compensation enough- not when audio quality
counts."
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The GUS rated last in the magazine's frequency response test at 44khz
and last in it's signal to noise ratio test. The total harmonic
distortion test could not be done on the GUS.
The other cards that were tested in the review were:
Best Data Products SONIQ SOUND, Cardinal DIGITAL SOUND PRO 16 PLUS,
Creative Labs SOUND BLASTER 16 SCSI-2 with WAVE BLASTER, Diamond
Computer SONIC SOUND, IBM AUDIOVATION ADAPTER, Logitech SOUNDMAN WAVE,
MediaMagic DSP-16 PLUS, Orchid Technology SOUNDWAVE 32 and Turtle Beach
MULTISOUND.

The winner of the test was the Turtle Beach Multisound which the author
wrote that the "quality of the waveform audio is unbeaten, and no
other board reviewed here comes close to matching the concert like
music that it is capable of producing."
The author also liked the new SoundMan Wave which uses the OPL4 chip.

Please note that this is a magazine dedicated to windows and all tests
were done in the Windows environment. The tests were performed
using the recording applet bundled with each sound card.

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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 12:55:36 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Rune Karlsen <runek@ifi.uio.no>
Subject: Re: Diamond Stealth Pro and GUS

>Somone in the #20 digest (mcavity@panam1.panam.edu) mention, kinda to the
>side, that the GUS did not work with the Diamond Stealth Pro.
>Is this a known fact?  If so why?
>Could the person who stated this please explain in a little more detail.
>A friend of mine wants a GUS and has that video card.
>Shane  [saconder@sq.olympus.net]

[ *yawn* - Linux stuff for those that are interested ]
 ----------------------------------------------------
Well, I bought a Diamond Stealth PRO (S3-86c928/ VLB/ 2MB VRAM)
 with my computer.
(Not a very good choice considering I was going to use it with Linux)
At first I could only use the XS3-server with Linux
 (albeit @90MHz in 1024x768).
But it was very unstable.
Enter XFree 2.1; I now run XFree 2.1 @112MHz dot-clock in 1280x960
 (and 1280x1024) - there are some work-arounds ..
(I am using the "setclk" utility to set the 2nd clock to 112 Mhz
 after starting X, it starts at 110MHz - the limit for XFree2.1 S3-driver
 for me)

[ GUS specific stuff ]
 --------------------
A month ago I bought a GUS (the "sane" thing to get, when I wanted sound
 under Linux). It's rev. 3.7 of the card.
And it works perfectly in both MS-DOS 6.2 and Linux. No problems.
Raptor in 8 channels and DOOM in 20 over TCP-network; no difficulties.
I also use the Adaptec AHA1542C with 2 SCSI drives and a floppy.
That is the only problem I ran into - DMA channel conflicts and IO-ADDR
 problems (my AHA1542 is at 0x330 which clashes with Roland MIDI support
 in some programs - MegaEm fixes this in most cases  .)

I can't vouch for MS-Windows since I deleted it upon installing Linux .)
But I don't think your friend should run into any problems using the GUS
 with Diamond Stealth - if he hasn't got a very special setup.

The rest of my setup is:
 486dx/33 EISA VLB   (Hint Caesear chipset)
 16MB RAM, 100+240MB SCSI
 EIZO/NANAO F560iW-TCO 17"
 (heartily recommended - will do wonders for any pair of eyes .)

 "IT-pack5" multi-function IO-card (16550C UARTS)
 Logitech Mouseman

[ A-bit-on-the-side ]
 -------------------
BTW does anyone know if it's possible to upgrade
	5volt CPU-socketed motherboards to the new 3.3volt DX4s ? ,)
	(perhaps via some add-on to the motherboard ? ,)

------------
Rune Karlsen (runek@ifi.uio.no  or runek@eldarin.uio.no)

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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 09:09:36 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Mikko Rauhala <mjr@lyseo.otol.fi>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V12 #15

> Jayeson is now working for Gravis and the program is free!  It supports
> Sound Blaster digital sound, and he is currentally working on a version
> that will work for protected mode games!

That'd be great! But just to be safe from major disappointments, is this 
a rumour or something rather than fact? If not, how's the situation with 
the program, and will it be priced as well as the current version? ;)

	 - Mjr

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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 94 08:15:27 +0300
From: Yossi Oren <LIOREN1@WEIZMANN.weizmann.ac.il>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V12 #21

>Very likely, you have to do what I did to get Encarta '94 to work
>properly.  You have to get the Video For Windows 1.1a RunTime update.
>It's a 1.3MB download from Microsoft's TOLL BBS, or you might also be able
>to find it on epas or some mirror.  I was not getting sound in certain
>places on Encarta, one of which was all the startup music and such.  The
>"vfwrt11a.exe" (pretty sure that's what it was called) file, once unpacked
>and installed from, fixed everything.  Yossi told me and someone else
>about this a while back.

No need to pay money for this file - MS has an FTP site (ftp.microsoft.com)
with full support and ALL of its files on board.  The VFW runtime is in
softlib/mslfiles... DON'T DIR!  There are 14,000 files there!  The file name
is VFW-something.EXE, but may have been trimmed to 6 characters to fit on CIS.
Yossi.

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||Bitnet EMail:LIOREN1@WEIZMANN                      || with the Golan ||
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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 94 08:18:17 +0300
From: Yossi Oren <LIOREN1@WEIZMANN.weizmann.ac.il>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V12 #21

>Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 17:14:54 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Shane Conder <saconder@olympus.net>
>Subject: Focal Point 3D sound
>
>I have a demonstration for this type of sound.  I can't seem to hear any
>difference, except volume changes.  I definitely can't pin point the
>sound, other than left, right, or somewhere in between.

The way FP3D is designed REQUIRES headphones, because you can't have crossover
from left to right.  Use headphones and it should work.  Also note that since
the on-screen head is FACING you, everything is flipped.
It worked quite well for me.
Yossi.

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||Bitnet EMail:LIOREN1@WEIZMANN                      || with the Golan ||
||Drag yer damn objects around.  I've got work to do.|| Heights!       ||
+====================================================++================++

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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 07:57:50 -0400 (edt)
From: Josh Rodman <wuti@dorsai.dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V12 #21

About getting the Microsoft Encarta to work, you are probable better off 
checking ftp.microsoft.com before calling their BBS.
-Josh

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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 01:27:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Cottleston Pie <yaga@u.washington.edu>
Subject: GUS stuff

First, and importantly, is to subscribe to the GUS daily digest.  Any and 
all problems can be solved here.  To subscribe, send a message with 
"subscribe" as the subject to:

	gus-general-request@mail.orst.edu

It will tell you everything else in an automated response.

Now, the new software can be ftp'ed from:

	archive.orst.edu (the main/fastest place)

If you don't know how to ftp, come see me and I'll show you.  It's really 
not hard.  Trust me.  ;)

chris

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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 22:35:20
From: Tom.Van.Overbeke@f1906.n291.z2.fidonet.org (Tom Van Overbeke)
Subject: megaem & novell/dr: strange combo!

Hi,

I purchased a GUS 1Mb a few weeks ago and have a few unresolved problems:
(my setup is a 486 DX-40, 8 Mb Ram, Novell Dos 7,Mitsumi 2xspeed,nuvo
14k4)

1)I can't get mega-em to work with the emm386.exe from novell dos: gives
me some error about: EMM unrecognised internal structure or sth. If I try
it with novell's HIMEM.SYS and with the option -NOEMS, it says that it
can't find any EMS!!
I managed to get it to work though, but at a  huge cost, here's what I
did: I tried using the emm386.sys from dr dos 6 (in novell dos 7, that is)
, and this worked. BUT (here it comes), this combination has some VERY
SERIOUS bug in it. I could succesfully load mega-em, and then I tried
emuset -? (just to see the available options). Guess what: lots and lots
of lost clusters and crosslinked files and whatever. I actually had to
reformat my dos partition, because there were files that could in no way
be removed. Has anyone heard of this before? I think this is a serious bug
that should need instant correction! (I can reliably reproduce this
situation BTW)
Does anyone know how to use megaem with novell without using an external
memory manager (such as Qemm or sth. similar)?
It does work in DR DOS6, but I don't like using a bootfloppy just for
this.

2) I have had occasional errors when checking the DRAM. This seemed to
happen mostly with IRQ set to 7, but I have known it to happen at IRQ 5
too. Problem is, It seems to be sporadic and always at a different ram
position. Therefore, I am not really sure if the problem is the ram, maybe
it is an interaction between irq settings or addresses or sth, i dunno. 
Should I take these failures serious? So far, I haven't heard any strange
sounds from my gus, all sounds perfect, midi-files, doom (obligatory :)
and so on...
Right now, I am using irq 5 and the failure error seems to have stopped.

Thanks for bearing with me. :)



 --- Gated from FidoNet at 2:29/777  <Uucp@steam.fidonet.org> ---

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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 94 11:23:27 BST
From: Mcgarry D P <mcgadj@essex.ac.uk>
Subject: PC Format address

I seem to remember someone wanting the address for PC Format (UK magazine)
a while back (which was posted by someone else).

If it's any use, they can now be contacted by e-mail on:
future@cix.compulink.co.uk

Dave.

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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 10:10:22 GMT
From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
Subject: Sound in Encarta '94

Some comments yesterday about needing a patch to make Encarta '94
play sound properly on the GUS.

I have had no problems with an Encarta '94 purchased in the UK a few
weeks ago. WAVs, MIDs, and sound with animation and video all
working fine.

For the MIDs (mainly National Anthems of the World as far
as I can tell) to sound decent, you really need to disable channels
11-16 in your MIDI Mapper Setup, since the MIDs are scored either for
extended (channels 1-10) or extended (channels 13-16) MIDI, and not
for general MIDI (channels 1-16). If you leave all channels enabled,
then you will get notes being duplicated, with potential for strange
interference with each other, and also a percussion track on channel
16 being rendered on the piano!

I see that Encarta installs some sort of Sound Compression Driver.
Does this mean that some of its WAVs are compressed? Certainly, there
are some for which Sound Recorder does not display a waveform, and
does not offer Reverse or its other few effects in the menu. It looks
to me as though some of the WAVs are in separate files on the CD, while
others are perhaps buried within the main Encyclopaedia file itself.

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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 14:21 GMT+0100
From: RTHI@btma74.se.bel.alcatel.be
Subject: SuperUnknown

I sounds very good :-), but I cannot SEE anything after this "yellow man" :-(
the screen is black and only in the corners of the screen I can see
some blue squares.

So here is the question, what's going on....

Roland

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Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 14:49:35 -0300 (ADT)
From: Jurassic Mark <markus@info.umoncton.ca>
Subject: The G-List **ANNOUNCEMENT**

GUS day people,

	For those of you who volonteered to take over the G-List when I
leave, I give you all a pat in the back.  I really appreciate the concern
you showed to let the G-List live.  

	I have come to a decision for the G-List's new father.  His name
is Nick Tucker.  For those who knows The Ultrasound Sound Source magazine
(TUSS( knows him as the author of it.  His experience with the Gravis
Ultrasound card goes as far as the early days when he got the developper
version of the card.  He is also a very active GUS supporter on America
On-Line. 

	The list will still be posted at the usual places (Usenet,
GAMES-L, IBMSND-L, etc...) plus maybe other places.  The G-List will now
be part of the Ultrasound Sound Source.

	The G-List will now move to "gravislist@aol.com".  Please, take
good note of the address as I will no longer receive submissions and my
account will soon disappear.  That address is not fingerable, by the way.
Starting now, the G-List has a new father.

	That's it for me, friends.  Hope I did my share for the GUS world.
That was a fun party.  I'll keep on GUSsing somewhere on this planet.  :) 
If everything works fine for me, I'll be back as a system administrator.

		 Marc Y. Paulin - Jurassic Mark (Usenet) - J-Mark (IRC)
			  Graduating CS student in search of a job...
   - markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (Talk 'n Mail) - (506)856-9518 -
 Inertia Player Beta Tester - Author of the G-List for Ultrasound owners

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Date: Thu, 21 Apr 94 15:48:34 EDT
From: jasonr@Newbridge.COM (Jason Rusmisel)
Subject: Trying out new patches

Hi GUSsers:

I've ftped a lot of new patches and I'm trying to find a way to try them out. 
I would like to be able to compare two patches for example when replacing some
of the gravis patches.  Is there a way to load up an arbitrary patch and play it;  either in DOS or Windoze?  

A second question:

How do I make use of the patch bank features I see mentioned in ultrasnd.ini?
I've made up new patch banks but I can't get any of the Windoze apps to 
give me an option to switch banks.  Can anyone give me some advice here too!?


Thanks.
Jason Rusmisel.

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Date: Thu, 21 Apr 94 21:13:04 -0400
From: "Momentary language, sexual situations" <dantonio@tay2.dec.com>
Subject: Re: what is redbook & reading digital audio samples

For what it's worth, the Tosh 3401B will deliver Digital Data over the SCSI
bus and there are a couple programs that will write this data to a .WAV
file. A BIG .WAV file, I might add...:-) But at least it lets one get
around those stupid "anti-copying" codes...

Check for programs called cddaread.zip and cdda09a.zip

DDA

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