Ultrasound Daily Digest     Sat May  8 00:07     Volume 3: Issue  38  

Today's Topics:
							  7th Guest?
					  A NEW CHRIS.MID (sorta) !
				  ANYONE GOT AN INDEX TO EPAS MIDS?
					   Any UNIX drivers yet???
			 Blah, Blah, Blah on and on about John Smith
		Does anyone have the E-mail address for Software Co.'s
							   EOB III
					   Ideas for SYSEX patches
						John Smith and E-Mail
					Long netaddress for John Smith
							  midi sites
					  Prince of Persia 2 anyone?
		 Problems? Read the FAQ and stay up with the digest.
						Static Pop on my GUS.
						   Strike Commander
					  ULTRASOUND DAILY DIG  1/2
					  ULTRASOUND DAILY DIG  2/2
		  workaround for SBOS's LOADSBOS Interrupt time out.

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Fri, 7 May 1993 09:39:25 -0500 (EST)
From: sjm@se01.elk.miles.com (Scott Mark)
Subject: 7th Guest?
Message-ID: <9305071439.AA08835@se01.elk.miles.com>

Has anyone played 7th Guest with their GUS?

I'm wondering if SBOS is going to handle everything.

Scott Mark      (219) 262-7452      8:00 - 4:30 EST
sjm@se01.elk.miles.com

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Date: 7 May 1993   02:05:12 PST
From: chrisw <chrisw@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: A NEW CHRIS.MID (sorta) !
Message-ID: <9305070908.AA23044@leland.Stanford.EDU>

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Just posted up the following on epas:

*** Chrisnot.mid ***  (previously Funk1.mid)

Well, I can't quite work out what to do with the half written Chris5.mid,
so I thought that this might keep you entertained in the meantime.

It's not one of mine (it's got a copyright on it from Voyetra so I guess it
comes with some Voyetra sequencer package). But since someone else had 
posted it on epas anyway (what, you hadn't noticed?!?), I thought I might 
at least fix it up for the Gus. 

I picked some patches for it, added some percussion and a screaming sawtooth 
solo, changed its shape a little, and did the usual Chris.mid fake effects.  

The result is pretty good. (Wish it WAS one of mine now ...)

It uses about 520k of 16 bit samples, so it might even fit on a 256k GUS in
noisy mode. (Still, why not do yourself a favour and upgrade, huh?). Not
sure how it's going to run on slower machines, though, cause it's missing the
odd note on my 486dx33 in typical GUS fashion.

Anyway, hope you like it.

Chris (chrisw@leland.stanford.edu).

P.S. Might remix it in the morning when I can use speakers rather
than headphones (don't want to antagonise the neighbours too much ...).

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Date: 7 May 1993   16:56:29 PST
From: chrisw <chrisw@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: ANYONE GOT AN INDEX TO EPAS MIDS?
Message-ID: <9305080001.AA02271@leland.Stanford.EDU>

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Pretty well what the subject says. I'm after some files that sound like they
could be O.K. on the gus if they were fiddled with a bit. Problem is, 
everything's in these archives that all contain the same renditions of 
row, row, row your boat orchestrated for sitar and tuba and I really
don't have the patience to look through it all.

Prefer an index with marks out of 10 for potential.

Or even just write to me saying what your favourite file that kind of sounds 
alright but can probably sound better on the GUS is. All shapes and sizes
considered.

Chris.

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Date: Fri, 7 May 93 7:47:28 CDT
From: dave@holl.com (David Vrona)
Subject: Any UNIX drivers yet???
Message-ID: <m0nrRpo-000SQKC@hp1.holl.com>

It's been a while since I last checked so here I am again.

Has anyone been working on a UNIX driver for the GUS?

dave
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Date: Fri, 7 May 1993 10:16:29 +0501 (EDT)
From: Gunnar Swanson <gunnar@gibbs.oit.unc.edu>
Subject: Blah, Blah, Blah on and on about John Smith
Message-ID: <Pine.3.05.9305071029.A15159-c100000@gibbs.oit.unc.edu>

Well fellow GUSers its me again (I know, SIGH! :))

	I just wanted to explain a litle bit more my purpose in being so
bucolic and effusive in my criticism which some of you feel is
unwarranted.  For those of you upset by my remarks read my first letter
again and then read my second letter.

		My point has been to get Gravis to notice that some of their customers
are'nt being satisfied.  If there is a problem then we should speak up.  Alot
of people complained and I took it upon myself to bring attention to the
matter LOUD and CLEAR.  I like Gravis.   I like their products and I want
them to succeed.  However, they cannot do so without feedback.  
	
	As for those who say be patient quality versus quantity etc.  My
retort is that we should not even be entertaining this notion, that is not the
issue.  The point is you can and must have both, successful companies do.

	For those of you who have had no problems with GUS, or figured it
out on your own I say, great, I applaud you.  I have been able to figure
out most problems on my own too.  I take the initiative to read the manuals
and give things a try.  I read the FAQ and follow others advice on the
digest.  I am not the helpless type.  But others my not be as gifted with
computers and need help with "those damn boxes", and Gravis has an
obligation to help them promptly and courtously.  Those who doubt it
better believe that people will go else where to get their needs met, say
Creative Labs.  None of us want that!

	Well I hope I made this muddle clear.  I am trying to help Gravis
and all of us GUSers who are holding out for the Wave Table Synthesis
Paradise to come (I hope).  My point is to let Gravis know we are not all
happy in GUS land.  Finally I believe that my point has been affirmed we
did get a response on the digest from John (Thank YOU! I mean that!) and
we have had a lively discussion on the topibc of customer service and tits
importance.

Thank you all very much, enough said.

Gunnar Swanson gunnar@gibbs.oit.unc.edu

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Date: Fri, 7 May 1993 10:56:01 +0501 (EDT)
From: Gunnar Swanson <gunnar@gibbs.oit.unc.edu>
Subject: Does anyone have the E-mail address for Software Co.'s
Message-ID: <Pine.3.05.9305071001.A15159-9100000@gibbs.oit.unc.edu>

Dear GUSers,  

	I sent this awhile ago and no response.  Again is there anybody
there who can help me please please with sugar on top :}.  Thanx


I want to send Lucas Arts, Microprose, and Accolade E-mail notes about
games I have and to lobby for GUS patches for games that I have and future
GUS support.  Does anyone have a list of addresses that they can share?  If
so please send them to 

			gunnar@gibbs.oit.unc.edu




Very Greatfull

Gunnar

end.

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Date: Fri, 7 May 93 22:31:18 MES
From: fischer@tmpmbx.netmbx.de (Axel Fischer)
Subject: EOB III
Message-ID: <m0nrZ4h-00020tC@tmpmbx.netmbx.de>

Hi,
just bought Eye Of The Beholder III and it works perfect with SBOS 2.04.
No switches are required.

-Axel

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Date: Fri, 7 May 1993 11:34:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Dark Doc <Morgan_Stair@dl5000.bc.edu>
Subject: Ideas for SYSEX patches
Message-ID: <Pine.3.03.9305071124.A7465-9100000@dlws9.bc.edu>

A big advantage for patch loading is for sound effects.  Put a gunshot
("bang", not "wheeeee"), a laser blast, a grenade, a scream, and plane in
patches, and you're all set for some GREAT no cpu sound effects for arcade
games... 

Now THAT would be a FUN demo... Okay you can throw in some music too :-)

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Date: Fri, 7 May 93 11:41 EDT
From: "Matthew E. Bernold" <MEB117@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject: John Smith and E-Mail
Message-ID: <9305071540.AA28855@orca.es.com>

I don't know why people haven't gotten responses from John Smith, but I've
sent five or six letters to him since the @gravis.com site went up, with
the most recent one sent 3 days before the BBS went down for the move to the
new building.  Every one of them has been answered within a week or so, give
or take a day or two.

John Smith has been very helpful to me, and very responsive to my mail.  Is
it possible that there is some sort of problem with the mail link to
Gravis.com, and he just didn't get your messages?  Or maybe the replies
were lost in the bit bucket.  Anyway, I know from personal experience that
he does answer his E-mail.

	   Matthew E. Bernold             MEB117@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
		 <<APOCALYPSE>>                  meb@wilbur.cac.psu.edu

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Date: Fri, 7 May 93 7:48:27 CDT
From: ibmpa!hartmann.austin.ibm.com!lance@ibminet.awdpa.ibm.com (Lance Hartmann)
Subject: Long netaddress for John Smith
Message-ID: <9305071248.AA13362@hartmann.austin.ibm.com>

JOHN.SMITH@GRAVIS.COM wrote:

[STUFF DELETED]
> 
> I'm reading all of you loud and clear and have been responding to EVERYONE's
> messages.  And I'm not just saying that. <g>  You can email me at
> sysop@gravis.com, postmaster@gravis.com, tech@gravis.com, or even
> john.smith@gravis.com.  All mail goes directly to me.  I usually respond to
[ ... ]
> be a routing problem with long addresses?  TBBS (our BBS software) can only
> handle up to 60 characters I think.  Anyone out there with a REAL long address
> I could try this out with?  If so, EMAIL me at john.smith@gravis.com so we can
> check it out.

John, I've sent you an email, but am posting here as well in the event
my message does not reach you.  As you can see, I'm one of those persons
who has to bounce mail off another mail server so I have a looooooooong
netaddress (49 chars):

	lance%hartmann.austin.ibm.com@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com


Lance Hartmann (lance%hartmann.austin.ibm.com@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com)
			   Yes, that IS a '%' (percent sign) in my network address.
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All statements, comments, opinions, etc. herein reflect those of the author
and shall NOT be misconstrued as those of IBM or anyone else for that matter.

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Date: Sat, 8 May 93 5:07:01 EST
From: adrianr@ecr.mu.oz.au (Adriano_Ennio RAIOLA)
Subject: midi sites
Message-ID: <9305071907.25268@ecr.mu.oz.au>

To the idiot who posted all those supposed MIDI sites by doing an archie
match to the string 'midi' .. most of those sites and directories were
for midi software for amigas or macintosh's or whatever.. and very few
were actual sites containing midi files..

moron.. ho well

-- 
| adrianr@ecr.mu.oz.au --------| Adrian -aka- Plugger | *  * *  *   *  |  _/_\
| adrianr@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au -| What time is love?   | *_*  * *_  *_  | / OZ |
| adrianr@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au --| I think its gonna be | * *  *   *   * | \__-_/
| -- I want more accounts! ----| long, long time.     | *  * *  *   *  |     v

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Date: Fri, 7 May 93 19:54:07 MET DST
From: (FunkyTrip) zonnevel@dutiws.TWI.TUDelft.NL
Subject: Prince of Persia 2 anyone?
Message-ID: <9305071754.AA07039@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl>

Well I got Prince of Persia 2 and tried to get it working with sbos.
I tried out all settings (o1..3 x1..3) with ver 2.04 
if anyone has already got it working could they please tell me what settings
you used.
The problems seems to be that after playing one sample the next sample just
hangs the game.

BTW are there any patches or things for Xwing? I think I read that some
people had trouble with it? (Haven't encountered any yet)

Greetings from a funkee dude ..

 'Peace Y'all. I'm at:   zonnevel@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl    YO  Peace Increase
 'Freedom is free of the need to be free' - George Clinton YO     from me 
 'With love there is no death' - Prince                    YO    FunkyTrip 
YOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYO

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Date: Fri, 7 May 1993 10:46:33 +0501 (EDT)
From: Gunnar Swanson <gunnar@gibbs.oit.unc.edu>
Subject: Problems? Read the FAQ and stay up with the digest.
Message-ID: <Pine.3.05.9305071033.A15159-9100000@gibbs.oit.unc.edu>

Those with Strike Commander problems you are not alone.  Check out I
believe digest Vols 32-33 for suggestions.

Star Control people.  The problems with sound quality arise if you have
any RAM on you GUS card.  This is do to a buggy Developers Kit sent to
Accolade by Gravis (OOPS :{).  Suggestion run a 669 file or the gustest.exe
program with /z  [ gustest /z ]  Someone claimed that this worked for
them.  

Good Luck everybody


Gunnar Swanson  gunnar@gibbs.oit.unc.edu

end.

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Date: Fri, 7 May 1993 10:21:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Go <bgo@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Static Pop on my GUS.
Message-ID: <Pine.3.05.9305071059.B24231-a100000@sciborg>

Well, last night I left my sound system on hooked up to my GUSs unamped
port.  My stereo had a huge static pop every 10 minutes and it drove me
crazy all night.  I unplugged my GUS from my Stereo this morning and it
stopped.  Could this be a hardware problem and is there a GUS diagnostic
program.  Dram checker passes everything.  Could this also be the cause of
my Star Con II problems?

Brian Go             bgo@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca         Chemistry at Waterloo
Just Remember,  Midnight Oil,  Concert Hall, April 13, 1993,  10:30pm
In my world, there are sorrows. I'd rather drown in happiness...
				   <Nothing Lost and Nothing Gained....Midnight Oil>

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Date: Fri, 7 May 1993 17:15:45 -0700
From: Eric N. Liao <liaoe@aero.org>
Subject: Strike Commander
Message-ID: <199305080015.AA08090@aerospace.aero.org>

BAM!  I like John Smith's comeback.  Right when everyone thinks he's gone, or
no longer responds to e-mail, WHAM!  He leaves a message saying he's alive and
well.

Okay, for you Strike Commander fans.  The speech-pak only adds speech to the
actual combat (in-flight). When you communicate, you should hear your wing
man's acknwoledgeent.  If you can't hear them, go to ALT-O, and check the
appropriate settings.

If you turn off music, guess what?  You get "engine noise."  This engine noise
sounds alright on a Soundblaster, but SBOS seems to mangle it.  The gun-noise
is also quite mangled.  It's not supposed to be high-pitched and screetchy,
it's supposed to sound like a "repeating drum."  That's the best I can describe
it.

Anyone notcied that Strike Commander uses .adv files for sound drivers?  I
tried to make SC support the SBPro, but it doesn't seem to recognize it.  On
my friend's SB-16ASP, the SBPro setting just reverts back to Soundblaster.

As a matter of fact, I deleted all the .adv files, yet Strike Commander produced
it's music perfectly fine without the drivers.  What are they there for?  Just
decoration?  Why can't I just rename the sbfm.adv file and replace it with the
sbprofm file from some other game (which also uses .adv files) ?

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Date: Fri, 07 May 93 15:52:00 
From: john.smith@gravis.com
Subject: ULTRASOUND DAILY DIG  1/2
Message-ID: <9305071552.A7022wk@gravis.com>

				   John.Smith and the no mail blues
							  John Smith
			  John Smith and internet COMPUSErve account

Looks like I'm popular all of a sudden. ;-)

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>Date: Wed, 5 May 1993 12:00:44 +0501 (EDT)
>From: Gunnar Swanson <gunnar@gibbs.oit.unc.edu>
>Subject: John.Smith and the no mail blues
>Message-ID: <Pine.3.05.9305051244.A11956-b100000@gibbs.oit.unc.edu>
>
>Dear Fellow Gusers
>
>        There has been alot of talk about John Smith and others at the
>Gravis HQ not returning mail to important questions.  I have even sent
>mail to specific people at Gravis.com and I get no response.  Now I am
>not the pushy sort and figure people are busy but after reading all the
>notes of others who are experiencing the same problem I felt compelled
>to write.

Ok, I've responded to this in the OS/2 mailing list but here we go
again.  My favorite type of mail to respond too. ;-)

>I am mad as hell.  It seems from reading the digest that those who read
>and post on it are a growing and very loyal customer base.  We have
>happily waited through screwup after screwup on the SBOS.  We have put
>up with one problem after another and lost much sleep trying to get our
>GUSes to work.  We [I] have spent gobbs of money calling the Gravis BBS
>in Canada to get the latest news on the GUS.  Often it was wrong.

Actually I haven't heard of too many people who had to stay up all night
to get the GUS card to work.  Most people, me included, have stayed up
all night playing, tweaking, experimenting with the GUS card.  Two
different things.

>Well, Gravis Tech that is no way to run a business if you cheese enough
>of us loyalists off long enough we like the American Whigs of the
>Revolutionary War are going to tell you to go to hell.  There is no
>reason that you cannot ansewer our questions and queries.  I do not
>want to hear "Oh most of the questions we get are a waste of time"  X
>WRONG ANSEWER Rule #1 in business school is The Customer is ALWAYS
>RIGHT.  We know that Gravis is a small company but we spend our money
>to keep you employed.  I for one want ansewers to my questions in a
>timely fashion.

Who is trying to cheese anyone.  We are all working towards the same
goal, making the GUS a superior card.  You give us valuable feed back
that we use to make a better product.  Where else does such a large
number of users have such a direct and immediate influence over a
product?  We hear complaints about SBOS with a game, we fix it.  You say
a patch doesn't sound right, we correct it.  The windows install is to
hard, we make it easier.

>Fellow GUSers I propose that all of you who have experienced a similar
>delay in questions to your problems write in over and over until you do
>get one. Each time demanding satisfaction and more professionalism.
>For $140.00 that is the least you deserve.

I doubt that would work very well.  All it'll succeed in doing is taking
up more of my time.  Which means I have less time to actually fix the
problems.

>One more time Gravis people I hope you are listening we are the ones
>who make it possible to have a job.  Listen to us, be reasonable to us
>and we will make you fat with our cash.  Otherwise you'll wind up like
>IBM or NeXT or worse.

We hear all of you loud and clear!

>One unhappy camper.

Really, I never noticed <g>


And now for some defense......

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>Date: 05 May 1993 10:14:56 -0600 (MDT)
>From: "Keith J. Ball" <KEITH@ZENO.MSCD.EDU>
>Subject: John Smith
>Message-ID: <01GXT9FZWO1I938GK4@ZENO.MSCD.EDU>
>I have had real good luck sending questions to John Smith on
>compuserve.

Thank you!

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>Date: Wed, 5 May 93 15:10:55 MDT
>From: Stuart Yoshida <yoshida@elektra.fc.hp.com>
>Subject: Responses from Gravis SysOp
>Message-ID: <9305052110.AA22602@elektra.fc.hp.com>
>

(Continued to next message)
---
 ~ QMPro 1.02 05-8925 ~ People say I'm indecisive.  Am I?  I don't know.

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Date: Fri, 07 May 93 15:52:02 
From: john.smith@gravis.com
Subject: ULTRASOUND DAILY DIG  2/2
Message-ID: <9305071552.A7023wk@gravis.com>

(Continued from previous message)

>  A couple of people have asked whether or not John Smith (the Gravis
>  BBS SysOp) ever answers his mail.  My answer is:  yes.  I've been
>  successful 3 out of 3 times, and have also received unsolicited
>  answers to questions I posed to the Net via the GUS digest.
>  Your mileage may vary, of course.
>  Peace,
>--
>  Stuart Yoshida
>  Internet: yoshida@elektra.fc.hp.com
>   Voice: (303) 229-2324

Thank you!


Anyways.  I hope we can now end this thread/flame that has taken place
over the last few days and get back to some real GUS questions/support.
Remember, we can work together to make a better product.  Lets keep the
ideas, and suggestions flowing.

Thanx.

John
---
 ~ QMPro 1.02 05-8925 ~ People say I'm indecisive.  Am I?  I don't know.

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Date: Fri, 07 May 93 06:00:32 EDT
From: Tad Simmons <SIMMONS@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu>
Subject: workaround for SBOS's LOADSBOS Interrupt time out.
Message-ID: <9305071013.AA24752@orca.es.com>

Well, although going to a 486 didn't get rid of the problem, it did lessen
it somewhat.  (When loading SBOS, I keep getting an Interrupt time out during
LOADSBOS.)
But, I found a way to get around it:
In the .BAT file find where it says LOADSBOS.
insert :loop _before_ the loadsbos line.
insert if errorlevel 1 goto loop _after_ the loadsbos line.
Summary:
  :loop
  loadsbos
  if errorlevel 1 goto loop

What this does is try running LOADSBOS again if it fails.  It works for me,
but it occasionally take quite a few loops to finally load.  Anyway,
I thought I'd toss it out for your illumination.  Also, if this problem is
widespread enough (I think it's just my abysmally slow HD) Dave might want to
toss it into the FAQ (btw, I scanned it and didn't see anything about this.
If it _is_ there, I apologize for your time...)  Granted, it doesn't REALLY
solve the problem, and if the problem is bad enough it will just loop forever,
but it's the best I've come up with so far...

Submitted for your perusal,
-Tad

Tad Simmons, Computer Operator (I feed printers and clean their cages.)
University of Central Florida in Orlando, Florida (a suburb of Disney World)
"I cancelled my subscription to reality.  I never used the damn thing anyway."
SIMMONS@UCF1VM.BITNET    |Owner and general trouble-maker, err... -shooter for
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