GUS Daily Digest            Thu, 7 Apr 94  9:37 PST      Volume 12: Issue   7 

Today's Topics:
							Bought a GUS!
			  General MIDI xtals/GUS EMulators/SB AWE32
					GUS & Carmen SanDiego Deluxe.
						  gus and qemm386 V7
				   GUS Daily Digest V12 #6 (3 msgs)
						Phat H Tran fan club!!
							  Phat Tran
							 RAM for Gus?
							 SDK for GUS
							Some Questions

Standard Info:
	- Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest.
	- Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ.

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 01:46:30 -0400
From: <stanis@io.org>
Subject: Bought a GUS!

Yo, Gusers!



	 I just recently bought a GUS for the second time in two years! 
Anyways I got the board revision 3.7 and the installation disks
version 3.0. Right away I scavanged my old Ati Vga Wonder and begged
a few of my friends for memory chips and upgraded the sound beast to 
1 meg. I have to say that the board has improved considerably
and still has amazing sound :) , that is unmatched by the shitty Sound 
Blaster Pro that I had before that. The mods sound awesome, the mids
even better (patches are very similar to the Wave Blaster, except a lot
of them are better ,and only some are not as good), but........what 
would a sound card be without problems!



Problem 1 - Windows hangs when trying to record with any of the 
			wave editors.                   

I don't really need to record in windows but It would be nice. 
I can load a wave , play it and everything is fine it screws up
only when I try to record. I tried both 8 and 16 bit dmas
 ........hmmmmmmmmm , maybe I'm missing some windows files?
I tried recording in dos using playfile and everything works fine.

Problem 2 - Can't use 16 bit dmas in Windows and use my modem at 
			the same time.

Not very important but would be nice if I could.  When I use 16 bit
dmas and load Procomm plus for Windows. I might get lucky and be
able to run the program for 5 minutes without a problem. Some
kind of conflict occurs sooner or later and my mouse and the 
terminal both stop working. I can still use the keyboard and shut
everything off. Using 16 bit dmas in dos causes no problems.


Problem 3 - Megaem is amazing BUT I only get MONO! 


I tried megaem with 2 games so far. Legend of Kyrandia "Hand of Fate"
and Flashback. Both games give me awesome music with my 1 meg gus
but I don't get (((( STEREO )))). I loaded everything properly 
and DID NOT use the -mono switch in emuset.


Mini Problem 1 - The snare (and maybe some other drum sounds) is
			   screwed in dos playmidi.......sound like a
			   Rubbermaid commercial..(plastic container sound)


This is a minor problem since the drum patches play correctly in Windows,
however It would still be nice to be able to play them correctly
in dos. I'm aware of the gus041?.zip files but as I lost FTP access 
on Internex Online just a few days ago, I have no way of getting
them. Isn't there another way of getting around the problem?


Mini Problem 2 - UltraClicks! in some trackers.


When I got the GUS, I went on an FTP binge. I got tons multi channel
trackers like Ultra Tracker 1.5 , Mmedit, Unis669, Take Trakker, 
Farandole Composer, and others that I can't remember. Some of them seem 
to have a bit of clicking. Even though most of them claim to be Ultraclick 
free. I also got Inertia Player 1.1 and it seems to give me the cleanest 
output out of all of them. 

I think The gus can't ramp it's volume fast enough when it has 
lots of channels to process or maybe I need a faster computer. I only
 have a lowly 386 SX-16. Ultra Tracker doesn't give me clicks, but it 
has clicks with the 18 channel song that it comes with called DarkForce.ult .

This song sounds awesome in Inertia Player with no clicks. Don't get me wrong,
with the sound blaster pro I wasn't even able to play the 12 channel 
harmnics.mtm without lowering the frequency down to 8 KHz. With the GUS 
I can play this 18 channel .ult at full frequency with almost no cpu
slow downs! 


The GUS sounds awesome but there still needs to be a composer
created that doesn't give any clicks. Can somebody download the 
Ultra150.zip from wasp.eng.ufl.edu in the directory 
pub/msdos/demos/music/pptrack or something like that, and tell me if 
they experience the same clicks (in the middle of the song).


Anyways.........I got carried away..(sorry)...I hope some of 
you have solutions to any of the above problems.....
Thanks in advance.


Greg

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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 11:02:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Public Image <scall@ccnet.com>
Subject: General MIDI xtals/GUS EMulators/SB AWE32

I think the confusion on the term "Crystal" in talking about GUS patches 
comes from the fact the Graivs used the professional and commertially 
available "Voice Crystal" GM patch set for the GUS.

the GUS emulators.... Well.....  Just send 'em to a friend and let 'im 
run them....  Make sure the friend has a sound blaster.

On the SB AWE32:
	Saw the box yesterday at babbages.  Price: $330.  
	Includes:
		OPL3 Synth Chip
		EMUxxxxx Synth Chip
		512k (4 Megabits :) of RAM, expandable to 28 Megabytes
		3 CD rom interfaces
		MPU-401 "Smart Mode" Midi
		Don't know how much rom (1 meg at the most though)
		Socket for the waveblaster (req. for General Midi compat.)
		Buncha bundled wares.

All in all, not worth it.

-Scott

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Date: Thu, 07 Apr 94 02:01:49 EST
From: pcady@celestat.com
Subject: GUS & Carmen SanDiego Deluxe.

New subscriber here. I'm having problems getting digitized sound out of
Carmen Sandiego Deluxe.

MegaEm does great music, but no digitized sound at all.

SBOS does some digitized sound, then locks up.

Latest versions of everything; No problems with any other game. Any
suggestions? G-List says MegaEm should work.

Paul Cady
pcady@celestat.com

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Date: Wed, 06 Apr 94 18:18:21 GMT
From: Simon@geordie.demon.co.uk (Simon Crute)
Subject: gus and qemm386 V7

Hi all,

  I've been running with a GUS card for ages, but recently I've 
  installed qemm7 so I can play games, and use my other dos things 
  without having to re-boot. BUT since I installed qemm7, the quality of
  the samples seems to have gone down hill, they "pop" more, and also 
  sometimes sound like they have very small dropouts in them. 
  
  Has anyone else got a gus and qemm7 qorking well together ?
  
  Thanks

-- 
Geordie

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 00:14:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Timothy J Weaver <tweaver@brahms.udel.edu>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V12 #6

Well, when you get finished "tolerating" your GUS I will be glad to take 
it off your hands!  E mail me!

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 00:29:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Phat H Tran <ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V12 #6

> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 02:35:54 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Peter C. Chien Jr." <pchienjr@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
> Subject: 3.1 disks?
> 
> Wait, what's this I hear about 3.1 install disks?  For those of us GUS 
> old-timers with earlier versions, how do we get these disks?  Notice how 

If you have at least the 2.06 disks, then you can upgrade to the 3.1
disks by downloading gus0041a/b from the GUS archive mirror sites
(eg. archive.orst.edu /pub/packages/gravis).  Just remember to delete
ultrasnd.ini and your SBOS files before installing the new stuff.

> Date: Wed, 06 Apr 1994 08:47:00
> From: T.Bolhuis@el.utwente.nl (Thijs Bolhuis)
> Subject: CD-ROM interfacing.
> 
> Does anyone know what the advantage would be to use the cd-rom gravis add-on 
> board instead of the supplied boards of Sony, Panasonic or Mitsumi, apart 
> from saving an ISA-slot? Does it provide extra functionality?

No advantages save the one you've mentioned.

> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:06:57 CDT
> From: johnz@saintjoe.edu (John Zmaczynski)
> Subject: Do MegaRace and GUS get along nicely?
> 
> What kind of support does Megarace have for the GUS.  The box didn't say 
> GUS support (I don't think....).  Does Megaem work with this, or god forbid, 
> SBOS.  It looks like a nifty game, but the GUS has kinda spoiled me musicwise.

A bit of hearsay on the net has it that Cryo (<sp?> the folks who made 
Megarace) are adding GUS support to their game and will release a new 
version of it. 

> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 20:22:53 -700 (PDT)
> From: Colin Ritchie <strongbw@crash.cts.com>
> Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V12 #2
> 
> Bart Aaron Larrangana Spat:
> 
> > On another subject, in my efforts to get the sound to work right, I 
> learned 
> > that my SETGUS won't run.  It says it needs to be run from the INSTALL 
> > program. This is something new; it never said that before.  What 
> happened 
> > to it?  The only thing that I can think of is that I upgraded the 
> software 
> > with gus0041 or whatever it was.  Did this happen to anyone else?
> 
> Well, Ultima 8 finally broke me, and I went out and bought a Soundblaster 
> for the digital(the GUS gets my stereo, the Soundblaster gets my 
> labtecs).  I tried to use setgus in my attempts to set them up together, 
> and I got the same thing somewhere along the line, SETGUS has been 
> engineered to be run only from the INSTALL program(to head off stupid 
> people, I presume) and in the flurry of update files, the INSTALL program 
> was taken out of(or, not put into) the GUS directory.  There IS an 
> install program in the GUS files I have, though, but it is for one of the 
> applets, not for the GUS installation itself.

What you should do is copy install.exe from the gus0041 disks over
to your /ultrasnd directory as setup.exe.  Each time you want to
reconfigure your GUS, run setup.  It's the same program as install.exe,
but it behaves differently when it's in your /ultrasnd directory.

> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 13:27:48 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Bill Park <bpark@kaiwan.com>
> Subject: RAM for Gus?
> 
> I just tested two ram chips that I had installed in my GUS which failed 
> the diagnostic test. They are Sanyo LC324256BP-70. Are these appropriate 
> chips? I had a friend who is a bench tech test them and he says they are 
> both hosed.

Sanyo chips have had a long history of problems with the GUS.  You 
should shop for another brand.  There have also been a couple of
reports of problems with Samsung chips.

> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 16:13:52 +22301035 (CDT)
> From: bhicks@dx.psych.uiuc.edu (Blair D. Hicks)
> Subject: Whine in Windows
> 
>   
>    I am having a problem with a high pitched whine coming from my GUS
> soundcard while I run MS Windows.  I have a new GUS (3.7) and my system
> is a Gateway DX2-50V with a 1572 CrystalScan monitor with an ATI
> Ultra video card.  The whine is very noticable when there is a lot of
> screen activity, or when I am using my modem w/ Crosstalk 2.1.  

Open your Ultrasound mixer and disable the line, mic, and CD audio
inputs when you're not using them.  Your whining problem is likely
a result of noise being picked up at one of those inputs.

> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 16:03:57 +0200
> From: Nils Pedersen <nilspe@ifi.uio.no>
> Subject: XWING from Lukas Art
> 
> I have problems with XWing. I just can't get the speech to work.
> I'm using SBOS ver. 3.7B2 with no options, and my GUS is set up
> on port 240 (DMA = 1, IRQ = 7, the rest is standard). I have spoken
> with some friends and they have no problem, but they have 220 as base 
> adress. I hope some one can help me with this problem, I'm getting
> sick of the AdLib-sound(s).

X-Wing only supports SB sound at base address 220h.  If you use SBOS,
you must move your GUS to 220h so that the SB emulation will occur
at that address.  However, you can also use Mega-Em instead, which
will provide you with much better music and allows you to emulate
the SB at addresses other than the GUS' physical address.  Mega-Em
can be found in gus0041a/gus0041b.zip.

Phat.

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 01:08:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: Antonio Guia <guia@cc.umanitoba.ca>
Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V12 #6

:original quote: 
-   I am having a problem with a high pitched whine coming from my GUS
-something that I can do to shield the card and/or -cables?  Does anyone
-have any other suggestions? 

Suggestion: turn off your microphone inputs or make sure there's a
microphone turned on and attatched to them if they are to be left on.

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 10:31:53 -0500 (CDT)
From: vic@cd.com (Vic Serbe x237)
Subject: Re: Phat H Tran fan club!!

> Date: Wed, 06 Apr 1994 14:38:40 GMT
> From: Clarke Brunt <CLARKE@lsl.co.uk>
> Subject: Phat H Tran fan club!!
> 
> I just read my last 5 days of general Digest after the Easter break,
> and whenever I found a query which I though I might reply to, I
> found that Phat had already replied in a subsequent Digest.
> 
> How does this guy put up with repeating time after time after...
> that you need the new ultrasnd.ini or whatever, when the rest
> of us just groan "Oh no! Not again"? Well done!

I want to second these kudos for Phat.  I, too have been helped quite a
bit by him and, actually, someone else named Yossi or something.  I'd like
to offer them both my public thanks and appreciation for all the support
they're giving us GUS'ers.

-- 
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#####> -------  Central Data Corp. - Makers of the scsiTerminal Server
 //___/ /   1602 Newton Dr., Champaign, IL 61821
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 13:46:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rath <cllym@ucdavis.edu>
Subject: Phat Tran

You know what?  I think Gravis should officially HIRE Phat Tran and PAY 
HIM for all the work he's done for all the GUS users out there..

What do you all think?

Rath

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 08:27:29 -0400
From: tom@ksr.com
Subject: Re: RAM for Gus?

> I just tested two ram chips that I had installed in my GUS which failed 
> the diagnostic test. They are Sanyo LC324256BP-70. Are these appropriate 
> chips? I had a friend who is a bench tech test them and he says they are 
> both hosed.

Well, I'm going through the same problem too.  I bought 6 chips and none of
them work.  I talked to tech support at Gravis and was told that Sanyo and
Goldstart chips are known to have problems.  I got them from JDR.  They told me
that they have another brand and then later changed their mind.  I'm really
pissed at them. Anyway, I'm curious as to which chip brands people have had
success with and where they got them from.  52 bucks from Gravis is a little
overpriced, I'd say.

-Tom
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 13:40:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: m8088044@llohio.ll.pbs.org (Fred Coffey)
Subject: SDK for GUS

Hi folks:
	
	I looking for the (cringe) BASIC (any flavor) SDK for the GUS.  Is
there one out there for BASIC?  If there is, steer me in the direction of
the proper FTP site.  Thanks!

Fred
4-6-94 at 1:41p


-- 
Fred Coffey                |  
Sandusky, Ohio             |  This space for rent.  Inquire within.
m8088044@llohio.ll.pbs.org |  
	"Wherever you are going, you will eventually get there"

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 94 15:03:01 +0300
From: tjakobs@mswe.dnet.ms.philips.nl (THEO_JAKOBS TEL.62667)
Subject: Some Questions

Hi...

I have just recently bought SealTeam, but how do i get it to work with the
Ail drivers?
WingCommander Academy does have ail drivers (at least .adv files) but it doesn't
work with the gravis ail drivers, could somebody tell me if it will work with
the ail drivers??

How many SoundBoard Emulators are there for the GUS, the ones that i know are:
	   SoundBlaster  - SBOS+ Megaem(digitized voice)
	   MT32          - Megaem
	   SoundCanvas   - Megaem

But i've heard of a Emulator for the PAS16 as well...

If gravis is smart, they would also try to emulate the WaveBlaster, Why??...
Because the waveblaster is distributed under a lot of different names.. and
it looks like it's gonna be a Creative Labs Standard again.. So if we can keep
up with a WaveBlaster Support that is almost as good (even better??) we have
another reason for people to buy a GUS..

Andre Jakobs
  MicroBrain Technologies Inc.

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