Ultrasound Daily Digest     Tue,  9 Feb 93       Volume 2 : Issue  37 

Today's Topics:
					BOESENDO.MOD converted to .MID
							   Comanche
					 Comanche with GUS working!!
							 DSP for GUS?
				Encyclopedia Grollier Sound thru GUS?
						  FC's Panic and GUS
			  Gravis BBS - New Bulletin - Local Nodes!!
				  GUS, win31 and memory parity error
							GUS Questions
						  Links386Pro & SBOS
		med135 mod editor, reusing trident RAM, developers kit
							New GUS Owner
			   One completely off the wall GUS question
				   Problems with Trax from Passport
				  Real time MIDI with GUS or PAS-16?
	   Sierra King's Quest V (CDrom) and Gravis Ultrasound = ?
					Ultrasound Daily Digest V2 #36

	Information about the UltraSound Daily Digest (such as
mail addresses, request servers, ftp sites, etc., etc.) can be found
at the end of the Digest.
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Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1993 07:46:37 GMT
From: knepley@CS.ColoState.EDU (Ranseus (Jim Knepley))
Message-Id: <Feb07.074637.72058@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Subject: BOESENDO.MOD converted to .MID
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

In article <C22Czr.8w3@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran) writes:
>I heard boesendo.mod recently and I thought that the piano was really
>lousy and unrefined compared to the acpiano1 patch for the GUS.

I think that this hits the root of a fundamental technique developers are
ignoring with the GUS (yes, I know that the .MOD wasn't written for the GUS,
just hear me out).
We've all got the patches on our drives somewhere (I've heard of nobody that's
deleted them, anyway) and with the new General Midi patches on the way, it
would be even more enticing.
Game designers should use those patches!  If you need a special sound effect,
then include it, but the GUS patches are good and redundantly storing
instrument patches of your own is wasteful.  Case in point, the MIDI version
of Beosendo is 16,037 bytes, while the .MOD version is 216,890 bytes -- I
think the Midi version is better, BTW.
Espescially folks like Sierra, whose sound is mostly music with a little
digital thrown in.

Just a thought,
  Jim
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1993 10:56:59 -0600
From: John Dillenburg <dillenbu@bert.eecs.uic.edu>
Message-Id: <199302081656.AA07054@bert.eecs.uic.edu>
Subject: Comanche
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

>Hi.
>
>I've been noticing that people have been having problems with
>getting the digitized sound to work.
>
>I've got a 256K GUS, with a 386-40, and SBOS 1.23, and it has
>always worked flawlessly.  I think it worked fine with 1.22 also.
>
>Install the patch, reconfigure the sound by running comanche's
>SOUNDSET.EXE, reboot with just HIMEM and the GUS settings, and
>run SBOS with no options.  Works for me!
>
>Have Fun.
>Eric A. Hobbs
>ehobbs@jupiter.nmt.edu

  I've tried this, the sound EFFECTS still do not work.  I've tried
SBOS 1.20, 1.22 and 1.23 with all sixteen combinations of -x and -o.
Note that the music works fine.  Are you sure that your sound effects
work (i.e. guns firing, bomb explosions, etc.)?   I have also tried 
running the SOUNDSET program with music set to AdLib and Effects set
to SoundBlaster, no go (with or without patch).
  For the record I have a Gateway 2000 486-66V Vesa Local bus system
with 8Mb of Ram.
  All in all I'm disappointed with GUS SoundBlaster compatiblilty.  If
anyone is buying a GUS for game playing, think twice.

John

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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 93 6:26:14 MST
From: Apollo Shau-Yang Wong <apollo@ee.ualberta.ca>
Message-Id: <9302081326.AA13838@orca.es.com>
Subject: Comanche with GUS working!!
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

> > I've been noticing that people have been having problems with
> > getting the digitized sound to work.
> > 
> > I've got a 256K GUS, with a 386-40, and SBOS 1.23, and it has
> > always worked flawlessly.  I think it worked fine with 1.22 also.
> > 
> > Install the patch, reconfigure the sound by running comanche's
> > SOUNDSET.EXE, reboot with just HIMEM and the GUS settings, and
> > run SBOS with no options.  Works for me!
> > 
> > Have Fun.
> > Eric A. Hobbs
> > ehobbs@jupiter.nmt.edu
> 
> Perhaps you could tell us which options you used after executing soundset.com ?
> 
> Also what does your comanche.cfg file contain after configuration ?
> 
> Davei
I tried his suggestion and to my surprise. It works. Install the patch,
run soundset.exe and select SB for all the sound output. The sound effects
and speech are a bit soft so you might want to turn off the music.

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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1993 16:02:41 GMT
From: yoshida@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Stuart Yoshida)
Message-Id: <107370017@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>
Subject: DSP for GUS?
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard, Matthew E. Bernold <MEB117@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> In article <1993Feb02.144835.18075@rose.com>, francisco.perez@rose.com
> (francisco perez) says:
> >
> >Date Entered: 02-02-93 09:41
> >Anyone if Gravis is going to release a DSP add-on for the GUS?
> >---
> >   OLX 2.1 TD   Press any key to continue or any other key to quit
> >   RoseMail 2.00 : RoseNet<=>Usenet Gateway : Rose Media 416-733-2285
> 
> The original announcement for the 16bit daughterboard for the GUS said that
> the board will be capable of 16bit stereo at 48kHz (DAT sampling rate) and
> will have an onboard DSP.  I do NOT know if this is official, nor do I know
> if this information has changed...however, it sounds promising at least.

  I have talked with Chris Yuzik of Advanced Gravis, and he
  stated that the 16-bit daughter card will *NOT* have onboard
  DSP.

  This is fine for me since I have an outboard effects box, and
  will probably us the card to record dry tracks direct-to-disk
  (i.e., with no effects).  I will then either use my outboard
  effects processor or find software which will work directly on
  the bits to add effects later on.  Most professional studios
  record their tracks dry and add EQ, delay, chorusing, etc.,
  later.

> 
> Now, if we can get Gravis to make a daughterboard with DIGITAL I/O instead
> of analog, we'll be set... :-)
> 
>        Matthew E. Bernold             MEB117@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
>          <<APOCALYPSE>>                  meb@haydn.psu.edu

--

  Stuart Yoshida

Internet: yoshida@elektra.fc.hp.com
   Voice: (303) 229-2324

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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 93 14:53:13 CST
From: Albert Foo <C580503@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu>
Message-Id: <9302082101.AA19769@orca.es.com>
Subject: Encyclopedia Grollier Sound thru GUS?
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

My GUS card came with the Phillips LMSI CM-205 CDROM, and I am
having some problems trying to play some of the video clips that
produce no sound in Grollier Encycl. (ver. 5.0).  The installation
says the sound can come thru as regular audio CD or thru the
Soundblaster card.  I followed the instructions to set up the
Soundblaster driver and try to run SBOS to emulate it, but it still
doesn't work.  The regular audio CD playback fine but there is no sound
when video animation is on.

Is there any kind soul out there who can help me to solve this problem?

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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1993 20:02:25 GMT
From: adhir@wam.umd.edu (Al Dhir)
Message-Id: <1993Feb8.200225.11485@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: FC's Panic and GUS
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

In article <1l69e9$kv0@hpavla.lf.hp.com> pfeifer@lf.hp.com (Mark Pfeifer) writes:
>Mark Pfeifer (pfeifer@lf.hp.com) wrote: Absolutely NOTHING!
>
>Here's the message I was trying to post:
>
>Okay, I'll be brave and be the first to ask: Has anyone gotten the new
>demo from Future Crew - Panic - to work (with sound) on the GUS?  I tried
>the configuration that works for Unreal, but to no avail.
>
>I'm sure I won't be the last to ask this question.
>

It works fine for me with no options (and all kinds of QEMM stuff loaded).
I used the 16Mhz mixing rate on my 486/50 eisa.  Oh and its v1.22 of SBOS.

Al
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Date: 4 Feb 93 08:23:30 GMT
From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Message-Id: <1kqjq2INNguq@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Gravis BBS - New Bulletin - Local Nodes!!
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

Well everyone, I finally beat the busy signal and logged onto the Gravis
BBS! :) So here is the latest bulletin although it may not be too recent
(less than a week old anyways).

SPECIAL NOTE: Globalizing Gravis BBS via Fidonet
------------------------------------------------

Please make special notice below concerning the Gravis BBS being on
Fidonet, and request for any BBS worldwide with Fidonet access to carry
it. If you want local modem access to the Gravis BBS, ask your local
favorite BBS with Fidonet access to become an authorized Gravis Fidonet
node. Or if you are a sysop yourself, please consider being an official
Gravis node. I will post instructions as soon as they are available.

It'd be great for everyone with or without Internet access to be able
to access a public forum like the Gravis BBS through local BBSs. And the
new sysop is a full time sysop so he has been answering every question
that has been asked on the BBS! Wow! Sure a change from the original
Gravis BBS. :) So everyone worldwide would be able to call a local
number through their modem and make use of global communication, group
discussions.... all the wonderful things we have been doing here except
now all can do this (meaning even those without Usenet or Internet
access). So please find out if you can get a local Fidonet node to
become an offical Gravis node, and who knows, we might be able to get
global local support without a 1-800 number. In fact, this is better
than a 1-800 tech support cause not only do you get answers from Gravis,
you get experience and discussions from others as well. Again, all the
wonderful things we've enjoyed being the privileged ones with access to
Usenet. :) Can't wait till Gravis get this going!

Anyways, here is the bulletin....

Thomas....

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	JUST TO LET YOU KNOW #2
	=======================
	
	Important News
	--------------
	  ~ Due to the sudden popularity in the Gravis BBS it is becomming more
		difficult to get online.  There are some points I wish to make you
		all aware of.
	
		~ In the next few weeks we will be offering any BBS SysOp who has
		  a FidoNET node number the chance to become an Authorized Gravis
		  Node.  There are two reasons for this.  First it will save our
		  customers long distance cost by being able to call someone a
		  little closer to them.  Also it will help relieve pressure on
		  our BBS.
	
		~ There are no current plans to increase the number of incomming
		  lines to the BBS.  At least until after we have moved
		  offices. (May)
	
		 ~ The BBS is usually down between 9am-12pm Mon-Fri PST.  This is
		   the only time that I may do BBS maintenance.  I will try and
		   keep it offline as little as possible.
	 
		 ~ I would like to ask more of you to use the offline mail reader.
		   It saves you time and will allow others to get online.
	 
	   ~ Many of you have been asking me to put the V1.22 UltraSound Install
		 disks online.  The answer is no.  Version 1.22 was not suppose to
		 be distributed and DOES contain known problems. So I will not be
		 posting it here.
	 
	   ~ I made a mistake in the text of the upgrade form.  In the text it
		 said that Air Combat Chuck Yeager was $14 US, this should have read
		 $15 US.  This has been corrected.
	 
	   ~ You will find the Version 3.1 of the MAC MouseStick II software
		 in area 9 in the file menu.
	 
	 Questions of the Week
	 ---------------------
	   ~ If your path statement is longer than 128 characters and SETUP
		 crashes you will need to shorten it.  This problem is being
		 worked on.
	 
	   ~ Do NOT run SBOS in a DOS box under Windows.  Your computer WILL
		 crash.  There may be a future version of SBOS that will run under
		 Windows.
	 
	 Mail & Networks
	 ---------------
	   ~ Gravis BBS is now part of the Sound Blaster Connection NETwork. Our
		 SBCNET node number is 13:900/3.  SBCNET is a dedicated PC sound
		 card messaging and file network that is very big in Europe, and
		 Australlia.  And is starting to make a big move into North America.
	 
		 Currently the echo message areas are only available to the staff.
		 I will be making the SBCNET GUS file areas available to everyone
		 when they become avaialable.
	 
	   ~ In a reply to a users question in the Gravis Tech message area I
		 incorrectly told someone that they could not record in 16 bit
		 unless they were using a 16 bit DMA channel.  This was INCORRECT.
		 You can still record in 16 bit with an 8 bit DMA channel.
	 
	 News, Bulletins & Tech Notes
	 ----------------------------
	   ~ I have updated the PRODUCT INFORMATION area.  You will now find
		 specifications on all of our products, online.
	 
	   ~ Some people have noticed when they run the OPTiFIX program, which I
		 made available last week, that SBOS will no longer run.  You will
		 notice in the tech note that I say DMA channels 0-3 will be
		 disabled.  SBOS uses DMA channel 1, which is why it won't work.
	 
		 The OPTiFix program was written for those of you who want to use a
		 16 bit DMA channel with the GUS.
	 
	 Files
	 -----
	   ~ I have been asked to put some MIDI files online.  Howerver, I will
		 not do this until the new patches are out.  Trust me, they sound
		 much better with the new patches and I don't want anyone to be
		 disappointed with the quality of the MIDI files using the old ones.
	 
	   ~ There are many new files online including two new VGA demos written
		 specifically to support the GUS.  They are DARETRO by Rennaissance,
		 and TZJUNGLY by Twilight Zone.
	 
	 Abort, Retry and Fail
	 ---------------------
	   ~ Always store disks in a safe place.  But DO NOT place them on your
		 fridge with a magnet. (True Story)
	 
	 Thanks, and happy GUSing.
	 
	 John

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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1993 22:40:00 GMT
From: Andrew McCallum <andrewm@zooid.guild.org>
Message-Id: <1993Feb5.232528.11514@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: GUS, win31 and memory parity error
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>



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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1993 13:38:44 GMT
From: waardenb@cs.utwente.nl (Jerry van Waardenberg)
Message-Id: <1993Feb2.143844@cs.utwente.nl>
Subject: GUS Questions
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

In article <1kaig7INNeo1@shelley.u.washington.edu>, mts@hardy.u.washington.edu (Sean Milligan) writes:
|> I am considering buying a GUS but I have a couple of questions:
|> 
|> 1) As I understand it the GUS is SB compatible through software.  My question
|>    is: How does this work (or fit) with games that require so much of the first
|>    640K, specifically Falcon 3.0.  Are there special tricks to get the software
|>    loaded, can it be loaded into upper memory?

You can load SBOS into high memory with QEMM or EMM386. Works fine with me!
Loading SBOS high is slower than loading it in conventional memory, though.

|> 2) I would like to use it with OS/2.  Any chance.

Only in DOS boxes with 8-bit DMA channels. There is no OS/2 driver YET (Gravis:
hint, hint).

|> 3) I see all these references to version number.  Are these revision to
|>    hardware or software?

Some are for the hardware, some for the software.
Hardware: currently at rev. 2.4 (but is the same as 2.2).
Software: Installation disks: v.1.22 (includes PlayMidi 3.50)
		  SBOS (= SB emulator): v.1.23

|> Sean Milligan 
|> mts@hardy.u.washington.edu
|> Student, Department of Mechanical Engineering
|> University of Washington, Seattle

Jerry

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Date: 8 Feb 93  9:13 -0800
From: Thomas Wong <twong@civil.ubc.ca>
Message-Id: <3012*twong@civil.ubc.ca>
Subject: Links386Pro & SBOS
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

You have the correct version of Links (1.07 which has the fixes) 
and the correct SBOS (1.22 which works for me). The only thing wrong 
is your setup.  SB itself is hardcoded to be able to use only a select 
set of IRQs only.  Sorry, I don't have the numbers in front of me, but 
you HAVE TO use something like IRQ 5, IRQ 7... not sure about 2 even
though it shows up in the list for Links cause I think something else
like video uses IRQ 2. So try IRQ 5 or 7. Then you shouldn't need
any parameters for SBOS cause you have the right versions of the
other softwares.

By the way, since Links 386 Pro is not a music oriented game like
other computer games are, you don't gain much by having any soundcards
for it. What comes out of the speakers are pretty well what you're
going to get through your soundcard (the occassional background noise,
and the comments after your made your shot). The sounds from your
PC speakers is about as good as it's going to get.

Thomas.

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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 93 13:39:45 GMT
From: "James Andrews, User Support" <james@sol1.east-london.ac.uk>
Message-Id: <27787.9302081339@uk.ac.uel.sol1>
Subject: med135 mod editor, reusing trident RAM, developers kit
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

med135 mod editor is a definite step in the right direction 'coz you can
alter the convey path in the med.ini to use gusmod11 and the thing will
do a native mode gus playback.

I must admit that I wasnt able to make it do much though- just swap around
a couple of patterns.  I also managed to hang it a couple of times  the
cursor got "stuck" away from the quit button.  Guess I'll have to RTFM.

Also ( I mentioned this before ) I tried removing the memory from my trident
card to put in the GUS.  Sadly though even though the chips looked like the 
correct sort I couldnt get the trident to work with 1/2 a meg!! This is
doubly a pity as the local electronics shoppe doesnt seem to stock 100ns
44256's 

Any news on the developers kit?  Or how we get a beta version of it?  What I've
heard from UK tech support is that the developers kit is still beta and
making it "proper" is not a priority.  Can anyone in touch with Gravis in
Canada confirm or deny this? ta

James Andrews, james@sol1.uel.ac.uk

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Date: 6 Feb 1993 06:02:11 GMT
From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Message-Id: <1kvk93INNmb@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>
Subject: New GUS Owner
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

In article <DOWDING.93Feb3232708@palm.ai.sri.com> dowding@ai.sri.com (John Dowding) writes:
>- I want to run sbos from my autoexec.bat before I run windows3.1, but
>  sbos somehow terminates the autoexec.bat process before it gets to
>  the win line.  If I try to run windows manually after sbos has
>  loaded, windows freezes up.  

There ought to be a batch file writing util that comes with DOS or at
least a tutorial cause this is a problem EVERYONE runs into until they
ask or reads about it. But what they're doing makes so much sense that
they don.t see it....

ANYWAYS, the proper way to run a batch file (like SBOS.BAT) within a
batch file (like AUTOEXEC.BAT) is to use the CALL statement (like CALL
SBOS). Even though just running SBOS within AUTOEXEC will work, it
doesn't retrun control back to the original batch file unless you use
CALL. DOS should really make it so that you can't run a batch file
within a batch file without the CALL statement, to force everyone to
read the manual or ask. Cause it's so obvious to just run the thing just
like in DOS and it does work... sort of. So anyways, use "call sbos"
instead of just plain sbos.

As for the freezing.... you need the new driver. And while you're at it,
might as well get the new of everything cause we got us a ftp site with
the latest and greatest stuff along with all sorts of other neat
programs to play with.... megabytes worth. And this will also coincide
with your question about the mailing  list cause I'm just going to
enclose my form letter below with the info....

Thomas.

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Hi there. You (and anyone else who has or plans to buy the Gravis
Ultrasound) should read the newsgroup comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.
And join the Ultrasound mailing list (free to those with email access).
Gravis themselves are on the mailing list to answer questions, along
with several hundred techies and hackers who've done all sorts of things
for the Ultrasound and made all sorts of software available for it. In
fact, the fellow who did the music for Star Control II (which really
shows off why the Ultrasound is one generation above the other FM stereo
soundcards like Sound Blaster Pro, PAS 16, Adlib....etc) is also on this
list. Please join the list.

There is also an archive available for the Ultrasound which is
mirrored to 2 ftp sites and a mailserver for those without ftp access.
On these sites, there are all sorts of programs for the Ultrasound, info
files, announcements from Gravis, demo files to show off your
Ultrasound, and yes, there are a number of software updates from Gravis
already, including a new set of install disks, a new setup program and a
beta version of SBOS which looks like has cleaned up just about all the
problems the old SBOS had. And these are free for downloading. There is
also a Gravis BBS for those who doesn't have access to Internet but if
you are reading this, then you probably have Internet access. Anyways, a
lot of functions are done in software (like SB/Adlib emulation, Windows
drivers....etc so getting fixes or updates is as easy as downloading
the latest version of the software... for free!).

You can even email Gravis if you wish. Their email address is...

for Alan, the tech guy, 71333.350@compuserve.com.
OR
for Chris, the salesguy, yuzik@sfu.ca.

Their BBS phine number is (604) 431-5927

If you are having problems or have questions, you can probably find all
the answers you need in one of the info files we have in the archive.
Even if you can't find it, post your question in the mailing list
becuase someone is bound to have faced the same thing once to twice
before. Here is the info on the mailing list...

Thomas.
_____________________________________________________________________

	Greetings!

	There's been a lot of talk lately about the Gravis Ultrasound,
as well as the mailing list for it.  I thought I'd put in my two cents
worth on the topic, as I happen to know a little about the mailing
list... I'm the administrator.  :)

	To join, mail to the request server.  It will help you get
signed up.  This is also the address for accessing the mailserver.
Just send mail to:

	ultrasound-request@dsd.es.com

	To post a message onto the digest, mail to:

	ultrasound@dsd.es.com

	If you have trouble with the server, feel free to mail to:

	ultrasound-owner@dsd.es.com

	This will put you in touch with a real human.  If you can't
mail to that, just mail me directly and we'll figure something out.
The server isn't perfect, though, and I'd  really appreciate it if
you'd let me know what goes wrong with it if you try to use it and it
croaks. 

	Thanks for your time!

Note:

The FTP site is now available, archive.epas.utoronto.ca.
Look for the directory pub/pc/ultrasound.

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Date: 2 Feb 93 03:46:42 GMT
From: knepley@CS.ColoState.EDU (Ranseus (Jim Knepley))
Message-Id: <Feb02.034642.71510@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Subject: One completely off the wall GUS question
Summary: GUS as a modem???
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

It's a wierd one, sure, but I suppose it _COULD_ happen...

One relay, some tone-generating and sampling software, and VOILA!  Your
UltraSound is now a modem!

Really, the sound quality of the GUS (and of _ANY_ 16 bit card, for that
matter) exceeds the phone lines, so why not!  It'd take a little adapter
and a lot of horsepower to recognize the various tones, but it'd be an
amusing little toy to have...  Heck, the AdLib Gold does VoiceMail, yes?

Bah, it was just a crazy idea anyway...  :)

Jim
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----- knepley@cs.colostate.edu ----------------------------------------------
 Jim "Ranseus" Knepley |  Avoid rectal-cranial inversion. 
 Programmer, magician, |  "Gun's don't kill, it's those bullet things"   
 computer geek.        |  

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Date: Lun, 08 F{v 93 09:01:54 FRA
From: 9269Z%FRESTP11.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU
Message-Id: <9302080802.AA09386@orca.es.com>
Subject: Problems with Trax from Passport
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

Date: 08 F{vrier 1993, 08:58:44 FRA
From: 9269Z    at FRESTP11
To:   ultrasound@dsd.es.com

Hi |

Has anyone here succeeded in getting Trax working with the GUS ?
While it recognizes the Gravis Ultrasound Synth in Goodies/Midi Setup...
I cannot get it to produce any sound. (Other Windows Applications work great
with my GUS 768k populated).

Please help.
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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1993 16:04:07 GMT
From: bjornhk@dhhalden.no (BJORN HAAVARD KLEVEN)
Message-Id: <bjornhk.141.729014647@dhhalden.no>
Subject: Real time MIDI with GUS or PAS-16?
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

>Can the Gus be used in real time  with a Roland  MPU 401 card to
>play sound from a midi keyboard?  I have had conflicting answers

I presume you are trying to use a MIDI master keyboard to trigger the 
instruments on the soundboard (GUS or PAS). The easiest way would be to 
simply connect the keyboard to the sound board directly, without going the 
way thru the MPU-401. Both these soundboards are capable of that. I don't 
know how the situation is for the PAS, but for the GUS, all you need is a 
Sound Blaster connector cable, a 6N138 or -139-chip, and a couple of 5.6Kohm 
resistors. Replace the on-board 6N136 with the -138 or -139, and solder the 
resistors between pin 5-7 and 6-8 of the chip. You will then be able to hook 
a MIDI keyboard directly up to the GUS, and using a sequencer program, you 
can play the GUS instruments.

>from 2 knowledgible persons (?)  Is the PAS 16 a better buy
>at the moment than the GUS if 16 bit digitization and playback
>plus editing and sequencing software are important in my 
>application?  The local price of the Gus is $170 Canadian and

Well, if I understand your needs right, the GUS would be a better deal. 
Although it only can do 8-bit samples yet, you still have the freedom to use 
*any* waveform sample as an instrument. On the PAS, you're limited to the 
low-quality sounds the FM-synthesizer can produce. You can actually get the 
16-bit daughterboard and the GUS for about the same price as the PAS (in 
your situation). Unless you can find a program that play waveforms when 
triggered from the MIDI-port, that is.

>
>Please direct replies to me directly unless this may be of general
>interest.

I believe this is of a certain general interest..

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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1993 14:30:06 GMT
From: cwatters@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Coyt D Watters)
Message-Id: <1993Feb8.143006.20631@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Sierra King's Quest V (CDrom) and Gravis Ultrasound = ?
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

In article <C207x2.Iz@acsu.buffalo.edu> v062l48d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Harold J Screven) writes:
>In article <1993Feb4.173814.23236@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, cwatters@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Coyt D Watters) writes...
>
>>How do I get King's Quest V on CDrom to work?  I get to the big green circle
>>with SIERRA underneath, see a couple of "sparkles (programmed)", then bye bye
>>to Mr. Computer - the CD stops spinning, no sound, no mouse, "it's dead Jim".
>>The keyboard is still alive for things like numlock and the 3 finger salute.
>
>I am having the same problem.  If you try -o2 -x2 options on sbos you'll get
>past the big green circle and the game will start, but it will crash randomly
>during the game.  If anyone has any suggestion ... please pass it along!
>
>Harold

Hate to followup once again, but I had a bit of time to experiment over
the weekend.

By setting the GUS back to the factory defaults in the manual and running
the setup program for KQ5, I was able to get music and dialogue by using
only the -X3 setting wityh SBOS 1.23.  Any other setting gave me random
lockups.

Of course, I am running this on a '386sx16, so I get lots of pauses and 
freezes due to the slow machine.

The music from KQ5 is ok most of the time, but inside the shops the music is
full of stuttering and static.  The dialog is good.  By playing with the 
adjustment levers I was able to finally get the sound/animation to sync.

-Coyt

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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 93 12:36:11 EST
From: harden@acsu.buffalo.edu (Alex Harden)
Message-Id: <9302081736.AA04742@lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu>
Subject: Ultrasound Daily Digest V2 #36
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

>Date: 06 Feb 1993 23:02:35 -0500
>From: "Bryon Daly, ECE Dept, UMass, Amherst" <DALY@ecs.umass.edu>
>Message-Id: <01GUF28J6L5E8WW9HY@UMAECS>
>Subject: Speaker out -> Line In Question
>To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

>I'd like to be able to sample output from my stereo on my GUS.  The problem
>is that my cheap stereo has no Line-Out's.  All it has is two sets of
>speaker-outs (A & B).  Previously (thanks, Francois!), I have been warned
>of the dangers of connecting that output (SPEAKER-B) to the GUS's line in.>

>I am aware of and able to eliminate the feedback problem, but I am concerned
>about the difference in output and input levels, etc between the speaker out and
>the line in.  Would it be enough just to play the stereo out at a very low
>volume while recording, or are impedance, etc problems still too big a concern
>even then?  If it is still a problem, is there any simple (ie: cheap) hardware
>solution to fix up this mismatch and make things acceptable for recording?

well, even the cheapest of stereos have headphone outs.  if you put your 
stereo on a reletively low setting, the output you'll get will be comparable to
the level of a line out.  get a stereo 1/8" to 1/8" or 1/4" to 1/8" patch cord
[depending on what size your headphone out is; GUS takes a 1/8", of course] and
you'll be in business.

>Thanks,
>-Bryon

alex harden-------------- "if we forget yesterday, we're bound to repeat it
harden@acsu.buffalo.edu--  tomorrow; it's not too late to start today,
harden@cs.buffalo.edu----  better off safe, than sorry."
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Date: (null)
From: (null)
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>

	Yeah.  My dad's computer (that didn't have any sound card in it) did the
same funny thing as well.  I checked all the INI files (I think it was
system.ini I found it in), and I found a parity= something line in it.  I
commented it out, and it works fine now.  Hardly ever crashes.

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